Re: VMware Fusion/Player
The issue is licensing Fusion. Some kind of license is required, and this is arranged during the web-based back and forth that leads to package and license file downloads. The free license simply isn't offered as an option. Only paid options are offered. 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes: >Has anyone had success getting the free license for VMware Player 13.5? > What is the issue with this process? Thanks. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > -Helen Keller > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 2/20/2024 4:21 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: > > The on line process doesn't work. I don't know why, but other people > > have had the same problem. > > > > 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes: > > > What is the issue with renewing? I will need to do the same as well. > > > > > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > > > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > > > -Helen Keller > > > My e-Mail: > > > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > > > > > On 2/19/2024 12:17 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: > > > > There's an available license that's free of charge. It's available to > > > > students and to other categories they name. I have had one based on my > > > > W3C activities for some time. > > > > > > > > However, I've been unable to renew. It's been very frustrating. > > > > > > > > Janina > > > > > > > > Anders Holmberg writes: > > > > > Hi! > > > > > Is the fusion free of charge or do I have to pay for it? > > > > > Bless. > > > > > /A > > > > > > > > > > > 11 feb. 2024 kl. 15:57 skrev 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > I get this when I try to install windows 11. > > > > > > Check your Startup Disk in the virtual machine settings. If you > > > > > > have not installed an operating system yet, you can choose an > > > > > > installation disc or disc image in the CD/DVD settings and restart > > > > > > the virtual machine. > > > > > > I???m on an Intel mac. > > > > > > On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Anders Holmberg > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > Vocr is so hard to use. > > > > > > > I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver? > > > > > > > /A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR > > > > > > > > to get through setup and then add VMWare tools. Only then did > > > > > > > > I get Narrator sound. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I???m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows > > > > > > > > startup sound after going through the first steps of OS install > > > > > > > > where you enter a product key and such. But I didn???t have > > > > > > > > Narrator speech. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kelly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28???PM, Kelly Ford > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer > > > > > > > > > beta today. VMware virtual machines do not shutdown > > > > > > > > > immediately any longer but I???m not getting any sound from a > > > > > > > > > VM to use Narrator during OS install > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50???AM, Anders Holmberg > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > > > Vocr is very very tedious. > > > > > > > > > > So I rather not use any virtual machine. > > > > > > > > > > I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install > > > > > > > > > > linux onto or windows. > > > > > > > > > > Bless. > > > > > > > > > > /A > > > > > > > > > > > 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via > > > > > > > > > > > MacVisionaries : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? > > > > > > > > > > > I find it very tedious and definitely would prefer to > > > > > > > > > > > avoid that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > The following information is important for all members of > > > > > > > > > > > the Mac Visionaries list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running > > > > > > > > > > > of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is > > > > > > > > > > > inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > > > > > > > > > > > directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You > > > > > > > > > > > can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Has anyone had success getting the free license for VMware Player 13.5? What is the issue with this process? Thanks. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 2/20/2024 4:21 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: The on line process doesn't work. I don't know why, but other people have had the same problem. 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes: What is the issue with renewing? I will need to do the same as well. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 2/19/2024 12:17 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: There's an available license that's free of charge. It's available to students and to other categories they name. I have had one based on my W3C activities for some time. However, I've been unable to renew. It's been very frustrating. Janina Anders Holmberg writes: Hi! Is the fusion free of charge or do I have to pay for it? Bless. /A 11 feb. 2024 kl. 15:57 skrev 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries : I get this when I try to install windows 11. Check your Startup Disk in the virtual machine settings. If you have not installed an operating system yet, you can choose an installation disc or disc image in the CD/DVD settings and restart the virtual machine. I???m on an Intel mac. On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Vocr is so hard to use. I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver? /A 11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford : Well, I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to get through setup and then add VMWare tools. Only then did I get Narrator sound. I???m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup sound after going through the first steps of OS install where you enter a product key and such. But I didn???t have Narrator speech. Kelly On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28???PM, Kelly Ford wrote: Hi, For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. VMware virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I???m not getting any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see. On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50???AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Hi! Vocr is very very tedious. So I rather not use any virtual machine. I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto or windows. Bless. /A 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries : How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it very tedious and definitely would prefer to avoid that. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/53ECE646-4CE0-404E-869C-70CF382200A7%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/3E421955-BC0E-4561-BBC7-6BCDAF63F0A9%40pipkrokodil.se. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moder
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
I was referring to the license for VMware Fusion. mattias jonsson writes: > i wonder if narrator are removed from newer windows arm builds setup > > > 19 feb. 2024 kl. 21:17 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > > : > > > > There's an available license that's free of charge. It's available to > > students and to other categories they name. I have had one based on my > > W3C activities for some time. > > > > However, I've been unable to renew. It's been very frustrating. > > > > Janina > > > > Anders Holmberg writes: > >> Hi! > >> Is the fusion free of charge or do I have to pay for it? > >> Bless. > >> /A > >> > >>> 11 feb. 2024 kl. 15:57 skrev 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries > >>> : > >>> > >>> I get this when I try to install windows 11. > >>> Check your Startup Disk in the virtual machine settings. If you have not > >>> installed an operating system yet, you can choose an installation disc or > >>> disc image in the CD/DVD settings and restart the virtual machine. > >>> I???m on an Intel mac. > >>> On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Anders Holmberg > >>> wrote: > > Hi! > Vocr is so hard to use. > I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver? > /A > > > 11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford : > > > > Well, > > > > I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to get > > through setup and then add VMWare tools. Only then did I get Narrator > > sound. > > > > I???m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup sound > > after going through the first steps of OS install where you enter a > > product key and such. But I didn???t have Narrator speech. > > > > Kelly > > > > > >> On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28???PM, Kelly Ford > >> wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta > >> today. VMware virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer > >> but I???m not getting any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS > >> install > >> > >> I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see. > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50???AM, Anders Holmberg > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi! > >>> Hi! > >>> Vocr is very very tedious. > >>> So I rather not use any virtual machine. > >>> I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto > >>> or windows. > >>> Bless. > >>> /A > 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via > MacVisionaries : > > How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it > very tedious and definitely would prefer to avoid that. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this > list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please > contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the > list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can > reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/53ECE646-4CE0-404E-869C-70CF382200A7%40me.com. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac > >>> Visionaries list. > >>> > >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > >>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > >>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list > >>> itself. > >>> > >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > >>> mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach > >>> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >>> > >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > >>> --- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > >>> send an
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
i wonder if narrator are removed from newer windows arm builds setup > 19 feb. 2024 kl. 21:17 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > : > > There's an available license that's free of charge. It's available to > students and to other categories they name. I have had one based on my > W3C activities for some time. > > However, I've been unable to renew. It's been very frustrating. > > Janina > > Anders Holmberg writes: >> Hi! >> Is the fusion free of charge or do I have to pay for it? >> Bless. >> /A >> >>> 11 feb. 2024 kl. 15:57 skrev 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries >>> : >>> >>> I get this when I try to install windows 11. >>> Check your Startup Disk in the virtual machine settings. If you have not >>> installed an operating system yet, you can choose an installation disc or >>> disc image in the CD/DVD settings and restart the virtual machine. >>> I???m on an Intel mac. >>> On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Vocr is so hard to use. I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver? /A > 11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford : > > Well, > > I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to get > through setup and then add VMWare tools. Only then did I get Narrator > sound. > > I???m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup sound > after going through the first steps of OS install where you enter a > product key and such. But I didn???t have Narrator speech. > > Kelly > > >> On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28???PM, Kelly Ford wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. >> VMware virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I???m >> not getting any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install >> >> I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see. >> >> >> >>> On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50???AM, Anders Holmberg >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> Hi! >>> Vocr is very very tedious. >>> So I rather not use any virtual machine. >>> I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto >>> or windows. >>> Bless. >>> /A 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries : How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it very tedious and definitely would prefer to avoid that. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/53ECE646-4CE0-404E-869C-70CF382200A7%40me.com. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>> itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara >>> at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/3E421955-BC0E-4561-BBC7-6BCDAF63F0A9%40pipkrokodil.se. >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. >
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
