Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
I support companies that can give me the most, with the least amount of fuss.  
I rather pay $100 for something that does everything I want, and does it well, 
in 1 package than pay $50 for something that does half the things I want at a 
average level at that.  unless I spend time switching between that and 2 or 3 
other apps to get all the info I want of course.  I wouldn't pay $900 like how 
it use to cost though.  Thats just robbery.  But $100? not so much if it 
delivers.

JMO.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Jan 20, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:

> Hi.
> $100? Maybe. $300? Definitely not!
> I don't support companies that think they're products including apps, need to 
> cost an arm and both legs if I can help it. Thats why I moved to the iPhone. 
> I got tired of paying as stupid amount of money [Talks] to make my phone 
> speak and also why I'm writing this on a Mac that I didn't have to pay 
> $10 to make speak over it's life time [Jaws for Winblows].
> Sorry to the Jaws users that I may have insulted.
> 
> On 2012-01-20, at 8:59 AM, Bill Holton wrote:
> 
>> How many people do you think will be willing to pay the $100-300 it could
>> cost for them to release it this way and still stay in business?
>> I for one, would, but seems like everyone complains when an app costs more
>> than 3.99.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 7:44 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone
>> 
>> Just ask Sendero Group to bring Geo to the I phone rather than keeping it on
>> an out of date windows platform.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> On 19 Jan 2012, at 02:46 PM, Emrah  wrote:
>> 
>>> Krister, there is no programming involved when it comes to creating points
>> along the way to your destination.
>>> 
>>> You ask someone to guide you once, and when you feel like you should set
>> up a landmark somewhere, you just shake your phone and label the point.
>>> If the next landmark you set up is located 80 meters at 3 o'clock from you
>> previous landmark, the app will automatically tell you where it is. It is
>> not up to you to set up direction information. You just shake it up and
>> walk. Lol.
>>> 
>>> E
>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>> 
>>>> But before the app can guide you back to your destination, or for that
>> matter anywhere else, you actually have to draw a map yourself of the way
>> you want to go, as far as i understand the loadstone concept, and i could be
>> totally wrong here, but i want to have maps drawn for me and then follow
>> them, i don't want to go fumbling around in foreign teritories and then try
>> drawing up some kind of map especially not if you have to provide lat and
>> long coordinates yourself. As i said earlier call me lazy but and this is
>> why i don't like opensource at all, i want a program that's ready and that
>> works, i don't want to make the program myself, because i am an idiot when
>> it comes to programming in any shape or form. I just want the thing to work.
>> I'll gladly leave programming, map drawing and other such stuff to the
>> experts, the knowledgeable ones.
>>>> /Krister
>>>> 
>>>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 22:06 skrev Emrah:
>>>> 
>>>>> This is definitely not an app where you can input an address and expect
>> to be guided to it. I would love to find an app that would work well with
>> VoiceOver and provide accurate pedestrian navigation instructions.
>>>>> Last time I used Navigon in pedestrian mode, I felt like an idiot when
>> it said "At the roundabout, take the second exit."
>>>>> 
>>>>> This app is great to find directions in large open spaces. If you have a
>> guide dog and like having nice refreshing walks together, this app opens new
>> horizons to you and your friend. You can just walk freely in any open area
>> and ask the app to guide you back to your point of origin.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> But as i understand it, you have to put in your own points and stuff
>> yourself, this is why i never used loadstone, because if you hadn't made
>> points yoursel

Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-20 Thread Matthew Campbell
Hi.
$100? Maybe. $300? Definitely not!
I don't support companies that think they're products including apps, need to 
cost an arm and both legs if I can help it. Thats why I moved to the iPhone. I 
got tired of paying as stupid amount of money [Talks] to make my phone speak 
and also why I'm writing this on a Mac that I didn't have to pay $10 to 
make speak over it's life time [Jaws for Winblows].
Sorry to the Jaws users that I may have insulted.

On 2012-01-20, at 8:59 AM, Bill Holton wrote:

> How many people do you think will be willing to pay the $100-300 it could
> cost for them to release it this way and still stay in business?
> I for one, would, but seems like everyone complains when an app costs more
> than 3.99.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 7:44 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone
> 
> Just ask Sendero Group to bring Geo to the I phone rather than keeping it on
> an out of date windows platform.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 19 Jan 2012, at 02:46 PM, Emrah  wrote:
> 
>> Krister, there is no programming involved when it comes to creating points
> along the way to your destination.
>> 
>> You ask someone to guide you once, and when you feel like you should set
> up a landmark somewhere, you just shake your phone and label the point.
>> If the next landmark you set up is located 80 meters at 3 o'clock from you
> previous landmark, the app will automatically tell you where it is. It is
> not up to you to set up direction information. You just shake it up and
> walk. Lol.
>> 
>> E
>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> 
>>> But before the app can guide you back to your destination, or for that
> matter anywhere else, you actually have to draw a map yourself of the way
> you want to go, as far as i understand the loadstone concept, and i could be
> totally wrong here, but i want to have maps drawn for me and then follow
> them, i don't want to go fumbling around in foreign teritories and then try
> drawing up some kind of map especially not if you have to provide lat and
> long coordinates yourself. As i said earlier call me lazy but and this is
> why i don't like opensource at all, i want a program that's ready and that
> works, i don't want to make the program myself, because i am an idiot when
> it comes to programming in any shape or form. I just want the thing to work.
> I'll gladly leave programming, map drawing and other such stuff to the
> experts, the knowledgeable ones.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 22:06 skrev Emrah:
>>> 
>>>> This is definitely not an app where you can input an address and expect
> to be guided to it. I would love to find an app that would work well with
> VoiceOver and provide accurate pedestrian navigation instructions.
>>>> Last time I used Navigon in pedestrian mode, I felt like an idiot when
> it said "At the roundabout, take the second exit."
>>>> 
>>>> This app is great to find directions in large open spaces. If you have a
> guide dog and like having nice refreshing walks together, this app opens new
> horizons to you and your friend. You can just walk freely in any open area
> and ask the app to guide you back to your point of origin.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> But as i understand it, you have to put in your own points and stuff
> yourself, this is why i never used loadstone, because if you hadn't made
> points yourself or if there weren't readymade maps, made by users  it was as
> good as useless. Call me lazy if you will, but i'd much rather prefer
> walking a readymade rout to learn it than first have to build the route then
> learn it.
>>>>> /Krister
>>>>> 
>>>>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 18:33 skrev Emrah:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is not a turn by turn app, but can almost sound like one if you set
> up your points right.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If the app tells you your destination is at 3 o'clock and you are at
> the corner of 2 streets, you logically make a right. If it says it's at 2
> o'clock, you can still make a right, and most likely turn left at the next
> intersection.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Emrah
>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Matth

Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Tons.

Look at all the voiceover users who shelled out the money for Navigon, and Tom 
Tom.  And even then, we have to use 1 or 2 more apps to supplement the main 
turn by turn Navigation app.  And for that matter, it just doesn't have to be 
bought by blind people, or voiceover users in general.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Jan 20, 2012, at 8:59 AM, Bill Holton wrote:

> How many people do you think will be willing to pay the $100-300 it could
> cost for them to release it this way and still stay in business?
> I for one, would, but seems like everyone complains when an app costs more
> than 3.99.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 7:44 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone
> 
> Just ask Sendero Group to bring Geo to the I phone rather than keeping it on
> an out of date windows platform.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 19 Jan 2012, at 02:46 PM, Emrah  wrote:
> 
>> Krister, there is no programming involved when it comes to creating points
> along the way to your destination.
>> 
>> You ask someone to guide you once, and when you feel like you should set
> up a landmark somewhere, you just shake your phone and label the point.
>> If the next landmark you set up is located 80 meters at 3 o'clock from you
> previous landmark, the app will automatically tell you where it is. It is
> not up to you to set up direction information. You just shake it up and
> walk. Lol.
>> 
>> E
>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> 
>>> But before the app can guide you back to your destination, or for that
> matter anywhere else, you actually have to draw a map yourself of the way
> you want to go, as far as i understand the loadstone concept, and i could be
> totally wrong here, but i want to have maps drawn for me and then follow
> them, i don't want to go fumbling around in foreign teritories and then try
> drawing up some kind of map especially not if you have to provide lat and
> long coordinates yourself. As i said earlier call me lazy but and this is
> why i don't like opensource at all, i want a program that's ready and that
> works, i don't want to make the program myself, because i am an idiot when
> it comes to programming in any shape or form. I just want the thing to work.
> I'll gladly leave programming, map drawing and other such stuff to the
> experts, the knowledgeable ones.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 22:06 skrev Emrah:
>>> 
>>>> This is definitely not an app where you can input an address and expect
> to be guided to it. I would love to find an app that would work well with
> VoiceOver and provide accurate pedestrian navigation instructions.
>>>> Last time I used Navigon in pedestrian mode, I felt like an idiot when
> it said "At the roundabout, take the second exit."
>>>> 
>>>> This app is great to find directions in large open spaces. If you have a
> guide dog and like having nice refreshing walks together, this app opens new
> horizons to you and your friend. You can just walk freely in any open area
> and ask the app to guide you back to your point of origin.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> But as i understand it, you have to put in your own points and stuff
> yourself, this is why i never used loadstone, because if you hadn't made
> points yourself or if there weren't readymade maps, made by users  it was as
> good as useless. Call me lazy if you will, but i'd much rather prefer
> walking a readymade rout to learn it than first have to build the route then
> learn it.
>>>>> /Krister
>>>>> 
>>>>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 18:33 skrev Emrah:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is not a turn by turn app, but can almost sound like one if you set
> up your points right.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If the app tells you your destination is at 3 o'clock and you are at
> the corner of 2 streets, you logically make a right. If it says it's at 2
> o'clock, you can still make a right, and most likely turn left at the next
> intersection.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Emrah
>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>

Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-20 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
The way I look at it is this.

