Re: E-sims and Voiceover.

2023-12-23 Thread Anders Holmberg 
Hi!
Interesting. The European has though.
At least my 15 pro max.
/A

> On 23 Dec 2023, at 00:17, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> What kind of phone is your new phone.
> If it is a new iPhone, it probably doesn’t have a SIM card in it, because in 
> the US, beginning with the iPhone 14, there is not a SIM card slot anymore..
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 22, 2023, at 14:38, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> So this is the bulk of the instructions they sent me so far.  
> ACTIVATE YOUR NEW ESIM TODAY WITH CONSUMER CELLULAR
> eSIM Installation
> Need Help? Give us a call: (888) 345-5509
> Wi-Fi or an existing cellular plan is required to install an eSIM. You do not 
> need a physical SIM card.
> Setup Your Cellular Service with eSIM:
> If your current device has a physical SIM card, please remove it before 
> continuing
> Turn on your phone
> Connect the phone to WiFi
> Follow the on-screen prompts or scan the QR code 
> 
>  below to begin eSIM installation
> After the eSIM has been successfully installed, you will need to restart your 
> phone.
> What's Next?
> New Numbers and Replacement Orders
> Your service is ready to go. If you are changing carriers, please note your 
> old service will no longer work.
> 
> 
> So the whole scanning of the QR code as well as me not knowing how to even 
> remove the SIM card from my phone is what I’m unsure about.
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 3:14 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> OK cool. Well, whenever you have time, give me a call 254-813-2461. And 
>> we'll see what we can come up with.
>> Joseph Hudson
>> 
>> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
>> jhud7...@twc.com
>> 
>> Connect with me on zoom
>> 
>> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:12 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’d love to talk to you more to see if we can both shed some light on this. 
>>>  Unfortunately, this is the only phone I have, so not sure what to do there.
>>> 
 On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:53 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
 
 Well, if you want, I would not mind talking with you and helping you 
 through the process. But the key to this whole thing, is you need to have 
 another phone available that you can talk to consumer cellular on. So that 
 they can give you the codes. And if you are. Upgrading your phone, the one 
 that only does eSIM. Then you'll be starting from scratch. Like I did.
 Joseph Hudson
 
 EmailFaceTime/iMessage
 jhud7...@twc.com
 
 Connect with me on zoom
 
 https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
 
> On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:45 PM, Jessica Moss  
> wrote:
> 
> This is actually my first time having done anything with an e-sim, so 
> this whole process is all new to me.  Sadly, I know nothing about how to 
> even remove/insert a SIM card, so in the past, when I switched carriers, 
> I either just took my phone to a carrier-specific store and let them do 
> it, or let Hannah (my now 14-year-old daughter,) do it, who is really 
> good with just about anything tech-related.
>   However, she’s in Orlando visiting her dad for Christmas, and things 
> got so busy right before she left, that there wasn’t time for me to ask 
> her to help then.
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:35 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, sounds like a pain in the rear process. I know whenever I switched 
>> from my iPhone SE to my iPhone 14, and I currently have spectrum, all I 
>> had to do was give them are all they had to do, was give me some numbers 
>> to put in, and my eSIM was successfully activated. If you already have 
>> an eSIM, and not using a physical Sim, on the new device, it will pop up 
>> with a thing to ask you, if you want to activate eSIM once you have 
>> signed into your iCloud and connected to Wi-Fi
>> Joseph Hudson
>> 
>> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
>> jhud7...@twc.com
>> 
>> Connect with me on zoom
>> 
>> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:22 PM, Jessica Moss  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve just recently decided to switch to Consumer Cellular, and they 
>>> sent me a huge list of instructions for installing an e-sim, something 
>>> I’ve never done before.  Part of this involves me needing to align my 
>>> phone with an image on my computer screen, if I remember correctly, and 
>>> another step involves needing to scan a QR code, and the rest I’ll need 
>>> to look back at the e-mail they sent me, since it was really long.
>>>  To anybody who has ever done this, how much of this will I be able to 
>>> do with Voiceover, and how much will require something like a team 
>>> viewer session with an Aira Agent

Re: E-sims and Voiceover.

2023-12-23 Thread Anders Holmberg 
Hi!
I live in Sweden and  the phone company I have my subscription at has an app 
which you do all these things in.
Very very easy.
Bless.
/A

> On 22 Dec 2023, at 22:00, Brent Harding  wrote:
> 
> It might be possible to call them and get them to give you the manual info to 
> do it without the camera. I know the whole ESIM thing used to be a battle to 
> try to transfer to a new phone, but the tricky part of actually shooting the 
> code with the camera is probably getting it to be on screen when one scrolls 
> through the message. If one aims toward the center of the screen and backs 
> away a bit, like one was scanning a piece of mail or something, it may work, 
> and I did it a time or two back when, but with Verizon these days, I don’t 
> need to do it that way.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 1:36 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: E-sims and Voiceover.
>  
> Wow, sounds like a pain in the rear process. I know whenever I switched from 
> my iPhone SE to my iPhone 14, and I currently have spectrum, all I had to do 
> was give them are all they had to do, was give me some numbers to put in, and 
> my eSIM was successfully activated. If you already have an eSIM, and not 
> using a physical Sim, on the new device, it will pop up with a thing to ask 
> you, if you want to activate eSIM once you have signed into your iCloud and 
> connected to Wi-Fi
> Joseph Hudson
>  
> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7...@twc.com <mailto:jhud7...@twc.com>
> Connect with me on zoom
>  
> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
> 
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:22 PM, Jessica Moss > <mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> I’ve just recently decided to switch to Consumer Cellular, and they sent me 
>> a huge list of instructions for installing an e-sim, something I’ve never 
>> done before.  Part of this involves me needing to align my phone with an 
>> image on my computer screen, if I remember correctly, and another step 
>> involves needing to scan a QR code, and the rest I’ll need to look back at 
>> the e-mail they sent me, since it was really long.
>>  To anybody who has ever done this, how much of this will I be able to do 
>> with Voiceover, and how much will require something like a team viewer 
>> session with an Aira Agent to finish setting up?
>> 
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Re: E-sims and Voiceover.