That is what I was afraid was the case. I had run into this shortly after upgrading to Sonoma last year. Was hoping it had been corrected by now. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 2/20/2024 4:21 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: The on line process doesn't work. I don't know why, but other people have had the same problem. 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes: What is the issue with renewing? I will need to do the same as well. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 2/19/2024 12:17 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: There's an available license that's free of charge. It's available to students and to other categories they name. I have had one based on my W3C activities for some time. However, I've been unable to renew. It's been very frustrating. Janina Anders Holmberg writes: Hi! Is the fusion free of charge or do I have to pay for it? Bless. /A 11 feb. 2024 kl. 15:57 skrev 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries : I get this when I try to install windows 11. Check your Startup Disk in the virtual machine settings. If you have not installed an operating system yet, you can choose an installation disc or disc image in the CD/DVD settings and restart the virtual machine. I???m on an Intel mac. On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Vocr is so hard to use. I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver? /A 11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford : Well, I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to get through setup and then add VMWare tools. Only then did I get Narrator sound. I???m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup sound after going through the first steps of OS install where you enter a product key and such. But I didn???t have Narrator speech. Kelly On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28???PM, Kelly Ford wrote: Hi, For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. VMware virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I???m not getting any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see. On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50???AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Hi! Vocr is very very tedious. So I rather not use any virtual machine. I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto or windows. Bless. /A 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries : How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it very tedious and definitely would prefer to avoid that. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/53ECE646-4CE0-404E-869C-70CF382200A7%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/3E421955-BC0E-4561-BBC7-6BCDAF63F0A9%40pipkrokodil.se. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Y
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
The on line process doesn't work. I don't know why, but other people have had the same problem. 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes: >What is the issue with renewing? I will need to do the same as well. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > -Helen Keller > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 2/19/2024 12:17 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: > > There's an available license that's free of charge. It's available to > > students and to other categories they name. I have had one based on my > > W3C activities for some time. > > > > However, I've been unable to renew. It's been very frustrating. > > > > Janina > > > > Anders Holmberg writes: > > > Hi! > > > Is the fusion free of charge or do I have to pay for it? > > > Bless. > > > /A > > > > > > > 11 feb. 2024 kl. 15:57 skrev 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries > > > > : > > > > > > > > I get this when I try to install windows 11. > > > > Check your Startup Disk in the virtual machine settings. If you have > > > > not installed an operating system yet, you can choose an installation > > > > disc or disc image in the CD/DVD settings and restart the virtual > > > > machine. > > > > I???m on an Intel mac. > > > > On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Anders Holmberg > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > Vocr is so hard to use. > > > > > I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver? > > > > > /A > > > > > > > > > > > 11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford : > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to > > > > > > get through setup and then add VMWare tools. Only then did I get > > > > > > Narrator sound. > > > > > > > > > > > > I???m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup > > > > > > sound after going through the first steps of OS install where you > > > > > > enter a product key and such. But I didn???t have Narrator speech. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kelly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28???PM, Kelly Ford > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta > > > > > > > today. VMware virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any > > > > > > > longer but I???m not getting any sound from a VM to use Narrator > > > > > > > during OS install > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50???AM, Anders Holmberg > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > Vocr is very very tedious. > > > > > > > > So I rather not use any virtual machine. > > > > > > > > I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install > > > > > > > > linux onto or windows. > > > > > > > > Bless. > > > > > > > > /A > > > > > > > > > 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via > > > > > > > > > MacVisionaries : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I > > > > > > > > > find it very tedious and definitely would prefer to avoid > > > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > The following information is important for all members of the > > > > > > > > > Mac Visionaries list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of > > > > > > > > > this list, or if you feel that a member's post is > > > > > > > > > inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > > > > > > > > > directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can > > > > > > > > > reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - > > > > > > > > > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > > > > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > > > > > > > > Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > > > > > > > > > it, send an email to > > > > > > > > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > > > > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/53ECE646-4CE0-404E-869C-70CF382200A7%40me.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > The following information is important for all members of the > > > > > > > > Mac Visionaries list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this > > > > > > > > list, or if you feel that a member's
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
What is the issue with renewing? I will need to do the same as well. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 2/19/2024 12:17 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: There's an available license that's free of charge. It's available to students and to other categories they name. I have had one based on my W3C activities for some time. However, I've been unable to renew. It's been very frustrating. Janina Anders Holmberg writes: Hi! Is the fusion free of charge or do I have to pay for it? Bless. /A 11 feb. 2024 kl. 15:57 skrev 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries : I get this when I try to install windows 11. Check your Startup Disk in the virtual machine settings. If you have not installed an operating system yet, you can choose an installation disc or disc image in the CD/DVD settings and restart the virtual machine. I???m on an Intel mac. On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Vocr is so hard to use. I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver? /A 11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford : Well, I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to get through setup and then add VMWare tools. Only then did I get Narrator sound. I???m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup sound after going through the first steps of OS install where you enter a product key and such. But I didn???t have Narrator speech. Kelly On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28???PM, Kelly Ford wrote: Hi, For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. VMware virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I???m not getting any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see. On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50???AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Hi! Vocr is very very tedious. So I rather not use any virtual machine. I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto or windows. Bless. /A 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries : How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it very tedious and definitely would prefer to avoid that. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/53ECE646-4CE0-404E-869C-70CF382200A7%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/3E421955-BC0E-4561-BBC7-6BCDAF63F0A9%40pipkrokodil.se. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsu
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
There's an available license that's free of charge. It's available to students and to other categories they name. I have had one based on my W3C activities for some time. However, I've been unable to renew. It's been very frustrating. Janina Anders Holmberg writes: > Hi! > Is the fusion free of charge or do I have to pay for it? > Bless. > /A > > > 11 feb. 2024 kl. 15:57 skrev 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries > > : > > > > I get this when I try to install windows 11. > > Check your Startup Disk in the virtual machine settings. If you have not > > installed an operating system yet, you can choose an installation disc or > > disc image in the CD/DVD settings and restart the virtual machine. > > I???m on an Intel mac. > > On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > >> > >> Hi! > >> Vocr is so hard to use. > >> I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver? > >> /A > >> > >>> 11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford : > >>> > >>> Well, > >>> > >>> I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to get > >>> through setup and then add VMWare tools. Only then did I get Narrator > >>> sound. > >>> > >>> I???m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup sound > >>> after going through the first steps of OS install where you enter a > >>> product key and such. But I didn???t have Narrator speech. > >>> > >>> Kelly > >>> > >>> > On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28???PM, Kelly Ford wrote: > > Hi, > > For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. > VMware virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I???m > not getting any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install > > I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see. > > > > > On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50???AM, Anders Holmberg > > wrote: > > > > Hi! > > Hi! > > Vocr is very very tedious. > > So I rather not use any virtual machine. > > I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto > > or windows. > > Bless. > > /A > >> 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries > >> : > >> > >> How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it > >> very tedious and definitely would prefer to avoid that. > >> > >> -- > >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac > >> Visionaries list. > >> > >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > >> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > >> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list > >> itself. > >> > >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > >> mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach > >> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >> > >> The archives for this list can be searched at: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > >> --- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/53ECE646-4CE0-404E-869C-70CF382200A7%40me.com. > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > > Visionaries list. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list > > itself. > > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara > > at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/3E421955-BC0E-4561-BBC7-6BCDAF63F0A9%40pipkrokodil.se. > > >>> > >>> -- > >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac > >>> Visionaries list. > >>> > >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > >>> ow
