Re: A little off topic, yet maybe relevant to some

2014-11-24 Thread Jessica Moss
Oh wow, had no idea they made apps for other operating systems as well, but 
never used them after I switched to the mac platform.  I did a tryal 
subscription when I still used my windows machine, and loved it, and was 
debating over whether or not to get a paid subscription, but never did it.
On Nov 22, 2014, at 11:34 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:

 Wow. That’s really a shame. The programmer worked so, so hard! He made apps 
 for the mac, iOS, Android, and System access. Sure it wasn’t all that good, 
 but the services offered, gosh it was the first time I ever heard described 
 programming!
 On Nov 22, 2014, at 1:22 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I follow their Twitter feed. Once they realized news had spread like 
 wildfire, they decided to defend themselves as if they were  a3 year old 
 child. You cannot tell me five people are going to depart right before the 
 holidays under good terms. As much listenership as they have developed 
 around the world it is rather disingenuous of them not to give an 
 explanation. After they saw the firestorm on their Twitter feed, they said 
 they would come out with some sort of a lame blog post. After the way they 
 handle the Twitter feed, there is no way I can believe anything a blog post 
 could say.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:57 PM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Here it is:
 Serotek, the makers of the System Access screen reader and the company 
 behind the Serotalk POdcast Network, has parted ways with the majority of 
 their staf, leaving the future of the company in doubt. Those losing their 
 jobs include Buddy Brannan, Ricky ENger, Lisa Salinger, Joe Steinkamp, and 
 Richard Wells. Steinkamp and Enger were let go last week while the other 
 three announced their departures earlier on Friday. The staff members let go 
 produced and participated in many popular podcasts including The SeroTalk 
 Podcast, Triple-Click Home, That Android Show, and End of line among others. 
 This leaves a bare-bones staff including long-time programmer Matt Campbell 
 and producer Jamie Pauls who remain with the company, at least for the 
 moment. We've reached out to Serotek for comment, and inquired about the 
 future of the company and their software products and will post more if we 
 hear back. We know a lot of you might like to post your memories, comments, 
 or well wishes to those who have departed. Feel free to do this in the 
 comments. Update to clarify that some of the 5 may have officially resigned. 
 That being said, it's unlikely this was done under favorable terms. The end 
 result is still the same.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:45 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 can you please post the link to the article?
 
 On 11/21/2014 10:26 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:
 Hello folks,
 For those who don't know and   our listeners to the Serotalk podcast, 
 their main team has been fired.
 If you follow blind bargains on Twitter, they have the article posted 
 there. There is nothing on the Serotalk page or the Serotek page to say 
 anything about the most recent move.  Truly a shame. Those guys had good 
 chemistry. You would never know they were working from across the country. 
 If you subscribe to any of their services, you're likely to get less 
 support now than you ever did. I hope it doesn't mean the beginning of the 
 end for those people. As hard as their founder worked to create it into 
 the company it has been.
 
 Pam Francis
 
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Re: A little off topic, yet maybe relevant to some

2014-11-22 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Wow! That's quite a shame. System Access is a good screenreader and I would 
hate to see Serotek go belly up and lose those resources that SA and SamNet 
have.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

 On Nov 22, 2014, at 1:22 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I follow their Twitter feed. Once they realized news had spread like 
 wildfire, they decided to defend themselves as if they were  a3 year old 
 child. You cannot tell me five people are going to depart right before the 
 holidays under good terms. As much listenership as they have developed around 
 the world it is rather disingenuous of them not to give an explanation. After 
 they saw the firestorm on their Twitter feed, they said they would come out 
 with some sort of a lame blog post. After the way they handle the Twitter 
 feed, there is no way I can believe anything a blog post could say.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:57 PM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Here it is:
 Serotek, the makers of the System Access screen reader and the company behind 
 the Serotalk POdcast Network, has parted ways with the majority of their 
 staf, leaving the future of the company in doubt. Those losing their jobs 
 include Buddy Brannan, Ricky ENger, Lisa Salinger, Joe Steinkamp, and Richard 
 Wells. Steinkamp and Enger were let go last week while the other three 
 announced their departures earlier on Friday. The staff members let go 
 produced and participated in many popular podcasts including The SeroTalk 
 Podcast, Triple-Click Home, That Android Show, and End of line among others. 
 This leaves a bare-bones staff including long-time programmer Matt Campbell 
 and producer Jamie Pauls who remain with the company, at least for the 
 moment. We've reached out to Serotek for comment, and inquired about the 
 future of the company and their software products and will post more if we 
 hear back. We know a lot of you might like to post your memories, comments, 
 or well wishes to those who have departed. Feel free to do this in the 
 comments. Update to clarify that some of the 5 may have officially resigned. 
 That being said, it's unlikely this was done under favorable terms. The end 
 result is still the same.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:45 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 can you please post the link to the article?
 
