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Re: How is everyone finding sierra?

2016-11-26 Thread Jürgen Fleger

Hi Jonathan,
yes, I created a new user but got the same results, as well on my iMac and on 
my MacBook Air. No special settings, just standard settings. I can hardly 
beleive you are not experiencing that. Maybe you are not aware of it because 
you work differently or maybe because you use VO keys or quick nav all the time 
anyway?
All the best
Jürgen


> Am 26.11.2016 um 17:35 schrieb Jonathan Cohn  >:
> 
> I have never experienced these issues. Perhaps do you have speak text under 
> mouse enabled and also mouse follows VO cursor? I could see some possibility 
> of how those settings would cause the dialog boxes to speak everything when 
> moving to the last item on screen. It might be worthwhile creating a 
> temporary user to see if you get this overspeaking of dialogs and under 
> speaking of column mode in finder.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 25, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Jürgen Fleger > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> the most annoying in my opinion is the sluggishnes of VO. For example: If I 
>> press CMD + w to close a document in Textedit without saving it I always 
>> press VO + FN + right arrow to jump quickly to end and then twice VO + left 
>> arrow to find „don’t save“. I press these key combinations quickly but VO 
>> reads all buttons it passed one after the other and reads them out loud 
>> before it actually reads the button I’m sitting on for ages. 
>> Another annoying thing is VO doesn’t always give voice feedback if I 
>> navigate through files and folders in Finder, if column view is set and I 
>> just use arrow key up or down to move around. I’m forced to use VO + arrow 
>> keys to move around if I want to hear all the folder and file names VO 
>> passes. Not a real big thing but like that it’s not really nice to use first 
>> letter navigation.
>> I like Sierra but from OS to OS VO seems to me to become less responsive and 
>> more sluggish in reading content. Hopefully Apple is going to recognize this 
>> and then fix it. 
>> All the best
>> Jürgen
>> 
>>> Am 25.11.2016 um 17:33 schrieb E.T. >> >:
>>> 
>>>  What does not need work? (smiles) I have a mid 2012 MBP. VO does not crash 
>>> in Sierra, its just a bit too verbose or not enough but overall, better 
>>> than El Capitan.
>>> 
>>>  Did you do a clean install?
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On 11/25/2016 8:23 AM, Daniel C wrote:
 Siera, In my opinion, can still use work.
 While it runs fine on my MacBook Pro late 2011, I noticed that VO does 
 tend to crash on the login screen, and sometimes it  reloads it's self, 
 and sometimes it does not.
 
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Re: How is everyone finding sierra?

2016-11-26 Thread Jonathan Cohn

I have never experienced these issues. Perhaps do you have speak text under 
mouse enabled and also mouse follows VO cursor? I could see some possibility of 
how those settings would cause the dialog boxes to speak everything when moving 
to the last item on screen. It might be worthwhile creating a temporary user to 
see if you get this overspeaking of dialogs and under speaking of column mode 
in finder.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn




> On Nov 25, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> the most annoying in my opinion is the sluggishnes of VO. For example: If I 
> press CMD + w to close a document in Textedit without saving it I always 
> press VO + FN + right arrow to jump quickly to end and then twice VO + left 
> arrow to find „don’t save“. I press these key combinations quickly but VO 
> reads all buttons it passed one after the other and reads them out loud 
> before it actually reads the button I’m sitting on for ages. 
> Another annoying thing is VO doesn’t always give voice feedback if I navigate 
> through files and folders in Finder, if column view is set and I just use 
> arrow key up or down to move around. I’m forced to use VO + arrow keys to 
> move around if I want to hear all the folder and file names VO passes. Not a 
> real big thing but like that it’s not really nice to use first letter 
> navigation.
> I like Sierra but from OS to OS VO seems to me to become less responsive and 
> more sluggish in reading content. Hopefully Apple is going to recognize this 
> and then fix it. 
> All the best
> Jürgen
> 
>> Am 25.11.2016 um 17:33 schrieb E.T. :
>> 
>>  What does not need work? (smiles) I have a mid 2012 MBP. VO does not crash 
>> in Sierra, its just a bit too verbose or not enough but overall, better than 
>> El Capitan.
>> 
>>  Did you do a clean install?
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 11/25/2016 8:23 AM, Daniel C wrote:
>>> Siera, In my opinion, can still use work.
>>> While it runs fine on my MacBook Pro late 2011, I noticed that VO does tend 
>>> to crash on the login screen, and sometimes it  reloads it's self, and 
>>> sometimes it does not.
>>> 
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Re: How is everyone finding sierra?

