Re: Browsing Time Machine
It does not look like one can delete files or folders from inside a Time Machine backup. So I will leave things as they are. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 5/12/2024 9:19 AM, Dave Carlson wrote: E.T. Here’s a text file I copied a few years back. Process seems a bit squirrely but I think I’ve managed to use it a couple times. Restore a File Using Time Machine Position on desired folder Extras menu, Time Machine Enter Time Machine; wait until finished Control-Option F1 Finder in Time Machine Control-Option F2 Twice (or for me, Opt-W) for window chooser Arrow down to Time Machine Controls Press Enter Gives a most recent date Control-Option LeftArrow Brings up Timeline Control-Option DownArrow Find a backup date of interest Ctrl-Option J to Jump to list Arrow to find desired file Ctrl-Opt F2 twice (Opt-w) to window list to find Time Machine Controls Ctrl-Opt UpArrow to dismiss backup list Ctrl-Option Right arrow to Restore button Dave Carlson Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer, Farfar dgcarlson0...@gmail.com On May 11, 2024, at 2:54 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hello, When selecting this option from the status bar, how does one navigate the backup? I was trying to find a particular folder in the Finder. Thanks. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/fa01bc38-0218-483e-a304-7a9c7afb0cf5%40icloud.com.
Re: Browsing Time Machine
Quick note here. My backup drive is not encrypted. I need to play with it some more but one thing I cannot do is delete files from the backup. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 5/12/2024 10:41 AM, Ian Robinson wrote: When I’ve checked my own Time Machine backups, the easiest way seems to be to open the drive and navigate the folders in Finder in the usual way. My Time Machine drive is set to show up on the Desktop. After pressing Command+o on the drive, there was a list of folders named with the date of the various backups, with the newest at the bottom of the list. Within each of the folders there was a Data folder. The contents of the Data folder is the same as the SSD of the MacBook. I could navigate to my user folder and open Documents, Downloads, etc. I didn’t actually try copying anything from the backup at the time. Ian On 12 May 2024, at 17:19, Dave Carlson wrote: E.T. Here’s a text file I copied a few years back. Process seems a bit squirrely but I think I’ve managed to use it a couple times. Restore a File Using Time Machine Position on desired folder Extras menu, Time Machine Enter Time Machine; wait until finished Control-Option F1 Finder in Time Machine Control-Option F2 Twice (or for me, Opt-W) for window chooser Arrow down to Time Machine Controls Press Enter Gives a most recent date Control-Option LeftArrow Brings up Timeline Control-Option DownArrow Find a backup date of interest Ctrl-Option J to Jump to list Arrow to find desired file Ctrl-Opt F2 twice (Opt-w) to window list to find Time Machine Controls Ctrl-Opt UpArrow to dismiss backup list Ctrl-Option Right arrow to Restore button Dave Carlson Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer, Farfar dgcarlson0...@gmail.com On May 11, 2024, at 2:54 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hello, When selecting this option from the status bar, how does one navigate the backup? I was trying to find a particular folder in the Finder. Thanks. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/db6d3af2-9e8b-4261-8bf5-bf5166a75bff%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/30DF650C-C508-4092-8839-FEA2151A1381%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://
Re: Browsing Time Machine
Hi Dave, My Time Machine backup is encrypted. Hence, when I attach the drive to the computer, a system dialogue pops up asking for the password. Once entered, there is a few seconds delay then the Seagate drive shows up on the Desktop. After that, I can browse the drive like any other drive; no other steps are needed. Ian > On 12 May 2024, at 18:44, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Ian, > > That may work, but I think first you need to select the backup file and open > the image mounter to get it added to the desktop. > > Dave Carlson > Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Woodworker, Musician > dgcarlson0...