Re: macOS 10.14.3: VoiceOver Loading Slowly after Entering Password
Just to clarify, I did not do a clean install, just an upgrade after backing up the machine. I do have applications that may perform some loading and checking activities between the time I press the "login" button and the time VoiceOver speaks. I have Dropbox and ClamXAV on my system. Here's the short summary of load times: Time of boot-up before password is requested: about 15 seconds for Yosemite and Mojave Time between pressing "login" button and VoiceOver speaking: about 4 seconds for Yosemite; about 15 seconds for Mojave I'm not very concerned about this situation. As the days go by, I realize my MacBook Air is performing well under 10.14.3. I get no more "Safari busy" notifications than I did when I ran Yosemite, and although the Mail app takes perhaps a second longer to load under Mojave than it did under Yosemite, the machine seems snappier when I navigate from element to element. Craig On 2/26/19, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote: > Hi, > > The iMacs with an HD have a 5400 RPM HD which is rather frustrating to me. > You have all the power and RAM required to have a really quite amazing > machine, but the 5400 RPM drive is like putting a 4 cylinder engine into a > full size pickup. Yes, services like iCloud syncing, DropBox and Google > Drive that go out to sync data can slow things down between login and > building of the Desktop. Unless you were experiencing problems prior to the > upgrade, a clean install vs upgrade install really shouldn't be a factor. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Feb 26, 2019, at 07:37, ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a 2013 iMac with 8 GB of ram and a 1 TB HD and have auto login > enabled and find that vo takes quite a bit of time to load. I am wondering > if you did a clean install or a in place upgrade. This may have something > to do with it. Also do you have certain apps such a drop box or online > backup apps that load at start at login. Just trying to have some idea as > to what could be causing this. > > Matthew > > > > From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 6:15 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: macOS 10.14.3: VoiceOver Loading Slowly after Entering > Password > > Hi, > > I'd say that it might be a combination of both. The 4 GB is pretty much the > minimum that Mojave can handle. Combine that with a slower processor, and > you will find things a little slower. Also, if you've just done the > upgrade, give your Mac about 24 hours or so to index everything and it > should start behaving better. Note, the indexing only happens when the Mac > is awake. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Feb 25, 2019, at 16:06, Craig Werner <mailto:coffeeb...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Greetings to the list. > > After a much overdo upgrade of my MacBook Air from OS X 10.10.5 to > macOS Mojave 10.14.3, VoiceOver takes quite a bit of time to load > after I type my Apple ID password. About fifteen seconds elapse > between my entering the "login" command and VoiceOver's speaking the > "Welcome to OS 10" message. With Yosemite, the time interval was > about four seconds. Is this a known issue with later macOS versions, > or is it due to the 4GB storage capacity of my machine? > > Thank you for all help. > > Craig > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:
Re: macOS 10.14.3: VoiceOver Loading Slowly after Entering Password
Hi, The iMacs with an HD have a 5400 RPM HD which is rather frustrating to me. You have all the power and RAM required to have a really quite amazing machine, but the 5400 RPM drive is like putting a 4 cylinder engine into a full size pickup. Yes, services like iCloud syncing, DropBox and Google Drive that go out to sync data can slow things down between login and building of the Desktop. Unless you were experiencing problems prior to the upgrade, a clean install vs upgrade install really shouldn't be a factor. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 26, 2019, at 07:37, ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have a 2013 iMac with 8 GB of ram and a 1 TB HD and have auto login enabled and find that vo takes quite a bit of time to load. I am wondering if you did a clean install or a in place upgrade. This may have something to do with it. Also do you have certain apps such a drop box or online backup apps that load at start at login. Just trying to have some idea as to what could be causing this. Matthew From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 6:15 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: macOS 10.14.3: VoiceOver Loading Slowly after Entering Password Hi, I'd say that it might be a combination of both. The 4 GB is pretty much the minimum that Mojave can handle. Combine that with a slower processor, and you will find things a little slower. Also, if you've just done the upgrade, give your Mac about 24 hours or so to index everything and it should start behaving better. Note, the indexing only happens when the Mac is awake. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 25, 2019, at 16:06, Craig Werner mailto:coffeeb...@gmail.com>> wrote: Greetings to the list. After a much overdo upgrade of my MacBook Air from OS X 10.10.5 to macOS Mojave 10.14.3, VoiceOver takes quite a bit of time to load after I type my Apple ID password. About fifteen seconds elapse between my entering the "login" command and VoiceOver's speaking the "Welcome to OS 10" message. With Yosemite, the time interval was about four seconds. Is this a known issue with later macOS versions, or is it due to the 4GB storage capacity of my machine? Thank you for all help. Craig -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries <https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroup
RE: macOS 10.14.3: VoiceOver Loading Slowly after Entering Password