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Fusion is a paid product, but you can use Player for free if that meets your needs. It doesn't do certain things like snapshots IIRC, but you can run a Windows VM. Concerning the configuration, I'd customise the VM for the first time immediately after creating it, before even starting it. Then you can make sure you have everything correct, including disk drive and boot order. Windows won't need to be reconfigured after setup, just install the VMWare Tools. Cheers, Sabahattin -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C29ADE32-8237-48A8-B4E6-110263AC41F6%40me.com.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Hi! Is the fusion free of charge or do I have to pay for it? Bless. /A > 11 feb. 2024 kl. 15:57 skrev 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries > : > > I get this when I try to install windows 11. > Check your Startup Disk in the virtual machine settings. If you have not > installed an operating system yet, you can choose an installation disc or > disc image in the CD/DVD settings and restart the virtual machine. > I’m on an Intel mac. > On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: >> >> Hi! >> Vocr is so hard to use. >> I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver? >> /A >> >>> 11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford : >>> >>> Well, >>> >>> I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to get >>> through setup and then add VMWare tools. Only then did I get Narrator >>> sound. >>> >>> I’m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup sound after >>> going through the first steps of OS install where you enter a product key >>> and such. But I didn’t have Narrator speech. >>> >>> Kelly >>> >>> On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28 PM, Kelly Ford wrote: Hi, For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. VMware virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I’m not getting any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see. > On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > Hi! > Vocr is very very tedious. > So I rather not use any virtual machine. > I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto or > windows. > Bless. > /A >> 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries >> : >> >> How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it very >> tedious and definitely would prefer to avoid that. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/53ECE646-4CE0-404E-869C-70CF382200A7%40me.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/3E421955-BC0E-4561-BBC7-6BCDAF63F0A9%40pipkrokodil.se. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop re
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
I get this when I try to install windows 11. Check your Startup Disk in the virtual machine settings. If you have not installed an operating system yet, you can choose an installation disc or disc image in the CD/DVD settings and restart the virtual machine. I’m on an Intel mac. On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > Vocr is so hard to use. > I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver? > /A > >> 11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford : >> >> Well, >> >> I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to get through >> setup and then add VMWare tools. Only then did I get Narrator sound. >> >> I’m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup sound after >> going through the first steps of OS install where you enter a product key >> and such. But I didn’t have Narrator speech. >> >> Kelly >> >> >>> On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28 PM, Kelly Ford wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. >>> VMware virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I’m not >>> getting any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install >>> >>> I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see. >>> >>> >>> On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Hi! Vocr is very very tedious. So I rather not use any virtual machine. I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto or windows. Bless. /A > 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries > : > > How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it very > tedious and definitely would prefer to avoid that. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/53ECE646-4CE0-404E-869C-70CF382200A7%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/3E421955-BC0E-4561-BBC7-6BCDAF63F0A9%40pipkrokodil.se. >>> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B39F207E-B59E-4020-B46E-A530AD200C90%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following informatio
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Hi! Vocr is so hard to use. I have tried that but was wondering should I turn off VoiceOver? /A > 11 feb. 2024 kl. 00:57 skrev Kelly Ford : > > Well, > > I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to get through > setup and then add VMWare tools. Only then did I get Narrator sound. > > I’m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup sound after > going through the first steps of OS install where you enter a product key and > such. But I didn’t have Narrator speech. > > Kelly > > >> On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28 PM, Kelly Ford wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. >> VMware virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I’m not >> getting any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install >> >> I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see. >> >> >> >>> On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> Hi! >>> Vocr is very very tedious. >>> So I rather not use any virtual machine. >>> I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto or >>> windows. >>> Bless. >>> /A 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries : How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it very tedious and definitely would prefer to avoid that. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/53ECE646-4CE0-404E-869C-70CF382200A7%40me.com. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/3E421955-BC0E-4561-BBC7-6BCDAF63F0A9%40pipkrokodil.se. >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B39F207E-B59E-4020-B46E-A530AD200C90%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Thanks for the report. I wonder why Narrator is now broken during setup? Do you suppose it applies to physical installs as well? Anyone know, tried it? Anyway, I too am now running the beta and can confirm that it works for my Linux VM, in which I now have Braille through BRLTTY and, at least, PC Speaker support. Thank goodness. It was getting rather tortured, just using Terminal. But I’ve learned my lesson from this little episode, and that is that we must be prepared to jump out of an aeroplane at 30,000 feet, when times get desperate. Or something—I’m still working out what my options are, but keeping this BootCamp Windows partition seems prudent, as does getting to grips with UTM as a backup. I’d been meaning to renew this VM, anyway—it’s way out of date now. Cheers, Sabahattin -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/536F134A-CEE4-42AC-843D-7D9DFC611415%40me.com.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Well, I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to get through setup and then add VMWare tools. Only then did I get Narrator sound. I’m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup sound after going through the first steps of OS install where you enter a product key and such. But I didn’t have Narrator speech. Kelly > On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28 PM, Kelly Ford wrote: > > Hi, > > For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. > VMware virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I’m not > getting any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install > > I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see. > > > >> On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: >> >> Hi! >> Hi! >> Vocr is very very tedious. >> So I rather not use any virtual machine. >> I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto or >> windows. >> Bless. >> /A >>> 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries >>> : >>> >>> How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it very >>> tedious and definitely would prefer to avoid that. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/53ECE646-4CE0-404E-869C-70CF382200A7%40me.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/3E421955-BC0E-4561-BBC7-6BCDAF63F0A9%40pipkrokodil.se. > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B39F207E-B59E-4020-B46E-A530AD200C90%40gmail.com.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Hi, For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. VMware virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I’m not getting any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see. > On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > Hi! > Vocr is very very tedious. > So I rather not use any virtual machine. > I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto or > windows. > Bless. > /A >> 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries >> : >> >> How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it very >> tedious and definitely would prefer to avoid that. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/53ECE646-4CE0-404E-869C-70CF382200A7%40me.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/3E421955-BC0E-4561-BBC7-6BCDAF63F0A9%40pipkrokodil.se. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FBC38093-68CE-4ED6-BCCA-B2D82BC1FFCE%40gmail.com.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Hi! Hi! Vocr is very very tedious. So I rather not use any virtual machine. I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto or windows. Bless. /A > 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries > : > > How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it very > tedious and definitely would prefer to avoid that. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/53ECE646-4CE0-404E-869C-70CF382200A7%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/3E421955-BC0E-4561-BBC7-6BCDAF63F0A9%40pipkrokodil.se.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
This bug affected both Intel and Apple Silicon Macs in the same way. Fusion does indeed work on Apple Silicon, when not affected by this bug. The latest Sonoma has fixed it; when I upgrade to the next minor point release, I'll see if the fix is in there, but if not then it's the next major point release that will have it, hopefully not too long. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/AAEA13BB-484B-44C6-9610-C1001FFD547C%40me.com.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
My Mac is Intel and VMware broke when I upgraded from Ventura to Sonoma. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 2/8/2024 3:21 PM, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi, Sorry to come in with no offer of help but a rather basic question on thids topic. Am I right in thinking from the discussion here that people are/have been able to use Vmware Fusion on silicon-based Macs? And that that had been working fine until Sonoma came along? The reason I ask is because I used to use Fusion on an older, intel-based Macbook but thought when I bought a newer (2021) Macbook that the silicon-based Macs couldn't be used with Fusion. I gather from this discussion and just reading at https://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2023/02/microsoft-now-officially-supports-windows-on-mac-computers-with-apple-silicon.html that that changed? But now Fusion isn't working with Sonoma. Is that an accurate summary of the situation? Thanks, Catherine On 2/8/24, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries wrote: How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it very tedious and definitely would prefer to avoid that. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/53ECE646-4CE0-404E-869C-70CF382200A7%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/f9146d79-2903-4b6c-88d2-6276ac5447b7%40icloud.com.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Hi, Sorry to come in with no offer of help but a rather basic question on thids topic. Am I right in thinking from the discussion here that people are/have been able to use Vmware Fusion on silicon-based Macs? And that that had been working fine until Sonoma came along? The reason I ask is because I used to use Fusion on an older, intel-based Macbook but thought when I bought a newer (2021) Macbook that the silicon-based Macs couldn't be used with Fusion. I gather from this discussion and just reading at https://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2023/02/microsoft-now-officially-supports-windows-on-mac-computers-with-apple-silicon.html that that changed? But now Fusion isn't working with Sonoma. Is that an accurate summary of the situation? Thanks, Catherine On 2/8/24, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries wrote: > How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it very > tedious and definitely would prefer to avoid that. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/53ECE646-4CE0-404E-869C-70CF382200A7%40me.com. > -- LinkedIn: http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/catherine-turner/8/9a6/a0/ -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CABJRpGsrkfx1VDjjj_tLc%3DhNmuTypJEwZEdY10r5KHn3XtN%3DDA%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Hi just for what is is worth, I amusing Parallels v 19.1 on a m2 Mac running fedora 38, and windows 11 Arm 64. In Windows I am using Jaws 2024, J-Say v22.8 and Dragon 15 pro standalone. The spring version of NVDA for that same Arm version of Microsoft Windows 11. In Fedora I am using Orca in the gnome. That is my setup and so fare it is working for me. HTH Maurice Mines > On Feb 8, 2024, at 00:46, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Yes, I looked in detail at LiMa. No doubt it has some use cases even for pure > VM without containers, but it's not really laser-focussed on that; it doesn't > give that much control over the virtualization layer, and it adds a lot of > overhead and limited OS selection to boot. UTM wouldn't be my first choice > either, but it's a machine emulator, even when it's using Apple's frameworks, > and gives you all the control you'd need. It is primarily because it's a GUI > app from the Mac App Store that enables it to utilise certain privileges > without escalation, like network bridging, but that's not ideal for > unattended virtual machines and there's no support for USB hot-plugging in > that scenario. My ideal would be a CLI wrapper around the frameworks, but > nobody has written one that's feature-complete and signed by Apple for using > all the entitlements. So we're back to Fusion for an all-in-one solution. > > Now for something completely different. What's your Linux environment like? > What is your preferred desktop? > > Cheers, > Sabahattin > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/07177105-55E3-435F-A78B-843C29B91C42%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/48C2A31E-0A4B-472D-BB05-3A3D9DEA7238%40gmail.com.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