2016-11-25 Thread Terje Strømberg

 It may be different apps that are causing different Voice Over difficulties. 
Running in background services etc.

Take care


> 26. nov. 2016 kl. 07.09 skrev Scott Granados :
> 
> I haven’t gotten the voice over lag myself.  I find it very interesting in 
> this thread how different all of our voice over experiences are.  Some are 
> much more stable than others and it seems the experience is different from 
> the same machine classes.  I do notice the clean installs do the best but as 
> mentioned some have tried this and still have issues.  I wonder what the 
> cause is of the inconsistency?
> 
>> On Nov 26, 2016, at 1:06 AM, Maria Chapman  wrote:
>> 
>> It doesn’t happen all the time, but sometimes.
>> 
>> Maria
>> 
>>> On 26 Nov 2016, at 4:53 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did not see this at all in El Capitan.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 11/25/2016 9:47 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
 HI.
 
 I sometimes have the issue you described with stopping interaction, but 
 not with VO repeating what’s focused 3 times.
 
 Thanks
 Maria
 
> On 26 Nov 2016, at 3:07 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> One that comes to mind is VO, after closing an app such as Finder, it 
> goes to the desktop and whatever item is focused, VO will repeat it 3 
> times.
> 
> Another one is when I stop interacting, VO does not always say anything 
> as if I did not stop interacting.
> 
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> Without H2O there is no life!
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> 
> On 11/24/2016 11:09 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
>> HI.
>> 
>> what are the minor annoyances?
>> 
>> thanks
>> Maria
>> 
>>> On 25 Nov 2016, at 1:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Maria,
>>> Generally I wait until at least the .2 update but this time I did not 
>>> even wait for the .1 update and I have no regrets at all.
>>> 
>>> I put in an SSD this week and its even better. But there are some minor 
>>> annoyances which is standard in my opinion. I would imagine  the .2 
>>> update will be released soon so you could wait for that and do one 
>>> upgrade.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>>> 
>>> On 11/24/2016 5:47 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
 HI.
 
 subject line says it all.  Any problems? Advantages to updating?
 
 Maria
 
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Re: How is everyone finding sierra?

2016-11-25 Thread Scott Granados

I haven’t gotten the voice over lag myself.  I find it very interesting in this 
thread how different all of our voice over experiences are.  Some are much more 
stable than others and it seems the experience is different from the same 
machine classes.  I do notice the clean installs do the best but as mentioned 
some have tried this and still have issues.  I wonder what the cause is of the 
inconsistency?

> On Nov 26, 2016, at 1:06 AM, Maria Chapman  wrote:
> 
> It doesn’t happen all the time, but sometimes.
> 
> Maria
> 
>> On 26 Nov 2016, at 4:53 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  I did not see this at all in El Capitan.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 11/25/2016 9:47 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
>>> HI.
>>> 
>>> I sometimes have the issue you described with stopping interaction, but not 
>>> with VO repeating what’s focused 3 times.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Maria
>>> 
 On 26 Nov 2016, at 3:07 AM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 One that comes to mind is VO, after closing an app such as Finder, it goes 
 to the desktop and whatever item is focused, VO will repeat it 3 times.
 
 Another one is when I stop interacting, VO does not always say anything as 
 if I did not stop interacting.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 11/24/2016 11:09 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
> HI.
> 
> what are the minor annoyances?
> 
> thanks
> Maria
> 
>> On 25 Nov 2016, at 1:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Maria,
>> Generally I wait until at least the .2 update but this time I did not 
>> even wait for the .1 update and I have no regrets at all.
>> 
>> I put in an SSD this week and its even better. But there are some minor 
>> annoyances which is standard in my opinion. I would imagine  the .2 
>> update will be released soon so you could wait for that and do one 
>> upgrade.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 11/24/2016 5:47 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
>>> HI.
>>> 
>>> subject line says it all.  Any problems? Advantages to updating?
>>> 
>>> Maria
>>> 
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Re: How is everyone finding sierra?

2016-11-25 Thread Maria Chapman

It doesn’t happen all the time, but sometimes.