 On 11/21/2014 10:26 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:
 Hello folks,
 For those who don't know and   our listeners to the Serotalk podcast, their 
 main team has been fired.
 If you follow blind bargains on Twitter, they have the article posted 
 there. There is nothing on the Serotalk page or the Serotek page to say 
 anything about the most recent move.  Truly a shame. Those guys had good 
 chemistry. You would never know they were working from across the country. 
 If you subscribe to any of their services, you're likely to get less 
 support now than you ever did. I hope it doesn't mean the beginning of the 
 end for those people. As hard as their founder worked to create it into the 
 company it has been.
 
 Pam Francis
 
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Re: A little off topic, yet maybe relevant to some

2014-11-22 Thread Juliette Swiler
As a longtime paid subscriber of the mobile network, I am shocked and saddened 
by this announcement. As myself, like many others depend on their service for 
our email and other content in the blindness community, including DocuScan 
plus, iBlink radio, etc., I would surely hate to see this company go bottoms 
up. If it weren’t for all of us in the blindness community, this company would 
not exist, and for the money we pay them for subscriptions, we as paying 
subscribers deserve an explanation for this.   
 On Nov 22, 2014, at 4:36 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Wow! That's quite a shame. System Access is a good screenreader and I would 
 hate to see Serotek go belly up and lose those resources that SA and SamNet 
 have.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Nov 22, 2014, at 1:22 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I follow their Twitter feed. Once they realized news had spread like 
 wildfire, they decided to defend themselves as if they were  a3 year old 
 child. You cannot tell me five people are going to depart right before the 
 holidays under good terms. As much listenership as they have developed 
 around the world it is rather disingenuous of them not to give an 
 explanation. After they saw the firestorm on their Twitter feed, they said 
 they would come out with some sort of a lame blog post. After the way they 
 handle the Twitter feed, there is no way I can believe anything a blog post 
 could say.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:57 PM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Here it is:
 Serotek, the makers of the System Access screen reader and the company 
 behind the Serotalk POdcast Network, has parted ways with the majority of 
 their staf, leaving the future of the company in doubt. Those losing their 
 jobs include Buddy Brannan, Ricky ENger, Lisa Salinger, Joe Steinkamp, and 
 Richard Wells. Steinkamp and Enger were let go last week while the other 
 three announced their departures earlier on Friday. The staff members let go 
 produced and participated in many popular podcasts including The SeroTalk 
 Podcast, Triple-Click Home, That Android Show, and End of line among others. 
 This leaves a bare-bones staff including long-time programmer Matt Campbell 
 and producer Jamie Pauls who remain with the company, at least for the 
 moment. We've reached out to Serotek for comment, and inquired about the 
 future of the company and their software products and will post more if we 
 hear back. We know a lot of you might like to post your memories, comments, 
 or well wishes to those who have departed. Feel free to do this in the 
 comments. Update to clarify that some of the 5 may have officially resigned. 
 That being said, it's unlikely this was done under favorable terms. The end 
 result is still the same.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:45 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 can you please post the link to the article?
 
 On 11/21/2014 10:26 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:
 Hello folks,
 For those who don't know and   our listeners to the Serotalk podcast, 
 their main team has been fired.
 If you follow blind bargains on Twitter, they have the article posted 
 there. There is nothing on the Serotalk page or the Serotek page to say 
 anything about the most recent move.  Truly a shame. Those guys had good 
 chemistry. You would never know they were working from across the country. 
 If you subscribe to any of their services, you're likely to get less 
 support now than you ever did. I hope it doesn't mean the beginning of the 
 end for those people. As hard as their founder worked to create it into 
 the company it has been.
 
