Re: OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over!
Actually, they did build an accessible flip non smartphone called the Haven. Egun On, Lagunak! Basque for G'day, Mates Louie P. (Pete) Nalda Http://www.myspace.com/lpnalda Http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda Http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda On Feb 25, 2013, at 2:08 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: > All. > > Android is the OS on their phones which is developed by Google, not them. So > I really don't understand the pattern issue since as far as I am aware, they > have not developed any accessibility software on mobile phones? Do anyone > know otherwise? > On 25/02/2013, at 2:11 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > >> This is not necessarily a molehill. what if the German courts had sided with >> Samsung? this could have had repercussions worldwide. Also, it was a stay - >> delay till a patent ruling is completed. In other words, it isn't over yet. >> We need to keep looking back over our shoulders in case similar rulings >> could happen in the US. These patent wars can adversely affect many of us if >> we sit around and do nothing. We need to be concerned and keep out a >> watchful eye to protect our rights and the accessible improvements we all >> enjoy. >> >> On Feb 22, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Dave wrote: >> >>> Can we all just take a chill pill here? >>> >>> Samsung makes some of the best televisions on the planet. >>> >>> What happened in Germany has little if anything to do with accessibility at >>> all. >>> >>> It was part of an ongoing legal maneuver to prevent Apple from kicking >>> their ass in sales and market share. >>> >>> There's no reason to boycott Samsung for something a bunch of lawyers did >>> in a foreign country. >>> >>> Why is it that blind people have to make a mountain out of molehills at >>> every opportunity? >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over!
All. Android is the OS on their phones which is developed by Google, not them. So I really don't understand the pattern issue since as far as I am aware, they have not developed any accessibility software on mobile phones? Do anyone know otherwise? On 25/02/2013, at 2:11 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > This is not necessarily a molehill. what if the German courts had sided with > Samsung? this could have had repercussions worldwide. Also, it was a stay - > delay till a patent ruling is completed. In other words, it isn't over yet. > We need to keep looking back over our shoulders in case similar rulings could > happen in the US. These patent wars can adversely affect many of us if we sit > around and do nothing. We need to be concerned and keep out a watchful eye to > protect our rights and the accessible improvements we all enjoy. > > On Feb 22, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Dave wrote: > >> Can we all just take a chill pill here? >> >> Samsung makes some of the best televisions on the planet. >> >> What happened in Germany has little if anything to do with accessibility at >> all. >> >> It was part of an ongoing legal maneuver to prevent Apple from kicking their >> ass in sales and market share. >> >> There's no reason to boycott Samsung for something a bunch of lawyers did in >> a foreign country. >> >> Why is it that blind people have to make a mountain out of molehills at >> every opportunity? >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over!
This is not necessarily a molehill. what if the German courts had sided with Samsung? this could have had repercussions worldwide. Also, it was a stay - delay till a patent ruling is completed. In other words, it isn't over yet. We need to keep looking back over our shoulders in case similar rulings could happen in the US. These patent wars can adversely affect many of us if we sit around and do nothing. We need to be concerned and keep out a watchful eye to protect our rights and the accessible improvements we all enjoy. On Feb 22, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Dave wrote: > Can we all just take a chill pill here? > > Samsung makes some of the best televisions on the planet. > > What happened in Germany has little if anything to do with accessibility at > all. > > It was part of an ongoing legal maneuver to prevent Apple from kicking their > ass in sales and market share. > > There's no reason to boycott Samsung for something a bunch of lawyers did in > a foreign country. > > Why is it that blind people have to make a mountain out of molehills at every > opportunity? > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over!
Hello. That's very sad indeed. If I had known this before, I would never had purchased my note II in the first place. Any way, too late now to return it. Nektarios. On Feb 23, 2013, at 2:36 AM, Richard Ring wrote: > I will never purchase one of their products! I can't believe they are so > small minded! What do you expect from lawyers! > > > You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding > Sent from my Mac Book Pro > richr...@gmail.com > > On Feb 22, 2013, at 3:22 PM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote: > >> >> Hey Guys, >> >> This is completely off topic. However, this story I'm posting here is >> disturbing. >> samsung is suing Apple in a German court over Voice Over. They are claiming >> it violated one of their patents. What is disturbing, they are trying to get >> devices with Voice Over banned. Knowing what this would do to the blind >> community. This is so utterly despicable to me. This is just not a >> calculated business move. This could actually affect how the blind community >> has access to GOOD devices. As we all know, no one touches Apple when it >> comes to including the disabled with its computer and iOS devices. Anyways, >> I thought you might find this interesting. >> http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/02/22/samsungs-disability-lawsuit/ >> >> >> Best, J. p. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over!
