Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Anytime, Maurice. I'm not as good as Bill, but I'm still here! 

Still miss that guy bunches. Hardly a week goes by I don't want to pick
up the phone and call Bill.

Best,

Janina

maurice mines writes:
> Yes I do live in California, but I do have a memory. I don’t think I’ll ever 
> forget the person who taught me UNIX/Linux I am trying to decide which 
> distribution I’m going to install in the virtual machine on my Mac. It’s 
> either going to be  Ubuntu, or talking arch  Lenox.
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> All the best smile. Your friend Maurice.
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> > On Mar 28, 2020, at 23:50, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Ah, Maurice, that's about enough reason to move back to California, imo!
> > 
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > maurice mines writes:
> >> Dear Dave, slight correction here. California voters voted to leave at 
> >> daylight savings time and a statewide ballot measure in 2018. The state 
> >> must apply to the federal government to leave daylight savings time and/or 
> >> standard time and pick one time. But the boat, ballot measure at that time 
> >> stated clearly that the state wished to leave daylight savings time. I 
> >> don’t know about Oregon, and I don’t know about Washington state. I can 
> >> only tell you what we voted on in 2018. For the record the measure passed 
> >> by a two to one margin.
> >> 
> >> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
> >> 
> >>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 20:42, Dave Carlson  >>> > wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> We in Washington, Oregon, and California are seriously considering 
> >>> applying to the Federal Government to stop the madness and just go to 
> >>> Daylight Savings Time all year round. I’m looking forward to it happening 
> >>> in my lifetime.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Dave Carlson
> >>> Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian
> >>> 
> >>> 
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Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

[maurice mines]

Yes I do live in California, but I do have a memory. I don’t think I’ll ever 
forget the person who taught me UNIX/Linux I am trying to decide which 
distribution I’m going to install in the virtual machine on my Mac. It’s either 
going to be  Ubuntu, or talking arch  Lenox.

All the best smile. Your friend Maurice.
Amateur callsign kd0iko.
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> On Mar 28, 2020, at 23:50, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ah, Maurice, that's about enough reason to move back to California, imo!
> 
> 
> Janina
> 
> maurice mines writes:
>> Dear Dave, slight correction here. California voters voted to leave at 
>> daylight savings time and a statewide ballot measure in 2018. The state must 
>> apply to the federal government to leave daylight savings time and/or 
>> standard time and pick one time. But the boat, ballot measure at that time 
>> stated clearly that the state wished to leave daylight savings time. I don’t 
>> know about Oregon, and I don’t know about Washington state. I can only tell 
>> you what we voted on in 2018. For the record the measure passed by a two to 
>> one margin.
>> 
>> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 20:42, Dave Carlson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> We in Washington, Oregon, and California are seriously considering applying 
>>> to the Federal Government to stop the madness and just go to Daylight 
>>> Savings Time all year round. I’m looking forward to it happening in my 
>>> lifetime.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dave Carlson
>>> Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Ah, Maurice, that's about enough reason to move back to California, imo!


Janina

maurice mines writes:
> Dear Dave, slight correction here. California voters voted to leave at 
> daylight savings time and a statewide ballot measure in 2018. The state must 
> apply to the federal government to leave daylight savings time and/or 
> standard time and pick one time. But the boat, ballot measure at that time 
> stated clearly that the state wished to leave daylight savings time. I don’t 
> know about Oregon, and I don’t know about Washington state. I can only tell 
> you what we voted on in 2018. For the record the measure passed by a two to 
> one margin.
> 
> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
> 
> > On Mar 27, 2020, at 20:42, Dave Carlson  > > wrote:
> > 
> > We in Washington, Oregon, and California are seriously considering applying 
> > to the Federal Government to stop the madness and just go to Daylight 
> > Savings Time all year round. I’m looking forward to it happening in my 
> > lifetime.
> > 
> > 
> > Dave Carlson
> > Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian
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Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

[Dave Carlson]

Morris,
So it’s standard time that California voted on? Didn’t know that. But I do know 
that all three states need to get together and agree before the Fed will allow 
it to happen. I’d hate to have to switch time driving north/south across the 
borders.