 Pam Francis
 
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Re: A little off topic, yet maybe relevant to some

2014-11-22 Thread Jessica Miss
That doesn't make sense; they made great software and other services to go 
along with it so don't understand why they're splitting up all of a sudden.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 22, 2014, at 12:57 AM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Here it is:
 Serotek, the makers of the System Access screen reader and the company behind 
 the Serotalk POdcast Network, has parted ways with the majority of their 
 staf, leaving the future of the company in doubt. Those losing their jobs 
 include Buddy Brannan, Ricky ENger, Lisa Salinger, Joe Steinkamp, and Richard 
 Wells. Steinkamp and Enger were let go last week while the other three 
 announced their departures earlier on Friday. The staff members let go 
 produced and participated in many popular podcasts including The SeroTalk 
 Podcast, Triple-Click Home, That Android Show, and End of line among others. 
 This leaves a bare-bones staff including long-time programmer Matt Campbell 
 and producer Jamie Pauls who remain with the company, at least for the 
 moment. We've reached out to Serotek for comment, and inquired about the 
 future of the company and their software products and will post more if we 
 hear back. We know a lot of you might like to post your memories, comments, 
 or well wishes to those who have departed. Feel free to do this in the 
 comments. Update to clarify that some of the 5 may have officially resigned. 
 That being said, it's unlikely this was done under favorable terms. The end 
 result is still the same.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:45 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 can you please post the link to the article?
 
 On 11/21/2014 10:26 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:
 Hello folks,
 For those who don't know and   our listeners to the Serotalk podcast, their 
 main team has been fired.
 If you follow blind bargains on Twitter, they have the article posted 
 there. There is nothing on the Serotalk page or the Serotek page to say 
 anything about the most recent move.  Truly a shame. Those guys had good 
 chemistry. You would never know they were working from across the country. 
 If you subscribe to any of their services, you're likely to get less 
 support now than you ever did. I hope it doesn't mean the beginning of the 
 end for those people. As hard as their founder worked to create it into the 
 company it has been.
 
 Pam Francis
 
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Re: A little off topic, yet maybe relevant to some

2014-11-22 Thread Pamela Francis
What is truly sad, is they have risen to be the beacon of convention coverage 
and or A T  news bragging about how many followers they had, yet are willing in 
the wink of an eye to pull the rug  out from under all of those people who have 
come to depend on them. Mike Calvo, their   founder, is blind. He   left the 
company. Their current CEO is sighted. It's no skin off of his nose to close 
the door on a resource that many have come to depend on. Though they have sworn 
their  employees to secrecy, it sounds to me like they have become more 
mercenary with the inability to deliver.  I'll bet they didn't bother to send 
an email to their paying subscribers letting them know the service was going to 
get axed if in fact that happens. They didn't count on blind bargains printing  
their story. In order to save face they feel as if they have to come out with a 
lame blog explanation. 
 That in my opinion is 100% garbage. You wanted to be a big boy company 
accepting all the big boy accolades? Put on your big boy pants, face the music. 
Do a podcast. Bring everyone back, allow them all to explain why they left with 
no holes barred.

Pam Francis

On Nov 22, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Jessica Miss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

That doesn't make sense; they made great software and other services to go 
along with it so don't understand why they're splitting up all of a sudden.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 22, 2014, at 12:57 AM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Here it is:
 Serotek, the makers of the System Access screen reader and the company behind 
 the Serotalk POdcast Network, has parted ways with the majority of their 
 staf, leaving the future of the company in doubt. Those losing their jobs 
 include Buddy Brannan, Ricky ENger, Lisa Salinger, Joe Steinkamp, and Richard 
 Wells. Steinkamp and Enger were let go last week while the other three 
 announced their departures earlier on Friday. The staff members let go 
 produced and participated in many popular podcasts including The SeroTalk 
 Podcast, Triple-Click Home, That Android Show, and End of line among others. 
 This leaves a bare-bones staff including long-time programmer Matt Campbell 
 and producer Jamie Pauls who remain with the company, at least for the 
 moment. We've reached out to Serotek for comment, and inquired about the 
 future of the company and their software products and will post more if we 
 hear back. We know a lot of you might like to post your memories, comments, 
 or well wishes to those who have departed. Feel free to do this in the 
 comments. Update to clarify that some of the 5 may have officially resigned. 
 That being said, it's unlikely this was done under favorable terms. The end 
 result is still the same.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:45 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 can you please post the link to the article?
 
