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Martion contacts, Tim, hells teeth, I thought the yanks were crazy, but you Canadians are almost as bad! The only thing you need to be up there is an orange president prime minister, -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Monday, 8 January 2018 5:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to keep your phone (and fingers) from freezing this winter, iMore Hi, I feel for you Mark, as I understand that when you're used to much warmer temperatures, 25 F may seem cold. I'll tell you though, that after living through three weeks of temperatures ranging from about -23 F to near -40 F, and even down past -50 F with the windchill, I'd probably be out there in a T-shirt in Portland. Yes, we were colder than the surface of Mars, but not everywhere on Mars, of course. Simon, my Martian contacts confirmed this with me :). Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jan 6, 2018, at 12:01, M. Taylor wrote: BIG, BIG SMILE Simon, your post really made me laugh out loud. Thank you. I just spent three days up in Portland Oregon where the temperatures hovered around 25 degrees, Fahrenheit, and I can tell you that to me, a resident of California, it felt like the surface of mars!!! I haven't been that cold in quite a long, long time. However, I'm happy to report that all of my devices functioned as expected. Regardless, I'm glad to be back home. (smile) Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 1:42 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: How to keep your phone (and fingers) from freezing this winter, iMore Ok, Mark as interrsting and usefull as this article is, I have one major question about it. How the hell do they know that the temperature of the city or area of the country they live in is colder than the surface temperature of Mars? Last time I checked earthlings had not yet been to mars, Ok people have sent robots and other tools, But still those devices can not confirm that the temperatures on Mars are warmer or colder than that here on earth, And I can't say I've ever met a martion that has come to earth and said they'd come for a warmer break from the cold as temps on the red planet, When man kind gets to mars may be then I'll believe the statement. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2018 7:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: How to keep your phone (and fingers) from freezing this winter, iMore How to keep your phone (and fingers) from freezing this winter By Luke Filipowicz, 5 Jan 2018 Although Christmas has come and gone and we are securely into 2018, many of us still have to deal with a few months of cold, snowy, and windy weather. Using your phone outdoors can be tricky - and potentially dangerous - if you live in a city that can get colder than the surface of Mars (like I do). Personal experience is the best experience Yes, I live in a city where it occasionally gets colder than the surface of Mars. Winnipeg - "Winterpeg" for the pun enthusiasts - has some pretty harsh weather during the winter months, and although we locals like to think it make us extra tough, it can really suck to use your phone outdoors during the cold months. Last year, around this time, I was doing some social media work for a local minor hockey team and they were having an outdoor game as part of a fundraiser. I can't remember exactly how cold it was, but I can tell you I was wearing three sweaters, two jackets, three different types of pants, and about 3 pairs of socks; I was still cold. As the game was starting, I started snapping pictures with my DSLR, sending them to my iPhone, and posting on the teams' social media accounts. Before the first period was even halfway over - less than 10 mins for those less sports-inclined folks - my fully charged iPhone 5S was at 10% battery life and I had gotten some mild frostbite on my fingers from using my phone. It sucked. The sub-zero temperatures aren't only bad news for your hands and fingers, but cold is no friend to your device's battery either. In fact, you can do some real damage to your iPhone's battery if you try charging it while it's cold. Here's a short and sweet guide to keeping your iPhone and hands warm this winter. Protect your battery from the cold <img src="https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge_wm_brw/public /field/image/2017/11/outdoor-scene-winter-iphone-8-plus.JPG?itok=JWMWhri8" width="1600" height="1200" alt="" class="image-xlarge_wm_brw alignc
RE: How to keep your phone (and fingers) from freezing this winter, iMore
Hi mark, glad I could put a smile on your face and a laugh in your day, There's hope for me on stage yet. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Sunday, 7 January 2018 8:02 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: How to keep your phone (and fingers) from freezing this winter, iMore BIG, BIG SMILE Simon, your post really made me laugh out loud. Thank you. I just spent three days up in Portland Oregon where the temperatures hovered around 25 degrees, Fahrenheit, and I can tell you that to me, a resident of California, it felt like the surface of mars!!! I haven't been that cold in quite a long, long time. However, I'm happy to report that all of my devices functioned as expected. Regardless, I'm glad to be back home. (smile) Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 1:42 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: How to keep your phone (and fingers) from freezing this winter, iMore Ok, Mark as interrsting and usefull as this article is, I have one major question about it. How the hell do they know that the temperature of the city or area of the country they live in is colder than the surface temperature of Mars? Last time I checked earthlings had not yet been to mars, Ok people have sent robots and other tools, But still those devices can not confirm that the temperatures on Mars are warmer or colder than that here on earth, And I can't say I've ever met a martion that has come to earth and said they'd come for a warmer break from the cold as temps on the red planet, When man kind gets to mars may be then I'll believe the statement. