Re: Sonos collecting personal information

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Grant,

There's a difference between can be used outdoors, and designed for outdoor 
use.  Neither the HomePod nor the Sonos are designed to just be left outdoors, 
though Apple does say the HomePods have a pretty significant degree of 
water-proofing..  Re our Sonos, we leave them outdoors if the weather's OK, and 
bring them in when it isn't.  We've been doing that with our Sonos for several 
years now, and they still work just fine.

We've decided to make our Sonos last till the end of this season by simply not 
installing any further upgrades, and thus avoiding having to create an account. 
 I suspect that when we switch to the HomePods next year, we'll get some kind 
of case for them, since they don't have the hard plastic shell that the Sonos 
have.
Best,
Donna

> On Aug 16, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Grant Hardy  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna, where did you read that HomePod can be used outdoors? According to 
> this Apple support article “cleaning and taking care of HomePod”, HomePod is 
> intended for indoor use only. Here is the link: 
> https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT208435 
> 
> 
> That said, the HomePod really is a terrific speaker and I’m very happy with 
> how it performs.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Grant
> 
> 
>> On Sunday, Jul 15, 2018, at 11:08:44 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That's my feeling, too.  I figured there will be people who don't care, but 
>> any Sonos users should have the option of making an informed choice.  
>> Interestingly, my husband and I have been researching alternatives.  I 
>> didn't think you could leave a HomePod outdoors, but according to Apple, you 
>> can.  My husband also found a case for Homepods made by Catalyst, that says 
>> it will protect the HomePod in up to six feet of water.  So, I think we're 
>> going to be going with HomePods and ditching our Sonos.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2018, at 12:40 PM, Karen Lewellen >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> I will be sharing this article with those I know who might not be aware.
>>> Personally speaking?
>>> There is no way  in this universe that I would allow   that to happen..for 
>>> speakers?
>>> no.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 15 Jul 2018, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 I just thought I would post this for those of you using or thinking about 
 using Sonos speakers.  Sonos is now making it mandatory that users 
 register their devices, and has instituted a new privacy policy requiring 
 that users agree to allow them to collect users' data and information.  
 Below is a link to an article I found that discusses that issue.  I was 
 not able to find the mentioned setting that allows you to disable usage 
 data sharing, maybe someone else will be able to do that.  But even so, 
 the article gives a good overview of these changes.
 https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flifehacker.com%2Fhow-to-stop-your-sonos-from-collecting-as-much-person-1798403771&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cef292d67cd46493fd42308d5ea7e0585%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636672749329211078&sdata=2uh6JG8QUIhFqg9tVj3puIXalUllHIcx1Nle4H1p5XU%3D&reserved=0
  
 
 
 For Alexa users this may be nothing new.  But as for me, I don't see any 
 reason for them to get my information.  My Sonos speakers may be going on 
 Craig's list.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 
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Re: Sonos collecting personal information

[Grant Hardy]

Hi Donna, where did you read that HomePod can be used outdoors? According to 
this Apple support article “cleaning and taking care of HomePod”, HomePod is 
intended for indoor use only. Here is the link: 
https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT208435 


That said, the HomePod really is a terrific speaker and I’m very happy with how 
it performs.

Thanks,

Grant


> On Sunday, Jul 15, 2018, at 11:08:44 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's my feeling, too.  I figured there will be people who don't care, but 
> any Sonos users should have the option of making an informed choice.  
> Interestingly, my husband and I have been researching alternatives.  I didn't 
> think you could leave a HomePod outdoors, but according to Apple, you can.  
> My husband also found a case for Homepods made by Catalyst, that says it will 
> protect the HomePod in up to six feet of water.  So, I think we're going to 
> be going with HomePods and ditching our Sonos.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2018, at 12:40 PM, Karen Lewellen > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> I will be sharing this article with those I know who might not be aware.
>> Personally speaking?
>> There is no way  in this universe that I would allow   that to happen..for 
>> speakers?
>> no.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, 15 Jul 2018, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I just thought I would post this for those of you using or thinking about 
>>> using Sonos speakers.  Sonos is now making it mandatory that users register 
>>> their devices, and has instituted a new privacy policy requiring that users 
>>> agree to allow them to collect users' data and information.  Below is a 
>>> link to an article I found that discusses that issue.  I was not able to 
>>> find the mentioned setting that allows you to disable usage data sharing, 
>>> maybe someone else will be able to do that.  But even so, the article gives 
>>> a good overview of these changes.
>>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flifehacker.com%2Fhow-to-stop-your-sonos-from-collecting-as-much-person-1798403771&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cef292d67cd46493fd42308d5ea7e0585%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636672749329211078&sdata=2uh6JG8QUIhFqg9tVj3puIXalUllHIcx1Nle4H1p5XU%3D&reserved=0
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For Alexa users this may be nothing new.  But as for me, I don't see any 
>>> reason for them to get my information.  My Sonos speakers may be going on 
>>> Craig's list.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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RE: Sonos collecting personal information