 On 11/21/2014 10:26 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:
 Hello folks,
 For those who don't know and   our listeners to the Serotalk podcast, their 
 main team has been fired.
 If you follow blind bargains on Twitter, they have the article posted 
 there. There is nothing on the Serotalk page or the Serotek page to say 
 anything about the most recent move.  Truly a shame. Those guys had good 
 chemistry. You would never know they were working from across the country. 
 If you subscribe to any of their services, you're likely to get less 
 support now than you ever did. I hope it doesn't mean the beginning of the 
 end for those people. As hard as their founder worked to create it into the 
 company it has been.
 
 Pam Francis
 
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Re: A little off topic, yet maybe relevant to some

2014-11-22 Thread Mary Otten
It's probably simple. They probably ran out of money. I don't think very many 
people use their screen reader. And I have no idea how many are on Sam nett. I 
know I am. I have most of the year left on a subscription. It is really too 
bad. I will certainly miss them. And I do wish the company would be a little 
bit forthcoming about what is going on there. But I won't hold my breath.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 22, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Jessica Miss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That doesn't make sense; they made great software and other services to go 
 along with it so don't understand why they're splitting up all of a sudden.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 22, 2014, at 12:57 AM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Here it is:
 Serotek, the makers of the System Access screen reader and the company 
 behind the Serotalk POdcast Network, has parted ways with the majority of 
 their staf, leaving the future of the company in doubt. Those losing their 
 jobs include Buddy Brannan, Ricky ENger, Lisa Salinger, Joe Steinkamp, and 
 Richard Wells. Steinkamp and Enger were let go last week while the other 
 three announced their departures earlier on Friday. The staff members let go 
 produced and participated in many popular podcasts including The SeroTalk 
 Podcast, Triple-Click Home, That Android Show, and End of line among others. 
 This leaves a bare-bones staff including long-time programmer Matt Campbell 
 and producer Jamie Pauls who remain with the company, at least for the 
 moment. We've reached out to Serotek for comment, and inquired about the 
 future of the company and their software products and will post more if we 
 hear back. We know a lot of you might like to post your memories, comments, 
 or well wishes to those who have departed. Feel free to do this in the 
 comments. Update to clarify that some of the 5 may have officially resigned. 
 That being said, it's unlikely this was done under favorable terms. The end 
 result is still the same.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:45 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 can you please post the link to the article?
 
 On 11/21/2014 10:26 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:
 Hello folks,
 For those who don't know and   our listeners to the Serotalk podcast, 
 their main team has been fired.
 If you follow blind bargains on Twitter, they have the article posted 
 there. There is nothing on the Serotalk page or the Serotek page to say 
 anything about the most recent move.  Truly a shame. Those guys had good 
 chemistry. You would never know they were working from across the country. 
 If you subscribe to any of their services, you're likely to get less 
 support now than you ever did. I hope it doesn't mean the beginning of the 
 end for those people. As hard as their founder worked to create it into 
 the company it has been.
 
 Pam Francis
 
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Re: A little off topic, yet maybe relevant to some

2014-11-22 Thread The Believer
   Its not like they are alone in this. I see more and more adaptive 
companies facing more competition from other areas such as Apple. 
Reality checks do not bounce.


From The Believer. . .
 . . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/22/2014 10:59 AM, Pamela Francis wrote:

What is truly sad, is they have risen to be the beacon of convention coverage 
and or A T  news bragging about how many followers they had, yet are willing in 
the wink of an eye to pull the rug  out from under all of those people who have 
come to depend on them. Mike Calvo, their   founder, is blind. He   left the 
company. Their current CEO is sighted. It's no skin off of his nose to close 
the door on a resource that many have come to depend on. Though they have sworn 
their  employees to secrecy, it sounds to me like they have become more 
mercenary with the inability to deliver.  I'll bet they didn't bother to send 
an email to their paying subscribers letting them know the service was going to 
get axed if in fact that happens. They didn't count on blind bargains printing  
their story. In order to save face they feel as if they have to come out with a 
lame blog explanation.
  That in my opinion is 100% garbage. You wanted to be a big boy company 
accepting all the big boy accolades? Put on your big boy pants, face the music. 
Do a podcast. Bring everyone back, allow them all to explain why they left with 
no holes barred.

