RE: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi David,

 This link and further investigation has put me on to  the Adonit Jot Script 2 
which is seemingly still rated as the number 1 stylus for the IOS iPad and 
iPhone

Problem is it's three times the price of the Jot Pro.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 11:03 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

The following link is for a stylus which my partner says is the best stylus 
available for the iDevice.

https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/adonit-jot-pro-stylus-with-dampening-tip-gun-metal-grey-adonit/?utm_source=google_medium=product_listing_ads=CjwKEAjw8bO3BRDp0bP_vL-7_lASJACL_d6w1YBNjCAlovjOzTWHKzV9q_kDHvkBdlth0YSfuDhrgRoCwRfw_wcB

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 20 Mar 2016, at 10:26, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Word seemed to be doing ok when I tried handwriting in it.
> 
> I'm goin g to try pages also, I just need something to take notes with during 
> meetings and my handwriting is faster than my typing.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 12:11 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> Notes Plus is an app which has handwriting recognition in it. The handwriting 
> recognition part is an in-app purchase above the $11 AUD price for the app. 
> However, the menus are the only part of the app which is accessible. For the 
> sighted, Notes Plus translates handwriting into computer text. It works well 
> for low vision people in school as well.
> 
> You cannot handwrite in any app we know of with VoiceOver running. The app, 7 
> Nots HD, Prem will allow VoiceOver to read what was written, but VO blocks 
> the ability to write in the app whilst VO is running.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 23:55, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah I've been looking at a couple
>> Bamboo paper and MyScript note are a couple but yeah not overly friendly, 
>> why these apps can't be accessible I can't figure out.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>> Chittenden
>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 3:56 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> I am never sure of anything. My understanding is that they are using a 
>> third-party handwriting recognition app. I will check with some sighted 
>> people. iOS now permits installation of third-party keyboards (a fact which 
>> locked me out from using the onscreen keyboard on my iPhone last year 
>> because many of them are completely inaccessible).
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:58, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are you sure?
>>> 
>>> I have sighted associates that use handwriting on their iPads without 
>>> voiceover!
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>> Chittenden
>>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 9:54 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>> 
>>> Handwriting works only with VoiceOver. It is not a standard input method 
>>> for iOS.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 02:36, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I found that with the stylus I had to press harder than I would if I was 
>>>> writing with a pen. It wasn’t a natural thing. then again, writing using 
>>>> your finger isn’t necessarily natural either. 
>>>> 
>>>> As you note, David, the 6S and beyond have the pressure sensitive screen 
>>>> for other uses and that really messed with using a stylus for handwriting. 
>>>> I’ve never triggered 3D touch using my finger for handwriting but using 
>&g

RE: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi David,

Yeah was looking lastnight at that.

Was also reading the specs on the stylus again and believe it's a device  I may 
have had recently.

 It seems to say it has a disk at the writing end which sits flat on the screan 
and then you move it around to move the tip of the stylus around the screan.

If it is that device I'm thinking of then it's easy to break or was when I had 
one.

 Which is wy I'm looking but for the price might be worth checking out.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2016 9:46 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

'Check on Kogan's website and see if they will ship to NZ. Given that they ship 
to some Asian countries, I would not be surprised if they do.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 22 Mar 2016, at 20:12, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for this Dave,
> 
> Can't seem to find it in NZ but will get a friend to pick one up in aus for 
> me.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 11:03 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> The following link is for a stylus which my partner says is the best stylus 
> available for the iDevice.
> 
> https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/adonit-jot-pro-stylus-with-dampening-tip-
> gun-metal-grey-adonit/?utm_source=google_medium=product_listing_ad
> s=CjwKEAjw8bO3BRDp0bP_vL-7_lASJACL_d6w1YBNjCAlovjOzTWHKzV9q_kDHv
> kBdlth0YSfuDhrgRoCwRfw_wcB
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 20 Mar 2016, at 10:26, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Word seemed to be doing ok when I tried handwriting in it.
>> 
>> I'm goin g to try pages also, I just need something to take notes with 
>> during meetings and my handwriting is faster than my typing.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>> Chittenden
>> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 12:11 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> Notes Plus is an app which has handwriting recognition in it. The 
>> handwriting recognition part is an in-app purchase above the $11 AUD price 
>> for the app. However, the menus are the only part of the app which is 
>> accessible. For the sighted, Notes Plus translates handwriting into computer 
>> text. It works well for low vision people in school as well.
>> 
>> You cannot handwrite in any app we know of with VoiceOver running. The app, 
>> 7 Nots HD, Prem will allow VoiceOver to read what was written, but VO blocks 
>> the ability to write in the app whilst VO is running.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 23:55, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah I've been looking at a couple
>>> Bamboo paper and MyScript note are a couple but yeah not overly friendly, 
>>> why these apps can't be accessible I can't figure out.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>> Chittenden
>>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 3:56 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>> 
>>> I am never sure of anything. My understanding is that they are using a 
>>> third-party handwriting recognition app. I will check with some sighted 
>>> people. iOS now permits installation of third-party keyboards (a fact which 
>>> locked me out from using the onscreen keyboard on my iPhone last year 
>>> because many of them are completely inaccessible).
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:58, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Are you sure?
>>>> 
>>>> I have sighted associates that use handwriting on their iPads without 
>>>> voiceover!
&g

Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[David Chittenden]

'Check on Kogan's website and see if they will ship to NZ. Given that they ship 
to some Asian countries, I would not be surprised if they do.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 22 Mar 2016, at 20:12, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for this Dave,
> 
> Can't seem to find it in NZ but will get a friend to pick one up in aus for 
> me.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 11:03 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> The following link is for a stylus which my partner says is the best stylus 
> available for the iDevice.
> 
> https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/adonit-jot-pro-stylus-with-dampening-tip-gun-metal-grey-adonit/?utm_source=google_medium=product_listing_ads=CjwKEAjw8bO3BRDp0bP_vL-7_lASJACL_d6w1YBNjCAlovjOzTWHKzV9q_kDHvkBdlth0YSfuDhrgRoCwRfw_wcB
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 20 Mar 2016, at 10:26, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Word seemed to be doing ok when I tried handwriting in it.
>> 
>> I'm goin g to try pages also, I just need something to take notes with 
>> during meetings and my handwriting is faster than my typing.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 12:11 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> Notes Plus is an app which has handwriting recognition in it. The 
>> handwriting recognition part is an in-app purchase above the $11 AUD price 
>> for the app. However, the menus are the only part of the app which is 
>> accessible. For the sighted, Notes Plus translates handwriting into computer 
>> text. It works well for low vision people in school as well.
>> 
>> You cannot handwrite in any app we know of with VoiceOver running. The app, 
>> 7 Nots HD, Prem will allow VoiceOver to read what was written, but VO blocks 
>> the ability to write in the app whilst VO is running.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 23:55, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah I've been looking at a couple
>>> Bamboo paper and MyScript note are a couple but yeah not overly friendly, 
>>> why these apps can't be accessible I can't figure out.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>> Chittenden
>>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 3:56 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>> 
>>> I am never sure of anything. My understanding is that they are using a 
>>> third-party handwriting recognition app. I will check with some sighted 
>>> people. iOS now permits installation of third-party keyboards (a fact which 
>>> locked me out from using the onscreen keyboard on my iPhone last year 
>>> because many of them are completely inaccessible).
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:58, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Are you sure?
>>>> 
>>>> I have sighted associates that use handwriting on their iPads without 
>>>> voiceover!
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>>> Chittenden
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 9:54 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> Handwriting works only with VoiceOver. It is not a standard input method 
>>>> for iOS.
>>>> 
>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> 

RE: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

Thanks for this Dave,

Can't seem to find it in NZ but will get a friend to pick one up in aus for me.