I am sure that the price of Geo could be brought to something acceptable as 
they know everyone who have experienced the product and liked it, would want it 
so for a lesser sum (as how apps are in the app store) they could sell Geo for 
what we pay for apps at the moment as no one will pay extortionate prices any 
more.  They would I am sure make a killing 

On 20 Jan 2012, at 01:59 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:

> How many people do you think will be willing to pay the $100-300 it could
> cost for them to release it this way and still stay in business?
> I for one, would, but seems like everyone complains when an app costs more
> than 3.99.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 7:44 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone
> 
> Just ask Sendero Group to bring Geo to the I phone rather than keeping it on
> an out of date windows platform.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 19 Jan 2012, at 02:46 PM, Emrah  wrote:
> 
>> Krister, there is no programming involved when it comes to creating points
> along the way to your destination.
>> 
>> You ask someone to guide you once, and when you feel like you should set
> up a landmark somewhere, you just shake your phone and label the point.
>> If the next landmark you set up is located 80 meters at 3 o'clock from you
> previous landmark, the app will automatically tell you where it is. It is
> not up to you to set up direction information. You just shake it up and
> walk. Lol.
>> 
>> E
>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> 
>>> But before the app can guide you back to your destination, or for that
> matter anywhere else, you actually have to draw a map yourself of the way
> you want to go, as far as i understand the loadstone concept, and i could be
> totally wrong here, but i want to have maps drawn for me and then follow
> them, i don't want to go fumbling around in foreign teritories and then try
> drawing up some kind of map especially not if you have to provide lat and
> long coordinates yourself. As i said earlier call me lazy but and this is
> why i don't like opensource at all, i want a program that's ready and that
> works, i don't want to make the program myself, because i am an idiot when
> it comes to programming in any shape or form. I just want the thing to work.
> I'll gladly leave programming, map drawing and other such stuff to the
> experts, the knowledgeable ones.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 22:06 skrev Emrah:
>>> 
>>>> This is definitely not an app where you can input an address and expect
> to be guided to it. I would love to find an app that would work well with
> VoiceOver and provide accurate pedestrian navigation instructions.
>>>> Last time I used Navigon in pedestrian mode, I felt like an idiot when
> it said "At the roundabout, take the second exit."
>>>> 
>>>> This app is great to find directions in large open spaces. If you have a
> guide dog and like having nice refreshing walks together, this app opens new
> horizons to you and your friend. You can just walk freely in any open area
> and ask the app to guide you back to your point of origin.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> But as i understand it, you have to put in your own points and stuff
> yourself, this is why i never used loadstone, because if you hadn't made
> points yourself or if there weren't readymade maps, made by users  it was as
> good as useless. Call me lazy if you will, but i'd much rather prefer
> walking a readymade rout to learn it than first have to build the route then
> learn it.
>>>>> /Krister
>>>>> 
>>>>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 18:33 skrev Emrah:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is not a turn by turn app, but can almost sound like one if you set
> up your points right.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If the app tells you your destination is at 3 o'clock and you are at
> the corner of 2 streets, you logically make a right. If it says it's at 2
> o'clock, you can still make a right, and most likely turn left at the next
> intersection.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Emrah
>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Than

RE: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-20 Thread Bill Holton
How many people do you think will be willing to pay the $100-300 it could
cost for them to release it this way and still stay in business?
I for one, would, but seems like everyone complains when an app costs more
than 3.99.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 7:44 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

Just ask Sendero Group to bring Geo to the I phone rather than keeping it on
an out of date windows platform.

Kawal.

On 19 Jan 2012, at 02:46 PM, Emrah  wrote:

> Krister, there is no programming involved when it comes to creating points
along the way to your destination.
> 
> You ask someone to guide you once, and when you feel like you should set
up a landmark somewhere, you just shake your phone and label the point.
> If the next landmark you set up is located 80 meters at 3 o'clock from you
previous landmark, the app will automatically tell you where it is. It is
not up to you to set up direction information. You just shake it up and
walk. Lol.
> 
> E
> On Jan 19, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> 
>> But before the app can guide you back to your destination, or for that
matter anywhere else, you actually have to draw a map yourself of the way
you want to go, as far as i understand the loadstone concept, and i could be
totally wrong here, but i want to have maps drawn for me and then follow
them, i don't want to go fumbling around in foreign teritories and then try
drawing up some kind of map especially not if you have to provide lat and
long coordinates yourself. As i said earlier call me lazy but and this is
why i don't like opensource at all, i want a program that's ready and that
works, i don't want to make the program myself, because i am an idiot when
it comes to programming in any shape or form. I just want the thing to work.
I'll gladly leave programming, map drawing and other such stuff to the
experts, the knowledgeable ones.
>> /Krister
>> 
>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 22:06 skrev Emrah:
>> 
>>> This is definitely not an app where you can input an address and expect
to be guided to it. I would love to find an app that would work well with
VoiceOver and provide accurate pedestrian navigation instructions.
>>> Last time I used Navigon in pedestrian mode, I felt like an idiot when
it said "At the roundabout, take the second exit."
>>> 
>>> This app is great to find directions in large open spaces. If you have a
guide dog and like having nice refreshing walks together, this app opens new
horizons to you and your friend. You can just walk freely in any open area
and ask the app to guide you back to your point of origin.
>>> 
>>> Cheers!
>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>> 
>>>> But as i understand it, you have to put in your own points and stuff
yourself, this is why i never used loadstone, because if you hadn't made
points yourself or if there weren't readymade maps, made by users  it was as
good as useless. Call me lazy if you will, but i'd much rather prefer
walking a readymade rout to learn it than first have to build the route then
learn it.
>>>> /Krister
>>>> 
>>>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 18:33 skrev Emrah:
>>>> 
>>>>> It is not a turn by turn app, but can almost sound like one if you set
up your points right.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If the app tells you your destination is at 3 o'clock and you are at
the corner of 2 streets, you logically make a right. If it says it's at 2
o'clock, you can still make a right, and most likely turn left at the next
intersection.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Emrah
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> It opened up in safari as well and I was actually able to see and
english description from there.
>>>>>> Does this do turn by turn as well or just guide you to a previously
set waypoint.
>>>>>> Thanks for sharing this awesome sounding app.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2012-01-18, at 12:06 PM, Emrah wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Matthew,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Try accessing the App Store description directly from your iPHone.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think the main difference is the ability to load OpenStreet
points.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Emrah
>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Ma

Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-20 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Just ask Sendero Group to bring Geo to the I phone rather than keeping it on an 
out of date windows platform.

Kawal.

On 19 Jan 2012, at 02:46 PM, Emrah  wrote:

> Krister, there is no programming involved when it comes to creating points 
> along the way to your destination.
> 
> You ask someone to guide you once, and when you feel like you should set up a 
> landmark somewhere, you just shake your phone and label the point.
> If the next landmark you set up is located 80 meters at 3 o'clock from you 
> previous landmark, the app will automatically tell you where it is. It is not 
> up to you to set up direction information. You just shake it up and walk. Lol.
> 
> E
> On Jan 19, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> 
>> But before the app can guide you back to your destination, or for that 
>> matter anywhere else, you actually have to draw a map yourself of the way 
>> you want to go, as far as i understand the loadstone concept, and i could be 
>> totally wrong here, but i want to have maps drawn for me and then follow 
>> them, i don't want to go fumbling around in foreign teritories and then try 
>> drawing up some kind of map especially not if you have to provide lat and 
>> long coordinates yourself. As i said earlier call me lazy but and this is 
>> why i don't like opensource at all, i want a program that's ready and that 
>> works, i don't want to make the program myself, because i am an idiot when 
>> it comes to programming in any shape or form. I just want the thing to work. 
>> I'll gladly leave programming, map drawing and other such stuff to the 
>> experts, the knowledgeable ones.
>> /Krister
>> 
>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 22:06 skrev Emrah:
>> 
>>> This is definitely not an app where you can input an address and expect to 
>>> be guided to it. I would love to find an app that would work well with 
>>> VoiceOver and provide accurate pedestrian navigation instructions.
>>> Last time I used Navigon in pedestrian mode, I felt like an idiot when it 
>>> said "At the roundabout, take the second exit."
>>> 
>>> This app is great to find directions in large open spaces. If you have a 
>>> guide dog and like having nice refreshing walks together, this app opens 
>>> new horizons to you and your friend. You can just walk freely in any open 
>>> area and ask the app to guide you back to your point of origin.
>>> 
>>> Cheers!
>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>> 
 But as i understand it, you have to put in your own points and stuff 
 yourself, this is why i never used loadstone, because if you hadn't made 
 points yourself or if there weren't readymade maps, made by users  it was 
 as good as useless. Call me lazy if you will, but i'd much rather prefer 
 walking a readymade rout to learn it than first have to build the route 
 then learn it.
 /Krister
 
 18 jan 2012 kl. 18:33 skrev Emrah:
 
> It is not a turn by turn app, but can almost sound like one if you set up 
> your points right.
> 
> If the app tells you your destination is at 3 o'clock and you are at the 
> corner of 2 streets, you logically make a right. If it says it's at 2 
> o'clock, you can still make a right, and most likely turn left at the 
> next intersection.
> 
> Best,
> Emrah
> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Thanks.
>> It opened up in safari as well and I was actually able to see and 
>> english description from there.
>> Does this do turn by turn as well or just guide you to a previously set 
>> waypoint.
>> Thanks for sharing this awesome sounding app.
>> 
>> On 2012-01-18, at 12:06 PM, Emrah wrote:
>> 
>>> Matthew,
>>> 
>>> Try accessing the App Store description directly from your iPHone.
>>> 
>>> I think the main difference is the ability to load OpenStreet points.
>>> 
>>> Emrah
>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>> 
 Hi.
 What is the differences between the light and the classic versions? 
 I'd read the App store description if I could but it's all in german.
 Thanks.
 
 On 2012-01-18, at 11:19 AM, Emrah wrote:
 
> Guys,
> 
> First of, please let me clarify that I have not been endorsed or 
> compensated in anyway for spreading the word about this app. I am 
> just super excited about it. :)
> 
> I just heard that the Swiss Federation for the Blind have developed 
> an App that works like the legendary Loadstone on Nokia phones.
> 
> This is a gigantic breakthrough in my opinion, here is why.
> 
> 1. You can set up arbitrary location points. For instance, you can 
> create a point at the entrance of your favorite park or forest when 
> you walk your dog.
> 2. Walk away as freely as you want.
> 3. Ask your iPHon

Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-19 Thread M. Taylor
Yes, 

Please record a podcast.  That would be most considerate.

Mark
On Jan 19, 2012, at 9:06 AM, Emrah wrote:

> As the phone uses the compass, you must hold the phone horizontally to get 
> directional infos.
> You must label the points if you want the kind of infos I wrote in my 
> previous email.
> 
> If you guys are interested, I'd be happy to record a podcast about it.
> 
> Regards,
> Emrah
> On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:36 PM, Bill Holton wrote:
> 
>> E.g.: Corner of 43rd Street and 5th Avenue, 50 meters at 12 o'clock.
>> How did you get it to do this?
>> I only get distance to way point.  Or did you create a way point and name it
>> this?
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Emrah
>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:32 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone
>> 
>> It uses the compass, so you always know how you are situated in relation to
>> your next landmark.
>> 
>> It will announce the distance and the direction to your landmark every 5
>> seconds and so as you walk.
>> 
>> E.g.: Corner of 43rd Street and 5th Avenue, 50 meters at 12 o'clock.
>> 
>> This is at least 3 times more accurate than any other pedestrian solution.
>> Turn by turn can only give you 4 directional instructions: west, east, north
>> and south, or, Turn Left, right, go forward or make a U-Turn.
>> 
>> This kind of places your landmark on a gigantic clock and tells you where it
>> is situated in relation to your current position. It splits 360 degrees in
>> 12 directional instructions, not 4.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Emrah
>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> 
>>> What type of instructions does it give, i mean does it only tell you how
>> far it is to the landmark you set up?
>>> Anything else to note about it?
>>> /Krister
>>> 19 jan 2012 kl. 15:46 skrev Emrah:
>>> 
>>>> Krister, there is no programming involved when it comes to creating
>> points along the way to your destination.
>>>> 
>>>> You ask someone to guide you once, and when you feel like you should set
>> up a landmark somewhere, you just shake your phone and label the point.
>>>> If the next landmark you set up is located 80 meters at 3 o'clock from
>> you previous landmark, the app will automatically tell you where it is. It
>> is not up to you to set up direction information. You just shake it up and
>> walk. Lol.
>>>> 
>>>> E
>>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> But before the app can guide you back to your destination, or for that
>> matter anywhere else, you actually have to draw a map yourself of the way
>> you want to go, as far as i understand the loadstone concept, and i could be
>> totally wrong here, but i want to have maps drawn for me and then follow
>> them, i don't want to go fumbling around in foreign teritories and then try
>> drawing up some kind of map especially not if you have to provide lat and
>> long coordinates yourself. As i said earlier call me lazy but and this is
>> why i don't like opensource at all, i want a program that's ready and that
>> works, i don't want to make the program myself, because i am an idiot when
>> it comes to programming in any shape or form. I just want the thing to work.
>> I'll gladly leave programming, map drawing and other such stuff to the
>> experts, the knowledgeable ones.
>>>>> /Krister
>>>>> 
>>>>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 22:06 skrev Emrah:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is definitely not an app where you can input an address and expect
>> to be guided to it. I would love to find an app that would work well with
>> VoiceOver and provide accurate pedestrian navigation instructions.
>>>>>> Last time I used Navigon in pedestrian mode, I felt like an idiot when
>> it said "At the roundabout, take the second exit."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This app is great to find directions in large open spaces. If you have
>> a guide dog and like having nice refreshing walks together, this app opens
>> new horizons to you and your friend. You can just walk freely in any open
>> area and ask the app to guide you back to your point of origin.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2

Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-19 Thread Emrah
The paid version lets you exchange points with other users and load OpenStreet 
maps.
I have never used OpenStreet maps and do not exactly know how they work.