Pam Francis

On Nov 22, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Jessica Miss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

That doesn't make sense; they made great software and other services to go 
along with it so don't understand why they're splitting up all of a sudden.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 22, 2014, at 12:57 AM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote:

Here it is:
Serotek, the makers of the System Access screen reader and the company behind 
the Serotalk POdcast Network, has parted ways with the majority of their staf, 
leaving the future of the company in doubt. Those losing their jobs include 
Buddy Brannan, Ricky ENger, Lisa Salinger, Joe Steinkamp, and Richard Wells. 
Steinkamp and Enger were let go last week while the other three announced their 
departures earlier on Friday. The staff members let go produced and 
participated in many popular podcasts including The SeroTalk Podcast, 
Triple-Click Home, That Android Show, and End of line among others. This leaves 
a bare-bones staff including long-time programmer Matt Campbell and producer 
Jamie Pauls who remain with the company, at least for the moment. We've reached 
out to Serotek for comment, and inquired about the future of the company and 
their software products and will post more if we hear back. We know a lot of 
you might like to post your memories, comments, or well wishes to those who

have departed. Feel free to do this in the comments. Update to clarify that 
some of the 5 may have officially resigned. That being said, it's unlikely this 
was done under favorable terms. The end result is still the same.


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:45 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:

can you please post the link to the article?


On 11/21/2014 10:26 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:
Hello folks,
For those who don't know and   our listeners to the Serotalk podcast, their 
main team has been fired.
If you follow blind bargains on Twitter, they have the article posted there. 
There is nothing on the Serotalk page or the Serotek page to say anything about 
the most recent move.  Truly a shame. Those guys had good chemistry. You would 
never know they were working from across the country. If you subscribe to any 
of their services, you're likely to get less support now than you ever did. I 
hope it doesn't mean the beginning of the end for those people. As hard as 
their founder worked to create it into the company it has been.

Pam Francis


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Re: A little off topic, yet maybe relevant to some

2014-11-22 Thread Devin Prater
Wow. That’s really a shame. The programmer worked so, so hard! He made apps for 
the mac, iOS, Android, and System access. Sure it wasn’t all that good, but the 
services offered, gosh it was the first time I ever heard described programming!
 On Nov 22, 2014, at 1:22 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I follow their Twitter feed. Once they realized news had spread like 
 wildfire, they decided to defend themselves as if they were  a3 year old 
 child. You cannot tell me five people are going to depart right before the 
 holidays under good terms. As much listenership as they have developed around 
 the world it is rather disingenuous of them not to give an explanation. After 
 they saw the firestorm on their Twitter feed, they said they would come out 
 with some sort of a lame blog post. After the way they handle the Twitter 
 feed, there is no way I can believe anything a blog post could say.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:57 PM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Here it is:
 Serotek, the makers of the System Access screen reader and the company behind 
 the Serotalk POdcast Network, has parted ways with the majority of their 
 staf, leaving the future of the company in doubt. Those losing their jobs 
 include Buddy Brannan, Ricky ENger, Lisa Salinger, Joe Steinkamp, and Richard 
 Wells. Steinkamp and Enger were let go last week while the other three 
 announced their departures earlier on Friday. The staff members let go 
 produced and participated in many popular podcasts including The SeroTalk 
 Podcast, Triple-Click Home, That Android Show, and End of line among others. 
 This leaves a bare-bones staff including long-time programmer Matt Campbell 
 and producer Jamie Pauls who remain with the company, at least for the 
 moment. We've reached out to Serotek for comment, and inquired about the 
 future of the company and their software products and will post more if we 
 hear back. We know a lot of you might like to post your memories, comments, 
 or well wishes to those who have departed. Feel free to do this in the 
 comments. Update to clarify that some of the 5 may have officially resigned. 
 That being said, it's unlikely this was done under favorable terms. The end 
 result is still the same.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:45 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 can you please post the link to the article?
 
