Re: 6 or 8 dot braille for brf files
No, 8 dot braille means computer braille. 6 dot braille actually means grade I braille. This is still braille with conversions, just not grade II contractions. A .brf or .brl file is a file which uses ASCII computer symbols to represent grade II braille. Performing any literary braille conversion on the file, whether grade I or grade II, renders the file unusable. A few examples of conversions in grade I literary braille include: numbers are letters with the number sign immediately preceding the letters, the number 1 is the literary braille comma, 2 is semicolon, 3 is colon, and so forth. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 12 Feb 2014, at 8:14, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I have a BRF question. When reading a brf in text edit, I turn off automatic braille translation. As far as I can tell, I have to use 8 dot braille for the brf to be represented correctly. Is there a way to read a brf file in 6 dot braille correctly? Currently, when I uncheck the 8 dot braille box, it does funky things like adding a number sign in front of lower cell symbols so that the en sign becomes number sign 5 etc. Anything I can do? Thanks. -Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: 6 or 8 dot braille for brf files
Hi, Greg, You need to read these in eight-dot Braille. Brf files are in upper-case characters, so in order to read them without the dot-7 appearing below each character, you will need to select all your text with command-a, then go into the edit menu, transformations, and change the text to lower-case. It's possible at this point that you could try six-dot Braille, but once you transform the text to lower-case, I don't think it makes any difference. HtH, teresa On Feb 11, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I have a BRF question. When reading a brf in text edit, I turn off automatic braille translation. As far as I can tell, I have to use 8 dot braille for the brf to be represented correctly. Is there a way to read a brf file in 6 dot braille correctly? Currently, when I uncheck the 8 dot braille box, it does funky things like adding a number sign in front of lower cell symbols so that the en sign becomes number sign 5 etc. Anything I can do? Thanks. -Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: 6 or 8 dot braille for brf files
Thanks for this tip Teresa. That made things much more readable. Incidentally, when I tried 6 dot braille after the transformation, it still made similar mistakes. It almost looks as though automatic translation gets turned on if you try and read in 6 dot braille. I don't know why that would be so. -Greg On Feb 11, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, Greg, You need to read these in eight-dot Braille. Brf files are in upper-case characters, so in order to read them without the dot-7 appearing below each character, you will need to select all your text with command-a, then go into the edit menu, transformations, and change the text to lower-case. It's possible at this point that you could try six-dot Braille, but once you transform the text to lower-case, I don't think it makes any difference. HtH, teresa On Feb 11, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I have a BRF question. When reading a brf in text edit, I turn off automatic braille translation. As far as I can tell, I have to use 8 dot braille for the brf to be represented correctly. Is there a way to read a brf file in 6 dot braille correctly? Currently, when I uncheck the 8 dot braille box, it does funky things like adding a number sign in front of lower cell symbols so that the en sign becomes number sign 5 etc. Anything I can do? Thanks. -Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: 6 or 8 dot braille for brf files
How do i make text edit type in Braille? What do i enable it in fontbook? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for this tip Teresa. That made things much more readable. Incidentally, when I tried 6 dot braille after the transformation, it still made similar mistakes. It almost looks as though automatic translation gets turned on if you try and read in 6 dot braille. I don't know why that would be so. -Greg On Feb 11, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, Greg, You need to read these in eight-dot Braille. Brf files are in upper-case characters, so in order to read them without the dot-7 appearing below each character, you will need to select all your text with command-a, then go into the edit menu, transformations, and change the text to lower-case. It's possible at this point that you could try six-dot Braille, but once you transform the text to lower-case, I don't think it makes any difference. HtH, teresa On Feb 11, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I have a BRF question. When reading a brf in text edit, I turn off automatic braille translation. As far as I can tell, I have to use 8 dot braille for the brf to be represented correctly. Is there a way to read a brf file in 6 dot braille correctly? Currently, when I uncheck the 8 dot braille box, it does funky things like adding a number sign in front of lower cell symbols so that the en sign becomes number sign 5 etc. Anything I can do? Thanks. -Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: 6 or 8 dot braille for brf files