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2018 7:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: How to keep your phone (and fingers) from freezing this winter, iMore How to keep your phone (and fingers) from freezing this winter By Luke Filipowicz, 5 Jan 2018 Although Christmas has come and gone and we are securely into 2018, many of us still have to deal with a few months of cold, snowy, and windy weather. Using your phone outdoors can be tricky - and potentially dangerous - if you live in a city that can get colder than the surface of Mars (like I do). Personal experience is the best experience Yes, I live in a city where it occasionally gets colder than the surface of Mars. Winnipeg - "Winterpeg" for the pun enthusiasts - has some pretty harsh weather during the winter months, and although we locals like to think it make us extra tough, it can really suck to use your phone outdoors during the cold months. Last year, around this time, I was doing some social media work for a local minor hockey team and they were having an outdoor game as part of a fundraiser. I can't remember exactly how cold it was, but I can tell you I was wearing three sweaters, two jackets, three different types of pants, and about 3 pairs of socks; I was still cold. As the game was starting, I started snapping pictures with my DSLR, sending them to my iPhone, and posting on the teams' social media accounts. Before the first period was even halfway over - less than 10 mins for those less sports-inclined folks - my fully charged iPhone 5S was at 10% battery life and I had gotten some mild frostbite on my fingers from using my phone. It sucked. The sub-zero temperatures aren't only bad news for your hands and fingers, but cold is no friend to your device's battery either. In fact, you can do some real damage to your iPhone's battery if you try charging it while it's cold. Here's a short and sweet guide to keeping your iPhone and hands warm this winter. Protect your battery from the cold <img src="https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge_wm_brw/public /field/image/2017/11/outdoor-scene-winter-iphone-8-plus.JPG?itok=JWMWhri8" width="1600" height="1200" alt="" class="image-xlarge_wm_brw aligncenter image-xlarge"> Lithium-ion batteries are commonplace in many devices, and they're also the same type of battery that your iPhone uses. Without going down a technical rabbit hole, these batteries rely on a chemical reaction to produce power and charge; when they get cold, that chemical reaction slows down, causing your battery to perform poorly. The easiest way to prevent the cold weather from negatively impacting your phone's performance is to keep your iPhone as warm as possible. If you plan to venture out into the cold this winter with your phone, do your best to keep it warm - especially if you're going out
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Hi, I feel for you Mark, as I understand that when you're used to much warmer temperatures, 25 F may seem cold. I'll tell you though, that after living through three weeks of temperatures ranging from about -23 F to near -40 F, and even down past -50 F with the windchill, I'd probably be out there in a T-shirt in Portland. Yes, we were colder than the surface of Mars, but not everywhere on Mars, of course. Simon, my Martian contacts confirmed this with me :). Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jan 6, 2018, at 12:01, M. Taylor wrote: BIG, BIG SMILE Simon, your post really made me laugh out loud. Thank you. I just spent three days up in Portland Oregon where the temperatures hovered around 25 degrees, Fahrenheit, and I can tell you that to me, a resident of California, it felt like the surface of mars!!! I haven't been that cold in quite a long, long time. However, I'm happy to report that all of my devices functioned as expected. Regardless, I'm glad to be back home. (smile) Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 1:42 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: How to keep your phone (and fingers) from freezing this winter, iMore Ok, Mark as interrsting and usefull as this article is, I have one major question about it. How the hell do they know that the temperature of the city or area of the country they live in is colder than the surface temperature of Mars? Last time I checked earthlings had not yet been to mars, Ok people have sent robots and other tools, But still those devices can not confirm that the temperatures on Mars are warmer or colder than that here on earth, And I can't say I've ever met a martion that has come to earth and said they'd come for a warmer break from the cold as temps on the red planet, When man kind gets to mars may be then I'll believe the statement. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2018 7:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: How to keep your phone (and fingers) from freezing this winter, iMore How to keep your phone (and fingers) from freezing this winter By Luke Filipowicz, 5 Jan 2018 Although Christmas has come and gone and we are securely into 2018, many of us still have to deal with a few months of cold, snowy, and windy weather. Using your phone outdoors can be tricky - and potentially dangerous - if you live in a city that can get colder than the surface of Mars (like I do). Personal experience is the best experience Yes, I live in a city where it occasionally gets colder than the surface of Mars. Winnipeg - "Winterpeg" for the pun enthusiasts - has some pretty harsh weather during the winter months, and although we locals like to think it make us extra tough, it can really suck to use your phone outdoors during the cold months. Last year, around this time, I was doing some social media work for a local minor hockey team and they were having an outdoor game as part of a fundraiser. I can't remember exactly how cold it was, but I can tell you I was wearing three sweaters, two jackets, three different types of pants, and about 3 pairs of socks; I was still cold. As the game was starting, I started snapping pictures with my DSLR, sending them to my iPhone, and posting on the teams' social media accounts. Before the first period was even halfway over - less than 10 mins for those less sports-inclined folks - my fully charged iPhone 5S was at 10% battery life and I had gotten some mild frostbite on my fingers from using my phone. It sucked. The sub-zero temperatures aren't only bad news for your hands and fingers, but cold is no friend to your device's battery either. In fact, you can do some real damage to your iPhone's battery if you try charging it while it's cold. Here's a short and sweet guide to keeping your iPhone and hands warm this winter. Protect your battery from the cold <img src="https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge_wm_brw/public /field/image/2017/11/outdoor-scene-winter-iphone-8-plus.JPG?itok=JWMWhri8" width="1600" height="1200" alt="" class="image-xlarge_wm_brw aligncenter image-xlarge"> Lithium-ion batteries are commonplace in many devices, and they're also the same type of battery that your iPhone uses. Without going down a technical rabbit hole, these batteries rely on a chemical reaction to produce power and charge; when they get cold, that chemical reaction slows down, causing your battery to perform poorly. The easiest way to prevent the cold weather from negatively impacting your phone's performance is t
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BIG, BIG SMILE Simon, your post really made me laugh out loud. Thank you. I just spent three days up in Portland Oregon where the temperatures hovered around 25 degrees, Fahrenheit, and I can tell you that to me, a resident of California, it felt like the surface of mars!!! I haven't been that cold in quite a long, long time. However, I'm happy to report that all of my devices functioned as expected. Regardless, I'm glad to be back home. (smile) Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 1:42 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: How to keep your phone (and fingers) from freezing this winter, iMore Ok, Mark as interrsting and usefull as this article is, I have one major question about it. How the hell do they know that the temperature of the city or area of the country they live in is colder than the surface temperature of Mars? Last time I checked earthlings had not yet been to mars, Ok people have sent robots and other tools, But still those devices can not confirm that the temperatures on Mars are warmer or colder than that here on earth, And I can't say I've ever met a martion that has come to earth and said they'd come for a warmer break from the cold as temps on the red planet, When man kind gets to mars may be then I'll believe the statement. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2018 7:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: How to keep your phone (and fingers) from freezing this winter, iMore How to keep your phone (and fingers) from freezing this winter By Luke Filipowicz, 5 Jan 2018 Although Christmas has come and gone and we are securely into 2018, many of us still have to deal with a few months of cold, snowy, and windy weather. Using your phone outdoors can be tricky - and potentially dangerous - if you live in a city that can get colder than the surface of Mars (like I do). Personal experience is the best experience Yes, I live in a city where it occasionally gets colder than the surface of Mars. Winnipeg - "Winterpeg" for the pun enthusiasts - has some pretty harsh weather during the winter months, and although we locals like to think it make us extra tough, it can really suck to use your phone outdoors during the cold months. Last year, around this time, I was doing some social media work for a local minor hockey team and they were having an outdoor game as part of a fundraiser. I can't remember exactly how cold it was, but I can tell you I was wearing three sweaters, two jackets, three different types of pants, and about 3 pairs of socks; I was still cold. As the game was starting, I started snapping pictures with my DSLR, sending them to my iPhone, and posting on the teams' social media accounts. Before the first period was even halfway over - less than 10 mins for those less sports-inclined folks - my fully charged iPhone 5S was at 10% battery life and I had gotten some mild frostbite on my fingers from using my phone. It sucked. The sub-zero temperatures aren't only bad news for your hands and fingers, but cold is no friend to your device's battery either. In fact, you can do some real damage