@gmail.com > > > > > On May 12, 2024, at 10:41 AM, Ian Robinson wrote: > > When I’ve checked my own Time Machine backups, the easiest way seems to be to > open the drive and navigate the folders in Finder in the usual way. > > My Time Machine drive is set to show up on the Desktop. > After pressing Command+o on the drive, there was a list of folders named with > the date of the various backups, with the newest at the bottom of the list. > Within each of the folders there was a Data folder. > The contents of the Data folder is the same as the SSD of the MacBook. I > could navigate to my user folder and open Documents, Downloads, etc. I didn’t > actually try copying anything from the backup at the time. > > Ian > > > > >> On 12 May 2024, at 17:19, Dave Carlson wrote: >> >> E.T. >> >> Here’s a text file I copied a few years back. Process seems a bit squirrely >> but I think I’ve managed to use it a couple times. >> >> Restore a File Using Time Machine >> >> Position on desired folder >> Extras menu, Time Machine >> Enter Time Machine; wait until finished >> Control-Option F1 >> Finder in Time Machine >> Control-Option F2 Twice (or for me, Opt-W) for window chooser >> Arrow down to Time Machine Controls >> Press Enter >> Gives a most recent date >> Control-Option LeftArrow >> Brings up Timeline >> Control-Option DownArrow >> Find a backup date of interest >> Ctrl-Option J to Jump to list >> Arrow to find desired file >> Ctrl-Opt F2 twice (Opt-w) to window list to find Time Machine Controls >> Ctrl-Opt UpArrow to dismiss backup list >> Ctrl-Option Right arrow to Restore button >> >> >> Dave Carlson >> Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer, Farfar >> dgcarlson0...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> On May 11, 2024, at 2:54 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> When selecting this option from the status bar, how does one navigate the >> backup? I was trying to find a particular folder in the Finder. Thanks. >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." >> -Helen Keller >> My e-Mail: >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/db6d3af2-9e8b-4261-8bf5-bf5166a75bff%40icloud.com. >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/30DF650C-C508-4092-8839-FEA2151A1381%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's
Re: Browsing Time Machine
Ian, That may work, but I think first you need to select the backup file and open the image mounter to get it added to the desktop. Dave Carlson Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Woodworker, Musician dgcarlson0...@gmail.com On May 12, 2024, at 10:41 AM, Ian Robinson wrote: When I’ve checked my own Time Machine backups, the easiest way seems to be to open the drive and navigate the folders in Finder in the usual way. My Time Machine drive is set to show up on the Desktop. After pressing Command+o on the drive, there was a list of folders named with the date of the various backups, with the newest at the bottom of the list. Within each of the folders there was a Data folder. The contents of the Data folder is the same as the SSD of the MacBook. I could navigate to my user folder and open Documents, Downloads, etc. I didn’t actually try copying anything from the backup at the time. Ian > On 12 May 2024, at 17:19, Dave Carlson wrote: > > E.T. > > Here’s a text file I copied a few years back. Process seems a bit squirrely > but I think I’ve managed to use it a couple times. > > Restore a File Using Time Machine > > Position on desired folder > Extras menu, Time Machine > Enter Time Machine; wait until finished > Control-Option F1 > Finder in Time Machine > Control-Option F2 Twice (or for me, Opt-W) for window chooser > Arrow down to Time Machine Controls > Press Enter > Gives a most recent date > Control-Option LeftArrow > Brings up Timeline > Control-Option DownArrow > Find a backup date of interest > Ctrl-Option J to Jump to list > Arrow to find desired file > Ctrl-Opt F2 twice (Opt-w) to window list to find Time Machine Controls > Ctrl-Opt UpArrow to dismiss backup list > Ctrl-Option Right arrow to Restore button > > > Dave Carlson > Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer, Farfar > dgcarlson0...@gmail.com > > > > On May 11, 2024, at 2:54 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hello, > When selecting this option from the status bar, how does one navigate the > backup? I was trying to find a particular folder in the Finder. Thanks. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > -Helen Keller > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/db6d3af2-9e8b-4261-8bf5-bf5166a75bff%40icloud.com. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/30DF650C-C508-4092-8839-FEA2151A1381%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving e
Re: Browsing Time Machine
