Re: Macs and Rehab agenciesRe: Microsoft Office 2011 period

2010-10-27 Thread Eric Oyen
I have one word for that: SWEET!

I wish I had one of those.

-Eric

On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:

 I will outline my strategy in a later email. As far as the particular Mac I 
 have...
 
 15 MacBook Pro w/ I7 processor and 8 GB RAM and 7200 RPM 500 GB hard drive
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 

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Re: Macs and Rehab agenciesRe: Microsoft Office 2011 period

2010-10-27 Thread Rob Lambert
I just wanted to say I think it's wonderful that rehab agencies are finally
getting away from Windows, and are opening up to the Mac. This was needed
for the past three years.

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have one word for that: SWEET!

 I wish I had one of those.

 -Eric

 On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:

  I will outline my strategy in a later email. As far as the particular Mac
 I have...
 
  15 MacBook Pro w/ I7 processor and 8 GB RAM and 7200 RPM 500 GB hard
 drive
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 

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Re: Macs and Rehab agenciesRe: Microsoft Office 2011 period

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
It is a power house. I am, among other things, a musician. One of the reasons 
for the increased hardware specs are so that I can effectively run Pro Tools 
once I am up to the task. I imagine I'll have to spring for PT myself, though.


On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote:

 Cheree Heppe here:
 
 Powerful!
 
 
 Regards,
 Cheree Heppe
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Joshua Loya jloy...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 22:34
 Subject: Re: Macs and Rehab agenciesRe: Microsoft Office 2011 period
 
 
 I will outline my strategy in a later email. As far as the particular Mac I 
 have...
 
 15 MacBook Pro w/ I7 processor and 8 GB RAM and 7200 RPM 500 GB hard drive
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 26, 2010, at 9:55 PM, Cheree Heppe che...@dogsc4me.com wrote:
 
 Cheree Heppe here:
 
 Way to go!!  Maybe you should describe your strategies.  A lot of blind 
 people I've spoken with want to migrate.
 
 Is this the latest Air incarnation that just came out?  I just saw it.  It's 
 really enhanced.
 
 Oh, why couldn't I be rich instead of so good looking?  (smile)
 
 
 Regards,
 Cheree Heppe
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Joshua Loya jloy...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 21:26
 Subject: Macs and Rehab agenciesRe: Microsoft Office 2011 period
 
 
 Hello all,
 I suppose I should count myself very fortunate. It took a lot of work on my 
 part, but I managed to convince my Rehab counselor here in San Diego that a 
 Mac was the best option for a new laptop for yours truly. I started the 
 process in March, and I got my Macbook Pro just last week. It did help, of 
 course, that I was able to demonstrate that I had work opportunities with 
 people and organizations that were primarily using Macs.
 
 -Joshua
 
 
 On Oct 26, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
 
 Hi Scott:
 Denver Co, home of the lousy broncos and the lousier rehab department.  But 
 hey, we do have some good computers here, and the best ones are still the 
 Macs.:)
 
 
 Carolyn Haas
 chaas0...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Oct 26, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Scott Ford wrote:
 
 Hello,
 May I as where you live?  
 Scott
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Haas
 Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:38 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Cc: Carolyn Haas
 Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 period
 
 Heather:  I share your prospective.  I just met with a rehab counsellor who
 insists that there's really no place for the Mac in the work world.  (she
 also insists that since I'm doing ok with my Mac, I don't need a braille
 display.  Guess that's what I get for trying topfunction and be a part of a
 new solution.:)
 
 This counsellor actually suggested I might want to move somewhere where 
 they
 have the money and clientele to afford to keep up with the new 
 technologies.
 She also basically said no one is going to pay me to do this kind of
 exploration of helping discover and working toward of improvement of
 alternative technologies.  So, I feel more and more like it's mac-vs-pc, 
 and
 conform to the old ways, or you're on your own.  Sorry for venting. Thanks
 for reading.
 