 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 11:03 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

The following link is for a stylus which my partner says is the best stylus 
available for the iDevice.

https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/adonit-jot-pro-stylus-with-dampening-tip-gun-metal-grey-adonit/?utm_source=google_medium=product_listing_ads=CjwKEAjw8bO3BRDp0bP_vL-7_lASJACL_d6w1YBNjCAlovjOzTWHKzV9q_kDHvkBdlth0YSfuDhrgRoCwRfw_wcB

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 20 Mar 2016, at 10:26, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Word seemed to be doing ok when I tried handwriting in it.
> 
> I'm goin g to try pages also, I just need something to take notes with during 
> meetings and my handwriting is faster than my typing.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 12:11 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> Notes Plus is an app which has handwriting recognition in it. The handwriting 
> recognition part is an in-app purchase above the $11 AUD price for the app. 
> However, the menus are the only part of the app which is accessible. For the 
> sighted, Notes Plus translates handwriting into computer text. It works well 
> for low vision people in school as well.
> 
> You cannot handwrite in any app we know of with VoiceOver running. The app, 7 
> Nots HD, Prem will allow VoiceOver to read what was written, but VO blocks 
> the ability to write in the app whilst VO is running.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 23:55, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah I've been looking at a couple
>> Bamboo paper and MyScript note are a couple but yeah not overly friendly, 
>> why these apps can't be accessible I can't figure out.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>> Chittenden
>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 3:56 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> I am never sure of anything. My understanding is that they are using a 
>> third-party handwriting recognition app. I will check with some sighted 
>> people. iOS now permits installation of third-party keyboards (a fact which 
>> locked me out from using the onscreen keyboard on my iPhone last year 
>> because many of them are completely inaccessible).
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:58, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are you sure?
>>> 
>>> I have sighted associates that use handwriting on their iPads without 
>>> voiceover!
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>> Chittenden
>>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 9:54 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>> 
>>> Handwriting works only with VoiceOver. It is not a standard input method 
>>> for iOS.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 02:36, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I found that with the stylus I had to press harder than I would if I was 
>>>> writing with a pen. It wasn’t a natural thing. then again, writing using 
>>>> your finger isn’t necessarily natural either. 
>>>> 
>>>> As you note, David, the 6S and beyond have the pressure sensitive screen 
>>>> for other uses and that really messed with using a stylus for handwriting. 
>>>> I’ve never triggered 3D touch using my finger for handwriting but using 
>>>> the stylus, I did so often. 
>>>> 
>>>> Here’s a question. Does handwriting work without VO

Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Jenine Stanley]

Oh I completely agree with that app being a bargain at twice the price. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Mar 19, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Great thanks, I'll have a look at that later.
> 
> I've downloaded just press to record and it's great, I can't wait to put it 
> into action during eetings at work.
> 
> 
> And as easy as it is to use and  how it works, I'd pay twice as much as it 
> cost.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 10:42 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> Oh yes, Do It Write is specifically designed to help blind people practice 
> handwriting.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2016, at 5:29 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jenine,
>> 
>> So that do it write is an accessible app ?
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
>> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 2:39 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> David’s correct here. It must say the letter. Mine will say “Not recognized” 
>> and I know I’ve got the phone slanted somehow. I find the larger screen area 
>> of the 6S harder to write on as I tend to slant things. I can go fairly 
>> quickly and accurately on my 5S. Also be sure you are in the middle of the 
>> screen. 
>> 
>> Not sure if this app is still in the App Store but Do It Write (note 
>> spelling of the last word) is an app that let’s you practice handwriting. It 
>> really helped me initially since it had been years since I’d written print. 
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2016, at 7:00 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It may not be recognising your s.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 23:53, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Interesting that it only works on a app for which I've got one starting 
>>>> with that letter.
>>>> 
>>>> I can't get it to find anything starting with S for which I've got at 
>>>> least 6 apps sonos and spotify   aren't showing up.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>>> Chittenden
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 3:52 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> Whilst on the home screen, turn the rotor to handwriting. draw the first 
>>>> letter , and then each subsequent letter, of the app name. At any time, 
>>>> use a two-finger flick down to cycle through the matching apps. Double-tap 
>>>> to open the selected app.
>>>> 
>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>> 
>>>>> So you can use it to open apps on your device?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I didn't know that one.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>>>> Chittenden
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 2:02 AM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am slow at handwriting (finger printing), so I mainly use it on the 
>>>>> homescreens to locate and open apps. I occasionally use it in messages.
>>>>> 
>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>>> Sent f

Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[David Chittenden]

Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use a 
three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
punctuation.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
> 
> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
> 
> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for picking oup 
> their handwriting 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Simon F
> 
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RE: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi David,

 Thanks for that, I'll have a look.

I was looking at the Wacom Bamboo stylus Fineline 2, which appears to be 
Bluetooth enabled for connection to your tablet
But I'll check on that tomorrow with a colleague.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 11:03 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

The following link is for a stylus which my partner says is the best stylus 
available for the iDevice.

https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/adonit-jot-pro-stylus-with-dampening-tip-gun-metal-grey-adonit/?utm_source=google_medium=product_listing_ads=CjwKEAjw8bO3BRDp0bP_vL-7_lASJACL_d6w1YBNjCAlovjOzTWHKzV9q_kDHvkBdlth0YSfuDhrgRoCwRfw_wcB