the lawyers may have done this, but they did so at the behest of the corporation. Believe me, an issue like this is definitely not a molehill. If ignored, it can blow back on us and cause a lot more problems. The best thing we can do is vote with our wallets. As for Samsung making the best T.V. sets on the planet, I am not so sure. Sony actually makes some of the better consumer products out there. Sony also has better product support (I can still buy some parts for an old reel-to-reel tape player/recorder (and yes, even after 30 years, it still works). Can Samsung say that? -eric On Feb 22, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Dave wrote: > Can we all just take a chill pill here? > > Samsung makes some of the best televisions on the planet. > > What happened in Germany has little if anything to do with accessibility at > all. > > It was part of an ongoing legal maneuver to prevent Apple from kicking their > ass in sales and market share. > > There's no reason to boycott Samsung for something a bunch of lawyers did in > a foreign country. > > Why is it that blind people have to make a mountain out of molehills at every > opportunity? > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over!
I don't own a TV and not watching Survivors is not doing me any harm. It's not that VoiceOver is in danger, it is that Samsung has chosen to bring up something which is doing them no financial harm whatsoever. And, frankly, it will gain them nothing, besides being a rather ill conceived PR move. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 22, 2013, at 8:17 PM, "Dave" wrote: > Can we all just take a chill pill here? > > Samsung makes some of the best televisions on the planet. > > What happened in Germany has little if anything to do with accessibility at > all. > > It was part of an ongoing legal maneuver to prevent Apple from kicking their > ass in sales and market share. > > There's no reason to boycott Samsung for something a bunch of lawyers did in > a foreign country. > > Why is it that blind people have to make a mountain out of molehills at every > opportunity? > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over!
the only way that samsung will back off is if all blind people in north america (and elsewhere) sue them (on an individual basis). they would be spending so much money defending themselves in various courts that they would either go under or call it a day and try something else. the only way that such companies will back down is if their source of revenue is attacked directly. . this is the only kind of force they understand. -eric On Feb 22, 2013, at 2:22 PM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hey Guys, > > This is completely off topic. However, this story I'm posting here is > disturbing. > samsung is suing Apple in a German court over Voice Over. They are claiming > it violated one of their patents. What is disturbing, they are trying to get > devices with Voice Over banned. Knowing what this would do to the blind > community. This is so utterly despicable to me. This is just not a calculated > business move. This could actually affect how the blind community has access > to GOOD devices. As we all know, no one touches Apple when it comes to > including the disabled with its computer and iOS devices. Anyways, I thought > you might find this interesting. > http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/02/22/samsungs-disability-lawsuit/ > > > Best, J. p. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over!
Well go figure, it's pretty much your typical competition on either end, and one or the other has to get upset at some point over something petty. There was the whole thing with GW Micro vs Freedom Scientific, a while back, which I unfortunately don't remember what the whole story on that was, which I thought was pretty ridiculous too, and I'm guessing didn't go anywhere as far as the suit was concerned, because I didn't hear anything else about it. On Feb 22, 2013, at 9:10 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > Hi guys > I sure am sorry I bought that TV and speaker several months back from Google > Best Buy. It was made by this company. Now what's really strange is that > several years ago, that company-sponsored a guy dog school in Correia. Go > figure. Do something nice for Korean blind and then put the wood to the rest > of us. If they can manage it, that is. > Regards, > GG > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 22, 2013, at 8:05 PM, Richard Ring wrote: > >> It's certain not to be a problem regarding VoiceOver, however, why would >> Samsung wast their time stirring up a tempest in a teapot? They deserve none >> of my currency, that's for sure. >> >> >> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding >> Sent from my Mac Book Pro >> richr...@gmail.com >> >> On Feb 22, 2013, at 7:20 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: >> >>> The hell? That's senseless?. >>> Can they not handle competition or something? I don't foresee that >>> holding out and that's a waste of everybody's tax dollars, but the way I >>> look at it, if they want to waste their's and everybody else's time, all >>> the power to them. >>> On Feb 22, 2013, at 4:22 PM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote: >>> Hey Guys, This is completely off topic. However, this story I'm posting here is disturbing. samsung is suing Apple in a German court over Voice Over. They are claiming it violated one of their patents. What is disturbing, they are trying to get devices with Voice Over banned. Knowing what this would do to the blind community. This is so utterly despicable to me. This is just not a calculated business move. This could actually affect how the blind community has access to GOOD devices. As we all know, no one touches Apple when it comes to including the disabled with its computer and iOS devices. Anyways, I thought you might find this interesting. http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/02/22/samsungs-disability-lawsuit/ Best, J. p. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over!
Can we all just take a chill pill here? Samsung makes some of the best televisions on the planet. What happened in Germany has little if anything to do with accessibility at all. It was part of an ongoing legal maneuver to prevent Apple from kicking their ass in sales and market share. There's no reason to boycott Samsung for something a bunch of lawyers did in a foreign country. Why is it that blind people have to make a mountain out of molehills at every opportunity? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over!