I do have 13.5 stashed away. Problem I had before was trying to get a new free license for that version. Maybe I will try again if in fact the beta fixed the bug. Thanks for the offer! Feeling more hopeful now.This has been a long 5 months since Sonoma was released. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 2/7/2024 3:17 PM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries wrote: The link was the one in my earlier email; here it is again: https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Fusion-Discussions/VMs-shut-down-immediately-after-start-in-Fusion-Player-13-5-on/td-p/2992545 The really great news is that Apple have (surprise, surprise) just now updated Sonoma beta and, pending confirmation from another tester, fixed the issue. Will miracles never cease? I have the 13.5.0 disk image if you have a licence to run that. I dunno if earlier versions work, but 13.5 is definitely recommended for Sonoma. Let me know if you need this, I'll MailDrop it to you. Cheers, Sabahattin -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/823e124c-87dc-497b-bd99-eff45d7cc9f9%40icloud.com.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Missed that link but its now bookmarked. Cannot wait, what, 2-3 weeks? Fingers crossed! From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 2/7/2024 3:17 PM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries wrote: The link was the one in my earlier email; here it is again: https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Fusion-Discussions/VMs-shut-down-immediately-after-start-in-Fusion-Player-13-5-on/td-p/2992545 The really great news is that Apple have (surprise, surprise) just now updated Sonoma beta and, pending confirmation from another tester, fixed the issue. Will miracles never cease? I have the 13.5.0 disk image if you have a licence to run that. I dunno if earlier versions work, but 13.5 is definitely recommended for Sonoma. Let me know if you need this, I'll MailDrop it to you. Cheers, Sabahattin -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/71e8e567-0e7c-4fc1-8499-c4d482a222ed%40icloud.com.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
On 27/1/24 20:45, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: I was happy to pay $10 9less one penny) for an accessible vm. Clearly, I'm hoping this works out! I'll report when I've successfully started running Arch in an UTM vm, or when I give up on trying. This project, based on Qemu, received an endorsement in a podcast that I heard today: https://github.com/lima-vm/lima I have no information about its accessibility. It runs Linux in a virtual machine, supporting command line environments now, desktops still to come. My preference is to run Linux directly on the hardware, but other people have different needs. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/3f557fad-cc51-47df-9307-dc50add0b0fc%40jasonjgw.net.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
The link was the one in my earlier email; here it is again: https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Fusion-Discussions/VMs-shut-down-immediately-after-start-in-Fusion-Player-13-5-on/td-p/2992545 The really great news is that Apple have (surprise, surprise) just now updated Sonoma beta and, pending confirmation from another tester, fixed the issue. Will miracles never cease? I have the 13.5.0 disk image if you have a licence to run that. I dunno if earlier versions work, but 13.5 is definitely recommended for Sonoma. Let me know if you need this, I'll MailDrop it to you. Cheers, Sabahattin -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/DE638FC9-E736-4660-9626-1057D2921B8F%40me.com.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Meant to ask earlier, if in fact one can only run version 13 of VMware under Sonoma. Again, thanks. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 2/7/2024 10:53 AM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries wrote: I don't hold out much hope to be honest, but I'll let you know if the beta fixes it, otherwise I'm looking at more time booted into Windows and using UTM for Linux. Meanwhile, if you're affected and you care, pester Apple Accessibility about it—it may not be their product, but it's certainly their bug, and VMWare have confirmed it. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/d22bef0a-d33d-4a1f-8ea4-c8ea272a6564%40icloud.com.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Ok can you find an official link to that from VMware? Then I could forward that to Apple Accessibility. I think doing that would be more effective. If I do not need to go to version 13 of VMware, it would be easier for me. I have been having trouble accessing anything on their site including captchas. Its all been a headache but I am not up to changing VM software right now. Thanks. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 2/7/2024 10:53 AM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries wrote: I don't hold out much hope to be honest, but I'll let you know if the beta fixes it, otherwise I'm looking at more time booted into Windows and using UTM for Linux. Meanwhile, if you're affected and you care, pester Apple Accessibility about it—it may not be their product, but it's certainly their bug, and VMWare have confirmed it. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/facdcc5e-bc6c-49da-8858-be01074f64ff%40icloud.com.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
I don't hold out much hope to be honest, but I'll let you know if the beta fixes it, otherwise I'm looking at more time booted into Windows and using UTM for Linux. Meanwhile, if you're affected and you care, pester Apple Accessibility about it—it may not be their product, but it's certainly their bug, and VMWare have confirmed it. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F855FEB2-7890-4EB2-AAD7-CC50F434C4D5%40me.com.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
I have not. Last I heard, in order to use VMware under Sonoma, one had to update VMware version 12 to version 13. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 2/7/2024 10:04 AM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries wrote: So there’s activity on the VMWare Communities thread discussing this: https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Fusion-Discussions/VMs-shut-down-immediately-after-start-in-Fusion-Player-13-5-on/td-p/2992545 I have yet to try the latest Sonoma beta to see if this is fixed, as suggested. Anyone else tried it yet? I probably will eventually, if not. Cheers, Sabahattin -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/3f042a8d-813c-4369-8c53-735a452c6c0c%40icloud.com.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
So there’s activity on the VMWare Communities thread discussing this: https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Fusion-Discussions/VMs-shut-down-immediately-after-start-in-Fusion-Player-13-5-on/td-p/2992545 I have yet to try the latest Sonoma beta to see if this is fixed, as suggested. Anyone else tried it yet? I probably will eventually, if not. Cheers, Sabahattin -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8F5CF842-C589-46CA-9714-71E70A8EE538%40me.com.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
I'm on an M2 Max Pro laptop. Findings so far: May need sighted assistance if using the pre-built image to get the screen reader going in the VM. Alternatively, I should be able to install from the installation ISO, I should be able to arrow down once within the first 15 seconds of booting the ISO to enable Speakup during installation. This is what I'm trying to do so far without success so far. Terje Str?mberg writes: > Are you using one of te m1, m2, m3 mac models ? Or an Intel mac ? > Take care > > > > tir. 26. des. 2023 kl. 18:18 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries < > macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>: > > > If that is true, then I will stop using Windows. It runs fine on > > Monterey so will keep that for backup. > > > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > > -Helen Keller > > My e-Mail: > > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > > > On 12/26/2023 8:31 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: > > > Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the > > > free license. > > > > > > It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside > > > from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that. > > > > > > Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay > > > much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the > > > accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not > > > in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U. > > > > > > So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn > > > and mend their ways? > > > > > > Argh! > > > > > > Janina > > > > > > 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes: > > >> Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a > > new > > >> license key (free) for Player. > > >> > > >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... > > >> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > > >> -Helen Keller > > >> My e-Mail: > > >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > >> > > >> On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: > > >>> You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma. > > >>> > > >>> I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's > > >>> another issue. > > >>> > > >>> hth > > >>> Janina > > >>> > > >>> Anders Holmberg writes: > > Hi! > > DOes it even work on an m1 Mac? > > Or do you still have the intel? > > /A > > > > > 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries < > > macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > Hello all, > > > Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the > > Mac? This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks. > > > > > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > > > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > > > -Helen Keller > > > My e-Mail: > > > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > > > > > -- > > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > > Visionaries list. > > > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this > > list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > > mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach > > Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > > > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > > send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/479ece1b-707b-4e06-8e02-ee3f3da537ab%40icloud.com > > . > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > > Visionaries list. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > > mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach > > Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > > send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > >
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Are you using one of te m1, m2, m3 mac models ? Or an Intel mac ? Take care tir. 26. des. 2023 kl. 18:18 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries < macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>: > If that is true, then I will stop using Windows. It runs fine on > Monterey so will keep that for backup. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > -Helen Keller > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 12/26/2023 8:31 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: > > Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the > > free license. > > > > It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside > > from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that. > > > > Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay > > much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the > > accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not > > in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U. > > > > So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn > > and mend their ways? > > > > Argh! > > > > Janina > > > > 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes: > >> Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a > new > >> license key (free) for Player. > >> > >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... > >> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > >> -Helen Keller > >> My e-Mail: > >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >> > >> On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: > >>> You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma. > >>> > >>> I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's > >>> another issue. > >>> > >>> hth > >>> Janina > >>> > >>> Anders Holmberg writes: > Hi! > DOes it even work on an m1 Mac? > Or do you still have the intel? > /A > > > 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries < > macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>: > > > > Hello all, > > Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the > Mac? This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks. > > > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > > -Helen Keller > > My e-Mail: > > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this > list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach > Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/479ece1b-707b-4e06-8e02-ee3f3da537ab%40icloud.com > . > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach > Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/863ABCE4-AEF0-448C-BD50-1A21CEF477F2%40pipkrokodil.se > . > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > >> > >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >> > >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Thanks, Matt! I'm downloading their pre-built Arch Linux image as I write this. I