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 20 Mar 2016, at 10:26, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Word seemed to be doing ok when I tried handwriting in it.
> 
> I'm goin g to try pages also, I just need something to take notes with during 
> meetings and my handwriting is faster than my typing.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 12:11 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> Notes Plus is an app which has handwriting recognition in it. The handwriting 
> recognition part is an in-app purchase above the $11 AUD price for the app. 
> However, the menus are the only part of the app which is accessible. For the 
> sighted, Notes Plus translates handwriting into computer text. It works well 
> for low vision people in school as well.
> 
> You cannot handwrite in any app we know of with VoiceOver running. The app, 7 
> Nots HD, Prem will allow VoiceOver to read what was written, but VO blocks 
> the ability to write in the app whilst VO is running.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 23:55, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah I've been looking at a couple
>> Bamboo paper and MyScript note are a couple but yeah not overly friendly, 
>> why these apps can't be accessible I can't figure out.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>> Chittenden
>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 3:56 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> I am never sure of anything. My understanding is that they are using a 
>> third-party handwriting recognition app. I will check with some sighted 
>> people. iOS now permits installation of third-party keyboards (a fact which 
>> locked me out from using the onscreen keyboard on my iPhone last year 
>> because many of them are completely inaccessible).
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:58, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are you sure?
>>> 
>>> I have sighted associates that use handwriting on their iPads without 
>>> voiceover!
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>> Chittenden
>>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 9:54 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>> 
>>> Handwriting works only with VoiceOver. It is not a standard input method 
>>> for iOS.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 02:36, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I found that with the stylus I had to press harder than I would if I was 
>>>> writing with a pen. It wasn’t a natural thing. then again, writing using 
>>>> your finger isn’t necessarily natural either. 
>>>> 
>>>> As you note, David, the 6S and beyond have the pressure sensitive screen 
>>>> for other uses and that really messed with using a stylus for handwriting. 
>>>> I’ve never triggered 3D touch using my finger for handwriting but using 
>>>>

RE: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

Great thanks, I'll have a look at that later.

I've downloaded just press to record and it's great, I can't wait to put it 
into action during eetings at work.


And as easy as it is to use and  how it works, I'd pay twice as much as it cost.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 10:42 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

Oh yes, Do It Write is specifically designed to help blind people practice 
handwriting.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Mar 19, 2016, at 5:29 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jenine,
> 
> So that do it write is an accessible app ?
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 2:39 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> David’s correct here. It must say the letter. Mine will say “Not recognized” 
> and I know I’ve got the phone slanted somehow. I find the larger screen area 
> of the 6S harder to write on as I tend to slant things. I can go fairly 
> quickly and accurately on my 5S. Also be sure you are in the middle of the 
> screen. 
> 
> Not sure if this app is still in the App Store but Do It Write (note spelling 
> of the last word) is an app that let’s you practice handwriting. It really 
> helped me initially since it had been years since I’d written print. 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2016, at 7:00 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It may not be recognising your s.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 23:53, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Interesting that it only works on a app for which I've got one starting 
>>> with that letter.
>>> 
>>> I can't get it to find anything starting with S for which I've got at least 
>>> 6 apps sonos and spotify   aren't showing up.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>> Chittenden
>>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 3:52 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>> 
>>> Whilst on the home screen, turn the rotor to handwriting. draw the first 
>>> letter , and then each subsequent letter, of the app name. At any time, use 
>>> a two-finger flick down to cycle through the matching apps. Double-tap to 
>>> open the selected app.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi David,
>>>> 
>>>> So you can use it to open apps on your device?
>>>> 
>>>> I didn't know that one.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>>> Chittenden
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 2:02 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> I am slow at handwriting (finger printing), so I mainly use it on the 
>>>> homescreens to locate and open apps. I occasionally use it in messages.
>>>> 
>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:01, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, I've 
>>>>> tried it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic 
>>>>> I was hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus 
>>>>> of decent quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Jenine Stanley]

Oh yes, Do It Write is specifically designed to help blind people practice 
handwriting.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Mar 19, 2016, at 5:29 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jenine,
> 
> So that do it write is an accessible app ?
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 2:39 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> David’s correct here. It must say the letter. Mine will say “Not recognized” 
> and I know I’ve got the phone slanted somehow. I find the larger screen area 
> of the 6S harder to write on as I tend to slant things. I can go fairly 
> quickly and accurately on my 5S. Also be sure you are in the middle of the 
> screen. 
> 
> Not sure if this app is still in the App Store but Do It Write (note spelling 
> of the last word) is an app that let’s you practice handwriting. It really 
> helped me initially since it had been years since I’d written print. 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2016, at 7:00 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It may not be recognising your s.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 23:53, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Interesting that it only works on a app for which I've got one starting 
>>> with that letter.
>>> 
>>> I can't get it to find anything starting with S for which I've got at least 
>>> 6 apps sonos and spotify   aren't showing up.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>> Chittenden
>>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 3:52 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>> 
>>> Whilst on the home screen, turn the rotor to handwriting. draw the first 
>>> letter , and then each subsequent letter, of the app name. At any time, use 
>>> a two-finger flick down to cycle through the matching apps. Double-tap to 
>>> open the selected app.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi David,
>>>> 
>>>> So you can use it to open apps on your device?
>>>> 
>>>> I didn't know that one.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>>> Chittenden
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 2:02 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> I am slow at handwriting (finger printing), so I mainly use it on the 
>>>> homescreens to locate and open apps. I occasionally use it in messages.
>>>> 
>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:01, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, I've 
>>>>> tried it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I 
>>>>> was hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of 
>>>>> decent quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>>>> Chittenden
>>>>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. 
>>>>> Use a three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the 
>

Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[David Chittenden]

The following link is for a stylus which my partner says is the best stylus 
available for the iDevice.

https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/adonit-jot-pro-stylus-with-dampening-tip-gun-metal-grey-adonit/?utm_source=google_medium=product_listing_ads=CjwKEAjw8bO3BRDp0bP_vL-7_lASJACL_d6w1YBNjCAlovjOzTWHKzV9q_kDHvkBdlth0YSfuDhrgRoCwRfw_wcB

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 20 Mar 2016, at 10:26, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Word seemed to be doing ok when I tried handwriting in it.
> 
> I'm goin g to try pages also, I just need something to take notes with during 
> meetings and my handwriting is faster than my typing.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 12:11 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> Notes Plus is an app which has handwriting recognition in it. The handwriting 
> recognition part is an in-app purchase above the $11 AUD price for the app. 
> However, the menus are the only part of the app which is accessible. For the 
> sighted, Notes Plus translates handwriting into computer text. It works well 
> for low vision people in school as well.
> 
> You cannot handwrite in any app we know of with VoiceOver running. The app, 7 
> Nots HD, Prem will allow VoiceOver to read what was written, but VO blocks 
> the ability to write in the app whilst VO is running.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 23:55, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah I've been looking at a couple
>> Bamboo paper and MyScript note are a couple but yeah not overly friendly, 
>> why these apps can't be accessible I can't figure out.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 3:56 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> I am never sure of anything. My understanding is that they are using a 
>> third-party handwriting recognition app. I will check with some sighted 
>> people. iOS now permits installation of third-party keyboards (a fact which 
>> locked me out from using the onscreen keyboard on my iPhone last year 
>> because many of them are completely inaccessible).
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:58, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are you sure?
>>> 
>>> I have sighted associates that use handwriting on their iPads without 
>>> voiceover!
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>> Chittenden
>>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 9:54 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>> 
>>> Handwriting works only with VoiceOver. It is not a standard input method 
>>> for iOS.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 02:36, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I found that with the stylus I had to press harder than I would if I was 
>>>> writing with a pen. It wasn’t a natural thing. then again, writing using 
>>>> your finger isn’t necessarily natural either. 
>>>> 
>>>> As you note, David, the 6S and beyond have the pressure sensitive screen 
>>>> for other uses and that really messed with using a stylus for handwriting. 
>>>> I’ve never triggered 3D touch using my finger for handwriting but using 
>>>> the stylus, I did so often. 
>>>> 
>>>> Here’s a question. Does handwriting work without VO? I’d assume so and of 
>>>> course would never use it that way. 
>>>> Jenine Stanley
>>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 9:05 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>