Hi, I have a 2013 iMac with 8 GB of ram and a 1 TB HD and have auto login enabled and find that vo takes quite a bit of time to load. I am wondering if you did a clean install or a in place upgrade. This may have something to do with it. Also do you have certain apps such a drop box or online backup apps that load at start at login. Just trying to have some idea as to what could be causing this. Matthew From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 6:15 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: macOS 10.14.3: VoiceOver Loading Slowly after Entering Password Hi, I'd say that it might be a combination of both. The 4 GB is pretty much the minimum that Mojave can handle. Combine that with a slower processor, and you will find things a little slower. Also, if you've just done the upgrade, give your Mac about 24 hours or so to index everything and it should start behaving better. Note, the indexing only happens when the Mac is awake. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 25, 2019, at 16:06, Craig Werner mailto:coffeeb...@gmail.com> > wrote: Greetings to the list. After a much overdo upgrade of my MacBook Air from OS X 10.10.5 to macOS Mojave 10.14.3, VoiceOver takes quite a bit of time to load after I type my Apple ID password. About fifteen seconds elapse between my entering the "login" command and VoiceOver's speaking the "Welcome to OS 10" message. With Yosemite, the time interval was about four seconds. Is this a known issue with later macOS versions, or is it due to the 4GB storage capacity of my machine? Thank you for all help. Craig -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
Re: macOS 10.14.3: VoiceOver Loading Slowly after Entering Password
Mojave, compared to Yosemite, has a lot more going on behind the screen. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 2/25/2019 4:27 PM, Craig Werner wrote: Thank you, Tim, for your prompt reply. Yes, I rather suspected the low storage capacity and slow processor speed of my mid-2015 Mac. I performed the upgrade about two days ago, and the machine has been awake for a reasonable amount of time; so perhaps its indexing is complete. Had I upgraded gradually rather than jumping from 10.10 to 10.14, the slow VoiceOver awake time might not have been as noticeable to me. It's a small price to pay for an updated operating system. Craig On 2/25/19, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi, I'd say that it might be a combination of both. The 4 GB is pretty much the minimum that Mojave can handle. Combine that with a slower processor, and you will find things a little slower. Also, if you've just done the upgrade, give your Mac about 24 hours or so to index everything and it should start behaving better. Note, the indexing only happens when the Mac is awake. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 25, 2019, at 16:06, Craig Werner wrote: Greetings to the list. After a much overdo upgrade of my MacBook Air from OS X 10.10.5 to macOS Mojave 10.14.3, VoiceOver takes quite a bit of time to load after I type my Apple ID password. About fifteen seconds elapse between my entering the "login" command and VoiceOver's speaking the "Welcome to OS 10" message. With Yosemite, the time interval was about four seconds. Is this a known issue with later macOS versions, or is it due to the 4GB storage capacity of my machine? Thank you for all help. Craig -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: macOS 10.14.3: VoiceOver Loading Slowly after Entering Password
Thank you, Tim, for your prompt reply. Yes, I rather suspected the low storage capacity and slow processor speed of my mid-2015 Mac. I performed the upgrade about two days ago, and the machine has been awake for a reasonable amount of time; so perhaps its indexing is complete. Had I upgraded gradually rather than jumping from 10.10 to 10.14, the slow VoiceOver awake time might not have been as noticeable to me. It's a small price to pay for an updated operating system. Craig On 2/25/19, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote: > Hi, > > I'd say that it might be a combination of both. The 4 GB is pretty much the > minimum that Mojave can handle. Combine that with a slower processor, and > you will find things a little slower. Also, if you've just done the > upgrade, give your Mac about 24 hours or so to index everything and it > should start behaving better. Note, the indexing only happens when the Mac > is awake. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Feb 25, 2019, at 16:06, Craig Werner wrote: > > Greetings to the list. > > After a much overdo upgrade of my MacBook Air from OS X 10.10.5 to > macOS Mojave 10.14.3, VoiceOver takes quite a bit of time to load > after I type my Apple ID password. About fifteen seconds elapse > between my entering the "login" command and VoiceOver's speaking the > "Welcome to OS 10" message. With Yosemite, the time interval was > about four seconds. Is this a known issue with later macOS versions, > or is it due to the 4GB storage capacity of my machine? > > Thank you for all help. > > Craig > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: macOS 10.14.3: VoiceOver Loading Slowly after Entering Password
Hi, I'd say that it might be a combination of both. The 4 GB is pretty much the minimum that Mojave can handle. Combine that with a slower processor, and you will find things a little slower. Also, if you've just done the upgrade, give your Mac about 24 hours or so to index everything and it should start behaving better. Note, the indexing only happens when the Mac is awake. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 25, 2019, at 16:06, Craig Werner wrote: Greetings to the list. After a much overdo upgrade of my MacBook Air from OS X 10.10.5 to macOS Mojave 10.14.3, VoiceOver takes quite a bit of time to load after I type my Apple ID password. About fifteen seconds elapse between my entering the "login" command and VoiceOver's speaking the "Welcome to OS 10" message. With Yosemite, the time interval was about four seconds. Is this a known issue with later macOS versions, or is it due to the 4GB storage capacity of my machine? Thank you for all help. Craig -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