2023-12-23 Thread joseph hudson 
I would suggest that you do some more research. Because the price that you're 
quoting, is more than likely going to be without unlimited data. Because for 
team games and or a little bit more. For two lines, I was paying $83 for both 
of my lines.
Joseph Hudson

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> On Dec 22, 2023, at 5:32 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> My phone isn’t new; I’m still using an iPhone 12, and have been with Mint 
> Mobile for close to 5 years.  However, their payment plan is so off-the-wall, 
> that you pay them every few months instead of having a monthly plan, which 
> means they lump those payments together, and with Hannah and myself both 
> being on the same plan, I’m paying close to $300 a pop for each of us when 
> that time comes, and several times have become overdrawn.
>   I just found out recently that a friend of mine switched to Consumer 
> Cellular, and is paying roughly $40 a month for them, so decided to give it a 
> shot myself.
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 6:17 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> What kind of phone is your new phone.
>> If it is a new iPhone, it probably doesn’t have a SIM card in it, because in 
>> the US, beginning with the iPhone 14, there is not a SIM card slot anymore..
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 14:38, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> So this is the bulk of the instructions they sent me so far.  
>> ACTIVATE YOUR NEW ESIM TODAY WITH CONSUMER CELLULAR
>> eSIM Installation
>> Need Help? Give us a call: (888) 345-5509
>> Wi-Fi or an existing cellular plan is required to install an eSIM. You do 
>> not need a physical SIM card.
>> Setup Your Cellular Service with eSIM:
>> If your current device has a physical SIM card, please remove it before 
>> continuing
>> Turn on your phone
>> Connect the phone to WiFi
>> Follow the on-screen prompts or scan the QR code 
>> 
>>  below to begin eSIM installation
>> After the eSIM has been successfully installed, you will need to restart 
>> your phone.
>> What's Next?
>> New Numbers and Replacement Orders
>> Your service is ready to go. If you are changing carriers, please note your 
>> old service will no longer work.
>> 
>> 
>> So the whole scanning of the QR code as well as me not knowing how to even 
>> remove the SIM card from my phone is what I’m unsure about.
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 3:14 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK cool. Well, whenever you have time, give me a call 254-813-2461. And 
>>> we'll see what we can come up with.
>>> Joseph Hudson
>>> 
>>> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
>>> jhud7...@twc.com
>>> 
>>> Connect with me on zoom
>>> 
>>> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
>>> 
 On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:12 PM, Jessica Moss  
 wrote:
 
 I’d love to talk to you more to see if we can both shed some light on 
 this.  Unfortunately, this is the only phone I have, so not sure what to 
 do there.
 
> On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:53 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Well, if you want, I would not mind talking with you and helping you 
> through the process. But the key to this whole thing, is you need to have 
> another phone available that you can talk to consumer cellular on. So 
> that they can give you the codes. And if you are. Upgrading your phone, 
> the one that only does eSIM. Then you'll be starting from scratch. Like I 
> did.
> Joseph Hudson
> 
> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7...@twc.com
> 
> Connect with me on zoom
> 
> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:45 PM, Jessica Moss  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> This is actually my first time having done anything with an e-sim, so 
>> this whole process is all new to me.  Sadly, I know nothing about how to 
>> even remove/insert a SIM card, so in the past, when I switched carriers, 
>> I either just took my phone to a carrier-specific store and let them do 
>> it, or let Hannah (my now 14-year-old daughter,) do it, who is really 
>> good with just about anything tech-related.
>>   However, she’s in Orlando visiting her dad for Christmas, and things 
>> got so busy right before she left, that there wasn’t time for me to ask 
>> her to help then.
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:35 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow, sounds like a pain in the rear process. I know whenever I switched 
>>> from my iPhone SE to my iPhone 14, and I currently have spectrum, all I 
>>> had to do was give them are all they had to do, was give me some 
>>> numbers to put in, and my eSIM was successfully activated. If you 
>>> already have an eSIM, and not using a physical Sim, on

Re: E-sims and Voiceover.

2023-12-23 Thread Anders Holmberg 
Hi!
Sounds very complicated to me.
I have ben able to scan qr code but how do you align your phone with a image?
/A

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RE: E-sims and Voiceover.

2023-12-22 Thread M. Taylor 
Hello Jessica,

Okay, I just saw your reply and re-read the instructions.

So, you can activate their E SIM as long as you have WiFi.  Great,  That means 
that your iPhone 12 will work just fine.

The only issue, as you stated, is that you do not know how to remove a physical 
SIM card from your device.

Well, unless you’ve removed a physical SIM card once,  there is no way one can 
describe the process, in a few words.

Please note that one does not need eyesight to remove a physical SIM but one 
does need a paper click or SIM card removal tool, and a rather steady hand.

So, I suggest that you find someone or go to somewhere, like BEST BUY, and have 
someone remove the physical SIM, for you.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 3:33 PM
To: 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: E-sims and Voiceover.

My phone isn’t new; I’m still using an iPhone 12, and have been with Mint 
Mobile for close to 5 years.  However, their payment plan is so off-the-wall, 
that you pay them every few months instead of having a monthly plan, which 
means they lump those payments together, and with Hannah and myself both being 
on the same plan, I’m paying close to $300 a pop for each of us when that time 
comes, and several times have become overdrawn.
  I just found out recently that a friend of mine switched to Consumer 
Cellular, and is paying roughly $40 a month for them, so decided to give it a 
shot myself.