RE: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Jenine,

 So that do it write is an accessible app ?

Cheers.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 2:39 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

David’s correct here. It must say the letter. Mine will say “Not recognized” 
and I know I’ve got the phone slanted somehow. I find the larger screen area of 
the 6S harder to write on as I tend to slant things. I can go fairly quickly 
and accurately on my 5S. Also be sure you are in the middle of the screen. 

Not sure if this app is still in the App Store but Do It Write (note spelling 
of the last word) is an app that let’s you practice handwriting. It really 
helped me initially since it had been years since I’d written print. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Mar 19, 2016, at 7:00 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It may not be recognising your s.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 23:53, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting that it only works on a app for which I've got one starting with 
>> that letter.
>> 
>> I can't get it to find anything starting with S for which I've got at least 
>> 6 apps sonos and spotify   aren't showing up.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>> Chittenden
>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 3:52 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> Whilst on the home screen, turn the rotor to handwriting. draw the first 
>> letter , and then each subsequent letter, of the app name. At any time, use 
>> a two-finger flick down to cycle through the matching apps. Double-tap to 
>> open the selected app.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi David,
>>> 
>>> So you can use it to open apps on your device?
>>> 
>>> I didn't know that one.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>> Chittenden
>>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 2:02 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>> 
>>> I am slow at handwriting (finger printing), so I mainly use it on the 
>>> homescreens to locate and open apps. I occasionally use it in messages.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:01, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, I've 
>>>> tried it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I 
>>>> was hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of 
>>>> decent quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>>> Chittenden
>>>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use 
>>>> a three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
>>>> punctuation.
>>>> 
>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for 
>>>>> picking oup their handwriting
>

RE: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

I don't have one but we have one at work that I'm having a try with tomorrow so 
I'll see how it goes.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Ben J. Bloomgren
Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 12:27 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

Does anybody have an iPad Pro with that pen? How would that work?

Ben
- Original Message - 
From: "Jenine Stanley" <dragonwalke...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 04:52
Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone


I’ve tried playing with it using the Notes app and recently tried it with an 
inexpensive stylus with poor results. I’m thinking it’s more a pressure 
issue with any stylus. It seems to work much better using just the finger.

I use it to bring up apps, to occasionally jot down phone numbers, though 
this is less used now that I have just Press Record for my Watch.

I have a friend who uses it when writing texts and email on her phone and 
she swears by it with just her finger.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Mar 18, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>
> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better,
> I've tried it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I 
> was hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of decent 
> quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>
> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use 
> a three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
> punctuation.
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi List,
>>
>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or 
>> iPad?
>>
>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for picking 
>> oup their handwriting
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> Simon F
>>
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RE: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

Word seemed to be doing ok when I tried handwriting in it.

 I'm goin g to try pages also, I just need something to take notes with during 
meetings and my handwriting is faster than my typing.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 12:11 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

Notes Plus is an app which has handwriting recognition in it. The handwriting 
recognition part is an in-app purchase above the $11 AUD price for the app. 
However, the menus are the only part of the app which is accessible. For the 
sighted, Notes Plus translates handwriting into computer text. It works well 
for low vision people in school as well.

You cannot handwrite in any app we know of with VoiceOver running. The app, 7 
Nots HD, Prem will allow VoiceOver to read what was written, but VO blocks the 
ability to write in the app whilst VO is running.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Mar 2016, at 23:55, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Yeah I've been looking at a couple
> Bamboo paper and MyScript note are a couple but yeah not overly friendly, why 
> these apps can't be accessible I can't figure out.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 3:56 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> I am never sure of anything. My understanding is that they are using a 
> third-party handwriting recognition app. I will check with some sighted 
> people. iOS now permits installation of third-party keyboards (a fact which 
> locked me out from using the onscreen keyboard on my iPhone last year because 
> many of them are completely inaccessible).
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:58, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Are you sure?
>> 
>> I have sighted associates that use handwriting on their iPads without 
>> voiceover!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>> Chittenden
>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 9:54 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> Handwriting works only with VoiceOver. It is not a standard input method for 
>> iOS.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 02:36, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I found that with the stylus I had to press harder than I would if I was 
>>> writing with a pen. It wasn’t a natural thing. then again, writing using 
>>> your finger isn’t necessarily natural either. 
>>> 
>>> As you note, David, the 6S and beyond have the pressure sensitive screen 
>>> for other uses and that really messed with using a stylus for handwriting. 
>>> I’ve never triggered 3D touch using my finger for handwriting but using the 
>>> stylus, I did so often. 
>>> 
>>> Here’s a question. Does handwriting work without VO? I’d assume so and of 
>>> course would never use it that way. 
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 9:05 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Increased pressure would not make a difference. The iDevice screen is 
>>>> capacitive. The iPhone 6 S is pressure sensitive for different ways of 
>>>> activating buttons in apps that support it.
>>>> 
>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:52, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve tried playing with it using the Notes app and recently tried it with 
>>>>> an inexpensive stylus with poor results. I’m thinking it’s more a 
>>>>> pressure issue with any stylus. It seems to work much better using just 
>>>>> the finger. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use it to bring up 

RE: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

Are you sure?

I have sighted associates that use handwriting on their iPads without voiceover!