Emrah
On Jan 19, 2012, at 6:28 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

> Any idea what the paid version does the light doesn't?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Emrah
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:06 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone
> 
> As the phone uses the compass, you must hold the phone horizontally to get
> directional infos.
> You must label the points if you want the kind of infos I wrote in my
> previous email.
> 
> If you guys are interested, I'd be happy to record a podcast about it.
> 
> Regards,
> Emrah
> On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:36 PM, Bill Holton wrote:
> 
>> E.g.: Corner of 43rd Street and 5th Avenue, 50 meters at 12 o'clock.
>> How did you get it to do this?
>> I only get distance to way point.  Or did you create a way point and name
> it
>> this?
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Emrah
>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:32 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone
>> 
>> It uses the compass, so you always know how you are situated in relation
> to
>> your next landmark.
>> 
>> It will announce the distance and the direction to your landmark every 5
>> seconds and so as you walk.
>> 
>> E.g.: Corner of 43rd Street and 5th Avenue, 50 meters at 12 o'clock.
>> 
>> This is at least 3 times more accurate than any other pedestrian solution.
>> Turn by turn can only give you 4 directional instructions: west, east,
> north
>> and south, or, Turn Left, right, go forward or make a U-Turn.
>> 
>> This kind of places your landmark on a gigantic clock and tells you where
> it
>> is situated in relation to your current position. It splits 360 degrees in
>> 12 directional instructions, not 4.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Emrah
>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> 
>>> What type of instructions does it give, i mean does it only tell you how
>> far it is to the landmark you set up?
>>> Anything else to note about it?
>>> /Krister
>>> 19 jan 2012 kl. 15:46 skrev Emrah:
>>> 
>>>> Krister, there is no programming involved when it comes to creating
>> points along the way to your destination.
>>>> 
>>>> You ask someone to guide you once, and when you feel like you should set
>> up a landmark somewhere, you just shake your phone and label the point.
>>>> If the next landmark you set up is located 80 meters at 3 o'clock from
>> you previous landmark, the app will automatically tell you where it is. It
>> is not up to you to set up direction information. You just shake it up and
>> walk. Lol.
>>>> 
>>>> E
>>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> But before the app can guide you back to your destination, or for that
>> matter anywhere else, you actually have to draw a map yourself of the way
>> you want to go, as far as i understand the loadstone concept, and i could
> be
>> totally wrong here, but i want to have maps drawn for me and then follow
>> them, i don't want to go fumbling around in foreign teritories and then
> try
>> drawing up some kind of map especially not if you have to provide lat and
>> long coordinates yourself. As i said earlier call me lazy but and this is
>> why i don't like opensource at all, i want a program that's ready and that
>> works, i don't want to make the program myself, because i am an idiot when
>> it comes to programming in any shape or form. I just want the thing to
> work.
>> I'll gladly leave programming, map drawing and other such stuff to the
>> experts, the knowledgeable ones.
>>>>> /Krister
>>>>> 
>>>>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 22:06 skrev Emrah:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is definitely not an app where you can input an address and
> expect
>> to be guided to it. I would love to find an app that would work well with
>> VoiceOver and provide accurate pedestrian navigation instructions.
>>>>>> Last time I used Navigon in pedestrian mode, I felt like an idiot when
>

RE: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-19 Thread Bill Holton
Any idea what the paid version does the light doesn't?


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Emrah
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:06 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

As the phone uses the compass, you must hold the phone horizontally to get
directional infos.
You must label the points if you want the kind of infos I wrote in my
previous email.

If you guys are interested, I'd be happy to record a podcast about it.

Regards,
Emrah
On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:36 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

> E.g.: Corner of 43rd Street and 5th Avenue, 50 meters at 12 o'clock.
> How did you get it to do this?
> I only get distance to way point.  Or did you create a way point and name
it
> this?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Emrah
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:32 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone
> 
> It uses the compass, so you always know how you are situated in relation
to
> your next landmark.
> 
> It will announce the distance and the direction to your landmark every 5
> seconds and so as you walk.
> 
> E.g.: Corner of 43rd Street and 5th Avenue, 50 meters at 12 o'clock.
> 
> This is at least 3 times more accurate than any other pedestrian solution.
> Turn by turn can only give you 4 directional instructions: west, east,
north
> and south, or, Turn Left, right, go forward or make a U-Turn.
> 
> This kind of places your landmark on a gigantic clock and tells you where
it
> is situated in relation to your current position. It splits 360 degrees in
> 12 directional instructions, not 4.
> 
> Best,
> Emrah
> On Jan 19, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> 
>> What type of instructions does it give, i mean does it only tell you how
> far it is to the landmark you set up?
>> Anything else to note about it?
>> /Krister
>> 19 jan 2012 kl. 15:46 skrev Emrah:
>> 
>>> Krister, there is no programming involved when it comes to creating
> points along the way to your destination.
>>> 
>>> You ask someone to guide you once, and when you feel like you should set
> up a landmark somewhere, you just shake your phone and label the point.
>>> If the next landmark you set up is located 80 meters at 3 o'clock from
> you previous landmark, the app will automatically tell you where it is. It
> is not up to you to set up direction information. You just shake it up and
> walk. Lol.
>>> 
>>> E
>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>> 
>>>> But before the app can guide you back to your destination, or for that
> matter anywhere else, you actually have to draw a map yourself of the way
> you want to go, as far as i understand the loadstone concept, and i could
be
> totally wrong here, but i want to have maps drawn for me and then follow
> them, i don't want to go fumbling around in foreign teritories and then
try
> drawing up some kind of map especially not if you have to provide lat and
> long coordinates yourself. As i said earlier call me lazy but and this is
> why i don't like opensource at all, i want a program that's ready and that
> works, i don't want to make the program myself, because i am an idiot when
> it comes to programming in any shape or form. I just want the thing to
work.
> I'll gladly leave programming, map drawing and other such stuff to the
> experts, the knowledgeable ones.
>>>> /Krister
>>>> 
>>>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 22:06 skrev Emrah:
>>>> 
>>>>> This is definitely not an app where you can input an address and
expect
> to be guided to it. I would love to find an app that would work well with
> VoiceOver and provide accurate pedestrian navigation instructions.
>>>>> Last time I used Navigon in pedestrian mode, I felt like an idiot when
> it said "At the roundabout, take the second exit."
>>>>> 
>>>>> This app is great to find directions in large open spaces. If you have
> a guide dog and like having nice refreshing walks together, this app opens
> new horizons to you and your friend. You can just walk freely in any open
> area and ask the app to guide you back to your point of origin.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> But as i understand it, you have to put in your own points and stuff
>

Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-19 Thread Emrah
As the phone uses the compass, you must hold the phone horizontally to get 
directional infos.
You must label the points if you want the kind of infos I wrote in my previous 
email.

If you guys are interested, I'd be happy to record a podcast about it.

Regards,
Emrah
On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:36 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

> E.g.: Corner of 43rd Street and 5th Avenue, 50 meters at 12 o'clock.
> How did you get it to do this?
> I only get distance to way point.  Or did you create a way point and name it
> this?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Emrah
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:32 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone
> 
> It uses the compass, so you always know how you are situated in relation to
> your next landmark.
> 
> It will announce the distance and the direction to your landmark every 5
> seconds and so as you walk.
> 
> E.g.: Corner of 43rd Street and 5th Avenue, 50 meters at 12 o'clock.
> 
> This is at least 3 times more accurate than any other pedestrian solution.
> Turn by turn can only give you 4 directional instructions: west, east, north
> and south, or, Turn Left, right, go forward or make a U-Turn.
> 
> This kind of places your landmark on a gigantic clock and tells you where it
> is situated in relation to your current position. It splits 360 degrees in
> 12 directional instructions, not 4.
> 
> Best,
> Emrah
> On Jan 19, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> 
>> What type of instructions does it give, i mean does it only tell you how
> far it is to the landmark you set up?
>> Anything else to note about it?
>> /Krister
>> 19 jan 2012 kl. 15:46 skrev Emrah:
>> 
>>> Krister, there is no programming involved when it comes to creating
> points along the way to your destination.
>>> 
>>> You ask someone to guide you once, and when you feel like you should set
> up a landmark somewhere, you just shake your phone and label the point.
>>> If the next landmark you set up is located 80 meters at 3 o'clock from
> you previous landmark, the app will automatically tell you where it is. It
> is not up to you to set up direction information. You just shake it up and
> walk. Lol.
>>> 
>>> E
>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>> 
>>>> But before the app can guide you back to your destination, or for that
> matter anywhere else, you actually have to draw a map yourself of the way
> you want to go, as far as i understand the loadstone concept, and i could be
> totally wrong here, but i want to have maps drawn for me and then follow
> them, i don't want to go fumbling around in foreign teritories and then try
> drawing up some kind of map especially not if you have to provide lat and
> long coordinates yourself. As i said earlier call me lazy but and this is
> why i don't like opensource at all, i want a program that's ready and that
> works, i don't want to make the program myself, because i am an idiot when
> it comes to programming in any shape or form. I just want the thing to work.
> I'll gladly leave programming, map drawing and other such stuff to the
> experts, the knowledgeable ones.
>>>> /Krister
>>>> 
>>>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 22:06 skrev Emrah:
>>>> 
>>>>> This is definitely not an app where you can input an address and expect
> to be guided to it. I would love to find an app that would work well with
> VoiceOver and provide accurate pedestrian navigation instructions.
>>>>> Last time I used Navigon in pedestrian mode, I felt like an idiot when
> it said "At the roundabout, take the second exit."
>>>>> 
>>>>> This app is great to find directions in large open spaces. If you have
> a guide dog and like having nice refreshing walks together, this app opens
> new horizons to you and your friend. You can just walk freely in any open
> area and ask the app to guide you back to your point of origin.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> But as i understand it, you have to put in your own points and stuff
> yourself, this is why i never used loadstone, because if you hadn't made
> points yourself or if there weren't readymade maps, made by users  it was as
> good as useless. Call me lazy if you will, but i'd much rather prefer
> walking a readymade rout to learn it than first have to build the r

RE: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-19 Thread Bill Holton
E.g.: Corner of 43rd Street and 5th Avenue, 50 meters at 12 o'clock.
How did you get it to do this?
I only get distance to way point.  Or did you create a way point and name it
this?


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Emrah
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:32 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

It uses the compass, so you always know how you are situated in relation to
your next landmark.

It will announce the distance and the direction to your landmark every 5
seconds and so as you walk.

E.g.: Corner of 43rd Street and 5th Avenue, 50 meters at 12 o'clock.

This is at least 3 times more accurate than any other pedestrian solution.
Turn by turn can only give you 4 directional instructions: west, east, north
and south, or, Turn Left, right, go forward or make a U-Turn.