Hi guys I sure am sorry I bought that TV and speaker several months back from Google Best Buy. It was made by this company. Now what's really strange is that several years ago, that company-sponsored a guy dog school in Correia. Go figure. Do something nice for Korean blind and then put the wood to the rest of us. If they can manage it, that is. Regards, GG Sent from my iPhone On Feb 22, 2013, at 8:05 PM, Richard Ring wrote: > It's certain not to be a problem regarding VoiceOver, however, why would > Samsung wast their time stirring up a tempest in a teapot? They deserve none > of my currency, that's for sure. > > > You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding > Sent from my Mac Book Pro > richr...@gmail.com > > On Feb 22, 2013, at 7:20 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: > >> The hell? That's senseless?. >> Can they not handle competition or something? I don't foresee that >> holding out and that's a waste of everybody's tax dollars, but the way I >> look at it, if they want to waste their's and everybody else's time, all the >> power to them. >> On Feb 22, 2013, at 4:22 PM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> >>> Hey Guys, >>> >>> This is completely off topic. However, this story I'm posting here is >>> disturbing. >>> samsung is suing Apple in a German court over Voice Over. They are claiming >>> it violated one of their patents. What is disturbing, they are trying to >>> get devices with Voice Over banned. Knowing what this would do to the blind >>> community. This is so utterly despicable to me. This is just not a >>> calculated business move. This could actually affect how the blind >>> community has access to GOOD devices. As we all know, no one touches Apple >>> when it comes to including the disabled with its computer and iOS devices. >>> Anyways, I thought you might find this interesting. >>> http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/02/22/samsungs-disability-lawsuit/ >>> >>> >>> Best, J. p. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over!
It's certain not to be a problem regarding VoiceOver, however, why would Samsung wast their time stirring up a tempest in a teapot? They deserve none of my currency, that's for sure. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 22, 2013, at 7:20 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: > The hell? That's senseless?. > Can they not handle competition or something? I don't foresee that holding > out and that's a waste of everybody's tax dollars, but the way I look at it, > if they want to waste their's and everybody else's time, all the power to > them. > On Feb 22, 2013, at 4:22 PM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote: > >> >> Hey Guys, >> >> This is completely off topic. However, this story I'm posting here is >> disturbing. >> samsung is suing Apple in a German court over Voice Over. They are claiming >> it violated one of their patents. What is disturbing, they are trying to get >> devices with Voice Over banned. Knowing what this would do to the blind >> community. This is so utterly despicable to me. This is just not a >> calculated business move. This could actually affect how the blind community >> has access to GOOD devices. As we all know, no one touches Apple when it >> comes to including the disabled with its computer and iOS devices. Anyways, >> I thought you might find this interesting. >> http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/02/22/samsungs-disability-lawsuit/ >> >> >> Best, J. p. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over!
The hell? That's senseless?. Can they not handle competition or something? I don't foresee that holding out and that's a waste of everybody's tax dollars, but the way I look at it, if they want to waste their's and everybody else's time, all the power to them. On Feb 22, 2013, at 4:22 PM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hey Guys, > > This is completely off topic. However, this story I'm posting here is > disturbing. > samsung is suing Apple in a German court over Voice Over. They are claiming > it violated one of their patents. What is disturbing, they are trying to get > devices with Voice Over banned. Knowing what this would do to the blind > community. This is so utterly despicable to me. This is just not a calculated > business move. This could actually affect how the blind community has access > to GOOD devices. As we all know, no one touches Apple when it comes to > including the disabled with its computer and iOS devices. Anyways, I thought > you might find this interesting. > http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/02/22/samsungs-disability-lawsuit/ > > > Best, J. p. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over!
I will never purchase one of their products! I can't believe they are so small minded! What do you expect from lawyers! You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 22, 2013, at 3:22 PM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hey Guys, > > This is completely off topic. However, this story I'm posting here is > disturbing. > samsung is suing Apple in a German court over Voice Over. They are claiming > it violated one of their patents. What is disturbing, they are trying to get > devices with Voice Over banned. Knowing what this would do to the blind > community. This is so utterly despicable to me. This is just not a calculated > business move. This could actually affect how the blind community has access > to GOOD devices. As we all know, no one touches Apple when it comes to > including the disabled with its computer and iOS devices. Anyways, I thought > you might find this interesting. > http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/02/22/samsungs-disability-lawsuit/ > > > Best, J. p. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over!