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Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

[maurice mines]

Dear Dave, slight correction here. California voters voted to leave at daylight 
savings time and a statewide ballot measure in 2018. The state must apply to 
the federal government to leave daylight savings time and/or standard time and 
pick one time. But the boat, ballot measure at that time stated clearly that 
the state wished to leave daylight savings time. I don’t know about Oregon, and 
I don’t know about Washington state. I can only tell you what we voted on in 
2018. For the record the measure passed by a two to one margin.

Sincerely Maurice Mines.

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 20:42, Dave Carlson  > wrote:
> 
> We in Washington, Oregon, and California are seriously considering applying 
> to the Federal Government to stop the madness and just go to Daylight Savings 
> Time all year round. I’m looking forward to it happening in my lifetime.
> 
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian
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RE: Question please regarding the option-t time check

[Simon A Fogarty]

Probably but those 2 were the only ones I knew of.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Saturday, 28 March 2020 1:19 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

There are many places in the world that don’t observe Daylight Saving Time.  In 
addition to Iceland, both Arizona and Hawaii in the United States observe 
Standard time year-round.  The eastern half of Indiana at one time did not 
switch to DST, but I think that is no longer the case, as the entire state of 
Indiana is now in the Eastern time zone.
I’m sure there are many others.

- Brad -

On Mar 27, 2020, at 17:58, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

I only know of 2 places in the world where time doesn’t change between summer / 
winter or what we call daylight savings  here in nz,

They are china who only have 1 time zone and queensland Australia who don’t 
change time because it upsets the cattle farmers with it going dark at 3pm and 
getting light at 2:30am



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Saturday, 28 March 2020 4:38 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

Tim,

This is a good suggestion, however London time is not always the same as UTC.
Today London is on GMT, which is the same as UTC.  Starting Sunday March 29, 
London switches to British Summer Time (BST),) which is one hour ahead of 
GMT/UTC.

- Brad -

On Mar 27, 2020, at 10:26, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

Go into System Prefs, Date & Time, and press the Time Zone tab.  Make sure that 
"Set Time Zone Automatically Using Location" is not checked, then in the 
Closest City field type London.

That should do it.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 26, 2020, at 16:54, maurice mines 
mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:

I have a strange question sometime in amateur, I’d like to change my time to 
universal chlorinated time or Greenwich England to be precise is this possible? 
Since it would line up correctly with universal chlorinated time. Any thoughts?

Sincerely Maurice.



On Mar 26, 2020, at 13:48, Paul Parravano mailto:pa...@mit.edu>> 
wrote:

I’m hoping someone might know how to change this time announcement to 24 hour 
time? I’ve set 24 hour in both the date and time section, and language and 
region section.

Thanks for any guidance.

Paul

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Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

[Brad Snyder]

Don’t hold your breath.

- Brad -


On Mar 27, 2020, at 22:42, Dave Carlson  wrote:

We in Washington, Oregon, and California are seriously considering applying to 
the Federal Government to stop the madness and just go to Daylight Savings Time 
all year round. I’m looking forward to it happening in my lifetime.


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Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

[Dave Carlson]

We in Washington, Oregon, and California are seriously considering applying to 
the Federal Government to stop the madness and just go to Daylight Savings Time 
all year round. I’m looking forward to it happening in my lifetime.


Dave Carlson
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Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

[Brad Snyder]

There are many places in the world that don’t observe Daylight Saving Time.  In 
addition to Iceland, both Arizona and Hawaii in the United States observe 
Standard time year-round.  The eastern half of Indiana at one time did not 
switch to DST, but I think that is no longer the case, as the entire state of 
Indiana is now in the Eastern time zone.
I’m sure there are many others.