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 9:54 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

Handwriting works only with VoiceOver. It is not a standard input method for 
iOS.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Mar 2016, at 02:36, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I found that with the stylus I had to press harder than I would if I was 
> writing with a pen. It wasn’t a natural thing. then again, writing using your 
> finger isn’t necessarily natural either. 
> 
> As you note, David, the 6S and beyond have the pressure sensitive screen for 
> other uses and that really messed with using a stylus for handwriting. I’ve 
> never triggered 3D touch using my finger for handwriting but using the 
> stylus, I did so often. 
> 
> Here’s a question. Does handwriting work without VO? I’d assume so and of 
> course would never use it that way. 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 9:05 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Increased pressure would not make a difference. The iDevice screen is 
>> capacitive. The iPhone 6 S is pressure sensitive for different ways of 
>> activating buttons in apps that support it.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:52, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve tried playing with it using the Notes app and recently tried it with 
>>> an inexpensive stylus with poor results. I’m thinking it’s more a pressure 
>>> issue with any stylus. It seems to work much better using just the finger. 
>>> 
>>> I use it to bring up apps, to occasionally jot down phone numbers, though 
>>> this is less used now that I have just Press Record for my Watch. 
>>> 
>>> I have a friend who uses it when writing texts and email on her phone and 
>>> she swears by it with just her finger.
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, I've 
>>>> tried it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I 
>>>> was hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of 
>>>> decent quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>>> Chittenden
>>>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use 
>>>> a three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
>>>> punctuation.
>>>> 
>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for 
>>>>> picking oup their handwriting
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Simon F
>>>>> 
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RE: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, 
I've tried it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I was 
hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of decent quality 
that I can write like using a pen and paper,



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use a 
three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
punctuation.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
> 
> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
> 
> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for picking oup 
> their handwriting 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Simon F
> 
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Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Jenine Stanley]

David’s correct here. It must say the letter. Mine will say “Not recognized” 
and I know I’ve got the phone slanted somehow. I find the larger screen area of 
the 6S harder to write on as I tend to slant things. I can go fairly quickly 
and accurately on my 5S. Also be sure you are in the middle of the screen. 

Not sure if this app is still in the App Store but Do It Write (note spelling 
of the last word) is an app that let’s you practice handwriting. It really 
helped me initially since it had been years since I’d written print. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Mar 19, 2016, at 7:00 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It may not be recognising your s.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 23:53, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting that it only works on a app for which I've got one starting with 
>> that letter.
>> 
>> I can't get it to find anything starting with S for which I've got at least 
>> 6 apps sonos and spotify   aren't showing up.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 3:52 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> Whilst on the home screen, turn the rotor to handwriting. draw the first 
>> letter , and then each subsequent letter, of the app name. At any time, use 
>> a two-finger flick down to cycle through the matching apps. Double-tap to 
>> open the selected app.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi David,
>>> 
>>> So you can use it to open apps on your device?
>>> 
>>> I didn't know that one.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 2:02 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>> 
>>> I am slow at handwriting (finger printing), so I mainly use it on the 
>>> homescreens to locate and open apps. I occasionally use it in messages.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:01, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, I've tried 
>>>> it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I was 
>>>> hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of 
>>>> decent quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>>> Chittenden
>>>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use 
>>>> a three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
>>>> punctuation.
>>>> 
>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for 
>>>>> picking oup their handwriting
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Simon F
>>>>> 
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Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Jenine Stanley]

When in the handwriting mode, you can also flick to the left to erase a letter 
and do a 3-finger flick up or down to change to upper case and/or numbers and 
symbols. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Mar 18, 2016, at 10:52 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Whilst on the home screen, turn the rotor to handwriting. draw the first 
> letter , and then each subsequent letter, of the app name. At any time, use a 
> two-finger flick down to cycle through the matching apps. Double-tap to open 
> the selected app.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi David,
>> 
>> So you can use it to open apps on your device?
>> 
>> I didn't know that one.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 2:02 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> I am slow at handwriting (finger printing), so I mainly use it on the 
>> homescreens to locate and open apps. I occasionally use it in messages.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:01, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, I've tried 
>>> it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I was 
>>> hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of decent 
>>> quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>> 
>>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use 
>>> a three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
>>> punctuation.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi List,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
>>>> 
>>>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for 
>>>> picking oup their handwriting
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Simon F
>>>> 
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Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Ben J. Bloomgren]

Does anybody have an iPad Pro with that pen? How would that work?

Ben
- Original Message - 
From: "Jenine Stanley" <dragonwalke...@gmail.com>

To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 04:52
Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone


I’ve tried playing with it using the Notes app and recently tried it with an 
inexpensive stylus with poor results. I’m thinking it’s more a pressure 
issue with any stylus. It seems to work much better using just the finger.


I use it to bring up apps, to occasionally jot down phone numbers, though 
this is less used now that I have just Press Record for my Watch.


I have a friend who uses it when writing texts and email on her phone and 
she swears by it with just her finger.

Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com




On Mar 18, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Yes but in which application does handwriting work better,
I've tried it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I 
was hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of decent 
quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,




-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden

Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use 
a three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
punctuation.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Hi List,

I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or 
iPad?


If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for picking 
oup their handwriting


Cheers,


Simon F

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Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[David Chittenden]

Use the two finger flick from right to left to backspace / delete the just 
written letter. Use two finger swipe from left to right for space, right to 
left for delete / backspace, and three-finger swipe down or up to change 
between upercase, lowercase, numbers, and punctuation. When I just tried it, my 
s was recognised as a g. I need to practice more. However, I love braille 
screen input, so keep putting the practice off.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 20 Mar 2016, at 00:02, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Yeah it says S,
> Then if I write O as well it's not showing anything but it says both 
> letters.letters L P T I all seem to work great but it appears to be curved 
> letters.
> C didn' work either.
> 
> Oh well I'll keep trying.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 12:00 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> It may not be recognising your s.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 23:53, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting that it only works on a app for which I've got one starting with 
>> that letter.
>> 
>> I can't get it to find anything starting with S for which I've got at least 
>> 6 apps sonos and spotify   aren't showing up.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 3:52 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> Whilst on the home screen, turn the rotor to handwriting. draw the first 
>> letter , and then each subsequent letter, of the app name. At any time, use 
>> a two-finger flick down to cycle through the matching apps. Double-tap to 
>> open the selected app.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi David,
>>> 
>>> So you can use it to open apps on your device?
>>> 
>>> I didn't know that one.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>> Chittenden
>>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 2:02 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>> 
>>> I am slow at handwriting (finger printing), so I mainly use it on the 
>>> homescreens to locate and open apps. I occasionally use it in messages.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:01, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, I've 
>>>> tried it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I 
>>>> was hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of 
>>>> decent quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>>> Chittenden
>>>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use 
>>>> a three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
>>>> punctuation.
>>>> 
>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhon

Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[David Chittenden]

Notes Plus is an app which has handwriting recognition in it. The handwriting 
recognition part is an in-app purchase above the $11 AUD price for the app. 
However, the menus are the only part of the app which is accessible. For the 
sighted, Notes Plus translates handwriting into computer text. It works well 
for low vision people in school as well.