This kind of places your landmark on a gigantic clock and tells you where it
is situated in relation to your current position. It splits 360 degrees in
12 directional instructions, not 4.

Best,
Emrah
On Jan 19, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

> What type of instructions does it give, i mean does it only tell you how
far it is to the landmark you set up?
> Anything else to note about it?
> /Krister
> 19 jan 2012 kl. 15:46 skrev Emrah:
> 
>> Krister, there is no programming involved when it comes to creating
points along the way to your destination.
>> 
>> You ask someone to guide you once, and when you feel like you should set
up a landmark somewhere, you just shake your phone and label the point.
>> If the next landmark you set up is located 80 meters at 3 o'clock from
you previous landmark, the app will automatically tell you where it is. It
is not up to you to set up direction information. You just shake it up and
walk. Lol.
>> 
>> E
>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> 
>>> But before the app can guide you back to your destination, or for that
matter anywhere else, you actually have to draw a map yourself of the way
you want to go, as far as i understand the loadstone concept, and i could be
totally wrong here, but i want to have maps drawn for me and then follow
them, i don't want to go fumbling around in foreign teritories and then try
drawing up some kind of map especially not if you have to provide lat and
long coordinates yourself. As i said earlier call me lazy but and this is
why i don't like opensource at all, i want a program that's ready and that
works, i don't want to make the program myself, because i am an idiot when
it comes to programming in any shape or form. I just want the thing to work.
I'll gladly leave programming, map drawing and other such stuff to the
experts, the knowledgeable ones.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 22:06 skrev Emrah:
>>> 
>>>> This is definitely not an app where you can input an address and expect
to be guided to it. I would love to find an app that would work well with
VoiceOver and provide accurate pedestrian navigation instructions.
>>>> Last time I used Navigon in pedestrian mode, I felt like an idiot when
it said "At the roundabout, take the second exit."
>>>> 
>>>> This app is great to find directions in large open spaces. If you have
a guide dog and like having nice refreshing walks together, this app opens
new horizons to you and your friend. You can just walk freely in any open
area and ask the app to guide you back to your point of origin.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> But as i understand it, you have to put in your own points and stuff
yourself, this is why i never used loadstone, because if you hadn't made
points yourself or if there weren't readymade maps, made by users  it was as
good as useless. Call me lazy if you will, but i'd much rather prefer
walking a readymade rout to learn it than first have to build the route then
learn it.
>>>>> /Krister
>>>>> 
>>>>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 18:33 skrev Emrah:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is not a turn by turn app, but can almost sound like one if you
set up your points right.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If the app tells you your destination is at 3 o'clock and you are at
the corner of 2 streets, you logically make a right. If it says it's at 2
o'clock, you can still make a right, and most likely turn left at the next
intersection.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Emrah
>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>>&

Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-19 Thread Emrah
It uses the compass, so you always know how you are situated in relation to 
your next landmark.

It will announce the distance and the direction to your landmark every 5 
seconds and so as you walk.

E.g.: Corner of 43rd Street and 5th Avenue, 50 meters at 12 o'clock.

This is at least 3 times more accurate than any other pedestrian solution. Turn 
by turn can only give you 4 directional instructions: west, east, north and 
south, or, Turn Left, right, go forward or make a U-Turn.

This kind of places your landmark on a gigantic clock and tells you where it is 
situated in relation to your current position. It splits 360 degrees in 12 
directional instructions, not 4.

Best,
Emrah
On Jan 19, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

> What type of instructions does it give, i mean does it only tell you how far 
> it is to the landmark you set up?
> Anything else to note about it?
> /Krister
> 19 jan 2012 kl. 15:46 skrev Emrah:
> 
>> Krister, there is no programming involved when it comes to creating points 
>> along the way to your destination.
>> 
>> You ask someone to guide you once, and when you feel like you should set up 
>> a landmark somewhere, you just shake your phone and label the point.
>> If the next landmark you set up is located 80 meters at 3 o'clock from you 
>> previous landmark, the app will automatically tell you where it is. It is 
>> not up to you to set up direction information. You just shake it up and 
>> walk. Lol.
>> 
>> E
>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> 
>>> But before the app can guide you back to your destination, or for that 
>>> matter anywhere else, you actually have to draw a map yourself of the way 
>>> you want to go, as far as i understand the loadstone concept, and i could 
>>> be totally wrong here, but i want to have maps drawn for me and then follow 
>>> them, i don't want to go fumbling around in foreign teritories and then try 
>>> drawing up some kind of map especially not if you have to provide lat and 
>>> long coordinates yourself. As i said earlier call me lazy but and this is 
>>> why i don't like opensource at all, i want a program that's ready and that 
>>> works, i don't want to make the program myself, because i am an idiot when 
>>> it comes to programming in any shape or form. I just want the thing to 
>>> work. I'll gladly leave programming, map drawing and other such stuff to 
>>> the experts, the knowledgeable ones.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 22:06 skrev Emrah:
>>> 
 This is definitely not an app where you can input an address and expect to 
 be guided to it. I would love to find an app that would work well with 
 VoiceOver and provide accurate pedestrian navigation instructions.
 Last time I used Navigon in pedestrian mode, I felt like an idiot when it 
 said "At the roundabout, take the second exit."
 
 This app is great to find directions in large open spaces. If you have a 
 guide dog and like having nice refreshing walks together, this app opens 
 new horizons to you and your friend. You can just walk freely in any open 
 area and ask the app to guide you back to your point of origin.
 
 Cheers!
 On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
 
> But as i understand it, you have to put in your own points and stuff 
> yourself, this is why i never used loadstone, because if you hadn't made 
> points yourself or if there weren't readymade maps, made by users  it was 
> as good as useless. Call me lazy if you will, but i'd much rather prefer 
> walking a readymade rout to learn it than first have to build the route 
> then learn it.
> /Krister
> 
> 18 jan 2012 kl. 18:33 skrev Emrah:
> 
>> It is not a turn by turn app, but can almost sound like one if you set 
>> up your points right.
>> 
>> If the app tells you your destination is at 3 o'clock and you are at the 
>> corner of 2 streets, you logically make a right. If it says it's at 2 
>> o'clock, you can still make a right, and most likely turn left at the 
>> next intersection.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Emrah
>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> It opened up in safari as well and I was actually able to see and 
>>> english description from there.
>>> Does this do turn by turn as well or just guide you to a previously set 
>>> waypoint.
>>> Thanks for sharing this awesome sounding app.
>>> 
>>> On 2012-01-18, at 12:06 PM, Emrah wrote:
>>> 
 Matthew,
 
 Try accessing the App Store description directly from your iPHone.
 
 I think the main difference is the ability to load OpenStreet points.
 
 Emrah
 On Jan 18, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
 
> Hi.
> What is the differences between the light and the classic versions? 
> I'd read the App store d

Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-19 Thread Krister Ekstrom
What type of instructions does it give, i mean does it only tell you how far it 
is to the landmark you set up?
Anything else to note about it?
/Krister
19 jan 2012 kl. 15:46 skrev Emrah:

> Krister, there is no programming involved when it comes to creating points 
> along the way to your destination.
> 
> You ask someone to guide you once, and when you feel like you should set up a 
> landmark somewhere, you just shake your phone and label the point.
> If the next landmark you set up is located 80 meters at 3 o'clock from you 
> previous landmark, the app will automatically tell you where it is. It is not 
> up to you to set up direction information. You just shake it up and walk. Lol.
> 
> E
> On Jan 19, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> 
>> But before the app can guide you back to your destination, or for that 
>> matter anywhere else, you actually have to draw a map yourself of the way 
>> you want to go, as far as i understand the loadstone concept, and i could be 
>> totally wrong here, but i want to have maps drawn for me and then follow 
>> them, i don't want to go fumbling around in foreign teritories and then try 
>> drawing up some kind of map especially not if you have to provide lat and 
>> long coordinates yourself. As i said earlier call me lazy but and this is 
>> why i don't like opensource at all, i want a program that's ready and that 
>> works, i don't want to make the program myself, because i am an idiot when 
>> it comes to programming in any shape or form. I just want the thing to work. 
>> I'll gladly leave programming, map drawing and other such stuff to the 
>> experts, the knowledgeable ones.
>> /Krister
>> 
>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 22:06 skrev Emrah:
>> 
>>> This is definitely not an app where you can input an address and expect to 
>>> be guided to it. I would love to find an app that would work well with 
>>> VoiceOver and provide accurate pedestrian navigation instructions.
>>> Last time I used Navigon in pedestrian mode, I felt like an idiot when it 
>>> said "At the roundabout, take the second exit."
>>> 
>>> This app is great to find directions in large open spaces. If you have a 
>>> guide dog and like having nice refreshing walks together, this app opens 
>>> new horizons to you and your friend. You can just walk freely in any open 
>>> area and ask the app to guide you back to your point of origin.
>>> 
>>> Cheers!
>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>> 
 But as i understand it, you have to put in your own points and stuff 
 yourself, this is why i never used loadstone, because if you hadn't made 
 points yourself or if there weren't readymade maps, made by users  it was 
 as good as useless. Call me lazy if you will, but i'd much rather prefer 
 walking a readymade rout to learn it than first have to build the route 
 then learn it.
 /Krister
 
 18 jan 2012 kl. 18:33 skrev Emrah:
 
> It is not a turn by turn app, but can almost sound like one if you set up 
> your points right.
> 
> If the app tells you your destination is at 3 o'clock and you are at the 
> corner of 2 streets, you logically make a right. If it says it's at 2 
> o'clock, you can still make a right, and most likely turn left at the 
> next intersection.
> 
> Best,
> Emrah
> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Thanks.
>> It opened up in safari as well and I was actually able to see and 
>> english description from there.
>> Does this do turn by turn as well or just guide you to a previously set 
>> waypoint.
>> Thanks for sharing this awesome sounding app.
>> 
>> On 2012-01-18, at 12:06 PM, Emrah wrote:
>> 
>>> Matthew,
>>> 
>>> Try accessing the App Store description directly from your iPHone.
>>> 
>>> I think the main difference is the ability to load OpenStreet points.
>>> 
>>> Emrah
>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>> 
 Hi.
 What is the differences between the light and the classic versions? 
 I'd read the App store description if I could but it's all in german.
 Thanks.
 
 On 2012-01-18, at 11:19 AM, Emrah wrote:
 
> Guys,
> 
> First of, please let me clarify that I have not been endorsed or 
> compensated in anyway for spreading the word about this app. I am 
> just super excited about it. :)
> 
> I just heard that the Swiss Federation for the Blind have developed 
> an App that works like the legendary Loadstone on Nokia phones.
> 
> This is a gigantic breakthrough in my opinion, here is why.
> 
> 1. You can set up arbitrary location points. For instance, you can 
> create a point at the entrance of your favorite park or forest when 
> you walk your dog.
> 2. Walk away as freely as you want.
>>

Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-19 Thread Emrah
Krister, there is no programming involved when it comes to creating points 
along the way to your destination.

You ask someone to guide you once, and when you feel like you should set up a 
landmark somewhere, you just shake your phone and label the point.
If the next landmark you set up is located 80 meters at 3 o'clock from you 
previous landmark, the app will automatically tell you where it is. It is not 
up to you to set up direction information. You just shake it up and walk. Lol.