On Dec 22, 2023, at 6:17 PM, Brad Snyder <mailto:wb...@swbell.net> wrote:

What kind of phone is your new phone.
If it is a new iPhone, it probably doesn’t have a SIM card in it, because in 
the US, beginning with the iPhone 14, there is not a SIM card slot anymore..

- Brad -


On Dec 22, 2023, at 14:38, Jessica Moss <mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

So this is the bulk of the instructions they sent me so far.  
ACTIVATE YOUR NEW ESIM TODAY WITH CONSUMER CELLULAR
eSIM Installation
Need Help? Give us a call: (888) 345-5509
Wi-Fi or an existing cellular plan is required to install an eSIM. You do not 
need a physical SIM card.
Setup Your Cellular Service with eSIM:
1. If your current device has a physical SIM card, please remove it before 
continuing
2. Turn on your phone
3. Connect the phone to WiFi
4. Follow the on-screen prompts or 
https://www.consumercellular.com/esim-install?uri=LPA%3a1%24SM-V4-103-A-GTM.PR.GO-ESIM.COM%24CC7EC19AC4CCE5C4B6895212B745E15F#qr-jump
 below to begin eSIM installation
5. After the eSIM has been successfully installed, you will need to restart 
your phone.
What's Next?
New Numbers and Replacement Orders
Your service is ready to go. If you are changing carriers, please note your old 
service will no longer work.


So the whole scanning of the QR code as well as me not knowing how to even 
remove the SIM card from my phone is what I’m unsure about.


On Dec 22, 2023, at 3:14 PM, joseph hudson <mailto:jhud7...@twc.com> wrote:

OK cool. Well, whenever you have time, give me a call 254-813-2461. And we'll 
see what we can come up with.
Joseph Hudson

EmailFaceTime/iMessage
mailto:jhud7...@twc.com
Connect with me on zoom

https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09


On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:12 PM, Jessica Moss <mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

I’d love to talk to you more to see if we can both shed some light on this.  
Unfortunately, this is the only phone I have, so not sure what to do there.


On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:53 PM, joseph hudson <mailto:jhud7...@twc.com> wrote:

Well, if you want, I would not mind talking with you and helping you through 
the process. But the key to this whole thing, is you need to have another phone 
available that you can talk to consumer cellular on. So that they can give you 
the codes. And if you are. Upgrading your phone, the one that only does eSIM. 
Then you'll be starting from scratch. Like I did.
Joseph Hudson

EmailFaceTime/iMessage
mailto:jhud7...@twc.com
Connect with me on zoom

https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09


On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:45 PM, Jessica Moss <mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

This is actually my first time having done anything with an e-sim, so this 
whole process is all new to me.  Sadly, I know nothing about how to even 
remove/insert a SIM card, so in the past, when I switched carriers, I either 
just took my phone to a carrier-specific store and let them do it, or let 
Hannah (my now 14-year-old daughter,) do it, who is really good with just about 
anything tech-related.
  However, she’s in Orlando visiting her dad for Christmas, and things got so 
busy right before she left, that there wasn’t time for me to ask her to help 
then.


On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:35 PM, joseph hudson <mailto:jhud7...@twc.com> wrote:

Wow, sounds like a pain in the rear process. I know whenever I switched from my 
iPhone SE to my iPhone 14, and

Re: E-sims and Voiceover.

2023-12-22 Thread Jessica Moss 
My phone isn’t new; I’m still using an iPhone 12, and have been with Mint 
Mobile for close to 5 years.  However, their payment plan is so off-the-wall, 
that you pay them every few months instead of having a monthly plan, which 
means they lump those payments together, and with Hannah and myself both being 
on the same plan, I’m paying close to $300 a pop for each of us when that time 
comes, and several times have become overdrawn.
  I just found out recently that a friend of mine switched to Consumer 
Cellular, and is paying roughly $40 a month for them, so decided to give it a 
shot myself.

> On Dec 22, 2023, at 6:17 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> What kind of phone is your new phone.
> If it is a new iPhone, it probably doesn’t have a SIM card in it, because in 
> the US, beginning with the iPhone 14, there is not a SIM card slot anymore..
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 22, 2023, at 14:38, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> So this is the bulk of the instructions they sent me so far.  
> ACTIVATE YOUR NEW ESIM TODAY WITH CONSUMER CELLULAR
> eSIM Installation
> Need Help? Give us a call: (888) 345-5509
> Wi-Fi or an existing cellular plan is required to install an eSIM. You do not 
> need a physical SIM card.
> Setup Your Cellular Service with eSIM:
> If your current device has a physical SIM card, please remove it before 
> continuing
> Turn on your phone
> Connect the phone to WiFi
> Follow the on-screen prompts or scan the QR code 
> 
>  below to begin eSIM installation
> After the eSIM has been successfully installed, you will need to restart your 
> phone.
> What's Next?
> New Numbers and Replacement Orders
> Your service is ready to go. If you are changing carriers, please note your 
> old service will no longer work.
> 
> 
> So the whole scanning of the QR code as well as me not knowing how to even 
> remove the SIM card from my phone is what I’m unsure about.
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 3:14 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> OK cool. Well, whenever you have time, give me a call 254-813-2461. And 
>> we'll see what we can come up with.
>> Joseph Hudson
>> 
>> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
>> jhud7...@twc.com
>> 
>> Connect with me on zoom
>> 
>> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:12 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’d love to talk to you more to see if we can both shed some light on this. 
>>>  Unfortunately, this is the only phone I have, so not sure what to do there.
>>> 
 On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:53 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
 
 Well, if you want, I would not mind talking with you and helping you 
 through the process. But the key to this whole thing, is you need to have 
 another phone available that you can talk to consumer cellular on. So that 
 they can give you the codes. And if you are. Upgrading your phone, the one 
 that only does eSIM. Then you'll be starting from scratch. Like I did.
 Joseph Hudson
 