to your iPhone's battery if you try charging it while it's cold. Here's a short and sweet guide to keeping your iPhone and hands warm this winter. Protect your battery from the cold <img src="https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge_wm_brw/public /field/image/2017/11/outdoor-scene-winter-iphone-8-plus.JPG?itok=JWMWhri8" width="1600" height="1200" alt="" class="image-xlarge_wm_brw aligncenter image-xlarge"> Lithium-ion batteries are commonplace in many devices, and they're also the same type of battery that your iPhone uses. Without going down a technical rabbit hole, these batteries rely on a chemical reaction to produce power and charge; when they get cold, that chemical reaction slows down, causing your battery to perform poorly. The easiest way to prevent the cold weather from negatively impacting your phone's performance is to keep your iPhone as warm as possible. If you plan to venture out into the cold this winter with your phone, do your best to keep it warm - especially if you're going out for a significant length of time. Try putting your phone into an inside coat pocket or under a layer or two to keep it nice and toasty when your life takes you into the winter wind! Apple has a few handy tips for maximizing your battery's performance, and recently, the company explained why older iPhones can experience a slow down in performance due to cold conditions. Never charge a col
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Hi Simon, As I am having trouble sleeping due to the cold, I thought I would research your question. The short answer is that the NASA martian rover Curiosity landed on the surface in 2012 I believe? providing a great deal of information regarding the weather on Mars. According to space.com the average is about minus 55 c. I can imagine Winnipeg Manitoba, where this author is writing from indeed gets that cold. there is information on the NASA site too, cannot be sure I am typing well, freezing hands. www.mars.nassa.gov Hope that helps some, Kare On Sat, 6 Jan 2018, Simon Fogarty wrote: Ok, Mark as interrsting and usefull as this article is, I have one major question about it. How the hell do they know that the temperature of the city or area of the country they live in is colder than the surface temperature of Mars? Last time I checked earthlings had not yet been to mars, Ok people have sent robots and other tools, But still those devices can not confirm that the temperatures on Mars are warmer or colder than that here on earth, And I can't say I've ever met a martion that has come to earth and said they'd come for a warmer break from the cold as temps on the red planet, When man kind gets to mars may be then I'll believe the statement. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2018 7:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: How to keep your phone (and fingers) from freezing this winter, iMore How to keep your phone (and fingers) from freezing this winter By Luke Filipowicz, 5 Jan 2018 Although Christmas has come and gone and we are securely into 2018, many of us still have to deal with a few months of cold, snowy, and windy weather. Using your phone outdoors can be tricky - and potentially dangerous - if you live in a city that can get colder than the surface of Mars (like I do). Personal experience is the best experience Yes, I live in a city where it occasionally gets colder than the surface of Mars. Winnipeg - "Winterpeg" for the pun enthusiasts - has some pretty harsh weather during the winter months, and although we locals like to think it make us extra tough, it can really suck to use your phone outdoors during the cold months. Last year, around this time, I was doing some social media work for a local minor hockey team and they were having an outdoor game as part of a fundraiser. I can't remember exactly how cold it was, but I can tell you I was wearing three sweaters, two jackets, three different types of pants, and about 3 pairs of socks; I was still cold. As the game was starting, I started snapping pictures with my DSLR, sending them to my iPhone, and posting on the teams' social media accounts. Before the first period was even halfway over - less than 10 mins for those less sports-inclined folks - my fully charged iPhone 5S was at 10% battery life and I had gotten some mild frostbite on my fingers from using my phone. It sucked. The sub-zero temperatures aren't only bad news for your hands and fingers, but cold is no friend to your device's battery either. In fact, you can do some real damage to your iPhone's battery if you try charging it while it's cold. Here's a short and sweet guide to keeping your iPhone and hands warm this winter. Protect your battery from the cold <img src="https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge_wm_brw/public /field/image/2017/11/outdoor-scene-winter-iphone-8-plus.JPG?itok=JWMWhri8" width="1600" height="1200" alt="" class="image-xlarge_wm_brw aligncenter image-xlarge"> Lithium-ion batteries are commonplace in many devices, and they're also the same type of battery that your iPhone uses. Without going down a technical rabbit hole, these batteries rely on a chemical reaction to produce power and charge; when they get cold, that chemical reaction slows down, causing your battery to perform poorly. The easiest way to prevent the cold weather from negatively impacting your phone's performance is to keep your iPhone as warm as possible. If you plan to venture out into the cold this winter with your phone, do your best to keep it warm - especially if you're going out for a significant length of time. Try putting your phone into an inside coat pocket or under a layer or two to keep it nice and toasty when your life takes you into the winter wind! Apple has a few handy tips for maximizing your battery's performance, and recently, the company explained why older iPhones can experience a slow down in performance due to cold conditions. Never charge a cold battery <img src="https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge_wm_brw/public /field/image/2017/09/iphone-8-mophie-wireless-charger.jpg?itok=kOr21uLr" width="1600" height="1200" alt="" class="image-xlarge_wm_brw aligncenter image-xlarge"> If you do end up leaving your phone in the car one night or spending