 On 11/21/2014 10:26 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:
 Hello folks,
 For those who don't know and   our listeners to the Serotalk podcast, their 
 main team has been fired.
 If you follow blind bargains on Twitter, they have the article posted 
 there. There is nothing on the Serotalk page or the Serotek page to say 
 anything about the most recent move.  Truly a shame. Those guys had good 
 chemistry. You would never know they were working from across the country. 
 If you subscribe to any of their services, you're likely to get less 
 support now than you ever did. I hope it doesn't mean the beginning of the 
 end for those people. As hard as their founder worked to create it into the 
 company it has been.
 
 Pam Francis
 
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Re: A little off topic, yet maybe relevant to some

2014-11-22 Thread Devin Prater
Um, why did mike Calvo leave? And why a sighted person in place of him? Gosh. 
All these companies are making way too poor of choices.
 On Nov 22, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What is truly sad, is they have risen to be the beacon of convention coverage 
 and or A T  news bragging about how many followers they had, yet are willing 
 in the wink of an eye to pull the rug  out from under all of those people who 
 have come to depend on them. Mike Calvo, their   founder, is blind. He   left 
 the company. Their current CEO is sighted. It's no skin off of his nose to 
 close the door on a resource that many have come to depend on. Though they 
 have sworn their  employees to secrecy, it sounds to me like they have become 
 more mercenary with the inability to deliver.  I'll bet they didn't bother to 
 send an email to their paying subscribers letting them know the service was 
 going to get axed if in fact that happens. They didn't count on blind 
 bargains printing  their story. In order to save face they feel as if they 
 have to come out with a lame blog explanation. 
 That in my opinion is 100% garbage. You wanted to be a big boy company 
 accepting all the big boy accolades? Put on your big boy pants, face the 
 music. Do a podcast. Bring everyone back, allow them all to explain why they 
 left with no holes barred.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Nov 22, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Jessica Miss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That doesn't make sense; they made great software and other services to go 
 along with it so don't understand why they're splitting up all of a sudden.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 22, 2014, at 12:57 AM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Here it is:
 Serotek, the makers of the System Access screen reader and the company 
 behind the Serotalk POdcast Network, has parted ways with the majority of 
 their staf, leaving the future of the company in doubt. Those losing their 
 jobs include Buddy Brannan, Ricky ENger, Lisa Salinger, Joe Steinkamp, and 
 Richard Wells. Steinkamp and Enger were let go last week while the other 
 three announced their departures earlier on Friday. The staff members let go 
 produced and participated in many popular podcasts including The SeroTalk 
 Podcast, Triple-Click Home, That Android Show, and End of line among others. 
 This leaves a bare-bones staff including long-time programmer Matt Campbell 
 and producer Jamie Pauls who remain with the company, at least for the 
 moment. We've reached out to Serotek for comment, and inquired about the 
 future of the company and their software products and will post more if we 
 hear back. We know a lot of you might like to post your memories, comments, 
 or well wishes to those who have departed. Feel free to do this in the 
 comments. Update to clarify that some of the 5 may have officially resigned. 
 That being said, it's unlikely this was done under favorable terms. The end 
 result is still the same.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:45 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 can you please post the link to the article?
 
 On 11/21/2014 10:26 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:
 Hello folks,
 For those who don't know and   our listeners to the Serotalk podcast, 
 their main team has been fired.
 If you follow blind bargains on Twitter, they have the article posted 
 there. There is nothing on the Serotalk page or the Serotek page to say 
 anything about the most recent move.  Truly a shame. Those guys had good 
 chemistry. You would never know they were working from across the country. 
 If you subscribe to any of their services, you're likely to get less 
 support now than you ever did. I hope it doesn't mean the beginning of the 
 end for those people. As hard as their founder worked to create it into 
 the company it has been.
 
 Pam Francis
 
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Re: A little off topic, yet maybe relevant to some

2014-11-21 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona

can you please post the link to the article?

On 11/21/2014 10:26 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:

Hello folks,
For those who don't know and   our listeners to the Serotalk podcast, their 
main team has been fired.
If you follow blind bargains on Twitter, they have the article posted there. 
There is nothing on the Serotalk page or the Serotek page to say anything about 
the most recent move.  Truly a shame. Those guys had good chemistry. You would 
never know they were working from across the country. If you subscribe to any 
of their services, you're likely to get less support now than you ever did. I 
hope it doesn't mean the beginning of the end for those people. As hard as 
their founder worked to create it into the company it has been.