 EmailFaceTime/iMessage
 jhud7...@twc.com
 
 Connect with me on zoom
 
 https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
 
> On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:45 PM, Jessica Moss  
> wrote:
> 
> This is actually my first time having done anything with an e-sim, so 
> this whole process is all new to me.  Sadly, I know nothing about how to 
> even remove/insert a SIM card, so in the past, when I switched carriers, 
> I either just took my phone to a carrier-specific store and let them do 
> it, or let Hannah (my now 14-year-old daughter,) do it, who is really 
> good with just about anything tech-related.
>   However, she’s in Orlando visiting her dad for Christmas, and things 
> got so busy right before she left, that there wasn’t time for me to ask 
> her to help then.
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:35 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, sounds like a pain in the rear process. I know whenever I switched 
>> from my iPhone SE to my iPhone 14, and I currently have spectrum, all I 
>> had to do was give them are all they had to do, was give me some numbers 
>> to put in, and my eSIM was successfully activated. If you already have 
>> an eSIM, and not using a physical Sim, on the new device, it will pop up 
>> with a thing to ask you, if you want to activate eSIM once you have 
>> signed into your iCloud and connected to Wi-Fi
>> Joseph Hudson
>> 
>> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
>> jhud7...@twc.com
>> 
>> Connect with me on zoom
>> 
>> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:22 PM, Jessica Moss  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve just recently decided to switch to Consumer Cellular, and they 
>>> sent me a huge list of instructions for

RE: E-sims and Voiceover.

2023-12-22 Thread M. Taylor 
Hello Jessica,

Hopefully, by the time you read this reply, you will have already gotten your E 
SIM up and running.  If you have not yet got your E SIM up and running, there 
are a couple of things you may wish to note:

1.
Based on the info you provided from the carrier, you will most likely need to 
be using an iPhone 14 or later.  I say this because in their email they state 
that you cannot activate their E SIM with a physical SIM installed and they 
also state that you need an active E SIM card in order to proceed.  These two 
conditions can only be met by iPhone 14 or later.  Now it may be that they sent 
you generic instructions that may or may not be valid in all situations.

2.
When you call the 800 number, they should be able to get you up and running, 
although it may take a little time as you will have to read a very long phone 
identifier number to them.

3.
Just so you know, there are several app, in the App Store that are completely 
voiceOver accessible and that will allow you to purchase and activate an E SIM 
on your iPhone, provided that you have, at least, WiFi access.  For example, I 
have recently used the T Mobile Prepaid app to install T Mobile E Sim cards on 
several phones.  T Mobile Prepaid offers several attractive plans, depending 
upon your needs.  They have an unlimited talk and texting with 1GB of data for 
approximately $15 per month.

4.
When it's all said and done, activating an E SIM is not difficult but neither 
is it intuitive.  So, I'm hoping that you will not spend a great deal of time 
struggling with the process; choosing instead, to get some sighted assistance 
or going to a local store and having them activate the E SIM, for you.  All 
things being equal, once you get your new E SIM activated, you will not have to 
deal with it again, for years.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 12:38 PM
To: 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: E-sims and Voiceover.

So this is the bulk of the instructions they sent me so far.  
ACTIVATE YOUR NEW ESIM TODAY WITH CONSUMER CELLULAR
eSIM Installation
Need Help? Give us a call: (888) 345-5509
Wi-Fi or an existing cellular plan is required to install an eSIM. You do not 
need a physical SIM card.
Setup Your Cellular Service with eSIM:
1. If your current device has a physical SIM card, please remove it before 
continuing
2. Turn on your phone
3. Connect the phone to WiFi
4. Follow the on-screen prompts or 
https://www.consumercellular.com/esim-install?uri=LPA%3a1%24SM-V4-103-A-GTM.PR.GO-ESIM.COM%24CC7EC19AC4CCE5C4B6895212B745E15F#qr-jump
 below to begin eSIM installation
5. After the eSIM has been successfully installed, you will need to restart 
your phone.
What's Next?
New Numbers and Replacement Orders
Your service is ready to go. If you are changing carriers, please note your old 
service will no longer work.


So the whole scanning of the QR code as well as me not knowing how to even 
remove the SIM card from my phone is what I’m unsure about.


On Dec 22, 2023, at 3:14 PM, joseph hudson <mailto:jhud7...@twc.com> wrote:

OK cool. Well, whenever you have time, give me a call 254-813-2461. And we'll 
see what we can come up with.
Joseph Hudson

EmailFaceTime/iMessage
mailto:jhud7...@twc.com
Connect with me on zoom

https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09


On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:12 PM, Jessica Moss <mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

I’d love to talk to you more to see if we can both shed some light on this.  
Unfortunately, this is the only phone I have, so not sure what to do there.


On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:53 PM, joseph hudson <mailto:jhud7...@twc.com> wrote:

Well, if you want, I would not mind talking with you and helping you through 
the process. But the key to this whole thing, is you need to have another phone 
available that you can talk to consumer cellular on. So that they can give you 
the codes. And if you are. Upgrading your phone, the one that only does eSIM. 
Then you'll be starting from scratch. Like I did.
Joseph Hudson

EmailFaceTime/iMessage
mailto:jhud7...@twc.com
Connect with me on zoom

https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09


On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:45 PM, Jessica Moss <mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

This is actually my first time having done anything with an e-sim, so this 
whole process is all new to me.  Sadly, I know nothing about how to even 
remove/insert a SIM card, so in the past, when I switched carriers, I either 
just took my phone to a carrier-specific store and let them do it, or let 
Hannah (my now 14-year-old daughter,) do it, who is really good with just about 
anything tech-related.
  However, she’s in Orlando visiting her dad for Christmas, and things got so 
busy right before she left, that there wasn’t time for me to ask her to help 
then.