- Brad -


On Mar 27, 2020, at 17:58, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

I only know of 2 places in the world where time doesn’t change between summer / 
winter or what we call daylight savings  here in nz,
 
They are china who only have 1 time zone and queensland Australia who don’t 
change time because it upsets the cattle farmers with it going dark at 3pm and 
getting light at 2:30am
 
 
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Saturday, 28 March 2020 4:38 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check
 
Tim,
 
This is a good suggestion, however London time is not always the same as UTC.
Today London is on GMT, which is the same as UTC.  Starting Sunday March 29, 
London switches to British Summer Time (BST),) which is one hour ahead of 
GMT/UTC.
 
- Brad -

 
On Mar 27, 2020, at 10:26, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:
 
Hi,
 
Go into System Prefs, Date & Time, and press the Time Zone tab.  Make sure that 
"Set Time Zone Automatically Using Location" is not checked, then in the 
Closest City field type London.
 
That should do it.
 
Later...
 

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On Mar 26, 2020, at 16:54, maurice mines mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:
 
I have a strange question sometime in amateur, I’d like to change my time to 
universal chlorinated time or Greenwich England to be precise is this possible? 
Since it would line up correctly with universal chlorinated time. Any thoughts?

Sincerely Maurice.


On Mar 26, 2020, at 13:48, Paul Parravano mailto:pa...@mit.edu>> wrote:

I’m hoping someone might know how to change this time announcement to 24 hour 
time? I’ve set 24 hour in both the date and time section, and language and 
region section.

Thanks for any guidance.

Paul

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RE: Question please regarding the option-t time check

[Simon A Fogarty]

What if it’s set to grenich  then surely the time stays as gmt.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Saturday, 28 March 2020 5:04 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

Hi,

You are, of course, correct Brad.  As far as I can tell, that's the best 
option.  So, beginning this Sunday, you can either subtract an extra one, or 
change your city to something like Oslo, Norway.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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On Mar 27, 2020, at 09:38, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Tim,

This is a good suggestion, however London time is not always the same as UTC.
Today London is on GMT, which is the same as UTC.  Starting Sunday March 29, 
London switches to British Summer Time (BST),) which is one hour ahead of 
GMT/UTC.

- Brad -

On Mar 27, 2020, at 10:26, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

Go into System Prefs, Date & Time, and press the Time Zone tab.  Make sure that 
"Set Time Zone Automatically Using Location" is not checked, then in the 
Closest City field type London.

That should do it.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 26, 2020, at 16:54, maurice mines 
mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:

I have a strange question sometime in amateur, I’d like to change my time to 
universal chlorinated time or Greenwich England to be precise is this possible? 
Since it would line up correctly with universal chlorinated time. Any thoughts?

Sincerely Maurice.


On Mar 26, 2020, at 13:48, Paul Parravano mailto:pa...@mit.edu>> 
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I’m hoping someone might know how to change this time announcement to 24 hour 
time? I’ve set 24 hour in both the date and time section, and language and 
region section.

Thanks for any guidance.

Paul

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RE: Question please regarding the option-t time check

[Simon A Fogarty]

I only know of 2 places in the world where time doesn’t change between summer / 
winter or what we call daylight savings  here in nz,

They are china who only have 1 time zone and queensland Australia who don’t 
change time because it upsets the cattle farmers with it going dark at 3pm and 
getting light at 2:30am



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Saturday, 28 March 2020 4:38 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

Tim,

This is a good suggestion, however London time is not always the same as UTC.
Today London is on GMT, which is the same as UTC.  Starting Sunday March 29, 
London switches to British Summer Time (BST),) which is one hour ahead of 
GMT/UTC.

- Brad -

On Mar 27, 2020, at 10:26, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

Go into System Prefs, Date & Time, and press the Time Zone tab.  Make sure that 
"Set Time Zone Automatically Using Location" is not checked, then in the 
Closest City field type London.

