Re: Verizon permanently throttling video on all unlimited plans, as low as 480p on iPhones

2017-08-23 Thread Scott Granados 
Well, T-Mobile tried this at one point and I think still has it in place.  When 
you hear about Binge on where people can stream unlimited video from certain 
sites, they down convert the signal if this feature is enabled.  Then there was 
a time they charged $25 extra for HD but I think that met resistance and went 
away or at least is less talked about now.  As an interesting point also, 
T-Mobile just increased from 28 to 32 megabytes the amount where they make the 
cut for throttling so they increased the bandwidth available.
I think it’s likely any company will throttle traffic on busy towers, 
that’s not unreasonable but down converting video I think will hit people the 
wrong way.

> On Aug 23, 2017, at 6:46 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> I was just about to write something to that effect.
> 
> I had a bad experience with T-Mobile years ago, so have avoided it 
> assiduously.  But this, along with the info Scot has shared re network 
> expansion, ismaking me think about giving them another go.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Aug 23, 2017, at 1:04 AM, gary-melconian  wrote:
>> 
>> They just lost a bunch of customers to  att , t-mobile and sprint. All those 
>> customers are going to be those switchers that t-mobile has been targeting 
>> lately . Now they have even more bullets in their firing armor.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lenron brown
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 10:56 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Verizon permanently throttling video on all unlimited plans, as 
>> low as 480p on iPhones
>> 
>> VZW what a rip off!
>> 
>> On 8/23/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 9to5Mac - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 4:29 AM Verizon permanently
>>> throttling video on all unlimited plans, as low as 480p on iPhones
>>> 
>>> We noted last month that Verizon was throttling Netflix and YouTube
>>> usage for 'unlimited' plan users even before they hit the 22GB level
>>> at which the company says it may reduce bandwidth - and it has now
>>> been revealed that this was just stage one.
>>> Verizon is now starting to throttle all video on its 'unlimited'
>>> plans, with bandwidth limited to as little as 480p when watching on a
>>> smartphone .
>>> 
>>> As The Verge reports, Verizon is splitting out its so-called unlimited
>>> plan into three versions.
>>> .   Go Unlimited: $75/month. Video capped to 480p on smartphones, 720p
>>> on tablets.
>>> .   Beyond Unlimited: $85/month. Video capped to 720p on smartphones,
>>> 1080p on tablets.
>>> .   Business Unlimited: Price varies. Video capped to 480p on
>>> smartphones, 720p on tablets.
>>> Not only this, but unlike the previous plan which allowed the carrier
>>> to reduce your data speeds after 22GB in one month, small-print in the
>>> basic Go Unlimited plan lets Verizon do so any time there is network
>>> congestion - aka the company not providing enough bandwidth to meet
>>> customer needs. The company does say than anyone unhappy with
>>> performance on this plan can upgrade to Beyond.
>>> Existing customers can keep their current plan, and you'll also get
>>> 15GB of full-speed LTE hotspot usage (up from 10GB) - but that still
>>> won't protect you from video throttling.
>>> This is what's likely going to enrage Verizon customers most. No
>>> matter what plan you're on - whether it's the old, grandfathered
>>> unlimited data plan or a tiered plan or the new unlimited plan -
>>> Verizon is taking a tighter grip over video streaming. "Moving
>>> forward, HD video on all legacy plans will also match Beyond
>>> Unlimited's HD quality."
>>> So you'll soon be limited to a maximum video quality of 720p streaming
>>> on phones and 1080p if you've got a tablet on your plan.
>>> The company claims that nobody can tell the difference between 720p
>>> and higher on a phone and 1080p and better on a tablet, claims which
>>> are clearly ridiculous on an iPhone and iPad.
>>> Customers were able to circumvent the previous Netflix- and
>>> YouTube-specific throttling by using a compatible VPN, but it's
>>> unclear whether this will help if the company is limiting the
>>> bandwidth of all video. The new limits kick in tomorrow for new
>>> customers, and 'soon' for existing ones, so it seems we won't have to
>>> wait long before we find out.
>>> 
>>> Original Article at:
>>> https://9to5mac.com/2017/08/22/verizon-unlimited-video-throttling/
>>> 
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Re: Verizon permanently throttling video on all unlimited plans, as low as 480p on iPhones

2017-08-23 Thread Donna Goodin 
I was just about to write something to that effect.