On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:35 PM, joseph hudson <mailto:jh

Re: E-sims and Voiceover.

2023-12-22 Thread Brad Snyder 
What kind of phone is your new phone.
If it is a new iPhone, it probably doesn’t have a SIM card in it, because in 
the US, beginning with the iPhone 14, there is not a SIM card slot anymore..

- Brad -



On Dec 22, 2023, at 14:38, Jessica Moss  wrote:

So this is the bulk of the instructions they sent me so far.  
ACTIVATE YOUR NEW ESIM TODAY WITH CONSUMER CELLULAR
eSIM Installation
Need Help? Give us a call: (888) 345-5509
Wi-Fi or an existing cellular plan is required to install an eSIM. You do not 
need a physical SIM card.
Setup Your Cellular Service with eSIM:
If your current device has a physical SIM card, please remove it before 
continuing
Turn on your phone
Connect the phone to WiFi
Follow the on-screen prompts or scan the QR code 

 below to begin eSIM installation
After the eSIM has been successfully installed, you will need to restart your 
phone.
What's Next?
New Numbers and Replacement Orders
Your service is ready to go. If you are changing carriers, please note your old 
service will no longer work.


So the whole scanning of the QR code as well as me not knowing how to even 
remove the SIM card from my phone is what I’m unsure about.

> On Dec 22, 2023, at 3:14 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> OK cool. Well, whenever you have time, give me a call 254-813-2461. And we'll 
> see what we can come up with.
> Joseph Hudson
> 
> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7...@twc.com
> 
> Connect with me on zoom
> 
> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:12 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> I’d love to talk to you more to see if we can both shed some light on this.  
>> Unfortunately, this is the only phone I have, so not sure what to do there.
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:53 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, if you want, I would not mind talking with you and helping you 
>>> through the process. But the key to this whole thing, is you need to have 
>>> another phone available that you can talk to consumer cellular on. So that 
>>> they can give you the codes. And if you are. Upgrading your phone, the one 
>>> that only does eSIM. Then you'll be starting from scratch. Like I did.
>>> Joseph Hudson
>>> 
>>> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
>>> jhud7...@twc.com
>>> 
>>> Connect with me on zoom
>>> 
>>> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
>>> 
 On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:45 PM, Jessica Moss  
 wrote:
 
 This is actually my first time having done anything with an e-sim, so this 
 whole process is all new to me.  Sadly, I know nothing about how to even 
 remove/insert a SIM card, so in the past, when I switched carriers, I 
 either just took my phone to a carrier-specific store and let them do it, 
 or let Hannah (my now 14-year-old daughter,) do it, who is really good 
 with just about anything tech-related.
   However, she’s in Orlando visiting her dad for Christmas, and things got 
 so busy right before she left, that there wasn’t time for me to ask her to 
 help then.
 
> On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:35 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Wow, sounds like a pain in the rear process. I know whenever I switched 
> from my iPhone SE to my iPhone 14, and I currently have spectrum, all I 
> had to do was give them are all they had to do, was give me some numbers 
> to put in, and my eSIM was successfully activated. If you already have an 
> eSIM, and not using a physical Sim, on the new device, it will pop up 
> with a thing to ask you, if you want to activate eSIM once you have 
> signed into your iCloud and connected to Wi-Fi
> Joseph Hudson
> 
> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7...@twc.com
> 
> Connect with me on zoom
> 
> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:22 PM, Jessica Moss  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve just recently decided to switch to Consumer Cellular, and they sent 
>> me a huge list of instructions for installing an e-sim, something I’ve 
>> never done before.  Part of this involves me needing to align my phone 
>> with an image on my computer screen, if I remember correctly, and 
>> another step involves needing to scan a QR code, and the rest I’ll need 
>> to look back at the e-mail they sent me, since it was really long.
>>  To anybody who has ever done this, how much of this will I be able to 
>> do with Voiceover, and how much will require something like a team 
>> viewer session with an Aira Agent to finish setting up?
>> 
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>> Visionaries list.
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Re: E-sims and Voiceover.

2023-12-22 Thread joseph hudson 
Well, you would have to point the phone at the computer and hope that you can 
get a good scan to activate the SIM. And two also activate or remove the Sim 
card, you need a paper clip to stick in the same tray, to remove the old Sim 
card. I hope this helps.
Joseph Hudson

EmailFaceTime/iMessage
jhud7...@twc.com

Connect with me on zoom

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> On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:38 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> So this is the bulk of the instructions they sent me so far.  
> ACTIVATE YOUR NEW ESIM TODAY WITH CONSUMER CELLULAR
> eSIM Installation
> Need Help? Give us a call: (888) 345-5509
> Wi-Fi or an existing cellular plan is required to install an eSIM. You do not 
> need a physical SIM card.
> Setup Your Cellular Service with eSIM:
> If your current device has a physical SIM card, please remove it before 
> continuing
> Turn on your phone
> Connect the phone to WiFi
> Follow the on-screen prompts or scan the QR code 
> 
>  below to begin eSIM installation
> After the eSIM has been successfully installed, you will need to restart your 
> phone.
> What's Next?
> New Numbers and Replacement Orders
> Your service is ready to go. If you are changing carriers, please note your 
> old service will no longer work.
> 
> 
> So the whole scanning of the QR code as well as me not knowing how to even 
> remove the SIM card from my phone is what I’m unsure about.
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 3:14 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> OK cool. Well, whenever you have time, give me a call 254-813-2461. And 
>> we'll see what we can come up with.
>> Joseph Hudson
>> 
>> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
>> jhud7...@twc.com
>> 
>> Connect with me on zoom
>> 
>> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:12 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’d love to talk to you more to see if we can both shed some light on this. 
>>>  Unfortunately, this is the only phone I have, so not sure what to do there.
>>> 
 On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:53 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
 