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah tha'ts not going to happen,

I'll have to email them and advise of my dislike for this 

Thanks for the article.

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Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: Monday, 16 July 2018 5:40 AM
To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Sonos collecting personal information

Hi Donna,
I will be sharing this article with those I know who might not be aware.
Personally speaking?
There is no way  in this universe that I would allow   that to happen..for 
speakers?
  no.



On Sun, 15 Jul 2018, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I just thought I would post this for those of you using or thinking about 
> using Sonos speakers.  Sonos is now making it mandatory that users register 
> their devices, and has instituted a new privacy policy requiring that users 
> agree to allow them to collect users' data and information.  Below is a link 
> to an article I found that discusses that issue.  I was not able to find the 
> mentioned setting that allows you to disable usage data sharing, maybe 
> someone else will be able to do that.  But even so, the article gives a good 
> overview of these changes.
> https://lifehacker.com/how-to-stop-your-sonos-from-collecting-as-much-person-1798403771
>
> For Alexa users this may be nothing new.  But as for me, I don't see any 
> reason for them to get my information.  My Sonos speakers may be going on 
> Craig's list.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
>
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Re: Sonos collecting personal information

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

That's my feeling, too.  I figured there will be people who don't care, but any 
Sonos users should have the option of making an informed choice.  
Interestingly, my husband and I have been researching alternatives.  I didn't 
think you could leave a HomePod outdoors, but according to Apple, you can.  My 
husband also found a case for Homepods made by Catalyst, that says it will 
protect the HomePod in up to six feet of water.  So, I think we're going to be 
going with HomePods and ditching our Sonos.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jul 15, 2018, at 12:40 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> I will be sharing this article with those I know who might not be aware.
> Personally speaking?
> There is no way  in this universe that I would allow   that to happen..for 
> speakers?
> no.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2018, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I just thought I would post this for those of you using or thinking about 
>> using Sonos speakers.  Sonos is now making it mandatory that users register 
>> their devices, and has instituted a new privacy policy requiring that users 
>> agree to allow them to collect users' data and information.  Below is a link 
>> to an article I found that discusses that issue.  I was not able to find the 
>> mentioned setting that allows you to disable usage data sharing, maybe 
>> someone else will be able to do that.  But even so, the article gives a good 
>> overview of these changes.
>> https://lifehacker.com/how-to-stop-your-sonos-from-collecting-as-much-person-1798403771
>> 
>> For Alexa users this may be nothing new.  But as for me, I don't see any 
>> reason for them to get my information.  My Sonos speakers may be going on 
>> Craig's list.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: Sonos collecting personal information

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi Donna,
I will be sharing this article with those I know who might not be aware.
Personally speaking?
There is no way  in this universe that I would allow   that to happen..for 
speakers?

 no.



On Sun, 15 Jul 2018, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hi all,

I just thought I would post this for those of you using or thinking about using 
Sonos speakers.  Sonos is now making it mandatory that users register their 
devices, and has instituted a new privacy policy requiring that users agree to 
allow them to collect users' data and information.  Below is a link to an 
article I found that discusses that issue.  I was not able to find the 
mentioned setting that allows you to disable usage data sharing, maybe someone 
else will be able to do that.  But even so, the article gives a good overview 
of these changes.
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-stop-your-sonos-from-collecting-as-much-person-1798403771

For Alexa users this may be nothing new.  But as for me, I don't see any reason 
for them to get my information.  My Sonos speakers may be going on Craig's list.
Cheers,
Donna