E
On Jan 19, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

> But before the app can guide you back to your destination, or for that matter 
> anywhere else, you actually have to draw a map yourself of the way you want 
> to go, as far as i understand the loadstone concept, and i could be totally 
> wrong here, but i want to have maps drawn for me and then follow them, i 
> don't want to go fumbling around in foreign teritories and then try drawing 
> up some kind of map especially not if you have to provide lat and long 
> coordinates yourself. As i said earlier call me lazy but and this is why i 
> don't like opensource at all, i want a program that's ready and that works, i 
> don't want to make the program myself, because i am an idiot when it comes to 
> programming in any shape or form. I just want the thing to work. I'll gladly 
> leave programming, map drawing and other such stuff to the experts, the 
> knowledgeable ones.
> /Krister
> 
> 18 jan 2012 kl. 22:06 skrev Emrah:
> 
>> This is definitely not an app where you can input an address and expect to 
>> be guided to it. I would love to find an app that would work well with 
>> VoiceOver and provide accurate pedestrian navigation instructions.
>> Last time I used Navigon in pedestrian mode, I felt like an idiot when it 
>> said "At the roundabout, take the second exit."
>> 
>> This app is great to find directions in large open spaces. If you have a 
>> guide dog and like having nice refreshing walks together, this app opens new 
>> horizons to you and your friend. You can just walk freely in any open area 
>> and ask the app to guide you back to your point of origin.
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> 
>>> But as i understand it, you have to put in your own points and stuff 
>>> yourself, this is why i never used loadstone, because if you hadn't made 
>>> points yourself or if there weren't readymade maps, made by users  it was 
>>> as good as useless. Call me lazy if you will, but i'd much rather prefer 
>>> walking a readymade rout to learn it than first have to build the route 
>>> then learn it.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 18:33 skrev Emrah:
>>> 
 It is not a turn by turn app, but can almost sound like one if you set up 
 your points right.
 
 If the app tells you your destination is at 3 o'clock and you are at the 
 corner of 2 streets, you logically make a right. If it says it's at 2 
 o'clock, you can still make a right, and most likely turn left at the next 
 intersection.
 
 Best,
 Emrah
 On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
 
> Thanks.
> It opened up in safari as well and I was actually able to see and english 
> description from there.
> Does this do turn by turn as well or just guide you to a previously set 
> waypoint.
> Thanks for sharing this awesome sounding app.
> 
> On 2012-01-18, at 12:06 PM, Emrah wrote:
> 
>> Matthew,
>> 
>> Try accessing the App Store description directly from your iPHone.
>> 
>> I think the main difference is the ability to load OpenStreet points.
>> 
>> Emrah
>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> What is the differences between the light and the classic versions? I'd 
>>> read the App store description if I could but it's all in german.
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> On 2012-01-18, at 11:19 AM, Emrah wrote:
>>> 
 Guys,
 
 First of, please let me clarify that I have not been endorsed or 
 compensated in anyway for spreading the word about this app. I am just 
 super excited about it. :)
 
 I just heard that the Swiss Federation for the Blind have developed an 
 App that works like the legendary Loadstone on Nokia phones.
 
 This is a gigantic breakthrough in my opinion, here is why.
 
 1. You can set up arbitrary location points. For instance, you can 
 create a point at the entrance of your favorite park or forest when 
 you walk your dog.
 2. Walk away as freely as you want.
 3. Ask your iPHone to guide you back to your original point.
 4. Your iPhone will guide you with instructions like "Your point is 
 200 yards at 12 o'clock."
 
 Now guys, these are assumptions based on my past user experience with 
 Loadstone GPS. Actual dat

Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-19 Thread Gigi
Hi Ricardo
Yes, I know that the app does not give turn by turn directions. I would except 
that if it did, trust me. However, the verbal directions that are written out 
are incomplete. Because as far as I can see, there is no way to get it written 
out the directions Eagertho go to the bus stop or what to do after you get off. 
Now, the good thing is, at least the app assumes that if sign people had to put 
up with the things we have to put up with for GPS programs, they would be using 
paper maps. Just my two cents on the subject.
 Regards
Gig ithat you might want to ride the bus. I really think

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 19, 2012, at 6:09 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> But the maps app doesn't give turn by turn directions while traveling.  It 
> just gives a list of directions.  You need to by an app with spoken turn by 
> turn directions like, Navigon, Tom Tom, or motion GPS drive..
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Jan 19, 2012, at 6:05 AM, Gigi wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys
>> I haven't followed too closely on this thread, because I wasn't sure that I 
>> could make any intelligent comments. However, I would like to say that I 
>> really wish somebody would develop better a GPS for us! Last night, I was 
>> messing with the GPS on the iPhone. You know, the one that comes with it. I 
>> got Siri to put in the address because my husband had it on his iPhone. Of 
>> course, it brought up the map and I chose Gaubert by bus. The problem is as 
>> you know, the app tells you to walk to the bus stop and probably shows a map 
>> of doing that. However, it also tells you to walk to your destination after 
>> you get off the bus stop, giving no details of how to get there, at least I 
>> couldn't figure out any verbally.
>> Me and my seeing-eye dog have been traveling around for 42 years 
>> successfully. However, the last thing I need is complications on mobility 
>> with dealing with the computer. Therefore I am the kind of person that would 
>> keep a developer in business. I don't want to even want to look at a map! 
>> Regards Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 3:39 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> But before the app can guide you back to your destination, or for that 
>>> matter anywhere else, you actually have to draw a map yourself of the way 
>>> you want to go, as far as i understand the loadstone concept, and i could 
>>> be totally wrong here, but i want to have maps drawn for me and then follow 
>>> them, i don't want to go fumbling around in foreign teritories and then try 
>>> drawing up some kind of map especially not if you have to provide lat and 
>>> long coordinates yourself. As i said earlier call me lazy but and this is 
>>> why i don't like opensource at all, i want a program that's ready and that 
>>> works, i don't want to make the program myself, because i am an idiot when 
>>> it comes to programming in any shape or form. I just want the thing to 
>>> work. I'll gladly leave programming, map drawing and other such stuff to 
>>> the experts, the knowledgeable ones.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 22:06 skrev Emrah:
>>> 
 This is definitely not an app where you can input an address and expect to 
 be guided to it. I would love to find an app that would work well with 
 VoiceOver and provide accurate pedestrian navigation instructions.
 Last time I used Navigon in pedestrian mode, I felt like an idiot when it 
 said "At the roundabout, take the second exit."
 
 This app is great to find directions in large open spaces. If you have a 
 guide dog and like having nice refreshing walks together, this app opens 
 new horizons to you and your friend. You can just walk freely in any open 
 area and ask the app to guide you back to your point of origin.
 
 Cheers!
 On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
 
> But as i understand it, you have to put in your own points and stuff 
> yourself, this is why i never used loadstone, because if you hadn't made 
> points yourself or if there weren't readymade maps, made by users  it was 
> as good as useless. Call me lazy if you will, but i'd much rather prefer 
> walking a readymade rout to learn it than first have to build the route 
> then learn it.
> /Krister
> 
> 18 jan 2012 kl. 18:33 skrev Emrah:
> 
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Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-19 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

But the maps app doesn't give turn by turn directions while traveling.  It just 
gives a list of directions.  You need to by an app with spoken turn by turn 
directions like, Navigon, Tom Tom, or motion GPS drive..

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Jan 19, 2012, at 6:05 AM, Gigi wrote:

> Hi guys
> I haven't followed too closely on this thread, because I wasn't sure that I 
> could make any intelligent comments. However, I would like to say that I 
> really wish somebody would develop better a GPS for us! Last night, I was 
> messing with the GPS on the iPhone. You know, the one that comes with it. I 
> got Siri to put in the address because my husband had it on his iPhone. Of 
> course, it brought up the map and I chose Gaubert by bus. The problem is as 
> you know, the app tells you to walk to the bus stop and probably shows a map 
> of doing that. However, it also tells you to walk to your destination after 
> you get off the bus stop, giving no details of how to get there, at least I 
> couldn't figure out any verbally.
> Me and my seeing-eye dog have been traveling around for 42 years 
> successfully. However, the last thing I need is complications on mobility 
> with dealing with the computer. Therefore I am the kind of person that would 
> keep a developer in business. I don't want to even want to look at a map! 
> Regards Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 19, 2012, at 3:39 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
> wrote:
> 
>> But before the app can guide you back to your destination, or for that 
>> matter anywhere else, you actually have to draw a map yourself of the way 
>> you want to go, as far as i understand the loadstone concept, and i could be 
>> totally wrong here, but i want to have maps drawn for me and then follow 
>> them, i don't want to go fumbling around in foreign teritories and then try 
>> drawing up some kind of map especially not if you have to provide lat and 
>> long coordinates yourself. As i said earlier call me lazy but and this is 
>> why i don't like opensource at all, i want a program that's ready and that 
>> works, i don't want to make the program myself, because i am an idiot when 
>> it comes to programming in any shape or form. I just want the thing to work. 
>> I'll gladly leave programming, map drawing and other such stuff to the 
>> experts, the knowledgeable ones.
>> /Krister
>> 
>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 22:06 skrev Emrah:
>> 
>>> This is definitely not an app where you can input an address and expect to 
>>> be guided to it. I would love to find an app that would work well with 
>>> VoiceOver and provide accurate pedestrian navigation instructions.
>>> Last time I used Navigon in pedestrian mode, I felt like an idiot when it 
>>> said "At the roundabout, take the second exit."
>>> 
>>> This app is great to find directions in large open spaces. If you have a 
>>> guide dog and like having nice refreshing walks together, this app opens 
>>> new horizons to you and your friend. You can just walk freely in any open 
>>> area and ask the app to guide you back to your point of origin.
>>> 
>>> Cheers!
>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>> 
 But as i understand it, you have to put in your own points and stuff 
 yourself, this is why i never used loadstone, because if you hadn't made 
 points yourself or if there weren't readymade maps, made by users  it was 
 as good as useless. Call me lazy if you will, but i'd much rather prefer 
 walking a readymade rout to learn it than first have to build the route 
 then learn it.
 /Krister
 
 18 jan 2012 kl. 18:33 skrev Emrah:
 
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Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-19 Thread Gigi
Hi guys
I haven't followed too closely on this thread, because I wasn't sure that I 
could make any intelligent comments. However, I would like to say that I really 
wish somebody would develop better a GPS for us! Last night, I was messing with 
the GPS on the iPhone. You know, the one that comes with it. I got Siri to put 
in the address because my husband had it on his iPhone. Of course, it brought 
up the map and I chose Gaubert by bus. The problem is as you know, the app 
tells you to walk to the bus stop and probably shows a map of doing that. 
However, it also tells you to walk to your destination after you get off the 
bus stop, giving no details of how to get there, at least I couldn't figure out 
any verbally.
Me and my seeing-eye dog have been traveling around for 42 years successfully. 
However, the last thing I need is complications on mobility with dealing with 
the computer. Therefore I am the kind of person that would keep a developer in 
business. I don't want to even want to look at a map! Regards Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 19, 2012, at 3:39 AM, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:

> But before the app can guide you back to your destination, or for that matter 
> anywhere else, you actually have to draw a map yourself of the way you want 
> to go, as far as i understand the loadstone concept, and i could be totally 
> wrong here, but i want to have maps drawn for me and then follow them, i 
> don't want to go fumbling around in foreign teritories and then try drawing 
> up some kind of map especially not if you have to provide lat and long 
> coordinates yourself. As i said earlier call me lazy but and this is why i 
> don't like opensource at all, i want a program that's ready and that works, i 
> don't want to make the program myself, because i am an idiot when it comes to 
> programming in any shape or form. I just want the thing to work. I'll gladly 
> leave programming, map drawing and other such stuff to the experts, the 
> knowledgeable ones.
> /Krister
> 
> 18 jan 2012 kl. 22:06 skrev Emrah:
> 
>> This is definitely not an app where you can input an address and expect to 
>> be guided to it. I would love to find an app that would work well with 
>> VoiceOver and provide accurate pedestrian navigation instructions.
>> Last time I used Navigon in pedestrian mode, I felt like an idiot when it 
>> said "At the roundabout, take the second exit."
>> 
>> This app is great to find directions in large open spaces. If you have a 
>> guide dog and like having nice refreshing walks together, this app opens new 
>> horizons to you and your friend. You can just walk freely in any open area 
>> and ask the app to guide you back to your point of origin.
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> 
>>> But as i understand it, you have to put in your own points and stuff 
>>> yourself, this is why i never used loadstone, because if you hadn't made 
>>> points yourself or if there weren't readymade maps, made by users  it was 
>>> as good as useless. Call me lazy if you will, but i'd much rather prefer 
>>> walking a readymade rout to learn it than first have to build the route 
>>> then learn it.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 18:33 skrev Emrah:
>>> 

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Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-19 Thread Krister Ekstrom
But before the app can guide you back to your destination, or for that matter 
anywhere else, you actually have to draw a map yourself of the way you want to 
go, as far as i understand the loadstone concept, and i could be totally wrong 
here, but i want to have maps drawn for me and then follow them, i don't want 
to go fumbling around in foreign teritories and then try drawing up some kind 
of map especially not if you have to provide lat and long coordinates yourself. 
As i said earlier call me lazy but and this is why i don't like opensource at 
all, i want a program that's ready and that works, i don't want to make the 
program myself, because i am an idiot when it comes to programming in any shape 
or form. I just want the thing to work. I'll gladly leave programming, map 
drawing and other such stuff to the experts, the knowledgeable ones.
/Krister

18 jan 2012 kl. 22:06 skrev Emrah:

> This is definitely not an app where you can input an address and expect to be 
> guided to it. I would love to find an app that would work well with VoiceOver 
> and provide accurate pedestrian navigation instructions.
> Last time I used Navigon in pedestrian mode, I felt like an idiot when it 
> said "At the roundabout, take the second exit."
> 
> This app is great to find directions in large open spaces. If you have a 
> guide dog and like having nice refreshing walks together, this app opens new 
> horizons to you and your friend. You can just walk freely in any open area 
> and ask the app to guide you back to your point of origin.
> 
> Cheers!
> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> 
>> But as i understand it, you have to put in your own points and stuff 
>> yourself, this is why i never used loadstone, because if you hadn't made 
>> points yourself or if there weren't readymade maps, made by users  it was as 
>> good as useless. Call me lazy if you will, but i'd much rather prefer 
>> walking a readymade rout to learn it than first have to build the route then 
>> learn it.
>> /Krister
>> 
>> 18 jan 2012 kl. 18:33 skrev Emrah:
>> 
>>> It is not a turn by turn app, but can almost sound like one if you set up 
>>> your points right.
>>> 
>>> If the app tells you your destination is at 3 o'clock and you are at the 
>>> corner of 2 streets, you logically make a right. If it says it's at 2 
>>> o'clock, you can still make a right, and most likely turn left at the next 
>>> intersection.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Emrah
>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks.
 It opened up in safari as well and I was actually able to see and english 
 description from there.
 Does this do turn by turn as well or just guide you to a previously set 
 waypoint.
 Thanks for sharing this awesome sounding app.
 
 On 2012-01-18, at 12:06 PM, Emrah wrote:
 
> Matthew,
> 
> Try accessing the App Store description directly from your iPHone.
> 
> I think the main difference is the ability to load OpenStreet points.
> 
> Emrah
> On Jan 18, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> What is the differences between the light and the classic versions? I'd 
>> read the App store description if I could but it's all in german.
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> On 2012-01-18, at 11:19 AM, Emrah wrote:
>> 
>>> Guys,
>>> 
>>> First of, please let me clarify that I have not been endorsed or 
>>> compensated in anyway for spreading the word about this app. I am just 
>>> super excited about it. :)
>>> 
>>> I just heard that the Swiss Federation for the Blind have developed an 
>>> App that works like the legendary Loadstone on Nokia phones.
>>> 
>>> This is a gigantic breakthrough in my opinion, here is why.
>>> 
>>> 1. You can set up arbitrary location points. For instance, you can 
>>> create a point at the entrance of your favorite park or forest when you 
>>> walk your dog.
>>> 2. Walk away as freely as you want.
>>> 3. Ask your iPHone to guide you back to your original point.
>>> 4. Your iPhone will guide you with instructions like "Your point is 200 
>>> yards at 12 o'clock."
>>> 
>>> Now guys, these are assumptions based on my past user experience with 
>>> Loadstone GPS. Actual data and app features may differ.
>>> 
>>> This app is called My Way and it is available on the App Store. Two 
>>> versions are available. My Way Light is free and My Way Classic is 
>>> $19.99 on the US Store.
>>> 
>>> I invite you to check these out under the following links:
>>> 
>>> MyWay Light: 
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-lite/id494516234?mt=8&ls=1
>>> MyWay Classic: 
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-classic/id494282724?mt=8&ls=1
>>> 
>>> Enjoy!
>>> Emrah
>>> 
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Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-18 Thread Emrah
This is definitely not an app where you can input an address and expect to be 
guided to it. I would love to find an app that would work well with VoiceOver 
and provide accurate pedestrian navigation instructions.
Last time I used Navigon in pedestrian mode, I felt like an idiot when it said 
"At the roundabout, take the second exit."

This app is great to find directions in large open spaces. If you have a guide 
dog and like having nice refreshing walks together, this app opens new horizons 
to you and your friend. You can just walk freely in any open area and ask the 
app to guide you back to your point of origin.

Cheers!
On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

> But as i understand it, you have to put in your own points and stuff 
> yourself, this is why i never used loadstone, because if you hadn't made 
> points yourself or if there weren't readymade maps, made by users  it was as 
> good as useless. Call me lazy if you will, but i'd much rather prefer walking 
> a readymade rout to learn it than first have to build the route then learn it.
> /Krister
> 
> 18 jan 2012 kl. 18:33 skrev Emrah:
> 
>> It is not a turn by turn app, but can almost sound like one if you set up 
>> your points right.
>> 
>> If the app tells you your destination is at 3 o'clock and you are at the 
>> corner of 2 streets, you logically make a right. If it says it's at 2 
>> o'clock, you can still make a right, and most likely turn left at the next 
>> intersection.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Emrah
>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> It opened up in safari as well and I was actually able to see and english 
>>> description from there.
>>> Does this do turn by turn as well or just guide you to a previously set 
>>> waypoint.
>>> Thanks for sharing this awesome sounding app.
>>> 
>>> On 2012-01-18, at 12:06 PM, Emrah wrote:
>>> 
 Matthew,
 
 Try accessing the App Store description directly from your iPHone.
 
 I think the main difference is the ability to load OpenStreet points.
 
 Emrah
 On Jan 18, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
 
> Hi.
> What is the differences between the light and the classic versions? I'd 
> read the App store description if I could but it's all in german.
> Thanks.
> 
> On 2012-01-18, at 11:19 AM, Emrah wrote:
> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> First of, please let me clarify that I have not been endorsed or 
>> compensated in anyway for spreading the word about this app. I am just 
>> super excited about it. :)
>> 
>> I just heard that the Swiss Federation for the Blind have developed an 
>> App that works like the legendary Loadstone on Nokia phones.
>> 
>> This is a gigantic breakthrough in my opinion, here is why.
>> 
>> 1. You can set up arbitrary location points. For instance, you can 
>> create a point at the entrance of your favorite park or forest when you 
>> walk your dog.
>> 2. Walk away as freely as you want.
>> 3. Ask your iPHone to guide you back to your original point.
>> 4. Your iPhone will guide you with instructions like "Your point is 200 
>> yards at 12 o'clock."
>> 
>> Now guys, these are assumptions based on my past user experience with 
>> Loadstone GPS. Actual data and app features may differ.
>> 
>> This app is called My Way and it is available on the App Store. Two 
>> versions are available. My Way Light is free and My Way Classic is 
>> $19.99 on the US Store.
>> 
>> I invite you to check these out under the following links:
>> 
>> MyWay Light: http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-lite/id494516234?mt=8&ls=1
>> MyWay Classic: 
>> http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-classic/id494282724?mt=8&ls=1
>> 
>> Enjoy!
>> Emrah
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Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-18 Thread Emrah
Juan,

I did not mean to offend you in any way, sorry if my message may have been 
perceived as somewhat aggressive.
The reason why I replied the way I did is because you just gave your opinion by 
saying that another app was better than this, without any substance or argument 
whatsoever .
Ariadne GPS is a nice app and may suit many users in specific contexts, but I 
had clearly depicted how MyWay could be used and well, your message just did 
not make sense. 
It did not make sense because, although both apps aim to provide valuable 
navigation assistance to the blind and visually impaired, their possible use 
cases are not quite comparable.

They both certainly have their pros and cons. I think I would have understood 
your point of view much better if you had motivated your message a little more, 
just like you did in your last reply.

All the best, enjoy your evening. :)

Emrah
On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:

> Hi, Emrah,
> Sorry. I am only an user. I have not any partner with ariadne debs.
> In other hands, ariadne uses google to retrieve maps information. This app 
> uses Open street map, a repository that in some common countries (brazil) are 
> very poor quality.
> 
> Finally, let me say again the three words that me last e-mail begun "in my 
> opinion"
> 
> All the best.
> -Original Message- From: Emrah
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:02 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone
> 
> You cannot compare both.
> 
> Does Ariadne GPS let you walk free in an open space, like mountains, parks, 
> forests, and then brings you back to your origin point?
> 
> Can you set a destination point in Ariadne GPS and be guided to it with 
> intermediate points to help you recall your position?
> 
> Can you create points of interest e.g.: university buildings on a campus, 
> subway or bus stations, ATMs, benches or picnic spots in a park?
> 
> Can you share points of interest with a community?
> 
> If you are the developer, your app is good, but does not serve the same 
> purpose as Loadstone or MyWay..
> 
> Emrah
> 
> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
> 
>> In my opinion, Ariadne gps make a better work than this.
>> 
>> -----Original Message- From: Emrah
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:33 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone
>> 
>> It is not a turn by turn app, but can almost sound like one if you set up 
>> your points right.
>> 
>> If the app tells you your destination is at 3 o'clock and you are at the 
>> corner of 2 streets, you logically make a right. If it says it's at 2 
>> o'clock, you can still make a right, and most likely turn left at the next 
>> intersection.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Emrah
>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> It opened up in safari as well and I was actually able to see and english 
>>> description from there.
>>> Does this do turn by turn as well or just guide you to a previously set 
>>> waypoint.
>>> Thanks for sharing this awesome sounding app.
>>> 
>>> On 2012-01-18, at 12:06 PM, Emrah wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Matthew,
>>>> 
>>>> Try accessing the App Store description directly from your iPHone.
>>>> 
>>>> I think the main difference is the ability to load OpenStreet points.
>>>> 
>>>> Emrah
>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>> What is the differences between the light and the classic versions? I'd 
>>>>> read the App store description if I could but it's all in german.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2012-01-18, at 11:19 AM, Emrah wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> First of, please let me clarify that I have not been endorsed or 
>>>>>> compensated in anyway for spreading the word about this app. I am just 
>>>>>> super excited about it. :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just heard that the Swiss Federation for the Blind have developed an 
>>>>>> App that works like the legendary Loadstone on Nokia phones.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is a gigantic breakthrough in my opinion, here is why.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. You can set up arbitrary location points. For instance, you can 
>

Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-18 Thread Krister Ekstrom
But as i understand it, you have to put in your own points and stuff yourself, 
this is why i never used loadstone, because if you hadn't made points yourself 
or if there weren't readymade maps, made by users  it was as good as useless. 
Call me lazy if you will, but i'd much rather prefer walking a readymade rout 
to learn it than first have to build the route then learn it.
/Krister

18 jan 2012 kl. 18:33 skrev Emrah:

> It is not a turn by turn app, but can almost sound like one if you set up 
> your points right.
> 
> If the app tells you your destination is at 3 o'clock and you are at the 
> corner of 2 streets, you logically make a right. If it says it's at 2 
> o'clock, you can still make a right, and most likely turn left at the next 
> intersection.
> 
> Best,
> Emrah
> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Thanks.
>> It opened up in safari as well and I was actually able to see and english 
>> description from there.
>> Does this do turn by turn as well or just guide you to a previously set 
>> waypoint.
>> Thanks for sharing this awesome sounding app.
>> 
>> On 2012-01-18, at 12:06 PM, Emrah wrote:
>> 
>>> Matthew,
>>> 
>>> Try accessing the App Store description directly from your iPHone.
>>> 
>>> I think the main difference is the ability to load OpenStreet points.
>>> 
>>> Emrah
>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>> 
 Hi.
 What is the differences between the light and the classic versions? I'd 
 read the App store description if I could but it's all in german.
 Thanks.
 