 Well, if you want, I would not mind talking with you and helping you 
 through the process. But the key to this whole thing, is you need to have 
 another phone available that you can talk to consumer cellular on. So that 
 they can give you the codes. And if you are. Upgrading your phone, the one 
 that only does eSIM. Then you'll be starting from scratch. Like I did.
 Joseph Hudson
 
 EmailFaceTime/iMessage
 jhud7...@twc.com
 
 Connect with me on zoom
 
 https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
 
> On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:45 PM, Jessica Moss  
> wrote:
> 
> This is actually my first time having done anything with an e-sim, so 
> this whole process is all new to me.  Sadly, I know nothing about how to 
> even remove/insert a SIM card, so in the past, when I switched carriers, 
> I either just took my phone to a carrier-specific store and let them do 
> it, or let Hannah (my now 14-year-old daughter,) do it, who is really 
> good with just about anything tech-related.
>   However, she’s in Orlando visiting her dad for Christmas, and things 
> got so busy right before she left, that there wasn’t time for me to ask 
> her to help then.
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:35 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, sounds like a pain in the rear process. I know whenever I switched 
>> from my iPhone SE to my iPhone 14, and I currently have spectrum, all I 
>> had to do was give them are all they had to do, was give me some numbers 
>> to put in, and my eSIM was successfully activated. If you already have 
>> an eSIM, and not using a physical Sim, on the new device, it will pop up 
>> with a thing to ask you, if you want to activate eSIM once you have 
>> signed into your iCloud and connected to Wi-Fi
>> Joseph Hudson
>> 
>> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
>> jhud7...@twc.com
>> 
>> Connect with me on zoom
>> 
>> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:22 PM, Jessica Moss  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve just recently decided to switch to Consumer Cellular, and they 
>>> sent me a huge list of instructions for installing an e-sim, something 
>>> I’ve never done before.  Part of this involves me needing to align my 
>>> phone with an image on my computer screen, if I remember correctly, and 
>>> another step involves needing to scan a QR code, and the rest I’ll need 
>>> to look back at the e-mail they sent me, since it was really long.
>>>  To anybody who has ever done this, how much of this will I be able to 
>>> do with Voiceover, and how much

RE: E-sims and Voiceover.

2023-12-22 Thread Brent Harding 
It might be possible to call them and get them to give you the manual info to 
do it without the camera. I know the whole ESIM thing used to be a battle to 
try to transfer to a new phone, but the tricky part of actually shooting the 
code with the camera is probably getting it to be on screen when one scrolls 
through the message. If one aims toward the center of the screen and backs away 
a bit, like one was scanning a piece of mail or something, it may work, and I 
did it a time or two back when, but with Verizon these days, I don’t need to do 
it that way.

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 1:36 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: E-sims and Voiceover.

 

Wow, sounds like a pain in the rear process. I know whenever I switched from my 
iPhone SE to my iPhone 14, and I currently have spectrum, all I had to do was 
give them are all they had to do, was give me some numbers to put in, and my 
eSIM was successfully activated. If you already have an eSIM, and not using a 
physical Sim, on the new device, it will pop up with a thing to ask you, if you 
want to activate eSIM once you have signed into your iCloud and connected to 
Wi-Fi

Joseph Hudson

 

EmailFaceTime/iMessage

jhud7...@twc.com <mailto:jhud7...@twc.com> 

Connect with me on zoom

 

https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09





On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:22 PM, Jessica Moss mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I’ve just recently decided to switch to Consumer Cellular, and they sent me a 
huge list of instructions for installing an e-sim, something I’ve never done 
before.  Part of this involves me needing to align my phone with an image on my 
computer screen, if I remember correctly, and another step involves needing to 
scan a QR code, and the rest I’ll need to look back at the e-mail they sent me, 
since it was really long.
 To anybody who has ever done this, how much of this will I be able to do with 
Voiceover, and how much will require something like a team viewer session with 
an Aira Agent to finish setting up?

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Re: E-sims and Voiceover.

2023-12-22 Thread Jessica Moss 
So this is the bulk of the instructions they sent me so far.  
ACTIVATE YOUR NEW ESIM TODAY WITH CONSUMER CELLULAR
eSIM Installation
Need Help? Give us a call: (888) 345-5509
Wi-Fi or an existing cellular plan is required to install an eSIM. You do not 
need a physical SIM card.
Setup Your Cellular Service with eSIM:
If your current device has a physical SIM card, please remove it before 
continuing
Turn on your phone
Connect the phone to WiFi
Follow the on-screen prompts or scan the QR code 

 below to begin eSIM installation
After the eSIM has been successfully installed, you will need to restart your 
phone.
What's Next?
New Numbers and Replacement Orders
Your service is ready to go. If you are changing carriers, please note your old 
service will no longer work.


So the whole scanning of the QR code as well as me not knowing how to even 
remove the SIM card from my phone is what I’m unsure about.

> On Dec 22, 2023, at 3:14 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> OK cool. Well, whenever you have time, give me a call 254-813-2461. And we'll 
> see what we can come up with.
> Joseph Hudson
> 
> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7...@twc.com
> 
> Connect with me on zoom
> 
> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:12 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> I’d love to talk to you more to see if we can both shed some light on this.  
>> Unfortunately, this is the only phone I have, so not sure what to do there.
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:53 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, if you want, I would not mind talking with you and helping you 
>>> through the process. But the key to this whole thing, is you need to have 
>>> another phone available that you can talk to consumer cellular on. So that 
>>> they can give you the codes. And if you are. Upgrading your phone, the one 
>>> that only does eSIM. Then you'll be starting from scratch. Like I did.
>>> Joseph Hudson
>>> 
>>> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
>>> jhud7...@twc.com
>>> 
>>> Connect with me on zoom
>>> 
>>> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
>>> 
 On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:45 PM, Jessica Moss  
 wrote:
 
 This is actually my first time having done anything with an e-sim, so this 
 whole process is all new to me.  Sadly, I know nothing about how to even 
 remove/insert a SIM card, so in the past, when I switched carriers, I 
 either just took my phone to a carrier-specific store and let them do it, 
 or let Hannah (my now 14-year-old daughter,) do it, who is really good 
 with just about anything tech-related.
   However, she’s in Orlando visiting her dad for Christmas, and things got 
 so busy right before she left, that there wasn’t time for me to ask her to 
 help then.
 