was happy to pay $10 9less one penny) for an accessible vm. Clearly, I'm hoping this works out! I'll report when I've successfully started running Arch in an UTM vm, or when I give up on trying. Best, Janina 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries writes: > Hi. > you can download UTM from the app store for $9 to support the developers, > but you don???t have to. > you can get it for free from this link. > https://mac.getutm.app > > > On Jan 3, 2024, at 10:27 AM, matthew dyer > > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I have not tried UTM, but looked at it in the App Store. Is it accessible? > > How does this work? Thanks. > > > > Matthew > > > > > > > >> On Jan 2, 2024, at 6:08???PM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries > >> wrote: > >> > >> This whole situation makes me sad. Of course it's less convenient to carry > >> multiple machines around, and there's basically no real choice to > >> dual-boot, so our VM tools have to work. When they're snatched away from > >> us by indifference to critical accessibility bugs, we suffer, not only > >> lost opportunity but arguably the entire value proposition of these > >> expensive machines, which need to run multiple operating systems to > >> compensate for the inadequacy of any single operating system. Sigh. > >> > >> I'm looking at the possible options, but realistically if you need to use > >> Braille in your guest it's Parallels or UTM. You have various options if > >> you only need textmode access as such, like vmctl/vmcli or qemu, but that > >> gets us back to the problem of macOS Terminal. Certainly it can't hurt you > >> to learn tdsr, however it's not a substitute to Terminal or the Linux > >> screen readers for speech and braille, but an adjunct. > >> > >> I hope vmWare is fixed soon, as I still find it to be the best option for > >> me. Maybe one day Apple's native virtualization.framework will support USB > >> passthrough and Ethernet bridging from a graphical and command line > >> utility, but until then your best choice is UTM or directly invoking qemu. > >> Good luck whatever you go with. > >> > >> -- > >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac > >> Visionaries list. > >> > >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >> > >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > >> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >> > >> The archives for this list can be searched at: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > >> --- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/E9F35A4B-4C75-44A4-874D-D58A81E6FF67%40me.com. > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > > Visionaries list. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/DA1A1CFC-CF99-4041-9497-98F95DD987EF%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gr
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Hi. you can download UTM from the app store for $9 to support the developers, but you don’t have to. you can get it for free from this link. https://mac.getutm.app > On Jan 3, 2024, at 10:27 AM, matthew dyer > wrote: > > Hi, > > I have not tried UTM, but looked at it in the App Store. Is it accessible? > How does this work? Thanks. > > Matthew > > > >> On Jan 2, 2024, at 6:08 PM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> This whole situation makes me sad. Of course it's less convenient to carry >> multiple machines around, and there's basically no real choice to dual-boot, >> so our VM tools have to work. When they're snatched away from us by >> indifference to critical accessibility bugs, we suffer, not only lost >> opportunity but arguably the entire value proposition of these expensive >> machines, which need to run multiple operating systems to compensate for the >> inadequacy of any single operating system. Sigh. >> >> I'm looking at the possible options, but realistically if you need to use >> Braille in your guest it's Parallels or UTM. You have various options if you >> only need textmode access as such, like vmctl/vmcli or qemu, but that gets >> us back to the problem of macOS Terminal. Certainly it can't hurt you to >> learn tdsr, however it's not a substitute to Terminal or the Linux screen >> readers for speech and braille, but an adjunct. >> >> I hope vmWare is fixed soon, as I still find it to be the best option for >> me. Maybe one day Apple's native virtualization.framework will support USB >> passthrough and Ethernet bridging from a graphical and command line utility, >> but until then your best choice is UTM or directly invoking qemu. Good luck >> whatever you go with. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/E9F35A4B-4C75-44A4-874D-D58A81E6FF67%40me.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/DA1A1CFC-CF99-4041-9497-98F95DD987EF%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/66752520-7B42-452A-B3E4-B94B0E4D4926%40icloud.com.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
UTM is a graphical frontend to qemu. It's accessible, absolutely, once you have a feel for it—certainly more than Parallels which needs you to use VOCR just to get set up. Definitely give it a try and see if it meets your needs. The Spice guest tools (or qemu agent on other platforms) go into your guest VMs to have functionality that VMware Tools gives. Getting Windows initially set up is a wee bit tricky because no network, but that's easily overcome. I'm not sure how you'd find that but it's really no big deal, you open a command prompt and type a command, the machine reboots, and you go through setup without signing in to Microsoft. I've also never tried importing an existing VM, so I can't tell you how well that will go. Good luck. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/07AB1AB8-122A-41D4-B530-DB5110A0A9D6%40me.com.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Hi, I have not tried UTM, but looked at it in the App Store. Is it accessible? How does this work? Thanks. Matthew > On Jan 2, 2024, at 6:08 PM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > This whole situation makes me sad. Of course it's less convenient to carry > multiple machines around, and there's basically no real choice to dual-boot, > so our VM tools have to work. When they're snatched away from us by > indifference to critical accessibility bugs, we suffer, not only lost > opportunity but arguably the entire value proposition of these expensive > machines, which need to run multiple operating systems to compensate for the > inadequacy of any single operating system. Sigh. > > I'm looking at the possible options, but realistically if you need to use > Braille in your guest it's Parallels or UTM. You have various options if you > only need textmode access as such, like vmctl/vmcli or qemu, but that gets us > back to the problem of macOS Terminal. Certainly it can't hurt you to learn > tdsr, however it's not a substitute to Terminal or the Linux screen readers > for speech and braille, but an adjunct. > > I hope vmWare is fixed soon, as I still find it to be the best option for me. > Maybe one day Apple's native virtualization.framework will support USB > passthrough and Ethernet bridging from a graphical and command line utility, > but until then your best choice is UTM or directly invoking qemu. Good luck > whatever you go with. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/E9F35A4B-4C75-44A4-874D-D58A81E6FF67%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/DA1A1CFC-CF99-4041-9497-98F95DD987EF%40gmail.com.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Yeah, it's working now. It wasn't a few years ago when I installed on my 2013 era Macbook Air. ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com writes: > Hi, > > To get arch working just do the following at bootup. When the boot menu pops > up, down arrow once and press enter. When arch starts speaking, just type > archinstall and follow the prompts and you should be good. HTH. > > Matthew > > > > Matthew Dyer > Sent from outlook365 > Follow me on mastodon at mdyer1@tweesecake.social > > -Original Message- > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > Sent: Monday, January 1, 2024 3:15 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: VMware Fusion/Player > > If I can get the Arch Linux installer to give me an accessible > installation, I'll go with Arch. > > When I succeded with VMware on my 2013 era Macbook Air, I was unable to > get the Arch installer to talk, so went with Debian. That worked > wonderfully as long as the Air was my traveling laptop. > > I've never used Asahi, but Speakup will work with any Linux. The issue > with Speakup is how hard you have to work to get Speakup to work. On > Arch and Debian it comes with the Linux kernel. On Fedora it does not, > so one would have to recompile the kernel. I'm not up to speed on how > one compiles kernels these days, and I don't want to spend my life > compiling them just to run Fedora, for instance. > > At the moment I'm stuck licensing VMware 13. I can get as far as > inputting the license key. For some stupid reason the Fusion download > isn't giving me the free license, even though I clearly qualify for it > and it's the license I had on my Air. That little mess remains > untangled, and it's where I've been stuck for almost a year. > > Happy New Year, > Janina > > Anders Holmberg writes: > > Hi! > > Is this Debian or Arch you want to make running on the M2? > > My Mac mini is a m1 but from what I know now there is only one linux that > > runs on Linux. > > Linux called Asahi but I guess you know more on Linux than I do. > > Not sure if you can run this with speakup. > > Bless. > > /A > > > > > 31 dec. 2023 kl. 04:12 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > > > : > > > > > > Ah, bless you Anders! I suspect running anything virtualized on your > > > Macbook Air, or on mine would be a miracle on its own anymore. I did > > > have it working on my Air for quite a few years, though. The trick now > > > is to get it working on my M2! That's the machine I expect to travel > > > with for the forseeable future. > > > > > > Janina > > > > > > Anders Holmberg writes: > > >> Hi! > > >> Ok,so you can use parallels for other operating systems than Windows. > > >> I have a MacBook Air from 2015 I never use but it may come out handy for > > >> the linux thing. > > >> I could give it to you if you like but then you need to come to Sweden > > >> or I need to go where you live. > > >> Bless. > > >> /A > > >> > > >>> 29 dec. 2023 kl. 19:16 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > > >>> : > > >>> > > >>> Let's say that I stumble along with the Mac Terminal whilst on the road > > >>> with my Macbook. For me it's horribly clunky to do much of anything > > >>> command line through that app, but it's not impossible in most > > >>> situations. > > >>> > > >>> This thread suggests to me that I should take another look at Parallels, > > >>> though. I don't even need the Linux desktop, just the command line shell > > >>> environment. This was working very well indeed on my old Mac Air. My > > >>> problems started when I got my M2. > > >>> > > >>> Janina > > >>> > > >>> Anders Holmberg writes: > > >>>> Hi! > > >>>> Yes of corse. > > >>>> I do understand that. > > >>>> But do things work for you now? > > >>>> Bless. > > >>>> /A > > >>>> > > >>>>> 29 dec. 2023 kl. 03:14 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > > >>>>> : > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Not me. Not enough room in my suitcase, which is when I need the Mac > > >>>>> hosted Linux. I've a perfectly good native Linu
RE: VMware Fusion/Player
Hi, To get arch working just do the following at bootup. When the boot menu pops up, down arrow once and press enter. When arch starts speaking, just type archinstall and follow the prompts and you should be good. HTH. Matthew Matthew Dyer Sent from outlook365 Follow me on mastodon at mdyer1@tweesecake.social -Original Message- From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, January 1, 2024 3:15 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VMware Fusion/Player If I can get the Arch Linux installer to give me an accessible installation, I'll go with Arch. When I succeded with VMware on my 2013 era Macbook Air, I was unable to get the Arch installer to talk, so went with Debian. That worked wonderfully as long as the Air was my traveling laptop. I've never used Asahi, but Speakup will work with any Linux. The issue with Speakup is how hard you have to work to get Speakup to work. On Arch and Debian it comes with the Linux kernel. On Fedora it does not, so one would have to recompile the kernel. I'm not up to speed on how one compiles kernels these days, and I don't want to spend my life compiling them just to run Fedora, for instance. At the moment I'm stuck licensing VMware 13. I can get as far as inputting the license key. For some stupid reason the Fusion download isn't giving me the free license, even though I clearly qualify for it and it's the license I had on my Air. That little mess remains untangled, and it's where I've been stuck for almost a year. Happy New Year, Janina Anders Holmberg writes: > Hi! > Is this Debian or Arch you want to make running on the M2? > My Mac mini is a m1 but from what I know now there is only one linux that > runs on Linux. > Linux called Asahi but I guess you know more on Linux than I do. > Not sure if you can run this with speakup. > Bless. > /A > > > 31 dec. 2023 kl. 04:12 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > > : > > > > Ah, bless you Anders! I suspect running anything virtualized on your > > Macbook Air, or on mine would be a miracle on its own anymore. I did > > have it working on my Air for quite a few years, though. The trick now > > is to get it working on my M2! That's the machine I expect to travel > > with for the forseeable future. > > > > Janina > > > > Anders Holmberg writes: > >> Hi! > >> Ok,so you can use parallels for other operating systems than Windows. > >> I have a MacBook Air from 2015 I never use but it may come out handy for > >> the linux thing. > >> I could give it to you if you like but then you need to come to Sweden or > >> I need to go where you live. > >> Bless. > >> /A > >> > >>> 29 dec. 2023 kl. 19:16 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > >>> : > >>> > >>> Let's say that I stumble along with the Mac Terminal whilst on the road > >>> with my Macbook. For me it's horribly clunky to do much of anything > >>> command line through that app, but it's not impossible in most > >>> situations. > >>> > >>> This thread suggests to me that I should take another look at Parallels, > >>> though. I don't even need the Linux desktop, just the command line shell > >>> environment. This was working very well indeed on my old Mac Air. My > >>> problems started when I got my M2. > >>> > >>> Janina > >>> > >>> Anders Holmberg writes: > >>>> Hi! > >>>> Yes of corse. > >>>> I do understand that. > >>>> But do things work for you now? > >>>> Bless. > >>>> /A > >>>> > >>>>> 29 dec. 2023 kl. 03:14 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > >>>>> : > >>>>> > >>>>> Not me. Not enough room in my suitcase, which is when I need the Mac > >>>>> hosted Linux. I've a perfectly good native Linux in my office. I want > >>>>> the Linux VM for traveling. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Anders Holmberg writes: > >>>>>> Hi! > >>>>>> I???d rather use an old laptop for such things. > >>>>>> Even for linux. > >>>>>> /A > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 26 Dec 2023, at 17:31, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Very interesting. Thanks for s