RE: How to keep your phone (and fingers) from freezing this winter, iMore
Ok, Mark as interrsting and usefull as this article is, I have one major question about it. How the hell do they know that the temperature of the city or area of the country they live in is colder than the surface temperature of Mars? Last time I checked earthlings had not yet been to mars, Ok people have sent robots and other tools, But still those devices can not confirm that the temperatures on Mars are warmer or colder than that here on earth, And I can't say I've ever met a martion that has come to earth and said they'd come for a warmer break from the cold as temps on the red planet, When man kind gets to mars may be then I'll believe the statement. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2018 7:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: How to keep your phone (and fingers) from freezing this winter, iMore How to keep your phone (and fingers) from freezing this winter By Luke Filipowicz, 5 Jan 2018 Although Christmas has come and gone and we are securely into 2018, many of us still have to deal with a few months of cold, snowy, and windy weather. Using your phone outdoors can be tricky - and potentially dangerous - if you live in a city that can get colder than the surface of Mars (like I do). Personal experience is the best experience Yes, I live in a city where it occasionally gets colder than the surface of Mars. Winnipeg - "Winterpeg" for the pun enthusiasts - has some pretty harsh weather during the winter months, and although we locals like to think it make us extra tough, it can really suck to use your phone outdoors during the cold months. Last year, around this time, I was doing some social media work for a local minor hockey team and they were having an outdoor game as part of a fundraiser. I can't remember exactly how cold it was, but I can tell you I was wearing three sweaters, two jackets, three different types of pants, and about 3 pairs of socks; I was still cold. As the game was starting, I started snapping pictures with my DSLR, sending them to my iPhone, and posting on the teams' social media accounts. Before the first period was even halfway over - less than 10 mins for those less sports-inclined folks - my fully charged iPhone 5S was at 10% battery life and I had gotten some mild frostbite on my fingers from using my phone. It sucked. The sub-zero temperatures aren't only bad news for your hands and fingers, but cold is no friend to your device's battery either. In fact, you can do some real damage to your iPhone's battery if you try charging it while it's cold. Here's a short and sweet guide to keeping your iPhone and hands warm this winter. Protect your battery from the cold <img src="https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge_wm_brw/public /field/image/2017/11/outdoor-scene-winter-iphone-8-plus.JPG?itok=JWMWhri8" width="1600" height="1200" alt="" class="image-xlarge_wm_brw aligncenter image-xlarge"> Lithium-ion batteries are commonplace in many devices, and they're also the same type of battery that your iPhone uses. Without going down a technical rabbit hole, these batteries rely on a chemical reaction to produce power and charge; when they get cold, that chemical reaction slows down, causing your battery to perform poorly. The easiest way to prevent the cold weather from negatively impacting your phone's performance is to keep your iPhone as warm as possible. If you plan to venture out into the cold this winter with your phone, do your best to keep it warm - especially if you're going out for a significant length of time. Try putting your phone into an inside coat pocket or under a layer or two to keep it nice and toasty when your life takes you into the winter wind! Apple has a few handy tips for maximizing your battery's performance, and recently, the company explained why older iPhones can experience a slow down in performance due to cold conditions. Never charge a cold battery <img src="https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge_wm_brw/public /field/image/2017/09/iphone-8-mophie-wireless-charger.jpg?itok=kOr21uLr" width="1600" height="1200" alt="" class="image-xlarge_wm_brw aligncenter image-xlarge"> If you do end up leaving your phone in the car one night or spending too long outside with your iPhone exposed to the elements, make sure you let it warm up before you charge it. I know it may be tempting to plug it in right away - especially if it's dead - but charging a cold battery can really screw it up. Give your iPhone sometime to warm up before you go plugging it into the wall. Touchscreen gloves are lifesavers! <img src="https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge_wm_brw/public /field/image/2016/11/best-touchscreen-glove-for-winter-hero-01.jpg?itok=SsZ7 5qv0" width="1600" height="1200" alt="" class="image-xlarge_wm_brw aligncenter ima