> On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:35 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Wow, sounds like a pain in the rear process. I know whenever I switched 
> from my iPhone SE to my iPhone 14, and I currently have spectrum, all I 
> had to do was give them are all they had to do, was give me some numbers 
> to put in, and my eSIM was successfully activated. If you already have an 
> eSIM, and not using a physical Sim, on the new device, it will pop up 
> with a thing to ask you, if you want to activate eSIM once you have 
> signed into your iCloud and connected to Wi-Fi
> Joseph Hudson
> 
> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7...@twc.com
> 
> Connect with me on zoom
> 
> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:22 PM, Jessica Moss  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve just recently decided to switch to Consumer Cellular, and they sent 
>> me a huge list of instructions for installing an e-sim, something I’ve 
>> never done before.  Part of this involves me needing to align my phone 
>> with an image on my computer screen, if I remember correctly, and 
>> another step involves needing to scan a QR code, and the rest I’ll need 
>> to look back at the e-mail they sent me, since it was really long.
>>  To anybody who has ever done this, how much of this will I be able to 
>> do with Voiceover, and how much will require something like a team 
>> viewer session with an Aira Agent to finish setting up?
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
>> at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara

Re: E-sims and Voiceover.

2023-12-22 Thread joseph hudson 
OK cool. Well, whenever you have time, give me a call 254-813-2461. And we'll 
see what we can come up with.
Joseph Hudson

EmailFaceTime/iMessage
jhud7...@twc.com

Connect with me on zoom

https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09

> On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:12 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> I’d love to talk to you more to see if we can both shed some light on this.  
> Unfortunately, this is the only phone I have, so not sure what to do there.
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:53 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, if you want, I would not mind talking with you and helping you through 
>> the process. But the key to this whole thing, is you need to have another 
>> phone available that you can talk to consumer cellular on. So that they can 
>> give you the codes. And if you are. Upgrading your phone, the one that only 
>> does eSIM. Then you'll be starting from scratch. Like I did.
>> Joseph Hudson
>> 
>> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
>> jhud7...@twc.com
>> 
>> Connect with me on zoom
>> 
>> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:45 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is actually my first time having done anything with an e-sim, so this 
>>> whole process is all new to me.  Sadly, I know nothing about how to even 
>>> remove/insert a SIM card, so in the past, when I switched carriers, I 
>>> either just took my phone to a carrier-specific store and let them do it, 
>>> or let Hannah (my now 14-year-old daughter,) do it, who is really good with 
>>> just about anything tech-related.
>>>   However, she’s in Orlando visiting her dad for Christmas, and things got 
>>> so busy right before she left, that there wasn’t time for me to ask her to 
>>> help then.
>>> 
 On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:35 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
 
 Wow, sounds like a pain in the rear process. I know whenever I switched 
 from my iPhone SE to my iPhone 14, and I currently have spectrum, all I 
 had to do was give them are all they had to do, was give me some numbers 
 to put in, and my eSIM was successfully activated. If you already have an 
 eSIM, and not using a physical Sim, on the new device, it will pop up with 
 a thing to ask you, if you want to activate eSIM once you have signed into 
 your iCloud and connected to Wi-Fi
 Joseph Hudson
 
 EmailFaceTime/iMessage
 jhud7...@twc.com
 
 Connect with me on zoom
 
 https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
 
> On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:22 PM, Jessica Moss  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ve just recently decided to switch to Consumer Cellular, and they sent 
> me a huge list of instructions for installing an e-sim, something I’ve 
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> back at the e-mail they sent me, since it was really long.
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Re: E-sims and Voiceover.

2023-12-22 Thread Jessica Moss 
I’d love to talk to you more to see if we can both shed some light on this.  
Unfortunately, this is the only phone I have, so not sure what to do there.

> On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:53 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Well, if you want, I would not mind talking with you and helping you through 
> the process. But the key to this whole thing, is you need to have another 
> phone available that you can talk to consumer cellular on. So that they can 
> give you the codes. And if you are. Upgrading your phone, the one that only 
> does eSIM. Then you'll be starting from scratch. Like I did.
> Joseph Hudson
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>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:45 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> This is actually my first time having done anything with an e-sim, so this 
>> whole process is all new to me.  Sadly, I know nothing about how to even 
>> remove/insert a SIM card, so in the past, when I switched carriers, I either 
>> just took my phone to a carrier-specific store and let them do it, or let 
>> Hannah (my now 14-year-old daughter,) do it, who is really good with just 
>> about anything tech-related.
>>   However, she’s in Orlando visiting her dad for Christmas, and things got 
>> so busy right before she left, that there wasn’t time for me to ask her to 
>> help then.
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:35 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow, sounds like a pain in the rear process. I know whenever I switched 
>>> from my iPhone SE to my iPhone 14, and I currently have spectrum, all I had 
>>> to do was give them are all they had to do, was give me some numbers to put 
>>> in, and my eSIM was successfully activated. If you already have an eSIM, 
>>> and not using a physical Sim, on the new device, it will pop up with a 
>>> thing to ask you, if you want to activate eSIM once you have signed into 
>>> your iCloud and connected to Wi-Fi
>>> Joseph Hudson
>>> 
>>> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
>>> jhud7...@twc.com
>>> 
>>> Connect with me on zoom
>>> 
>>> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
>>> 
 On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:22 PM, Jessica Moss  
 wrote:
 
 I’ve just recently decided to switch to Consumer Cellular, and they sent 
 me a huge list of instructions for installing an e-sim, something I’ve 
 never done before.  Part of this involves me needing to align my phone 
 with an image on my computer screen, if I remember correctly, and another 
 step involves needing to scan a QR code, and the rest I’ll need to look 
 back at the e-mail they sent me, since it was really long.
  To anybody who has ever done this, how much of this will I be able to do 
 with Voiceover, and how much will require something like a team viewer 
 session with an Aira Agent to finish setting up?
 