Maria

> On 26 Nov 2016, at 4:53 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   I did not see this at all in El Capitan.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/25/2016 9:47 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
>> HI.
>> 
>> I sometimes have the issue you described with stopping interaction, but not 
>> with VO repeating what’s focused 3 times.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Maria
>> 
>>> On 26 Nov 2016, at 3:07 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  One that comes to mind is VO, after closing an app such as Finder, it goes 
>>> to the desktop and whatever item is focused, VO will repeat it 3 times.
>>> 
>>>  Another one is when I stop interacting, VO does not always say anything as 
>>> if I did not stop interacting.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 11/24/2016 11:09 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
 HI.
 
 what are the minor annoyances?
 
 thanks
 Maria
 
> On 25 Nov 2016, at 1:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Maria,
> Generally I wait until at least the .2 update but this time I did not 
> even wait for the .1 update and I have no regrets at all.
> 
> I put in an SSD this week and its even better. But there are some minor 
> annoyances which is standard in my opinion. I would imagine  the .2 
> update will be released soon so you could wait for that and do one 
> upgrade.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/24/2016 5:47 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
>> HI.
>> 
>> subject line says it all.  Any problems? Advantages to updating?
>> 
>> Maria
>> 
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Re: How is everyone finding sierra?

2016-11-25 Thread E.T.


   I did not see this at all in El Capitan.

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ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/25/2016 9:47 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:

HI.

I sometimes have the issue you described with stopping interaction, but not 
with VO repeating what’s focused 3 times.

Thanks
Maria


On 26 Nov 2016, at 3:07 AM, E.T.  wrote:

  One that comes to mind is VO, after closing an app such as Finder, it goes to 
the desktop and whatever item is focused, VO will repeat it 3 times.

  Another one is when I stop interacting, VO does not always say anything as if 
I did not stop interacting.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/24/2016 11:09 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:

HI.

what are the minor annoyances?

thanks
Maria


On 25 Nov 2016, at 1:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Maria,
 Generally I wait until at least the .2 update but this time I did not even 
wait for the .1 update and I have no regrets at all.

 I put in an SSD this week and its even better. But there are some minor 
annoyances which is standard in my opinion. I would imagine  the .2 update will 
be released soon so you could wait for that and do one upgrade.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/24/2016 5:47 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:

HI.

subject line says it all.  Any problems? Advantages to updating?

Maria



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Re: How is everyone finding sierra?

2016-11-25 Thread Maria Chapman

HI.

I sometimes have the issue you described with stopping interaction, but not 
with VO repeating what’s focused 3 times.

Thanks
Maria

> On 26 Nov 2016, at 3:07 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   One that comes to mind is VO, after closing an app such as Finder, it goes 
> to the desktop and whatever item is focused, VO will repeat it 3 times.
> 
>   Another one is when I stop interacting, VO does not always say anything as 
> if I did not stop interacting.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
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> 
> On 11/24/2016 11:09 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
>> HI.
>> 
>> what are the minor annoyances?
>> 
>> thanks
>> Maria
>> 
>>> On 25 Nov 2016, at 1:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Maria,
>>>  Generally I wait until at least the .2 update but this time I did not even 
>>> wait for the .1 update and I have no regrets at all.
>>> 
>>>  I put in an SSD this week and its even better. But there are some minor 
>>> annoyances which is standard in my opinion. I would imagine  the .2 update 
>>> will be released soon so you could wait for that and do one upgrade.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 11/24/2016 5:47 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
 HI.
 
 subject line says it all.  Any problems? Advantages to updating?
 
 Maria
 
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Re: How is everyone finding sierra?

2016-11-25 Thread Maria Chapman

HI.

thanks for the feedback.  Anyone else finding VO sluggish? Does the amount of 
ram make a difference?