 On 2012-01-18, at 11:19 AM, Emrah wrote:
 
> Guys,
> 
> First of, please let me clarify that I have not been endorsed or 
> compensated in anyway for spreading the word about this app. I am just 
> super excited about it. :)
> 
> I just heard that the Swiss Federation for the Blind have developed an 
> App that works like the legendary Loadstone on Nokia phones.
> 
> This is a gigantic breakthrough in my opinion, here is why.
> 
> 1. You can set up arbitrary location points. For instance, you can create 
> a point at the entrance of your favorite park or forest when you walk 
> your dog.
> 2. Walk away as freely as you want.
> 3. Ask your iPHone to guide you back to your original point.
> 4. Your iPhone will guide you with instructions like "Your point is 200 
> yards at 12 o'clock."
> 
> Now guys, these are assumptions based on my past user experience with 
> Loadstone GPS. Actual data and app features may differ.
> 
> This app is called My Way and it is available on the App Store. Two 
> versions are available. My Way Light is free and My Way Classic is $19.99 
> on the US Store.
> 
> I invite you to check these out under the following links:
> 
> MyWay Light: http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-lite/id494516234?mt=8&ls=1
> MyWay Classic: 
> http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-classic/id494282724?mt=8&ls=1
> 
> Enjoy!
> Emrah
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Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-18 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hey. This is an awesome app. Thanks. I didn't know if the lite version covered 
Winnipeg but it does! I think I'll use this more than Sendero.

Shawn

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Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-18 Thread Juan Pablo

Hi, Emrah,
Sorry. I am only an user. I have not any partner with ariadne debs.
In other hands, ariadne uses google to retrieve maps information. This app 
uses Open street map, a repository that in some common countries (brazil) 
are very poor quality.


Finally, let me say again the three words that me last e-mail begun "in my 
opinion"


All the best.
-Original Message- 
From: Emrah

Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:02 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

You cannot compare both.

Does Ariadne GPS let you walk free in an open space, like mountains, parks, 
forests, and then brings you back to your origin point?


Can you set a destination point in Ariadne GPS and be guided to it with 
intermediate points to help you recall your position?


Can you create points of interest e.g.: university buildings on a campus, 
subway or bus stations, ATMs, benches or picnic spots in a park?


Can you share points of interest with a community?

If you are the developer, your app is good, but does not serve the same 
purpose as Loadstone or MyWay..


Emrah

On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:


In my opinion, Ariadne gps make a better work than this.

-Original Message- From: Emrah
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

It is not a turn by turn app, but can almost sound like one if you set up 
your points right.


If the app tells you your destination is at 3 o'clock and you are at the 
corner of 2 streets, you logically make a right. If it says it's at 2 
o'clock, you can still make a right, and most likely turn left at the next 
intersection.


Best,
Emrah
On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:


Thanks.
It opened up in safari as well and I was actually able to see and english 
description from there.
Does this do turn by turn as well or just guide you to a previously set 
waypoint.

Thanks for sharing this awesome sounding app.

On 2012-01-18, at 12:06 PM, Emrah wrote:


Matthew,

Try accessing the App Store description directly from your iPHone.

I think the main difference is the ability to load OpenStreet points.

Emrah
On Jan 18, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:


Hi.
What is the differences between the light and the classic versions? I'd 
read the App store description if I could but it's all in german.

Thanks.

On 2012-01-18, at 11:19 AM, Emrah wrote:


Guys,

First of, please let me clarify that I have not been endorsed or 
compensated in anyway for spreading the word about this app. I am just 
super excited about it. :)


I just heard that the Swiss Federation for the Blind have developed an 
App that works like the legendary Loadstone on Nokia phones.


This is a gigantic breakthrough in my opinion, here is why.

1. You can set up arbitrary location points. For instance, you can 
create a point at the entrance of your favorite park or forest when 
you walk your dog.

2. Walk away as freely as you want.
3. Ask your iPHone to guide you back to your original point.
4. Your iPhone will guide you with instructions like "Your point is 
200 yards at 12 o'clock."


Now guys, these are assumptions based on my past user experience with 
Loadstone GPS. Actual data and app features may differ.


This app is called My Way and it is available on the App Store. Two 
versions are available. My Way Light is free and My Way Classic is 
$19.99 on the US Store.


I invite you to check these out under the following links:

MyWay Light: 
http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-lite/id494516234?mt=8&ls=1
MyWay Classic: 
http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-classic/id494282724?mt=8&ls=1


Enjoy!
Emrah

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Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-18 Thread Emrah
You cannot compare both.

Does Ariadne GPS let you walk free in an open space, like mountains, parks, 
forests, and then brings you back to your origin point?

Can you set a destination point in Ariadne GPS and be guided to it with 
intermediate points to help you recall your position?

Can you create points of interest e.g.: university buildings on a campus, 
subway or bus stations, ATMs, benches or picnic spots in a park?

Can you share points of interest with a community?

If you are the developer, your app is good, but does not serve the same purpose 
as Loadstone or MyWay..

Emrah

On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:

> In my opinion, Ariadne gps make a better work than this.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Emrah
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:33 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone
> 
> It is not a turn by turn app, but can almost sound like one if you set up 
> your points right.
> 
> If the app tells you your destination is at 3 o'clock and you are at the 
> corner of 2 streets, you logically make a right. If it says it's at 2 
> o'clock, you can still make a right, and most likely turn left at the next 
> intersection.
> 
> Best,
> Emrah
> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Thanks.
>> It opened up in safari as well and I was actually able to see and english 
>> description from there.
>> Does this do turn by turn as well or just guide you to a previously set 
>> waypoint.
>> Thanks for sharing this awesome sounding app.
>> 
>> On 2012-01-18, at 12:06 PM, Emrah wrote:
>> 
>>> Matthew,
>>> 
>>> Try accessing the App Store description directly from your iPHone.
>>> 
>>> I think the main difference is the ability to load OpenStreet points.
>>> 
>>> Emrah
>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi.
>>>> What is the differences between the light and the classic versions? I'd 
>>>> read the App store description if I could but it's all in german.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> On 2012-01-18, at 11:19 AM, Emrah wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Guys,
>>>>> 
>>>>> First of, please let me clarify that I have not been endorsed or 
>>>>> compensated in anyway for spreading the word about this app. I am just 
>>>>> super excited about it. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just heard that the Swiss Federation for the Blind have developed an 
>>>>> App that works like the legendary Loadstone on Nokia phones.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is a gigantic breakthrough in my opinion, here is why.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. You can set up arbitrary location points. For instance, you can create 
>>>>> a point at the entrance of your favorite park or forest when you walk 
>>>>> your dog.
>>>>> 2. Walk away as freely as you want.
>>>>> 3. Ask your iPHone to guide you back to your original point.
>>>>> 4. Your iPhone will guide you with instructions like "Your point is 200 
>>>>> yards at 12 o'clock."
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now guys, these are assumptions based on my past user experience with 
>>>>> Loadstone GPS. Actual data and app features may differ.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This app is called My Way and it is available on the App Store. Two 
>>>>> versions are available. My Way Light is free and My Way Classic is $19.99 
>>>>> on the US Store.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I invite you to check these out under the following links:
>>>>> 
>>>>> MyWay Light: http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-lite/id494516234?mt=8&ls=1
>>>>> MyWay Classic: 
>>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-classic/id494282724?mt=8&ls=1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>> Emrah
>>>>> 
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Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-18 Thread Christina
What are "openstreet points"?

Thanks,
Christina
On Jan 18, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Emrah wrote:

> I think the main difference is the ability to load OpenStreet points.

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Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-18 Thread Juan Pablo

In my opinion, Ariadne gps make a better work than this.

-Original Message- 
From: Emrah

Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

It is not a turn by turn app, but can almost sound like one if you set up 
your points right.


If the app tells you your destination is at 3 o'clock and you are at the 
corner of 2 streets, you logically make a right. If it says it's at 2 
o'clock, you can still make a right, and most likely turn left at the next 
intersection.


Best,
Emrah
On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:


Thanks.
It opened up in safari as well and I was actually able to see and english 
description from there.
Does this do turn by turn as well or just guide you to a previously set 
waypoint.

Thanks for sharing this awesome sounding app.

On 2012-01-18, at 12:06 PM, Emrah wrote:


Matthew,

Try accessing the App Store description directly from your iPHone.

I think the main difference is the ability to load OpenStreet points.

Emrah
On Jan 18, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:


Hi.
What is the differences between the light and the classic versions? I'd 
read the App store description if I could but it's all in german.

Thanks.

On 2012-01-18, at 11:19 AM, Emrah wrote:


Guys,

First of, please let me clarify that I have not been endorsed or 
compensated in anyway for spreading the word about this app. I am just 
super excited about it. :)


I just heard that the Swiss Federation for the Blind have developed an 
App that works like the legendary Loadstone on Nokia phones.


This is a gigantic breakthrough in my opinion, here is why.

1. You can set up arbitrary location points. For instance, you can 
create a point at the entrance of your favorite park or forest when you 
walk your dog.

2. Walk away as freely as you want.
3. Ask your iPHone to guide you back to your original point.
4. Your iPhone will guide you with instructions like "Your point is 200 
yards at 12 o'clock."


Now guys, these are assumptions based on my past user experience with 
Loadstone GPS. Actual data and app features may differ.


This app is called My Way and it is available on the App Store. Two 
versions are available. My Way Light is free and My Way Classic is 
$19.99 on the US Store.


I invite you to check these out under the following links:

MyWay Light: 
http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-lite/id494516234?mt=8&ls=1
MyWay Classic: 
http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-classic/id494282724?mt=8&ls=1


Enjoy!
Emrah

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Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-18 Thread Emrah
It is not a turn by turn app, but can almost sound like one if you set up your 
points right.

If the app tells you your destination is at 3 o'clock and you are at the corner 
of 2 streets, you logically make a right. If it says it's at 2 o'clock, you can 
still make a right, and most likely turn left at the next intersection.