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Re: E-sims and Voiceover.

2023-12-22 Thread joseph hudson 
Well, if you want, I would not mind talking with you and helping you through 
the process. But the key to this whole thing, is you need to have another phone 
available that you can talk to consumer cellular on. So that they can give you 
the codes. And if you are. Upgrading your phone, the one that only does eSIM. 
Then you'll be starting from scratch. Like I did.
Joseph Hudson

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jhud7...@twc.com

Connect with me on zoom

https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09

> On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:45 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> This is actually my first time having done anything with an e-sim, so this 
> whole process is all new to me.  Sadly, I know nothing about how to even 
> remove/insert a SIM card, so in the past, when I switched carriers, I either 
> just took my phone to a carrier-specific store and let them do it, or let 
> Hannah (my now 14-year-old daughter,) do it, who is really good with just 
> about anything tech-related.
>   However, she’s in Orlando visiting her dad for Christmas, and things got so 
> busy right before she left, that there wasn’t time for me to ask her to help 
> then.
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:35 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, sounds like a pain in the rear process. I know whenever I switched from 
>> my iPhone SE to my iPhone 14, and I currently have spectrum, all I had to do 
>> was give them are all they had to do, was give me some numbers to put in, 
>> and my eSIM was successfully activated. If you already have an eSIM, and not 
>> using a physical Sim, on the new device, it will pop up with a thing to ask 
>> you, if you want to activate eSIM once you have signed into your iCloud and 
>> connected to Wi-Fi
>> Joseph Hudson
>> 
>> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
>> jhud7...@twc.com
>> 
>> Connect with me on zoom
>> 
>> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:22 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve just recently decided to switch to Consumer Cellular, and they sent me 
>>> a huge list of instructions for installing an e-sim, something I’ve never 
>>> done before.  Part of this involves me needing to align my phone with an 
>>> image on my computer screen, if I remember correctly, and another step 
>>> involves needing to scan a QR code, and the rest I’ll need to look back at 
>>> the e-mail they sent me, since it was really long.
>>>  To anybody who has ever done this, how much of this will I be able to do 
>>> with Voiceover, and how much will require something like a team viewer 
>>> session with an Aira Agent to finish setting up?
>>> 
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Re: E-sims and Voiceover.

2023-12-22 Thread Jessica Moss 
This is actually my first time having done anything with an e-sim, so this 
whole process is all new to me.  Sadly, I know nothing about how to even 
remove/insert a SIM card, so in the past, when I switched carriers, I either 
just took my phone to a carrier-specific store and let them do it, or let 
Hannah (my now 14-year-old daughter,) do it, who is really good with just about 
anything tech-related.
  However, she’s in Orlando visiting her dad for Christmas, and things got so 
busy right before she left, that there wasn’t time for me to ask her to help 
then.

> On Dec 22, 2023, at 2:35 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Wow, sounds like a pain in the rear process. I know whenever I switched from 
> my iPhone SE to my iPhone 14, and I currently have spectrum, all I had to do 
> was give them are all they had to do, was give me some numbers to put in, and 
> my eSIM was successfully activated. If you already have an eSIM, and not 
> using a physical Sim, on the new device, it will pop up with a thing to ask 
> you, if you want to activate eSIM once you have signed into your iCloud and 
> connected to Wi-Fi
> Joseph Hudson
> 
> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7...@twc.com
> 
> Connect with me on zoom
> 
> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:22 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve just recently decided to switch to Consumer Cellular, and they sent me 
>> a huge list of instructions for installing an e-sim, something I’ve never 
>> done before.  Part of this involves me needing to align my phone with an 
>> image on my computer screen, if I remember correctly, and another step 
>> involves needing to scan a QR code, and the rest I’ll need to look back at 
>> the e-mail they sent me, since it was really long.
>>  To anybody who has ever done this, how much of this will I be able to do 
>> with Voiceover, and how much will require something like a team viewer 
>> session with an Aira Agent to finish setting up?
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Re: E-sims and Voiceover.

2023-12-22 Thread joseph hudson 
Wow, sounds like a pain in the rear process. I know whenever I switched from my 
iPhone SE to my iPhone 14, and I currently have spectrum, all I had to do was 
give them are all they had to do, was give me some numbers to put in, and my 
eSIM was successfully activated. If you already have an eSIM, and not using a 
physical Sim, on the new device, it will pop up with a thing to ask you, if you 
want to activate eSIM once you have signed into your iCloud and connected to 
Wi-Fi
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> On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:22 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> I’ve just recently decided to switch to Consumer Cellular, and they sent me a 
> huge list of instructions for installing an e-sim, something I’ve never done 
> before.  Part of this involves me needing to align my phone with an image on 
> my computer screen, if I remember correctly, and another step involves 
> needing to scan a QR code, and the rest I’ll need to look back at the e-mail 
> they sent me, since it was really long.
>  To anybody who has ever done this, how much of this will I be able to do 
> with Voiceover, and how much will require something like a team viewer 
> session with an Aira Agent to finish setting up?
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