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Thanks, Jonathan. I would be happy to sharpen my Terminal skills. I have no doubt but what they could be improved regardless of whether Linux is a more compelling cli environment or not. I would appreciate your reposting. With appreciation, Janina Jonathan Cohn writes: > I posted recently about screen reader for terminal windows on the Mac. Would > it be helpful for me to re-find that posting? > > Best wishes, > > Jonathan Cohn > > > > > On Dec 28, 2023, at 9:14 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > > wrote: > > > > Not me. Not enough room in my suitcase, which is when I need the Mac > > hosted Linux. I've a perfectly good native Linux in my office. I want > > the Linux VM for traveling. > > > > > > Anders Holmberg writes: > >> Hi! > >> I???d rather use an old laptop for such things. > >> Even for linux. > >> /A > >> > >>> On 26 Dec 2023, at 17:31, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the > >>> free license. > >>> > >>> It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside > >>> from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that. > >>> > >>> Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay > >>> much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the > >>> accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not > >>> in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U. > >>> > >>> So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn > >>> and mend their ways? > >>> > >>> Argh! > >>> > >>> Janina > >>> > >>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes: > Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new > license key (free) for Player. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > -Helen Keller > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: > > You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma. > > > > I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's > > another issue. > > > > hth > > Janina > > > > Anders Holmberg writes: > >> Hi! > >> DOes it even work on an m1 Mac? > >> Or do you still have the intel? > >> /A > >> > >>> 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > >>> : > >>> > >>> Hello all, > >>> Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? > >>> This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks. > >>> > >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... > >>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > >>> -Helen Keller > >>> My e-Mail: > >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >>> > >>> -- > >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac > >>> Visionaries list. > >>> > >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > >>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > >>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list > >>> itself. > >>> > >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > >>> mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach > >>> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >>> > >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > >>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> To view this discussion on the web visit > >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/479ece1b-707b-4e06-8e02-ee3f3da537ab%40icloud.com. > >> > >> -- > >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac > >> Visionaries list. > >> > >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > >> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > >> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list > >> itself. > >> > >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > >> mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach > >> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >> > >> The archives for this list can be searched at: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > >> --- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
I posted recently about screen reader for terminal windows on the Mac. Would it be helpful for me to re-find that posting? Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Dec 28, 2023, at 9:14 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Not me. Not enough room in my suitcase, which is when I need the Mac > hosted Linux. I've a perfectly good native Linux in my office. I want > the Linux VM for traveling. > > > Anders Holmberg writes: >> Hi! >> I???d rather use an old laptop for such things. >> Even for linux. >> /A >> >>> On 26 Dec 2023, at 17:31, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the >>> free license. >>> >>> It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside >>> from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that. >>> >>> Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay >>> much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the >>> accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not >>> in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U. >>> >>> So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn >>> and mend their ways? >>> >>> Argh! >>> >>> Janina >>> >>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes: Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new license key (free) for Player. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: > You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma. > > I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's > another issue. > > hth > Janina > > Anders Holmberg writes: >> Hi! >> DOes it even work on an m1 Mac? >> Or do you still have the intel? >> /A >> >>> 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>> : >>> >>> Hello all, >>> Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? >>> This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." >>> -Helen Keller >>> My e-Mail: >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>> itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara >>> at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/479ece1b-707b-4e06-8e02-ee3f3da537ab%40icloud.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/863ABCE4-AEF0-448C-BD50-1A21CEF477F2%40pipkrokodil.se. > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the ow
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
If I can get the Arch Linux installer to give me an accessible installation, I'll go with Arch. When I succeded with VMware on my 2013 era Macbook Air, I was unable to get the Arch installer to talk, so went with Debian. That worked wonderfully as long as the Air was my traveling laptop. I've never used Asahi, but Speakup will work with any Linux. The issue with Speakup is how hard you have to work to get Speakup to work. On Arch and Debian it comes with the Linux kernel. On Fedora it does not, so one would have to recompile the kernel. I'm not up to speed on how one compiles kernels these days, and I don't want to spend my life compiling them just to run Fedora, for instance. At the moment I'm stuck licensing VMware 13. I can get as far as inputting the license key. For some stupid reason the Fusion download isn't giving me the free license, even though I clearly qualify for it and it's the license I had on my Air. That little mess remains untangled, and it's where I've been stuck for almost a year. Happy New Year, Janina Anders Holmberg writes: > Hi! > Is this Debian or Arch you want to make running on the M2? > My Mac mini is a m1 but from what I know now there is only one linux that > runs on Linux. > Linux called Asahi but I guess you know more on Linux than I do. > Not sure if you can run this with speakup. > Bless. > /A > > > 31 dec. 2023 kl. 04:12 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > > : > > > > Ah, bless you Anders! I suspect running anything virtualized on your > > Macbook Air, or on mine would be a miracle on its own anymore. I did > > have it working on my Air for quite a few years, though. The trick now > > is to get it working on my M2! That's the machine I expect to travel > > with for the forseeable future. > > > > Janina > > > > Anders Holmberg writes: > >> Hi! > >> Ok,so you can use parallels for other operating systems than Windows. > >> I have a MacBook Air from 2015 I never use but it may come out handy for > >> the linux thing. > >> I could give it to you if you like but then you need to come to Sweden or > >> I need to go where you live. > >> Bless. > >> /A > >> > >>> 29 dec. 2023 kl. 19:16 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > >>> : > >>> > >>> Let's say that I stumble along with the Mac Terminal whilst on the road > >>> with my Macbook. For me it's horribly clunky to do much of anything > >>> command line through that app, but it's not impossible in most > >>> situations. > >>> > >>> This thread suggests to me that I should take another look at Parallels, > >>> though. I don't even need the Linux desktop, just the command line shell > >>> environment. This was working very well indeed on my old Mac Air. My > >>> problems started when I got my M2. > >>> > >>> Janina > >>> > >>> Anders Holmberg writes: > Hi! > Yes of corse. > I do understand that. > But do things work for you now? > Bless. > /A > > > 29 dec. 2023 kl. 03:14 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > > : > > > > Not me. Not enough room in my suitcase, which is when I need the Mac > > hosted Linux. I've a perfectly good native Linux in my office. I want > > the Linux VM for traveling. > > > > > > Anders Holmberg writes: > >> Hi! > >> I???d rather use an old laptop for such things. > >> Even for linux. > >> /A > >> > >>> On 26 Dec 2023, at 17:31, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get > >>> the > >>> free license. > >>> > >>> It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside > >>> from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug > >>> that. > >>> > >>> Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to > >>> pay > >>> much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the > >>> accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly > >>> not > >>> in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U. > >>> > >>> So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn > >>> and mend their ways? > >>> > >>> Argh! > >>> > >>> Janina > >>> > >>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes: > Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a > new > license key (free) for Player. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > -Helen Keller > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: > > You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma. > > > > I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but > > that's > > another issue. > > > >>>