Best,
Emrah
On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:

> Thanks.
> It opened up in safari as well and I was actually able to see and english 
> description from there.
> Does this do turn by turn as well or just guide you to a previously set 
> waypoint.
> Thanks for sharing this awesome sounding app.
> 
> On 2012-01-18, at 12:06 PM, Emrah wrote:
> 
>> Matthew,
>> 
>> Try accessing the App Store description directly from your iPHone.
>> 
>> I think the main difference is the ability to load OpenStreet points.
>> 
>> Emrah
>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> What is the differences between the light and the classic versions? I'd 
>>> read the App store description if I could but it's all in german.
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> On 2012-01-18, at 11:19 AM, Emrah wrote:
>>> 
 Guys,
 
 First of, please let me clarify that I have not been endorsed or 
 compensated in anyway for spreading the word about this app. I am just 
 super excited about it. :)
 
 I just heard that the Swiss Federation for the Blind have developed an App 
 that works like the legendary Loadstone on Nokia phones.
 
 This is a gigantic breakthrough in my opinion, here is why.
 
 1. You can set up arbitrary location points. For instance, you can create 
 a point at the entrance of your favorite park or forest when you walk your 
 dog.
 2. Walk away as freely as you want.
 3. Ask your iPHone to guide you back to your original point.
 4. Your iPhone will guide you with instructions like "Your point is 200 
 yards at 12 o'clock."
 
 Now guys, these are assumptions based on my past user experience with 
 Loadstone GPS. Actual data and app features may differ.
 
 This app is called My Way and it is available on the App Store. Two 
 versions are available. My Way Light is free and My Way Classic is $19.99 
 on the US Store.
 
 I invite you to check these out under the following links:
 
 MyWay Light: http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-lite/id494516234?mt=8&ls=1
 MyWay Classic: 
 http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-classic/id494282724?mt=8&ls=1
 
 Enjoy!
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Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-18 Thread Matthew Campbell
Thanks.
It opened up in safari as well and I was actually able to see and english 
description from there.
Does this do turn by turn as well or just guide you to a previously set 
waypoint.
Thanks for sharing this awesome sounding app.

On 2012-01-18, at 12:06 PM, Emrah wrote:

> Matthew,
> 
> Try accessing the App Store description directly from your iPHone.
> 
> I think the main difference is the ability to load OpenStreet points.
> 
> Emrah
> On Jan 18, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> What is the differences between the light and the classic versions? I'd read 
>> the App store description if I could but it's all in german.
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> On 2012-01-18, at 11:19 AM, Emrah wrote:
>> 
>>> Guys,
>>> 
>>> First of, please let me clarify that I have not been endorsed or 
>>> compensated in anyway for spreading the word about this app. I am just 
>>> super excited about it. :)
>>> 
>>> I just heard that the Swiss Federation for the Blind have developed an App 
>>> that works like the legendary Loadstone on Nokia phones.
>>> 
>>> This is a gigantic breakthrough in my opinion, here is why.
>>> 
>>> 1. You can set up arbitrary location points. For instance, you can create a 
>>> point at the entrance of your favorite park or forest when you walk your 
>>> dog.
>>> 2. Walk away as freely as you want.
>>> 3. Ask your iPHone to guide you back to your original point.
>>> 4. Your iPhone will guide you with instructions like "Your point is 200 
>>> yards at 12 o'clock."
>>> 
>>> Now guys, these are assumptions based on my past user experience with 
>>> Loadstone GPS. Actual data and app features may differ.
>>> 
>>> This app is called My Way and it is available on the App Store. Two 
>>> versions are available. My Way Light is free and My Way Classic is $19.99 
>>> on the US Store.
>>> 
>>> I invite you to check these out under the following links:
>>> 
>>> MyWay Light: http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-lite/id494516234?mt=8&ls=1
>>> MyWay Classic: 
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-classic/id494282724?mt=8&ls=1
>>> 
>>> Enjoy!
>>> Emrah
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Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-18 Thread Kevin Mattingly
You can never have enough help in navigating in my opinion. I'll use this along 
with the others I have for sure.

Kev 
On Jan 18, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Emrah wrote:

> Guys,
> 
> First of, please let me clarify that I have not been endorsed or compensated 
> in anyway for spreading the word about this app. I am just super excited 
> about it. :)
> 
> I just heard that the Swiss Federation for the Blind have developed an App 
> that works like the legendary Loadstone on Nokia phones.
> 
> This is a gigantic breakthrough in my opinion, here is why.
> 
> 1. You can set up arbitrary location points. For instance, you can create a 
> point at the entrance of your favorite park or forest when you walk your dog.
> 2. Walk away as freely as you want.
> 3. Ask your iPHone to guide you back to your original point.
> 4. Your iPhone will guide you with instructions like "Your point is 200 yards 
> at 12 o'clock."
> 
> Now guys, these are assumptions based on my past user experience with 
> Loadstone GPS. Actual data and app features may differ.
> 
> This app is called My Way and it is available on the App Store. Two versions 
> are available. My Way Light is free and My Way Classic is $19.99 on the US 
> Store.
> 
> I invite you to check these out under the following links:
> 
> MyWay Light: http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-lite/id494516234?mt=8&ls=1
> MyWay Classic: http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-classic/id494282724?mt=8&ls=1
> 
> Enjoy!
> Emrah
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Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-18 Thread Emrah
Matthew,

Try accessing the App Store description directly from your iPHone.

I think the main difference is the ability to load OpenStreet points.

Emrah
On Jan 18, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:

> Hi.
> What is the differences between the light and the classic versions? I'd read 
> the App store description if I could but it's all in german.
> Thanks.
> 
> On 2012-01-18, at 11:19 AM, Emrah wrote:
> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> First of, please let me clarify that I have not been endorsed or compensated 
>> in anyway for spreading the word about this app. I am just super excited 
>> about it. :)
>> 
>> I just heard that the Swiss Federation for the Blind have developed an App 
>> that works like the legendary Loadstone on Nokia phones.
>> 
>> This is a gigantic breakthrough in my opinion, here is why.
>> 
>> 1. You can set up arbitrary location points. For instance, you can create a 
>> point at the entrance of your favorite park or forest when you walk your dog.
>> 2. Walk away as freely as you want.
>> 3. Ask your iPHone to guide you back to your original point.
>> 4. Your iPhone will guide you with instructions like "Your point is 200 
>> yards at 12 o'clock."
>> 
>> Now guys, these are assumptions based on my past user experience with 
>> Loadstone GPS. Actual data and app features may differ.
>> 
>> This app is called My Way and it is available on the App Store. Two versions 
>> are available. My Way Light is free and My Way Classic is $19.99 on the US 
>> Store.
>> 
>> I invite you to check these out under the following links:
>> 
>> MyWay Light: http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-lite/id494516234?mt=8&ls=1
>> MyWay Classic: 
>> http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-classic/id494282724?mt=8&ls=1
>> 
>> Enjoy!
>> Emrah
>> 
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Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-18 Thread Emrah
This is not an app that can guide you to an address you have not previously 
visited.
If you can have someone guide you once, you can use this app and set up points 
along the way. I think this app is a thousand times more usable than any other 
pedestrian navigation system out there.

You can set up points at street intersections, crossings, bus stops and so on 
and so forth.

I can't wait to go and walk in Central Park with my dog without worrying about 
the direction I take, landmarks  or how many steps…

Emrah
Ps: as the community grows, we can expect to have people set up downloadable 
points. E.g.: Subway stations in NYC.
On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:

> Is this all the app does, or is it a full-fledged GPS app?
> On Jan 18, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Emrah wrote:
> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> First of, please let me clarify that I have not been endorsed or compensated 
>> in anyway for spreading the word about this app. I am just super excited 
>> about it. :)
>> 
>> I just heard that the Swiss Federation for the Blind have developed an App 
>> that works like the legendary Loadstone on Nokia phones.
>> 
>> This is a gigantic breakthrough in my opinion, here is why.
>> 
>> 1. You can set up arbitrary location points. For instance, you can create a 
>> point at the entrance of your favorite park or forest when you walk your dog.
>> 2. Walk away as freely as you want.
>> 3. Ask your iPHone to guide you back to your original point.
>> 4. Your iPhone will guide you with instructions like "Your point is 200 
>> yards at 12 o'clock."
>> 
>> Now guys, these are assumptions based on my past user experience with 
>> Loadstone GPS. Actual data and app features may differ.
>> 
>> This app is called My Way and it is available on the App Store. Two versions 
>> are available. My Way Light is free and My Way Classic is $19.99 on the US 
>> Store.
>> 
>> I invite you to check these out under the following links:
>> 
>> MyWay Light: http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-lite/id494516234?mt=8&ls=1
>> MyWay Classic: 
>> http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-classic/id494282724?mt=8&ls=1
>> 
>> Enjoy!
>> Emrah
>> 
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Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-18 Thread Matthew Campbell
Hi.
What is the differences between the light and the classic versions? I'd read 
the App store description if I could but it's all in german.
Thanks.

On 2012-01-18, at 11:19 AM, Emrah wrote:

> Guys,
> 
> First of, please let me clarify that I have not been endorsed or compensated 
> in anyway for spreading the word about this app. I am just super excited 
> about it. :)
> 
> I just heard that the Swiss Federation for the Blind have developed an App 
> that works like the legendary Loadstone on Nokia phones.
> 
> This is a gigantic breakthrough in my opinion, here is why.
> 
> 1. You can set up arbitrary location points. For instance, you can create a 
> point at the entrance of your favorite park or forest when you walk your dog.
> 2. Walk away as freely as you want.
> 3. Ask your iPHone to guide you back to your original point.
> 4. Your iPhone will guide you with instructions like "Your point is 200 yards 
> at 12 o'clock."
> 
> Now guys, these are assumptions based on my past user experience with 
> Loadstone GPS. Actual data and app features may differ.
> 
> This app is called My Way and it is available on the App Store. Two versions 
> are available. My Way Light is free and My Way Classic is $19.99 on the US 
> Store.
> 
> I invite you to check these out under the following links:
> 
> MyWay Light: http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-lite/id494516234?mt=8&ls=1
> MyWay Classic: http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-classic/id494282724?mt=8&ls=1
> 
> Enjoy!
> Emrah
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Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone

2012-01-18 Thread Christine Grassman
Is this all the app does, or is it a full-fledged GPS app?
On Jan 18, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Emrah wrote:

> Guys,
> 
> First of, please let me clarify that I have not been endorsed or compensated 
> in anyway for spreading the word about this app. I am just super excited 
> about it. :)
> 
> I just heard that the Swiss Federation for the Blind have developed an App 
> that works like the legendary Loadstone on Nokia phones.
> 
> This is a gigantic breakthrough in my opinion, here is why.
> 
> 1. You can set up arbitrary location points. For instance, you can create a 
> point at the entrance of your favorite park or forest when you walk your dog.
> 2. Walk away as freely as you want.
> 3. Ask your iPHone to guide you back to your original point.
> 4. Your iPhone will guide you with instructions like "Your point is 200 yards 
> at 12 o'clock."
> 
> Now guys, these are assumptions based on my past user experience with 
> Loadstone GPS. Actual data and app features may differ.
> 
> This app is called My Way and it is available on the App Store. Two versions 
> are available. My Way Light is free and My Way Classic is $19.99 on the US 
> Store.
> 
> I invite you to check these out under the following links:
> 
> MyWay Light: http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-lite/id494516234?mt=8&ls=1
> MyWay Classic: http://itunes.apple.com/app/myway-classic/id494282724?mt=8&ls=1
> 
> Enjoy!
> Emrah
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