I had a bad experience with T-Mobile years ago, so have avoided it assiduously. 
 But this, along with the info Scot has shared re network expansion, ismaking 
me think about giving them another go.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Aug 23, 2017, at 1:04 AM, gary-melconian  wrote:
> 
> They just lost a bunch of customers to  att , t-mobile and sprint. All those 
> customers are going to be those switchers that t-mobile has been targeting 
> lately . Now they have even more bullets in their firing armor.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lenron brown
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 10:56 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Verizon permanently throttling video on all unlimited plans, as 
> low as 480p on iPhones
> 
> VZW what a rip off!
> 
> On 8/23/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 9to5Mac - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 4:29 AM Verizon permanently 
>> throttling video on all unlimited plans, as low as 480p on iPhones
>> 
>> We noted last month that Verizon was throttling Netflix and YouTube 
>> usage for 'unlimited' plan users even before they hit the 22GB level 
>> at which the company says it may reduce bandwidth - and it has now 
>> been revealed that this was just stage one.
>> Verizon is now starting to throttle all video on its 'unlimited' 
>> plans, with bandwidth limited to as little as 480p when watching on a 
>> smartphone .
>> 
>> As The Verge reports, Verizon is splitting out its so-called unlimited 
>> plan into three versions.
>> .Go Unlimited: $75/month. Video capped to 480p on smartphones, 720p
>> on tablets.
>> .Beyond Unlimited: $85/month. Video capped to 720p on smartphones,
>> 1080p on tablets.
>> .Business Unlimited: Price varies. Video capped to 480p on
>> smartphones, 720p on tablets.
>> Not only this, but unlike the previous plan which allowed the carrier 
>> to reduce your data speeds after 22GB in one month, small-print in the 
>> basic Go Unlimited plan lets Verizon do so any time there is network 
>> congestion - aka the company not providing enough bandwidth to meet 
>> customer needs. The company does say than anyone unhappy with 
>> performance on this plan can upgrade to Beyond.
>> Existing customers can keep their current plan, and you'll also get 
>> 15GB of full-speed LTE hotspot usage (up from 10GB) - but that still 
>> won't protect you from video throttling.
>> This is what's likely going to enrage Verizon customers most. No 
>> matter what plan you're on - whether it's the old, grandfathered 
>> unlimited data plan or a tiered plan or the new unlimited plan - 
>> Verizon is taking a tighter grip over video streaming. "Moving 
>> forward, HD video on all legacy plans will also match Beyond 
>> Unlimited's HD quality."
>> So you'll soon be limited to a maximum video quality of 720p streaming 
>> on phones and 1080p if you've got a tablet on your plan.
>> The company claims that nobody can tell the difference between 720p 
>> and higher on a phone and 1080p and better on a tablet, claims which 
>> are clearly ridiculous on an iPhone and iPad.
>> Customers were able to circumvent the previous Netflix- and 
>> YouTube-specific throttling by using a compatible VPN, but it's 
>> unclear whether this will help if the company is limiting the 
>> bandwidth of all video. The new limits kick in tomorrow for new 
>> customers, and 'soon' for existing ones, so it seems we won't have to 
>> wait long before we find out.
>> 
>> Original Article at:
>> https://9to5mac.com/2017/08/22/verizon-unlimited-video-throttling/
>> 
>> 
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RE: Verizon permanently throttling video on all unlimited plans, as low as 480p on iPhones

2017-08-23 Thread gary-melconian 
They just lost a bunch of customers to  att , t-mobile and sprint. All those 
customers are going to be those switchers that t-mobile has been targeting 
lately . Now they have even more bullets in their firing armor.  

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of lenron brown
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 10:56 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Verizon permanently throttling video on all unlimited plans, as 
low as 480p on iPhones

VZW what a rip off!