According to the article, echoed in the mac accessibility mailing, Samsung has lost this battle in the German court in question. However the pr damage should haunt them seriously. Does not google use their phones for their accessibility items? If the company wants to fight access, it should lose the right to such contracts etc. Just based on a swift read, voiceover is not going anywhere. Karen On Fri, 22 Feb 2013, Katie Zodrow wrote: That's good news. I was a little concerned about if Voiceover would still be available for I phone in the future. I was thinking of getting this for my next cell phone once I try out one of my friend's Iphones to see if I like it. I haven't used a touch screen before, so it will be a new experience. Katie - Original Message - From: Eugenia Firth To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 3:35 PM Subject: Re: OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over! Hi there Maybe I misremembering something, but didn't they not lose the last time they did something like this? Therefore, I don't think we should worry about it yet Regards GG Sent from my iPhone On Feb 22, 2013, at 3:22 PM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Guys, This is completely off topic. However, this story I'm posting here is disturbing. samsung is suing Apple in a German court over Voice Over. They are claiming it violated one of their patents. What is disturbing, they are trying to get devices with Voice Over banned. Knowing what this would do to the blind community. This is so utterly despicable to me. This is just not a calculated business move. This could actually affect how the blind community has access to GOOD devices. As we all know, no one touches Apple when it comes to including the disabled with its computer and iOS devices. Anyways, I thought you might find this interesting. http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/02/22/samsungs-disability-lawsuit/ Best, J. p. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over!
That's good news. I was a little concerned about if Voiceover would still be available for I phone in the future. I was thinking of getting this for my next cell phone once I try out one of my friend's Iphones to see if I like it. I haven't used a touch screen before, so it will be a new experience. Katie - Original Message - From: Eugenia Firth To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 3:35 PM Subject: Re: OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over! Hi there Maybe I misremembering something, but didn't they not lose the last time they did something like this? Therefore, I don't think we should worry about it yet Regards GG Sent from my iPhone On Feb 22, 2013, at 3:22 PM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Guys, This is completely off topic. However, this story I'm posting here is disturbing. samsung is suing Apple in a German court over Voice Over. They are claiming it violated one of their patents. What is disturbing, they are trying to get devices with Voice Over banned. Knowing what this would do to the blind community. This is so utterly despicable to me. This is just not a calculated business move. This could actually affect how the blind community has access to GOOD devices. As we all know, no one touches Apple when it comes to including the disabled with its computer and iOS devices. Anyways, I thought you might find this interesting. http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/02/22/samsungs-disability-lawsuit/ Best, J. p. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over!
Also, how long has voiceover been out? If this really is true, it seems like they waited an awful long time to sue over it. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Feb 22, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > Hi there > Maybe I misremembering something, but didn't they not lose the last time they > did something like this? Therefore, I don't think we should worry about it > yet > Regards > GG > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 22, 2013, at 3:22 PM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote: > >> >> Hey Guys, >> >> This is completely off topic. However, this story I'm posting here is >> disturbing. >> samsung is suing Apple in a German court over Voice Over. They are claiming >> it violated one of their patents. What is disturbing, they are trying to get >> devices with Voice Over banned. Knowing what this would do to the blind >> community. This is so utterly despicable to me. This is just not a >> calculated business move. This could actually affect how the blind community >> has access to GOOD devices. As we all know, no one touches Apple when it >> comes to including the disabled with its computer and iOS devices. Anyways, >> I thought you might find this interesting. >> http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/02/22/samsungs-disability-lawsuit/ >> >> >> Best, J. p. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over!
Hi there Maybe I misremembering something, but didn't they not lose the last time they did something like this? Therefore, I don't think we should worry about it yet Regards GG Sent from my iPhone On Feb 22, 2013, at 3:22 PM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hey Guys, > > This is completely off topic. However, this story I'm posting here is > disturbing. > samsung is suing Apple in a German court over Voice Over. They are claiming > it violated one of their patents. What is disturbing, they are trying to get > devices with Voice Over banned. Knowing what this would do to the blind > community. This is so utterly despicable to me. This is just not a calculated > business move. This could actually affect how the blind community has access > to GOOD devices. As we all know, no one touches Apple when it comes to > including the disabled with its computer and iOS devices. Anyways, I thought > you might find this interesting. > http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/02/22/samsungs-disability-lawsuit/ > > > Best, J. p. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over!
Hey Guys, This is completely off topic. However, this story I'm posting here is disturbing. samsung is suing Apple in a German court over Voice Over. They are claiming it violated one of their patents. What is disturbing, they are trying to get devices with Voice Over banned. Knowing what this would do to the blind community. This is so utterly despicable to me. This is just not a calculated business move. This could actually affect how the blind community has access to GOOD devices. As we all know, no one touches Apple when it comes to including the disabled with its computer and iOS devices. Anyways, I thought you might find this interesting. http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/02/22/samsungs-disability-lawsuit/ Best, J. p. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