You cannot handwrite in any app we know of with VoiceOver running. The app, 7 
Nots HD, Prem will allow VoiceOver to read what was written, but VO blocks the 
ability to write in the app whilst VO is running.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Mar 2016, at 23:55, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Yeah I've been looking at a couple  
> Bamboo paper and MyScript note are a couple but yeah not overly friendly, why 
> these apps can't be accessible I can't figure out.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 3:56 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> I am never sure of anything. My understanding is that they are using a 
> third-party handwriting recognition app. I will check with some sighted 
> people. iOS now permits installation of third-party keyboards (a fact which 
> locked me out from using the onscreen keyboard on my iPhone last year because 
> many of them are completely inaccessible).
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:58, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Are you sure?
>> 
>> I have sighted associates that use handwriting on their iPads without 
>> voiceover!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 9:54 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> Handwriting works only with VoiceOver. It is not a standard input method for 
>> iOS.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 02:36, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I found that with the stylus I had to press harder than I would if I was 
>>> writing with a pen. It wasn’t a natural thing. then again, writing using 
>>> your finger isn’t necessarily natural either. 
>>> 
>>> As you note, David, the 6S and beyond have the pressure sensitive screen 
>>> for other uses and that really messed with using a stylus for handwriting. 
>>> I’ve never triggered 3D touch using my finger for handwriting but using the 
>>> stylus, I did so often. 
>>> 
>>> Here’s a question. Does handwriting work without VO? I’d assume so and of 
>>> course would never use it that way. 
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 9:05 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Increased pressure would not make a difference. The iDevice screen is 
>>>> capacitive. The iPhone 6 S is pressure sensitive for different ways of 
>>>> activating buttons in apps that support it.
>>>> 
>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:52, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve tried playing with it using the Notes app and recently tried it with 
>>>>> an inexpensive stylus with poor results. I’m thinking it’s more a 
>>>>> pressure issue with any stylus. It seems to work much better using just 
>>>>> the finger. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use it to bring up apps, to occasionally jot down phone numbers, though 
>>>>> this is less used now that I have just Press Record for my Watch. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a friend who uses it when writing texts and email on her phone and 
>>>>> she swears by it with just her finger.
>>>>> Jenine Stanley
>>>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>

RE: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah it says S,
 Then if I write O as well it's not showing anything but it says both 
letters.letters L P T I all seem to work great but it appears to be curved 
letters.
C didn' work either.

Oh well I'll keep trying.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 12:00 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

It may not be recognising your s.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Mar 2016, at 23:53, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Interesting that it only works on a app for which I've got one starting with 
> that letter.
> 
> I can't get it to find anything starting with S for which I've got at least 6 
> apps sonos and spotify   aren't showing up.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 3:52 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> Whilst on the home screen, turn the rotor to handwriting. draw the first 
> letter , and then each subsequent letter, of the app name. At any time, use a 
> two-finger flick down to cycle through the matching apps. Double-tap to open 
> the selected app.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi David,
>> 
>> So you can use it to open apps on your device?
>> 
>> I didn't know that one.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>> Chittenden
>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 2:02 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> I am slow at handwriting (finger printing), so I mainly use it on the 
>> homescreens to locate and open apps. I occasionally use it in messages.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:01, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, I've 
>>> tried it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I 
>>> was hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of 
>>> decent quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>> Chittenden
>>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>> 
>>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use 
>>> a three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
>>> punctuation.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi List,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
>>>> 
>>>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for 
>>>> picking oup their handwriting
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Simon F
>>>> 
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>

Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[David Chittenden]

It may not be recognising your s.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Mar 2016, at 23:53, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Interesting that it only works on a app for which I've got one starting with 
> that letter.
> 
> I can't get it to find anything starting with S for which I've got at least 6 
> apps sonos and spotify   aren't showing up.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 3:52 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> Whilst on the home screen, turn the rotor to handwriting. draw the first 
> letter , and then each subsequent letter, of the app name. At any time, use a 
> two-finger flick down to cycle through the matching apps. Double-tap to open 
> the selected app.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi David,
>> 
>> So you can use it to open apps on your device?
>> 
>> I didn't know that one.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 2:02 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> I am slow at handwriting (finger printing), so I mainly use it on the 
>> homescreens to locate and open apps. I occasionally use it in messages.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:01, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, I've tried 
>>> it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I was 
>>> hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of 
>>> decent quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>> Chittenden
>>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>> 
>>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use 
>>> a three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
>>> punctuation.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi List,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
>>>> 
>>>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for 
>>>> picking oup their handwriting
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Simon F
>>>> 
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RE: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

Interesting that it only works on a app for which I've got one starting with 
that letter.

I can't get it to find anything starting with S for which I've got at least 6 
apps sonos and spotify   aren't showing up.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 3:52 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

Whilst on the home screen, turn the rotor to handwriting. draw the first letter 
, and then each subsequent letter, of the app name. At any time, use a 
two-finger flick down to cycle through the matching apps. Double-tap to open 
the selected app.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> So you can use it to open apps on your device?
> 
> I didn't know that one.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 2:02 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> I am slow at handwriting (finger printing), so I mainly use it on the 
> homescreens to locate and open apps. I occasionally use it in messages.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:01, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, I've tried 
>> it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I was 
>> hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of 
>> decent quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>> Chittenden
>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use a 
>> three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
>> punctuation.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>> 
>>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
>>> 
>>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for 
>>> picking oup their handwriting
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Simon F
>>> 
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RE: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah I've been looking at a couple  
Bamboo paper and MyScript note are a couple but yeah not overly friendly, why 
these apps can't be accessible I can't figure out.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 3:56 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

I am never sure of anything. My understanding is that they are using a 
third-party handwriting recognition app. I will check with some sighted people. 
iOS now permits installation of third-party keyboards (a fact which locked me 
out from using the onscreen keyboard on my iPhone last year because many of 
them are completely inaccessible).

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:58, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Are you sure?
> 
> I have sighted associates that use handwriting on their iPads without 
> voiceover!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 9:54 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> Handwriting works only with VoiceOver. It is not a standard input method for 
> iOS.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 02:36, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I found that with the stylus I had to press harder than I would if I was 
>> writing with a pen. It wasn’t a natural thing. then again, writing using 
>> your finger isn’t necessarily natural either. 
>> 
>> As you note, David, the 6S and beyond have the pressure sensitive screen for 
>> other uses and that really messed with using a stylus for handwriting. I’ve 
>> never triggered 3D touch using my finger for handwriting but using the 
>> stylus, I did so often. 
>> 
>> Here’s a question. Does handwriting work without VO? I’d assume so and of 
>> course would never use it that way. 
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 9:05 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Increased pressure would not make a difference. The iDevice screen is 
>>> capacitive. The iPhone 6 S is pressure sensitive for different ways of 
>>> activating buttons in apps that support it.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:52, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve tried playing with it using the Notes app and recently tried it with 
>>>> an inexpensive stylus with poor results. I’m thinking it’s more a pressure 
>>>> issue with any stylus. It seems to work much better using just the finger. 
>>>> 
>>>> I use it to bring up apps, to occasionally jot down phone numbers, though 
>>>> this is less used now that I have just Press Record for my Watch. 
>>>> 
>>>> I have a friend who uses it when writing texts and email on her phone and 
>>>> she swears by it with just her finger.
>>>> Jenine Stanley
>>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, I've 
>>>>> tried it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic 
>>>>> I was hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus 
>>>>> of decent quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>>>> Chittenden
>>>>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. 
>>>>> Use a three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the 
>>>>> n

RE: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

L have to give it a try.