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Re: Sonos collecting personal information

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

That's a good read, albeit a little technical.  thanks for posting.--Donna

> On Jul 15, 2018, at 9:16 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> The following article may also be of interest.
> https://blog.bolt.io/what-cracking-open-a-sonos-one-tells-us-about-the-sonos-ipo-dcab49155643
> 
> 
> On 7/15/18, 08:54, "'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries" 
>  wrote:
> 
>Hi all,
> 
>I just thought I would post this for those of you using or thinking about 
> using Sonos speakers.  Sonos is now making it mandatory that users register 
> their devices, and has instituted a new privacy policy requiring that users 
> agree to allow them to collect users' data and information.  Below is a link 
> to an article I found that discusses that issue.  I was not able to find the 
> mentioned setting that allows you to disable usage data sharing, maybe 
> someone else will be able to do that.  But even so, the article gives a good 
> overview of these changes.
>
> https://lifehacker.com/how-to-stop-your-sonos-from-collecting-as-much-person-1798403771
> 
>For Alexa users this may be nothing new.  But as for me, I don't see any 
> reason for them to get my information.  My Sonos speakers may be going on 
> Craig's list.  
>Cheers,
>Donna
> 
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Re: Sonos collecting personal information

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Yeah.  And I can't think of any reason under the sun why they would need to 
have my IP address.
cheers,
Donna

> On Jul 15, 2018, at 10:07 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   Collecting user data is big business and big money but we do not get to 
> share the money. And I am not convinced that even if we opt out that our 
> information is nt shared. Mandatory registration? Interesting.
> 
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> it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan
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> On 7/15/2018 5:54 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I just thought I would post this for those of you using or thinking about 
>> using Sonos speakers.  Sonos is now making it mandatory that users register 
>> their devices, and has instituted a new privacy policy requiring that users 
>> agree to allow them to collect users' data and information.  Below is a link 
>> to an article I found that discusses that issue.  I was not able to find the 
>> mentioned setting that allows you to disable usage data sharing, maybe 
>> someone else will be able to do that.  But even so, the article gives a good 
>> overview of these changes.
>> https://lifehacker.com/how-to-stop-your-sonos-from-collecting-as-much-person-1798403771
>> For Alexa users this may be nothing new.  But as for me, I don't see any 
>> reason for them to get my information.  My Sonos speakers may be going on 
>> Craig's list.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: Sonos collecting personal information

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Collecting user data is big business and big money but we do not get 
to share the money. And I am not convinced that even if we opt out that 
our information is nt shared. Mandatory registration? Interesting.


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On 7/15/2018 5:54 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi all,

I just thought I would post this for those of you using or thinking about using 
Sonos speakers.  Sonos is now making it mandatory that users register their 
devices, and has instituted a new privacy policy requiring that users agree to 
allow them to collect users' data and information.  Below is a link to an 
article I found that discusses that issue.  I was not able to find the 
mentioned setting that allows you to disable usage data sharing, maybe someone 
else will be able to do that.  But even so, the article gives a good overview 
of these changes.
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-stop-your-sonos-from-collecting-as-much-person-1798403771

For Alexa users this may be nothing new.  But as for me, I don't see any reason 
for them to get my information.  My Sonos speakers may be going on Craig's list.
Cheers,
Donna




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Re: Sonos collecting personal information

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

The following article may also be of interest.
https://blog.bolt.io/what-cracking-open-a-sonos-one-tells-us-about-the-sonos-ipo-dcab49155643


On 7/15/18, 08:54, "'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries" 
 wrote:

Hi all,

I just thought I would post this for those of you using or thinking about 
using Sonos speakers.  Sonos is now making it mandatory that users register 
their devices, and has instituted a new privacy policy requiring that users 
agree to allow them to collect users' data and information.  Below is a link to 
an article I found that discusses that issue.  I was not able to find the 
mentioned setting that allows you to disable usage data sharing, maybe someone 
else will be able to do that.  But even so, the article gives a good overview 
of these changes.

https://lifehacker.com/how-to-stop-your-sonos-from-collecting-as-much-person-1798403771

For Alexa users this may be nothing new.  But as for me, I don't see any 
reason for them to get my information.  My Sonos speakers may be going on 
Craig's list.  
Cheers,
Donna


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