That should do it.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 26, 2020, at 16:54, maurice mines 
mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:

I have a strange question sometime in amateur, I’d like to change my time to 
universal chlorinated time or Greenwich England to be precise is this possible? 
Since it would line up correctly with universal chlorinated time. Any thoughts?

Sincerely Maurice.


On Mar 26, 2020, at 13:48, Paul Parravano mailto:pa...@mit.edu>> 
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I’m hoping someone might know how to change this time announcement to 24 hour 
time? I’ve set 24 hour in both the date and time section, and language and 
region section.

Thanks for any guidance.

Paul

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[Brad Snyder]

👍😎

- Brad -

On Mar 27, 2020, at 13:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

Good job Brad.  That was my next lookup.  To see if there was a location using 
GMT that didn't switch to DST.

Thanks for keeping me on my toes.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
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On Mar 27, 2020, at 11:47, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Here's a workaround I've discovered.
Iceland is on GMT and does not observe daylight savings time. if possible, set 
your location to Reykjavík, and your clock should display UTC year-round.

HTH

- Brad -

On Mar 27, 2020, at 12:39, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Oslo is already one hour ahead of London. this Sunday, March 29, Norway along 
with the rest of continental Europe switches to their version of daylight 
savings time, just like the UK.

I'm not sure if there's a simple resolution to this question. on my iPhone, I 
use the world clock.  I don't think this is available  on a Mac.

- Brad -

On Mar 27, 2020, at 11:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

You are, of course, correct Brad.  As far as I can tell, that's the best 
option.  So, beginning this Sunday, you can either subtract an extra one, or 
change your city to something like Oslo, Norway.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 27, 2020, at 09:38, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Tim,

This is a good suggestion, however London time is not always the same as UTC.
Today London is on GMT, which is the same as UTC.  Starting Sunday March 29, 
London switches to British Summer Time (BST),) which is one hour ahead of 
GMT/UTC.

- Brad -


On Mar 27, 2020, at 10:26, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

Go into System Prefs, Date & Time, and press the Time Zone tab.  Make sure that 
"Set Time Zone Automatically Using Location" is not checked, then in the 
Closest City field type London.

That should do it.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 26, 2020, at 16:54, maurice mines  wrote:

I have a strange question sometime in amateur, I’d like to change my time to 
universal chlorinated time or Greenwich England to be precise is this possible? 
Since it would line up correctly with universal chlorinated time. Any thoughts?

Sincerely Maurice.

> On Mar 26, 2020, at 13:48, Paul Parravano  wrote:
> 
> I’m hoping someone might know how to change this time announcement to 24 hour 
> time? I’ve set 24 hour in both the date and time section, and language and 
> region section.
> 
> Thanks for any guidance.
> 
> Paul
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Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Good job Brad.  That was my next lookup.  To see if there was a location using 
GMT that didn't switch to DST.

Thanks for keeping me on my toes.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 27, 2020, at 11:47, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Here's a workaround I've discovered.
Iceland is on GMT and does not observe daylight savings time. if possible, set 
your location to Reykjavík, and your clock should display UTC year-round.

HTH

- Brad -

On Mar 27, 2020, at 12:39, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Oslo is already one hour ahead of London. this Sunday, March 29, Norway along 
with the rest of continental Europe switches to their version of daylight 
savings time, just like the UK.

I'm not sure if there's a simple resolution to this question. on my iPhone, I 
use the world clock.  I don't think this is available  on a Mac.

- Brad -

On Mar 27, 2020, at 11:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

You are, of course, correct Brad.  As far as I can tell, that's the best 
option.  So, beginning this Sunday, you can either subtract an extra one, or 
change your city to something like Oslo, Norway.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 27, 2020, at 09:38, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Tim,

This is a good suggestion, however London time is not always the same as UTC.
Today London is on GMT, which is the same as UTC.  Starting Sunday March 29, 
London switches to British Summer Time (BST),) which is one hour ahead of 
GMT/UTC.