Try 8-4ot braille Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: How do i make text edit type in Braille? What do i enable it in fontbook? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for this tip Teresa. That made things much more readable. Incidentally, when I tried 6 dot braille after the transformation, it still made similar mistakes. It almost looks as though automatic translation gets turned on if you try and read in 6 dot braille. I don't know why that would be so. -Greg On Feb 11, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, Greg, You need to read these in eight-dot Braille. Brf files are in upper-case characters, so in order to read them without the dot-7 appearing below each character, you will need to select all your text with command-a, then go into the edit menu, transformations, and change the text to lower-case. It's possible at this point that you could try six-dot Braille, but once you transform the text to lower-case, I don't think it makes any difference. HtH, teresa On Feb 11, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I have a BRF question. When reading a brf in text edit, I turn off automatic braille translation. As far as I can tell, I have to use 8 dot braille for the brf to be represented correctly. Is there a way to read a brf file in 6 dot braille correctly? Currently, when I uncheck the 8 dot braille box, it does funky things like adding a number sign in front of lower cell symbols so that the en sign becomes number sign 5 etc. Anything I can do? Thanks. -Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: 6 or 8 dot braille for brf files
What? I did not see that. I am using the one that says, blank. Will that work? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Try 8-4ot braille Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: How do i make text edit type in Braille? What do i enable it in fontbook? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for this tip Teresa. That made things much more readable. Incidentally, when I tried 6 dot braille after the transformation, it still made similar mistakes. It almost looks as though automatic translation gets turned on if you try and read in 6 dot braille. I don't know why that would be so. -Greg On Feb 11, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, Greg, You need to read these in eight-dot Braille. Brf files are in upper-case characters, so in order to read them without the dot-7 appearing below each character, you will need to select all your text with command-a, then go into the edit menu, transformations, and change the text to lower-case. It's possible at this point that you could try six-dot Braille, but once you transform the text to lower-case, I don't think it makes any difference. HtH, teresa On Feb 11, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I have a BRF question. When reading a brf in text edit, I turn off automatic braille translation. As far as I can tell, I have to use 8 dot braille for the brf to be represented correctly. Is there a way to read a brf file in 6 dot braille correctly? Currently, when I uncheck the 8 dot braille box, it does funky things like adding a number sign in front of lower cell symbols so that the en sign becomes number sign 5 etc. Anything I can do? Thanks. -Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: 6 or 8 dot braille for brf files
What are you trying to do, Jessica. Are you just wanting to show a sighted person what Braille looks like? If a braille font is used, it will make a visual representation of Braille. You might want to start a different thread on this topic, as it doesn't relate to using braille on a Braille display. HtH, Teresa On Feb 11, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: What? I did not see that. I am using the one that says, blank. Will that work? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Try 8-4ot braille Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: How do i make text edit type in Braille? What do i enable it in fontbook? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for this tip Teresa. That made things much more readable. Incidentally, when I tried 6 dot braille after the transformation, it still made similar mistakes. It almost looks as though automatic translation gets turned on if you try and read in 6 dot braille. I don't know why that would be so. -Greg On Feb 11, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, Greg, You need to read these in eight-dot Braille. Brf files are in upper-case characters, so in order to read them without the dot-7 appearing below each character, you will need to select all your text with command-a, then go into the edit menu, transformations, and change the text to lower-case. It's possible at this point that you could try six-dot Braille, but once you transform the text to lower-case, I don't think it makes any difference. HtH, teresa On Feb 11, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I have a BRF question. When reading a brf in text edit, I turn off automatic braille translation. As far as I can tell, I have to use 8 dot braille for the brf to be represented correctly. Is there a way to read a brf file in 6 dot braille correctly? Currently, when I uncheck the 8 dot braille box, it does funky things like adding a number sign in front of lower cell symbols so that the en sign becomes number sign 5 etc. Anything I can do? Thanks. -Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To