thanks
Maria

> On 26 Nov 2016, at 6:57 AM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> the most annoying in my opinion is the sluggishnes of VO. For example: If I 
> press CMD + w to close a document in Textedit without saving it I always 
> press VO + FN + right arrow to jump quickly to end and then twice VO + left 
> arrow to find „don’t save“. I press these key combinations quickly but VO 
> reads all buttons it passed one after the other and reads them out loud 
> before it actually reads the button I’m sitting on for ages. 
> Another annoying thing is VO doesn’t always give voice feedback if I navigate 
> through files and folders in Finder, if column view is set and I just use 
> arrow key up or down to move around. I’m forced to use VO + arrow keys to 
> move around if I want to hear all the folder and file names VO passes. Not a 
> real big thing but like that it’s not really nice to use first letter 
> navigation.
> I like Sierra but from OS to OS VO seems to me to become less responsive and 
> more sluggish in reading content. Hopefully Apple is going to recognize this 
> and then fix it. 
> All the best
> Jürgen
> 
>> Am 25.11.2016 um 17:33 schrieb E.T. :
>> 
>>  What does not need work? (smiles) I have a mid 2012 MBP. VO does not crash 
>> in Sierra, its just a bit too verbose or not enough but overall, better than 
>> El Capitan.
>> 
>>  Did you do a clean install?
>> 
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>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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>> On 11/25/2016 8:23 AM, Daniel C wrote:
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>>> While it runs fine on my MacBook Pro late 2011, I noticed that VO does tend 
>>> to crash on the login screen, and sometimes it  reloads it's self, and 
>>> sometimes it does not.
>>> 
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Re: How is everyone finding sierra?

2016-11-25 Thread Daniel C

Yes, a clean install of Sierra was done.

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Re: How is everyone finding sierra?

2016-11-25 Thread Jürgen Fleger

Hi,
the most annoying in my opinion is the sluggishnes of VO. For example: If I 
press CMD + w to close a document in Textedit without saving it I always press 
VO + FN + right arrow to jump quickly to end and then twice VO + left arrow to 
find „don’t save“. I press these key combinations quickly but VO reads all 
buttons it passed one after the other and reads them out loud before it 
actually reads the button I’m sitting on for ages. 
Another annoying thing is VO doesn’t always give voice feedback if I navigate 
through files and folders in Finder, if column view is set and I just use arrow 
key up or down to move around. I’m forced to use VO + arrow keys to move around 
if I want to hear all the folder and file names VO passes. Not a real big thing 
but like that it’s not really nice to use first letter navigation.
I like Sierra but from OS to OS VO seems to me to become less responsive and 
more sluggish in reading content. Hopefully Apple is going to recognize this 
and then fix it. 
All the best
Jürgen

> Am 25.11.2016 um 17:33 schrieb E.T. :
> 
>   What does not need work? (smiles) I have a mid 2012 MBP. VO does not crash 
> in Sierra, its just a bit too verbose or not enough but overall, better than 
> El Capitan.
> 
>   Did you do a clean install?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/25/2016 8:23 AM, Daniel C wrote:
>> Siera, In my opinion, can still use work.
>> While it runs fine on my MacBook Pro late 2011, I noticed that VO does tend 
>> to crash on the login screen, and sometimes it  reloads it's self, and 
>> sometimes it does not.
>> 
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Re: How is everyone finding sierra?

2016-11-25 Thread christopher hallsworth

Not here, same mac as you, try doing a clean install.
> On 25 Nov 2016, at 16:23, Daniel C  wrote:
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> While it runs fine on my MacBook Pro late 2011, I noticed that VO does tend 
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RE: How is everyone finding sierra?

2016-11-25 Thread ilovecountrymusic483

Hi,

No I hve had  this problem since its release and have reported it and it strill 
is not fixed,.  It is very annoingt.

Matthew



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Did Sierra solve the focus problem with email?
Nancy

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> On Nov 25, 2016, at 2:09 AM, Maria Chapman <bubbygirl1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> HI.
> 
> what are the minor annoyances?
> 
> thanks
> Maria
> 
>> On 25 Nov 2016, at 1:16 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Maria,
>>  Generally I wait until at least the .2 update but this time I did not even 
>> wait for the .1 update and I have no regrets at all.
>> 
>>  I put in an SSD this week and its even better. But there are some minor 
>> annoyances which is standard in my opinion. I would imagine  the .2 update 
>> will be released soon so you could wait for that and do one upgrade.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On 11/24/2016 5:47 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
>>> HI.
>>> 
>>> subject line says it all.  Any problems? Advantages to updating?
>>> 
>>> Maria
>>> 
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Re: How is everyone finding sierra?

2016-11-25 Thread E.T.

   What does not need work? (smiles) I have a mid 2012 MBP. VO does not 
crash in Sierra, its just a bit too verbose or not enough but overall, 
better than El Capitan.