- Brad -


On Mar 27, 2020, at 10:26, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

Hi,

Go into System Prefs, Date & Time, and press the Time Zone tab.  Make sure that 
"Set Time Zone Automatically Using Location" is not checked, then in the 
Closest City field type London.

That should do it.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 26, 2020, at 16:54, maurice mines mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:

I have a strange question sometime in amateur, I’d like to change my time to 
universal chlorinated time or Greenwich England to be precise is this possible? 
Since it would line up correctly with universal chlorinated time. Any thoughts?

Sincerely Maurice.

> On Mar 26, 2020, at 13:48, Paul Parravano  > wrote:
> 
> I’m hoping someone might know how to change this time announcement to 24 hour 
> time? I’ve set 24 hour in both the date and time section, and language and 
> region section.
> 
> Thanks for any guidance.
> 
> Paul
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Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

[Brad Snyder]

Here's a workaround I've discovered.
Iceland is on GMT and does not observe daylight savings time. if possible, set 
your location to Reykjavík, and your clock should display UTC year-round.

HTH

- Brad -

On Mar 27, 2020, at 12:39, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Oslo is already one hour ahead of London. this Sunday, March 29, Norway along 
with the rest of continental Europe switches to their version of daylight 
savings time, just like the UK.

I'm not sure if there's a simple resolution to this question. on my iPhone, I 
use the world clock.  I don't think this is available  on a Mac.

- Brad -

On Mar 27, 2020, at 11:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

You are, of course, correct Brad.  As far as I can tell, that's the best 
option.  So, beginning this Sunday, you can either subtract an extra one, or 
change your city to something like Oslo, Norway.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 27, 2020, at 09:38, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Tim,

This is a good suggestion, however London time is not always the same as UTC.
Today London is on GMT, which is the same as UTC.  Starting Sunday March 29, 
London switches to British Summer Time (BST),) which is one hour ahead of 
GMT/UTC.

- Brad -


On Mar 27, 2020, at 10:26, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

Go into System Prefs, Date & Time, and press the Time Zone tab.  Make sure that 
"Set Time Zone Automatically Using Location" is not checked, then in the 
Closest City field type London.

That should do it.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 26, 2020, at 16:54, maurice mines  wrote:

I have a strange question sometime in amateur, I’d like to change my time to 
universal chlorinated time or Greenwich England to be precise is this possible? 
Since it would line up correctly with universal chlorinated time. Any thoughts?

Sincerely Maurice.

> On Mar 26, 2020, at 13:48, Paul Parravano  wrote:
> 
> I’m hoping someone might know how to change this time announcement to 24 hour 
> time? I’ve set 24 hour in both the date and time section, and language and 
> region section.
> 
> Thanks for any guidance.
> 
> Paul
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Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

[Brad Snyder]

Oslo is already one hour ahead of London. this Sunday, March 29, Norway along 
with the rest of continental Europe switches to their version of daylight 
savings time, just like the UK.

I'm not sure if there's a simple resolution to this question. on my iPhone, I 
use the world clock.  I don't think this is available  on a Mac.

- Brad -

On Mar 27, 2020, at 11:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

You are, of course, correct Brad.  As far as I can tell, that's the best 
option.  So, beginning this Sunday, you can either subtract an extra one, or 
change your city to something like Oslo, Norway.

Later...


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On Mar 27, 2020, at 09:38, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Tim,

This is a good suggestion, however London time is not always the same as UTC.
Today London is on GMT, which is the same as UTC.  Starting Sunday March 29, 
London switches to British Summer Time (BST),) which is one hour ahead of 
GMT/UTC.

- Brad -


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Hi,

Go into System Prefs, Date & Time, and press the Time Zone tab.  Make sure that 
"Set Time Zone Automatically Using Location" is not checked, then in the 
Closest City field type London.

That should do it.