I'm hoping the apple releases on Wednesday will release a new iPad mini with 
the ability to use the apple pencil, 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 2:49 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

Oh, using handwriting to open apps is quite cool indeed and my preferred method 
most times.It’s also silent which is nice. I mean, no talking to the phone, no 
moving around the screen, etc.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Mar 18, 2016, at 8:43 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> So you can use it to open apps on your device?
> 
> I didn't know that one.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 2:02 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> I am slow at handwriting (finger printing), so I mainly use it on the 
> homescreens to locate and open apps. I occasionally use it in messages.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:01, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, I've tried 
>> it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I was 
>> hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of 
>> decent quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>> Chittenden
>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use a 
>> three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
>> punctuation.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>> 
>>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
>>> 
>>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for 
>>> picking oup their handwriting
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Simon F
>>> 
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Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[David Chittenden]

Handwriting works only with VoiceOver. It is not a standard input method for 
iOS.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Mar 2016, at 02:36, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I found that with the stylus I had to press harder than I would if I was 
> writing with a pen. It wasn’t a natural thing. then again, writing using your 
> finger isn’t necessarily natural either. 
> 
> As you note, David, the 6S and beyond have the pressure sensitive screen for 
> other uses and that really messed with using a stylus for handwriting. I’ve 
> never triggered 3D touch using my finger for handwriting but using the 
> stylus, I did so often. 
> 
> Here’s a question. Does handwriting work without VO? I’d assume so and of 
> course would never use it that way. 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 9:05 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Increased pressure would not make a difference. The iDevice screen is 
>> capacitive. The iPhone 6 S is pressure sensitive for different ways of 
>> activating buttons in apps that support it.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:52, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve tried playing with it using the Notes app and recently tried it with 
>>> an inexpensive stylus with poor results. I’m thinking it’s more a pressure 
>>> issue with any stylus. It seems to work much better using just the finger. 
>>> 
>>> I use it to bring up apps, to occasionally jot down phone numbers, though 
>>> this is less used now that I have just Press Record for my Watch. 
>>> 
>>> I have a friend who uses it when writing texts and email on her phone and 
>>> she swears by it with just her finger.
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, 
>>>> I've tried it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I 
>>>> was hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of decent 
>>>> quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>>>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use 
>>>> a three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
>>>> punctuation.
>>>> 
>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for picking 
>>>>> oup their handwriting 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Simon F
>>>>> 
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RE: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah I'mm looking to use handwriting on my iPad rather than iPhone but both 
would be good and looking at  the stylus the best seem to be the ones for fine 
art work and sketching 

But the Wacom bamboo devices with carbon fibre tips seem reasonably priced and 
you don't have to push as hard
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 2:36 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

I found that with the stylus I had to press harder than I would if I was 
writing with a pen. It wasn’t a natural thing. then again, writing using your 
finger isn’t necessarily natural either. 

As you note, David, the 6S and beyond have the pressure sensitive screen for 
other uses and that really messed with using a stylus for handwriting. I’ve 
never triggered 3D touch using my finger for handwriting but using the stylus, 
I did so often. 

Here’s a question. Does handwriting work without VO? I’d assume so and of 
course would never use it that way. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Mar 18, 2016, at 9:05 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Increased pressure would not make a difference. The iDevice screen is 
> capacitive. The iPhone 6 S is pressure sensitive for different ways of 
> activating buttons in apps that support it.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:52, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve tried playing with it using the Notes app and recently tried it with an 
>> inexpensive stylus with poor results. I’m thinking it’s more a pressure 
>> issue with any stylus. It seems to work much better using just the finger. 
>> 
>> I use it to bring up apps, to occasionally jot down phone numbers, though 
>> this is less used now that I have just Press Record for my Watch. 
>> 
>> I have a friend who uses it when writing texts and email on her phone and 
>> she swears by it with just her finger.
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, I've 
>>> tried it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I 
>>> was hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of 
>>> decent quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>> Chittenden
>>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>> 
>>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use 
>>> a three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
>>> punctuation.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi List,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
>>>> 
>>>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for 
>>>> picking oup their handwriting
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Simon F
>>>> 
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Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Jenine Stanley]

I’ve tried playing with it using the Notes app and recently tried it with an 
inexpensive stylus with poor results. I’m thinking it’s more a pressure issue 
with any stylus. It seems to work much better using just the finger. 

I use it to bring up apps, to occasionally jot down phone numbers, though this 
is less used now that I have just Press Record for my Watch. 

I have a friend who uses it when writing texts and email on her phone and she 
swears by it with just her finger.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Mar 18, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, 
> I've tried it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I was 
> hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of decent 
> quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use a 
> three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
> punctuation.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi List,
>> 
>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
>> 
>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for picking oup 
>> their handwriting 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> 
>> Simon F
>> 
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Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[David Chittenden]

Increased pressure would not make a difference. The iDevice screen is 
capacitive. The iPhone 6 S is pressure sensitive for different ways of 
activating buttons in apps that support it.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:52, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I’ve tried playing with it using the Notes app and recently tried it with an 
> inexpensive stylus with poor results. I’m thinking it’s more a pressure issue 
> with any stylus. It seems to work much better using just the finger. 
> 
> I use it to bring up apps, to occasionally jot down phone numbers, though 
> this is less used now that I have just Press Record for my Watch. 
> 
> I have a friend who uses it when writing texts and email on her phone and she 
> swears by it with just her finger.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, 
>> I've tried it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I was 
>> hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of decent 
>> quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use a 
>> three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
>> punctuation.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>> 
>>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
>>> 
>>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for picking oup 
>>> their handwriting 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Simon F
>>> 
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Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Jenine Stanley]

I found that with the stylus I had to press harder than I would if I was 
writing with a pen. It wasn’t a natural thing. then again, writing using your 
finger isn’t necessarily natural either. 

As you note, David, the 6S and beyond have the pressure sensitive screen for 
other uses and that really messed with using a stylus for handwriting. I’ve 
never triggered 3D touch using my finger for handwriting but using the stylus, 
I did so often. 