   Did you do a clean install?

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On 11/25/2016 8:23 AM, Daniel C wrote:

Siera, In my opinion, can still use work.
While it runs fine on my MacBook Pro late 2011, I noticed that VO does tend to 
crash on the login screen, and sometimes it  reloads it's self, and sometimes 
it does not.



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Re: How is everyone finding sierra?

2016-11-25 Thread Scott Granados

Thatmay be do to really old hardware.  Don’t have these issues on a new model.

I did have return from sleep mode issues in the beta but that’s the beta so a 
different animal but somewhat related to your log in issues so it might 
indicate in your case a problem supporting the older display drivers.

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Re: How is everyone finding sierra?

2016-11-25 Thread Daniel C

Siera, In my opinion, can still use work.
While it runs fine on my MacBook Pro late 2011, I noticed that VO does tend to 
crash on the login screen, and sometimes it  reloads it's self, and sometimes 
it does not.

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Re: How is everyone finding sierra?

2016-11-25 Thread E.T.

   One that comes to mind is VO, after closing an app such as Finder, 
it goes to the desktop and whatever item is focused, VO will repeat it 3 
times.


   Another one is when I stop interacting, VO does not always say 
anything as if I did not stop interacting.


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On 11/24/2016 11:09 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:

HI.

what are the minor annoyances?

thanks
Maria


On 25 Nov 2016, at 1:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Maria,
  Generally I wait until at least the .2 update but this time I did not even 
wait for the .1 update and I have no regrets at all.

  I put in an SSD this week and its even better. But there are some minor 
annoyances which is standard in my opinion. I would imagine  the .2 update will 
be released soon so you could wait for that and do one upgrade.

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On 11/24/2016 5:47 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:

HI.

subject line says it all.  Any problems? Advantages to updating?

Maria



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Re: How is everyone finding sierra?

2016-11-25 Thread Nancy Badger

Did Sierra solve the focus problem with email?
Nancy

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UT Chattanooga
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

> On Nov 25, 2016, at 2:09 AM, Maria Chapman  wrote:
> 
> HI.
> 
> what are the minor annoyances?
> 
> thanks
> Maria
> 
>> On 25 Nov 2016, at 1:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Maria,
>>  Generally I wait until at least the .2 update but this time I did not even 
>> wait for the .1 update and I have no regrets at all.
>> 
>>  I put in an SSD this week and its even better. But there are some minor 
>> annoyances which is standard in my opinion. I would imagine  the .2 update 
>> will be released soon so you could wait for that and do one upgrade.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>> 
>>> On 11/24/2016 5:47 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
>>> HI.
>>> 
>>> subject line says it all.  Any problems? Advantages to updating?
>>> 
>>> Maria
>>> 
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Re: How is everyone finding sierra?

2016-11-24 Thread Maria Chapman

HI.

what are the minor annoyances?

thanks
Maria

> On 25 Nov 2016, at 1:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Maria,
>   Generally I wait until at least the .2 update but this time I did not even 
> wait for the .1 update and I have no regrets at all.
> 
>   I put in an SSD this week and its even better. But there are some minor 
> annoyances which is standard in my opinion. I would imagine  the .2 update 
> will be released soon so you could wait for that and do one upgrade.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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> On 11/24/2016 5:47 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
>> HI.
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>> subject line says it all.  Any problems? Advantages to updating?
>> 
>> Maria
>> 
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Re: How is everyone finding sierra?

2016-11-24 Thread E.T.


Maria,
   Generally I wait until at least the .2 update but this time I did 
not even wait for the .1 update and I have no regrets at all.


   I put in an SSD this week and its even better. But there are some 
minor annoyances which is standard in my opinion. I would imagine  the 
.2 update will be released soon so you could wait for that and do one 
upgrade.


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On 11/24/2016 5:47 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:

HI.

subject line says it all.  Any problems? Advantages to updating?

Maria



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Re: How is everyone finding sierra?

2016-11-24 Thread Scott Granados

HI, loving serial for the most part so far.  Works very well, the unlock with 
your watch feature is great, stability seems good and the performance is very 
good on modern hardware.  I’m running a Mid 2015 15 inch MacBook with the 2.8 
quad core I7 to give you an idea.  Installation was very painless.
There are some issues with the beta 10.2 code but if you stick to the 
production releases you should be very happy.

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