When I’ve checked my own Time Machine backups, the easiest way seems to be to open the drive and navigate the folders in Finder in the usual way. My Time Machine drive is set to show up on the Desktop. After pressing Command+o on the drive, there was a list of folders named with the date of the various backups, with the newest at the bottom of the list. Within each of the folders there was a Data folder. The contents of the Data folder is the same as the SSD of the MacBook. I could navigate to my user folder and open Documents, Downloads, etc. I didn’t actually try copying anything from the backup at the time. Ian > On 12 May 2024, at 17:19, Dave Carlson wrote: > > E.T. > > Here’s a text file I copied a few years back. Process seems a bit squirrely > but I think I’ve managed to use it a couple times. > > Restore a File Using Time Machine > > Position on desired folder > Extras menu, Time Machine > Enter Time Machine; wait until finished > Control-Option F1 > Finder in Time Machine > Control-Option F2 Twice (or for me, Opt-W) for window chooser > Arrow down to Time Machine Controls > Press Enter > Gives a most recent date > Control-Option LeftArrow > Brings up Timeline > Control-Option DownArrow > Find a backup date of interest > Ctrl-Option J to Jump to list > Arrow to find desired file > Ctrl-Opt F2 twice (Opt-w) to window list to find Time Machine Controls > Ctrl-Opt UpArrow to dismiss backup list > Ctrl-Option Right arrow to Restore button > > > Dave Carlson > Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer, Farfar > dgcarlson0...@gmail.com > > > > On May 11, 2024, at 2:54 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hello, > When selecting this option from the status bar, how does one navigate the > backup? I was trying to find a particular folder in the Finder. Thanks. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > -Helen Keller > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/db6d3af2-9e8b-4261-8bf5-bf5166a75bff%40icloud.com. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/30DF650C-C508-4092-8839-FEA2151A1381%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8D693224-B35F-4D6F-9974-18AA7EAD6F64%40hotmail.co.uk.
Re: Browsing Time Machine
E.T. Here’s a text file I copied a few years back. Process seems a bit squirrely but I think I’ve managed to use it a couple times. Restore a File Using Time Machine Position on desired folder Extras menu, Time Machine Enter Time Machine; wait until finished Control-Option F1 Finder in Time Machine Control-Option F2 Twice (or for me, Opt-W) for window chooser Arrow down to Time Machine Controls Press Enter Gives a most recent date Control-Option LeftArrow Brings up Timeline Control-Option DownArrow Find a backup date of interest Ctrl-Option J to Jump to list Arrow to find desired file Ctrl-Opt F2 twice (Opt-w) to window list to find Time Machine Controls Ctrl-Opt UpArrow to dismiss backup list Ctrl-Option Right arrow to Restore button Dave Carlson Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer, Farfar dgcarlson0...@gmail.com On May 11, 2024, at 2:54 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hello, When selecting this option from the status bar, how does one navigate the backup? I was trying to find a particular folder in the Finder. Thanks. >From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -Helen Keller My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/db6d3af2-9e8b-4261-8bf5-bf5166a75bff%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/30DF650C-C508-4092-8839-FEA2151A1381%40gmail.com.
Re: Browsing Time Machine
I have never been completely sure of the official way of doing this. I do remember some discussion though. 1. Find the timeline areea by stop interacting and then going to the next item . 2. The backup selection is a slider that can be navigated several ways. ONce you find the date, then go back to your main finder area and find the folder. How you actually recover a selected folder or item, I am not 100 sure, but I would expect a either the file menu or the contextual menu should have a selector for this. BTW did you know there is now a universal Apple URL for all documentation that includes historic items? % On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 5:55 PM 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries < macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Hello, > When selecting this option from the status bar, how does one > navigate the backup? I was trying to find a particular folder in the > Finder. Thanks. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > -Helen Keller > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/db6d3af2-9e8b-4261-8bf5-bf5166a75bff%40icloud.com > . > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CAEL01Rso20ZkugCGmSOwxxyGf3eV_r%2BPyC9fWMKPLjZjPV8ORg%40mail.gmail.com.