Pam Francis



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Re: A little off topic, yet maybe relevant to some

2014-11-21 Thread Joe Quinn
Here it is:
Serotek, the makers of the System Access screen reader and the company behind 
the Serotalk POdcast Network, has parted ways with the majority of their staf, 
leaving the future of the company in doubt. Those losing their jobs include 
Buddy Brannan, Ricky ENger, Lisa Salinger, Joe Steinkamp, and Richard Wells. 
Steinkamp and Enger were let go last week while the other three announced their 
departures earlier on Friday. The staff members let go produced and 
participated in many popular podcasts including The SeroTalk Podcast, 
Triple-Click Home, That Android Show, and End of line among others. This leaves 
a bare-bones staff including long-time programmer Matt Campbell and producer 
Jamie Pauls who remain with the company, at least for the moment. We've reached 
out to Serotek for comment, and inquired about the future of the company and 
their software products and will post more if we hear back. We know a lot of 
you might like to post your memories, comments, or well wishes to those who 
have departed. Feel free to do this in the comments. Update to clarify that 
some of the 5 may have officially resigned. That being said, it's unlikely this 
was done under favorable terms. The end result is still the same.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:45 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 can you please post the link to the article?
 
 On 11/21/2014 10:26 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:
 Hello folks,
 For those who don't know and   our listeners to the Serotalk podcast, their 
 main team has been fired.
 If you follow blind bargains on Twitter, they have the article posted there. 
 There is nothing on the Serotalk page or the Serotek page to say anything 
 about the most recent move.  Truly a shame. Those guys had good chemistry. 
 You would never know they were working from across the country. If you 
 subscribe to any of their services, you're likely to get less support now 
 than you ever did. I hope it doesn't mean the beginning of the end for those 
 people. As hard as their founder worked to create it into the company it has 
 been.
 
 Pam Francis
 
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Re: A little off topic, yet maybe relevant to some

2014-11-21 Thread Pamela Francis
I follow their Twitter feed. Once they realized news had spread like wildfire, 
they decided to defend themselves as if they were  a3 year old child. You 
cannot tell me five people are going to depart right before the holidays under 
good terms. As much listenership as they have developed around the world it is 
rather disingenuous of them not to give an explanation. After they saw the 
firestorm on their Twitter feed, they said they would come out with some sort 
of a lame blog post. After the way they handle the Twitter feed, there is no 
way I can believe anything a blog post could say.

Pam Francis

On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:57 PM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote:

Here it is:
Serotek, the makers of the System Access screen reader and the company behind 
the Serotalk POdcast Network, has parted ways with the majority of their staf, 
leaving the future of the company in doubt. Those losing their jobs include 
Buddy Brannan, Ricky ENger, Lisa Salinger, Joe Steinkamp, and Richard Wells. 
Steinkamp and Enger were let go last week while the other three announced their 
departures earlier on Friday. The staff members let go produced and 
participated in many popular podcasts including The SeroTalk Podcast, 
Triple-Click Home, That Android Show, and End of line among others. This leaves 
a bare-bones staff including long-time programmer Matt Campbell and producer 
Jamie Pauls who remain with the company, at least for the moment. We've reached 
out to Serotek for comment, and inquired about the future of the company and 
their software products and will post more if we hear back. We know a lot of 
you might like to post your memories, comments, or well wishes to those who 
have departed. Feel free to do this in the comments. Update to clarify that 
some of the 5 may have officially resigned. That being said, it's unlikely this 
was done under favorable terms. The end result is still the same.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:45 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 can you please post the link to the article?
 
 On 11/21/2014 10:26 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:
 Hello folks,
 For those who don't know and   our listeners to the Serotalk podcast, their 
 main team has been fired.
 If you follow blind bargains on Twitter, they have the article posted there. 
 There is nothing on the Serotalk page or the Serotek page to say anything 
 about the most recent move.  Truly a shame. Those guys had good chemistry. 
 You would never know they were working from across the country. If you 
 subscribe to any of their services, you're likely to get less support now 
 than you ever did. I hope it doesn't mean the beginning of the end for those 
 people. As hard as their founder worked to create it into the company it has 
 been.
 
 Pam Francis
 
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