Here’s a question. Does handwriting work without VO? I’d assume so and of 
course would never use it that way. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Mar 18, 2016, at 9:05 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Increased pressure would not make a difference. The iDevice screen is 
> capacitive. The iPhone 6 S is pressure sensitive for different ways of 
> activating buttons in apps that support it.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:52, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve tried playing with it using the Notes app and recently tried it with an 
>> inexpensive stylus with poor results. I’m thinking it’s more a pressure 
>> issue with any stylus. It seems to work much better using just the finger. 
>> 
>> I use it to bring up apps, to occasionally jot down phone numbers, though 
>> this is less used now that I have just Press Record for my Watch. 
>> 
>> I have a friend who uses it when writing texts and email on her phone and 
>> she swears by it with just her finger.
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, 
>>> I've tried it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I 
>>> was hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of decent 
>>> quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>> 
>>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use 
>>> a three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
>>> punctuation.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi List,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
>>>> 
>>>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for picking 
>>>> oup their handwriting 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Simon F
>>>> 
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RE: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi David,

So you can use it to open apps on your device?

I didn't know that one.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 2:02 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

I am slow at handwriting (finger printing), so I mainly use it on the 
homescreens to locate and open apps. I occasionally use it in messages.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:01, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, I've tried 
> it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I was 
> hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of decent 
> quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use a 
> three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
> punctuation.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi List,
>> 
>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
>> 
>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for 
>> picking oup their handwriting
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> 
>> Simon F
>> 
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RE: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

Thanks for that, 
Yeah I'd like to be able to try the stylus first but they don't seem to let you 
do that.

Cheers,

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 12:53 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

I’ve tried playing with it using the Notes app and recently tried it with an 
inexpensive stylus with poor results. I’m thinking it’s more a pressure issue 
with any stylus. It seems to work much better using just the finger. 

I use it to bring up apps, to occasionally jot down phone numbers, though this 
is less used now that I have just Press Record for my Watch. 

I have a friend who uses it when writing texts and email on her phone and she 
swears by it with just her finger.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Mar 18, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, I've tried 
> it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I was 
> hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of decent 
> quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use a 
> three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
> punctuation.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi List,
>> 
>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
>> 
>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for 
>> picking oup their handwriting
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> 
>> Simon F
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Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Jenine Stanley]

Oh, using handwriting to open apps is quite cool indeed and my preferred method 
most times.It’s also silent which is nice. I mean, no talking to the phone, no 
moving around the screen, etc.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Mar 18, 2016, at 8:43 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> So you can use it to open apps on your device?
> 
> I didn't know that one.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 2:02 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> I am slow at handwriting (finger printing), so I mainly use it on the 
> homescreens to locate and open apps. I occasionally use it in messages.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:01, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, I've tried 
>> it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I was 
>> hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of decent 
>> quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use a 
>> three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
>> punctuation.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>> 
>>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
>>> 
>>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for 
>>> picking oup their handwriting
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Simon F
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Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[David Chittenden]

I am slow at handwriting (finger printing), so I mainly use it on the 
homescreens to locate and open apps. I occasionally use it in messages.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:01, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, 
> I've tried it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I was 
> hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of decent 
> quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use a 
> three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
> punctuation.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi List,
>> 
>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
>> 
>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for picking oup 
>> their handwriting 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> 
>> Simon F
>> 
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Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[David Chittenden]

I usually use braille screen input, even for opening apps, unless I am unable 
to use both hands.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Mar 2016, at 14:48, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Oh, using handwriting to open apps is quite cool indeed and my preferred 
> method most times.It’s also silent which is nice. I mean, no talking to the 
> phone, no moving around the screen, etc.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 8:43 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi David,
>> 
>> So you can use it to open apps on your device?
>> 
>> I didn't know that one.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 2:02 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> I am slow at handwriting (finger printing), so I mainly use it on the 
>> homescreens to locate and open apps. I occasionally use it in messages.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:01, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, I've tried 
>>> it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I was 
>>> hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of decent 
>>> quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>> 
>>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use 
>>> a three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
>>> punctuation.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi List,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
>>>> 
>>>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for 
>>>> picking oup their handwriting
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Simon F
>>>> 
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Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[David Chittenden]

Whilst on the home screen, turn the rotor to handwriting. draw the first letter 
, and then each subsequent letter, of the app name. At any time, use a 
two-finger flick down to cycle through the matching apps. Double-tap to open 
the selected app.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> So you can use it to open apps on your device?
> 
> I didn't know that one.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 2:02 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> I am slow at handwriting (finger printing), so I mainly use it on the 
> homescreens to locate and open apps. I occasionally use it in messages.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:01, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, I've tried 
>> it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I was 
>> hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of decent 
>> quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use a 
>> three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
>> punctuation.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>> 
>>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
>>> 
>>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for 
>>> picking oup their handwriting
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Simon F
>>> 
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Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[David Chittenden]

I am never sure of anything. My understanding is that they are using a 
third-party handwriting recognition app. I will check with some sighted people. 
iOS now permits installation of third-party keyboards (a fact which locked me 
out from using the onscreen keyboard on my iPhone last year because many of 
them are completely inaccessible).

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:58, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Are you sure?
> 
> I have sighted associates that use handwriting on their iPads without 
> voiceover!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 9:54 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> Handwriting works only with VoiceOver. It is not a standard input method for 
> iOS.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 02:36, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I found that with the stylus I had to press harder than I would if I was 
>> writing with a pen. It wasn’t a natural thing. then again, writing using 
>> your finger isn’t necessarily natural either. 
>> 
>> As you note, David, the 6S and beyond have the pressure sensitive screen for 
>> other uses and that really messed with using a stylus for handwriting. I’ve 
>> never triggered 3D touch using my finger for handwriting but using the 
>> stylus, I did so often. 
>> 
>> Here’s a question. Does handwriting work without VO? I’d assume so and of 
>> course would never use it that way. 
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 9:05 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Increased pressure would not make a difference. The iDevice screen is 
>>> capacitive. The iPhone 6 S is pressure sensitive for different ways of 
>>> activating buttons in apps that support it.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:52, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve tried playing with it using the Notes app and recently tried it with 
>>>> an inexpensive stylus with poor results. I’m thinking it’s more a pressure 
>>>> issue with any stylus. It seems to work much better using just the finger. 
>>>> 
>>>> I use it to bring up apps, to occasionally jot down phone numbers, though 
>>>> this is less used now that I have just Press Record for my Watch. 
>>>> 
>>>> I have a friend who uses it when writing texts and email on her phone and 
>>>> she swears by it with just her finger.
>>>> Jenine Stanley
>>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, I've 
>>>>> tried it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I 
>>>>> was hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of 
>>>>> decent quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>>>> Chittenden
>>>>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. 
>>>>> Use a three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the 
>>>>> number, or punctuation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Li