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Hi! Is this Debian or Arch you want to make running on the M2? My Mac mini is a m1 but from what I know now there is only one linux that runs on Linux. Linux called Asahi but I guess you know more on Linux than I do. Not sure if you can run this with speakup. Bless. /A > 31 dec. 2023 kl. 04:12 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > : > > Ah, bless you Anders! I suspect running anything virtualized on your > Macbook Air, or on mine would be a miracle on its own anymore. I did > have it working on my Air for quite a few years, though. The trick now > is to get it working on my M2! That's the machine I expect to travel > with for the forseeable future. > > Janina > > Anders Holmberg writes: >> Hi! >> Ok,so you can use parallels for other operating systems than Windows. >> I have a MacBook Air from 2015 I never use but it may come out handy for the >> linux thing. >> I could give it to you if you like but then you need to come to Sweden or I >> need to go where you live. >> Bless. >> /A >> >>> 29 dec. 2023 kl. 19:16 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries >>> : >>> >>> Let's say that I stumble along with the Mac Terminal whilst on the road >>> with my Macbook. For me it's horribly clunky to do much of anything >>> command line through that app, but it's not impossible in most >>> situations. >>> >>> This thread suggests to me that I should take another look at Parallels, >>> though. I don't even need the Linux desktop, just the command line shell >>> environment. This was working very well indeed on my old Mac Air. My >>> problems started when I got my M2. >>> >>> Janina >>> >>> Anders Holmberg writes: Hi! Yes of corse. I do understand that. But do things work for you now? Bless. /A > 29 dec. 2023 kl. 03:14 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > : > > Not me. Not enough room in my suitcase, which is when I need the Mac > hosted Linux. I've a perfectly good native Linux in my office. I want > the Linux VM for traveling. > > > Anders Holmberg writes: >> Hi! >> I???d rather use an old laptop for such things. >> Even for linux. >> /A >> >>> On 26 Dec 2023, at 17:31, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the >>> free license. >>> >>> It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside >>> from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that. >>> >>> Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay >>> much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the >>> accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not >>> in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U. >>> >>> So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn >>> and mend their ways? >>> >>> Argh! >>> >>> Janina >>> >>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes: Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new license key (free) for Player. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: > You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma. > > I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's > another issue. > > hth > Janina > > Anders Holmberg writes: >> Hi! >> DOes it even work on an m1 Mac? >> Or do you still have the intel? >> /A >> >>> 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>> : >>> >>> Hello all, >>> Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? >>> This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." >>> -Helen Keller >>> My e-Mail: >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on >>> the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach >>> mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can >>> reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Hi! Ok,so you can use parallels for other operating systems than Windows. I have a MacBook Air from 2015 I never use but it may come out handy for the linux thing. I could give it to you if you like but then you need to come to Sweden or I need to go where you live. Bless. /A > 29 dec. 2023 kl. 19:16 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > : > > Let's say that I stumble along with the Mac Terminal whilst on the road > with my Macbook. For me it's horribly clunky to do much of anything > command line through that app, but it's not impossible in most > situations. > > This thread suggests to me that I should take another look at Parallels, > though. I don't even need the Linux desktop, just the command line shell > environment. This was working very well indeed on my old Mac Air. My > problems started when I got my M2. > > Janina > > Anders Holmberg writes: >> Hi! >> Yes of corse. >> I do understand that. >> But do things work for you now? >> Bless. >> /A >> >>> 29 dec. 2023 kl. 03:14 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries >>> : >>> >>> Not me. Not enough room in my suitcase, which is when I need the Mac >>> hosted Linux. I've a perfectly good native Linux in my office. I want >>> the Linux VM for traveling. >>> >>> >>> Anders Holmberg writes: Hi! I???d rather use an old laptop for such things. Even for linux. /A > On 26 Dec 2023, at 17:31, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the > free license. > > It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside > from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that. > > Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay > much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the > accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not > in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U. > > So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn > and mend their ways? > > Argh! > > Janina > > 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes: >> Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new >> license key (free) for Player. >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." >> -Helen Keller >> My e-Mail: >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> >> On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>> You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma. >>> >>> I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's >>> another issue. >>> >>> hth >>> Janina >>> >>> Anders Holmberg writes: Hi! DOes it even work on an m1 Mac? Or do you still have the intel? /A > 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > : > > Hello all, > Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? > This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > -Helen Keller > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list > itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach > Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/479ece1b-707b-4e06-8e02-ee3f3da537ab%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Ma
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Let's say that I stumble along with the Mac Terminal whilst on the road with my Macbook. For me it's horribly clunky to do much of anything command line through that app, but it's not impossible in most situations. This thread suggests to me that I should take another look at Parallels, though. I don't even need the Linux desktop, just the command line shell environment. This was working very well indeed on my old Mac Air. My problems started when I got my M2. Janina Anders Holmberg writes: > Hi! > Yes of corse. > I do understand that. > But do things work for you now? > Bless. > /A > > > 29 dec. 2023 kl. 03:14 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > > : > > > > Not me. Not enough room in my suitcase, which is when I need the Mac > > hosted Linux. I've a perfectly good native Linux in my office. I want > > the Linux VM for traveling. > > > > > > Anders Holmberg writes: > >> Hi! > >> I???d rather use an old laptop for such things. > >> Even for linux. > >> /A > >> > >>> On 26 Dec 2023, at 17:31, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the > >>> free license. > >>> > >>> It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside > >>> from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that. > >>> > >>> Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay > >>> much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the > >>> accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not > >>> in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U. > >>> > >>> So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn > >>> and mend their ways? > >>> > >>> Argh! > >>> > >>> Janina > >>> > >>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes: > Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new > license key (free) for Player. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > -Helen Keller > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: > > You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma. > > > > I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's > > another issue. > > > > hth > > Janina > > > > Anders Holmberg writes: > >> Hi! > >> DOes it even work on an m1 Mac? > >> Or do you still have the intel? > >> /A > >> > >>> 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > >>> : > >>> > >>> Hello all, > >>> Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? > >>> This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks. > >>> > >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... > >>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > >>> -Helen Keller > >>> My e-Mail: > >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >>> > >>> -- > >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac > >>> Visionaries list. > >>> > >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > >>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > >>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list > >>> itself. > >>> > >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > >>> mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach > >>> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >>> > >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > >>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> To view this discussion on the web visit > >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/479ece1b-707b-4e06-8e02-ee3f3da537ab%40icloud.com. > >> > >> -- > >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac > >> Visionaries list. > >> > >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > >> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > >> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list > >> itself. > >> > >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > >> mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach > >> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >> > >> The archives for this list can be searched at: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > >> --- > >> You received this message because you are sub
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Hi! Yes of corse. I do understand that. But do things work for you now? Bless. /A > 29 dec. 2023 kl. 03:14 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > : > > Not me. Not enough room in my suitcase, which is when I need the Mac > hosted Linux. I've a perfectly good native Linux in my office. I want > the Linux VM for traveling. > > > Anders Holmberg writes: >> Hi! >> I???d rather use an old laptop for such things. >> Even for linux. >> /A >> >>> On 26 Dec 2023, at 17:31, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the >>> free license. >>> >>> It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside >>> from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that. >>> >>> Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay >>> much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the >>> accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not >>> in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U. >>> >>> So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn >>> and mend their ways? >>> >>> Argh! >>> >>> Janina >>> >>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes: Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new license key (free) for Player. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: > You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma. > > I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's > another issue. > > hth > Janina > > Anders Holmberg writes: >> Hi! >> DOes it even work on an m1 Mac? >> Or do you still have the intel? >> /A >> >>> 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>> : >>> >>> Hello all, >>> Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? >>> This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." >>> -Helen Keller >>> My e-Mail: >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>> itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara >>> at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/479ece1b-707b-4e06-8e02-ee3f3da537ab%40icloud.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/863ABCE4-AEF0-448C-BD50-1A21CEF477F2%40pipkrokodil.se. > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionar
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Not me. Not enough room in my suitcase, which is when I need the Mac hosted Linux. I've a perfectly good native Linux in my office. I want the Linux VM for traveling. Anders Holmberg writes: > Hi! > I???d rather use an old laptop for such things. > Even for linux. > /A > > > On 26 Dec 2023, at 17:31, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > > wrote: > > > > Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the > > free license. > > > > It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside > > from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that. > > > > Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay > > much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the > > accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not > > in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U. > > > > So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn > > and mend their ways? > > > > Argh! > > > > Janina > > > > 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes: > >> Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new > >> license key (free) for Player. > >> > >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... > >> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > >> -Helen Keller > >> My e-Mail: > >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >> > >> On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: > >>> You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma. > >>> > >>> I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's > >>> another issue. > >>> > >>> hth > >>> Janina > >>> > >>> Anders Holmberg writes: > Hi! > DOes it even work on an m1 Mac? > Or do you still have the intel? > /A > > > 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > > : > > > > Hello all, > > Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? > > This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks. > > > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > > -Helen Keller > > My e-Mail: > > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > > Visionaries list. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list > > itself. > > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara > > at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/479ece1b-707b-4e06-8e02-ee3f3da537ab%40icloud.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/863ABCE4-AEF0-448C-BD50-1A21CEF477F2%40pipkrokodil.se. > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac > >> Visionaries list. > >> > >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >> > >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > >> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >> >