On 8/23/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 9to5Mac - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 4:29 AM Verizon permanently 
> throttling video on all unlimited plans, as low as 480p on iPhones
>
> We noted last month that Verizon was throttling Netflix and YouTube 
> usage for 'unlimited' plan users even before they hit the 22GB level 
> at which the company says it may reduce bandwidth - and it has now 
> been revealed that this was just stage one.
> Verizon is now starting to throttle all video on its 'unlimited' 
> plans, with bandwidth limited to as little as 480p when watching on a 
> smartphone .
>
> As The Verge reports, Verizon is splitting out its so-called unlimited 
> plan into three versions.
> . Go Unlimited: $75/month. Video capped to 480p on smartphones, 720p
> on tablets.
> . Beyond Unlimited: $85/month. Video capped to 720p on smartphones,
> 1080p on tablets.
> . Business Unlimited: Price varies. Video capped to 480p on
> smartphones, 720p on tablets.
> Not only this, but unlike the previous plan which allowed the carrier 
> to reduce your data speeds after 22GB in one month, small-print in the 
> basic Go Unlimited plan lets Verizon do so any time there is network 
> congestion - aka the company not providing enough bandwidth to meet 
> customer needs. The company does say than anyone unhappy with 
> performance on this plan can upgrade to Beyond.
> Existing customers can keep their current plan, and you'll also get 
> 15GB of full-speed LTE hotspot usage (up from 10GB) - but that still 
> won't protect you from video throttling.
> This is what's likely going to enrage Verizon customers most. No 
> matter what plan you're on - whether it's the old, grandfathered 
> unlimited data plan or a tiered plan or the new unlimited plan - 
> Verizon is taking a tighter grip over video streaming. "Moving 
> forward, HD video on all legacy plans will also match Beyond 
> Unlimited's HD quality."
> So you'll soon be limited to a maximum video quality of 720p streaming 
> on phones and 1080p if you've got a tablet on your plan.
> The company claims that nobody can tell the difference between 720p 
> and higher on a phone and 1080p and better on a tablet, claims which 
> are clearly ridiculous on an iPhone and iPad.
> Customers were able to circumvent the previous Netflix- and 
> YouTube-specific throttling by using a compatible VPN, but it's 
> unclear whether this will help if the company is limiting the 
> bandwidth of all video. The new limits kick in tomorrow for new 
> customers, and 'soon' for existing ones, so it seems we won't have to 
> wait long before we find out.
>
> Original Article at:
> https://9to5mac.com/2017/08/22/verizon-unlimited-video-throttling/
>
>
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Re: Verizon permanently throttling video on all unlimited plans, as low as 480p on iPhones

2017-08-22 Thread lenron brown 
VZW what a rip off!

On 8/23/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 9to5Mac - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 4:29 AM
> Verizon permanently throttling video on all unlimited plans, as low as 480p
> on iPhones
>
> We noted last month that Verizon was throttling Netflix and YouTube usage
> for 'unlimited' plan users even before they hit the 22GB level at which the
> company says it may reduce bandwidth - and it has now been revealed that
> this was just stage one.
> Verizon is now starting to throttle all video on its 'unlimited' plans,
> with
> bandwidth limited to as little as 480p when watching on a smartphone .
>
> As The Verge reports, Verizon is splitting out its so-called unlimited plan
> into three versions.
> . Go Unlimited: $75/month. Video capped to 480p on smartphones, 720p
> on tablets.
> . Beyond Unlimited: $85/month. Video capped to 720p on smartphones,
> 1080p on tablets.
> . Business Unlimited: Price varies. Video capped to 480p on
> smartphones, 720p on tablets.
> Not only this, but unlike the previous plan which allowed the carrier to
> reduce your data speeds after 22GB in one month, small-print in the basic
> Go
> Unlimited plan lets Verizon do so any time there is network congestion -
> aka
> the company not providing enough bandwidth to meet customer needs. The
> company does say than anyone unhappy with performance on this plan can
> upgrade to Beyond.
> Existing customers can keep their current plan, and you'll also get 15GB of
> full-speed LTE hotspot usage (up from 10GB) - but that still won't protect
> you from video throttling.
> This is what's likely going to enrage Verizon customers most. No matter
> what
> plan you're on - whether it's the old, grandfathered unlimited data plan or
> a tiered plan or the new unlimited plan - Verizon is taking a tighter grip
> over video streaming. "Moving forward, HD video on all legacy plans will
> also match Beyond Unlimited's HD quality."
> So you'll soon be limited to a maximum video quality of 720p streaming on
> phones and 1080p if you've got a tablet on your plan.
> The company claims that nobody can tell the difference between 720p and
> higher on a phone and 1080p and better on a tablet, claims which are
> clearly
> ridiculous on an iPhone and iPad.
> Customers were able to circumvent the previous Netflix- and
> YouTube-specific
> throttling by using a compatible VPN, but it's unclear whether this will
> help if the company is limiting the bandwidth of all video. The new limits
> kick in tomorrow for new customers, and 'soon' for existing ones, so it
> seems we won't have to wait long before we find out.
>
> Original Article at:
> https://9to5mac.com/2017/08/22/verizon-unlimited-video-throttling/
>
>
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