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On Mar 26, 2020, at 16:54, maurice mines  wrote:

I have a strange question sometime in amateur, I’d like to change my time to 
universal chlorinated time or Greenwich England to be precise is this possible? 
Since it would line up correctly with universal chlorinated time. Any thoughts?

Sincerely Maurice.

> On Mar 26, 2020, at 13:48, Paul Parravano  wrote:
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Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

You are, of course, correct Brad.  As far as I can tell, that's the best 
option.  So, beginning this Sunday, you can either subtract an extra one, or 
change your city to something like Oslo, Norway.

Later...


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On Mar 27, 2020, at 09:38, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Tim,

This is a good suggestion, however London time is not always the same as UTC.
Today London is on GMT, which is the same as UTC.  Starting Sunday March 29, 
London switches to British Summer Time (BST),) which is one hour ahead of 
GMT/UTC.

- Brad -


On Mar 27, 2020, at 10:26, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

Hi,

Go into System Prefs, Date & Time, and press the Time Zone tab.  Make sure that 
"Set Time Zone Automatically Using Location" is not checked, then in the 
Closest City field type London.

That should do it.

Later...


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On Mar 26, 2020, at 16:54, maurice mines mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:

I have a strange question sometime in amateur, I’d like to change my time to 
universal chlorinated time or Greenwich England to be precise is this possible? 
Since it would line up correctly with universal chlorinated time. Any thoughts?

Sincerely Maurice.

> On Mar 26, 2020, at 13:48, Paul Parravano  > wrote:
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Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

[Brad Snyder]

Tim,

This is a good suggestion, however London time is not always the same as UTC.
Today London is on GMT, which is the same as UTC.  Starting Sunday March 29, 
London switches to British Summer Time (BST),) which is one hour ahead of 
GMT/UTC.

- Brad -


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Hi,

Go into System Prefs, Date & Time, and press the Time Zone tab.  Make sure that 
"Set Time Zone Automatically Using Location" is not checked, then in the 
Closest City field type London.

That should do it.

Later...


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On Mar 26, 2020, at 16:54, maurice mines mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:

I have a strange question sometime in amateur, I’d like to change my time to 
universal chlorinated time or Greenwich England to be precise is this possible? 
Since it would line up correctly with universal chlorinated time. Any thoughts?

Sincerely Maurice.

> On Mar 26, 2020, at 13:48, Paul Parravano  > wrote:
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Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Go into System Prefs, Date & Time, and press the Time Zone tab.  Make sure that 
"Set Time Zone Automatically Using Location" is not checked, then in the 
Closest City field type London.

That should do it.

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On Mar 26, 2020, at 16:54, maurice mines  wrote:

I have a strange question sometime in amateur, I’d like to change my time to 
universal chlorinated time or Greenwich England to be precise is this possible? 
Since it would line up correctly with universal chlorinated time. Any thoughts?

Sincerely Maurice.

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Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

[maurice mines]

I have a strange question sometime in amateur, I’d like to change my time to 
universal chlorinated time or Greenwich England to be precise is this possible? 
Since it would line up correctly with universal chlorinated time. Any thoughts?

Sincerely Maurice.

> On Mar 26, 2020, at 13:48, Paul Parravano  wrote:
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Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

[Brandon Olivares]

Hi,

Yeah you have to edit the script. For me it’s in 
/Library/Scripts/VoiceOver/Time Of Day.applescript

Just scrolling through the script, I think you can remove these lines:

--  readjust for 12 hour time
if (currentHour > 12) then
set currentHour to (currentHour - 12)
end if

Hope that helps.

Brandon


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Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

[John Panarese]

  I’m guessing you’d have to directly edit the script itself. I am not sure 
where that is now being saved. I’d have to poke around, but then the question 
of editing the script would be next.


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Question please regarding the option-t time check

[Paul Parravano]

I’m hoping someone might know how to change this time announcement to 24 hour 
time? I’ve set 24 hour in both the date and time section, and language and 
region section.

Thanks for any guidance.

Paul

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