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Hi! I’d rather use an old laptop for such things. Even for linux. /A > On 26 Dec 2023, at 17:31, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the > free license. > > It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside > from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that. > > Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay > much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the > accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not > in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U. > > So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn > and mend their ways? > > Argh! > > Janina > > 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes: >> Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new >> license key (free) for Player. >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." >> -Helen Keller >> My e-Mail: >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> >> On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>> You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma. >>> >>> I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's >>> another issue. >>> >>> hth >>> Janina >>> >>> Anders Holmberg writes: Hi! DOes it even work on an m1 Mac? Or do you still have the intel? /A > 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > : > > Hello all, > Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? This > broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > -Helen Keller > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/479ece1b-707b-4e06-8e02-ee3f3da537ab%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/863ABCE4-AEF0-448C-BD50-1A21CEF477F2%40pipkrokodil.se. >>> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvis
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
I can’t find a source for the news that Broadcom fired accessibility team employees from VMware, although of course they did fire many employees, generally. Anyway, I was rather annoyed to find that my Christmas wouldn’t go to plan because of the latest issues with Sonoma and Fusion. Something of a blow to we blind Mac-using folk, I think, and not one with a very good workaround. Keep piling on the pressure, as usual. Apple, in fact, rather than VMware, seem to be the culprit here, because of changes Apple made in AppKit, which breaks Fusion due to a safety check imposed on setuid binaries. They’re working on it though, apparently. Cheers, Sabahattin -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/EB6BD385-C0F2-47F5-9D7D-B7D7D63216F0%40me.com.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Hi E.t. are you DeafBlind? To. Be fair I am not having any issues in my Parallels setup whin I use usb braille. Bare in mind that iam using Dragon 15 Pro Stand alone. I also use J-Say v 22 on this VM and thanks to reading this about Brodcom firing all accessibility staff will insure that I will never com back to Vm Ware, at any price. Maurice Mines. > > On Dec 26, 2023, at 17:18, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > If that is true, then I will stop using Windows. It runs fine on Monterey > so will keep that for backup. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > -Helen Keller > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 12/26/2023 8:31 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: >> Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the >> free license. >> It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside >> from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that. >> Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay >> much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the >> accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not >> in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U. >> So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn >> and mend their ways? >> Argh! >> Janina >> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes: >>>Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new >>> license key (free) for Player. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." >>> -Helen Keller >>> My e-Mail: >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>> On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma. I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's another issue. hth Janina Anders Holmberg writes: > Hi! > DOes it even work on an m1 Mac? > Or do you still have the intel? > /A > >> 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >> : >> >> Hello all, >>Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? >> This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks. >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." >> -Helen Keller >> My e-Mail: >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/479ece1b-707b-4e06-8e02-ee3f3da537ab%40icloud.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/863ABCE4-AEF0-448C-BD50-1A21CEF477F2%40pipkrokodil.se. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, pl
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
If that is true, then I will stop using Windows. It runs fine on Monterey so will keep that for backup. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 12/26/2023 8:31 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the free license. It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that. Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U. So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn and mend their ways? Argh! Janina 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes: Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new license key (free) for Player. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma. I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's another issue. hth Janina Anders Holmberg writes: Hi! DOes it even work on an m1 Mac? Or do you still have the intel? /A 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries : Hello all, Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/479ece1b-707b-4e06-8e02-ee3f3da537ab%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/863ABCE4-AEF0-448C-BD50-1A21CEF477F2%40pipkrokodil.se. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/333d6b97-f443-4665-ab58-c114a80abb6f%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly
RE: VMware Fusion/Player
Wow, I hadn't heard they fired all the accessibility staff. That is truly unfortunate. There was a great deal of progress on making the clients themselves accessible, obviously far more than Parallels in my opinion. Kelly -Original Message- From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 10:32 AM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: VMware Fusion/Player Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the free license. It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that. Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U. So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn and mend their ways? Argh! Janina 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes: >Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a > new license key (free) for Player. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > -Helen Keller > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: > > You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma. > > > > I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but > > that's another issue. > > > > hth > > Janina > > > > Anders Holmberg writes: > > > Hi! > > > DOes it even work on an m1 Mac? > > > Or do you still have the intel? > > > /A > > > > > > > 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > > > > : > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > >Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? > > > > This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks. > > > > > > > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > > > > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > > > > -Helen Keller > > > > My e-Mail: > > > > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > > > > > > > -- > > > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > > > > Visionaries list. > > > > > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > > > > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > > > > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can > > > > reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - > > > > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > > > > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > > > an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/479ece1b-707b-4e06-8e02-ee3f3da537ab%40icloud.com. > > > > > > -- > > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > > > Visionaries list. > > > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > > > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > > > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > > > mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can > > > reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > > > --- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails fr
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the free license. It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that. Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U. So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn and mend their ways? Argh! Janina 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes: >Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new > license key (free) for Player. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > -Helen Keller > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: > > You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma. > > > > I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's > > another issue. > > > > hth > > Janina > > > > Anders Holmberg writes: > > > Hi! > > > DOes it even work on an m1 Mac? > > > Or do you still have the intel? > > > /A > > > > > > > 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > > > > : > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > >Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? > > > > This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks. > > > > > > > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > > > > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > > > > -Helen Keller > > > > My e-Mail: > > > > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > > > > > > > -- > > > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > > > > Visionaries list. > > > > > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > > > > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > > > > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > > > > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara > > > > at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > > > > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > > > an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/479ece1b-707b-4e06-8e02-ee3f3da537ab%40icloud.com. > > > > > > -- > > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > > > Visionaries list. > > > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > > > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > > > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > > > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > > > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > > > --- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/863ABCE4-AEF0-448C-BD50-1A21CEF477F2%40pipkrokodil.se. > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/333d6b97-f443-4665-ab58-c114a80abb6f%40icloud.com. -- Janina Sajka (she/her/hers) Accessibility C
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new license key (free) for Player. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma. I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's another issue. hth Janina Anders Holmberg writes: Hi! DOes it even work on an m1 Mac? Or do you still have the intel? /A 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries : Hello all, Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/479ece1b-707b-4e06-8e02-ee3f3da537ab%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/863ABCE4-AEF0-448C-BD50-1A21CEF477F2%40pipkrokodil.se. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/333d6b97-f443-4665-ab58-c114a80abb6f%40icloud.com.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma. I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's another issue. hth Janina Anders Holmberg writes: > Hi! > DOes it even work on an m1 Mac? > Or do you still have the intel? > /A > > > 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > > : > > > > Hello all, > > Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? This > > broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks. > > > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > > -Helen Keller > > My e-Mail: > > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > > Visionaries list. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/479ece1b-707b-4e06-8e02-ee3f3da537ab%40icloud.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/863ABCE4-AEF0-448C-BD50-1A21CEF477F2%40pipkrokodil.se. -- Janina Sajka (she/her/hers) Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa Linux Foundation Fellow https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/ -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/ZYX2IKqmd2J6L1Mt%40rednote.net.
Re: VMware Fusion/Player
Hi! DOes it even work on an m1 Mac? Or do you still have the intel? /A > 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > : > > Hello all, > Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? This > broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > -Helen Keller > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/479ece1b-707b-4e06-8e02-ee3f3da537ab%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/863ABCE4-AEF0-448C-BD50-1A21CEF477F2%40pipkrokodil.se.