 
 Carolyn Haas
 chaas0...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Oct 26, 2010, at 3:12 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote:
 
 Bill is responsible for that robot they call narrator and he claims
 windows is accessible.  While our friends at Apple, actually have a real
 screenreader built in to their system.  So, Bill is not doing anyone any
 favors by making us, windows users,  go out an by screenreaders worth more
 than their pc computers.  I want to put a blind fold over his eyes and make
 him use his own computer with just narrator, I am sure he would not get 
 very
 far!  Also, anyone who has to use word 2010 with jaws, has to by another 
 msa
 or their job has too.  And the mac users with voiceover, cant use it at 
 all.
 So he is an easy target.  Otherwise, he would have wised up a long time ago
 and had his own built in speech for windows but, he just does not care.  I
 am starting to use open office and pages more and the msword does not 
 matter
 that much anymore.  Heather 
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Re: Macs and Rehab agenciesRe: Microsoft Office 2011 period

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
It wasn't easy. Towards the end of the process, wen I thought everything had 
ben settled, my counselor spoke to somebody in the AT industry who told him 
that very few blind people use Macs and that they're not particularly 
accessible. It took about twenty minutes on the phone to set him straight. 
people whose livelihood depends on the AT industry staying pretty much as it 
has been for the last twenty years are scared, and it seems they will do some 
amazing things to protect their jobs.

On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:48 PM, Rob Lambert wrote:

 I just wanted to say I think it's wonderful that rehab agencies are finally 
 getting away from Windows, and are opening up to the Mac. This was needed for 
 the past three years.
 
 On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have one word for that: SWEET!
 
 I wish I had one of those.
 
 -Eric
 
 On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:
 
  I will outline my strategy in a later email. As far as the particular Mac I 
  have...
 
  15 MacBook Pro w/ I7 processor and 8 GB RAM and 7200 RPM 500 GB hard drive
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
 
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Re: Macs and Rehab agenciesRe: Microsoft Office 2011 period

2010-10-27 Thread Scott Granados
It's a pretty great setup you have there.  I have the same basic setup but on 
the 17 inch with the 500GB SSD drive instead of the 7200 RPM traditional.


Being able to run virtual machines like that is the bees knees.

I also find cracking WEP keys is pretty easy.:)  Love having that many cores.


On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:39 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:

 I have one word for that: SWEET!
 
 I wish I had one of those.
 
 -Eric
 
 On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:
 
 I will outline my strategy in a later email. As far as the particular Mac I 
 have...
 
 15 MacBook Pro w/ I7 processor and 8 GB RAM and 7200 RPM 500 GB hard drive
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
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Re: Macs and Rehab agenciesRe: Microsoft Office 2011 period

2010-10-27 Thread Eric Oyen
be careful. some people don't like war drivers. :)

yeah, having a mainframe in your lap is definitely worth the money. I have a 
dual core desktop unit here and I really wish I had 6 more cores.

-Eric

On Oct 27, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

 It's a pretty great setup you have there.  I have the same basic setup but on 
 the 17 inch with the 500GB SSD drive instead of the 7200 RPM traditional.
 
 
 Being able to run virtual machines like that is the bees knees.
 
 I also find cracking WEP keys is pretty easy.:)  Love having that many cores.
 
 
 On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:39 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
 
 I have one word for that: SWEET!
 
 I wish I had one of those.
 
 -Eric
 
 On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:
 
 I will outline my strategy in a later email. As far as the particular Mac I 
 have...
 
 15 MacBook Pro w/ I7 processor and 8 GB RAM and 7200 RPM 500 GB hard drive
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
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Re: Macs and Rehab agenciesRe: Microsoft Office 2011 period

2010-10-26 Thread Cheree Heppe
Cheree Heppe here:

Way to go!!  Maybe you should describe your strategies.  A lot of blind people 
I've spoken with want to migrate.

Is this the latest Air incarnation that just came out?  I just saw it.  It's 
really enhanced.

Oh, why couldn't I be rich instead of so good looking?  (smile)


Regards,
Cheree Heppe


- Original Message - 
From: Joshua Loya jloy...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 21:26
Subject: Macs and Rehab agenciesRe: Microsoft Office 2011 period


Hello all,
I suppose I should count myself very fortunate. It took a lot of work on my 
part, but I managed to convince my Rehab counselor here in San Diego that a Mac 
was the best option for a new laptop for yours truly. I started the process in 
March, and I got my Macbook Pro just last week. It did help, of course, that I 
was able to demonstrate that I had work opportunities with people and 
organizations that were primarily using Macs.

-Joshua


On Oct 26, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

 Hi Scott:
 Denver Co, home of the lousy broncos and the lousier rehab department.  But 
 hey, we do have some good computers here, and the best ones are still the 
 Macs.:)
 
 
 Carolyn Haas
 chaas0...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Oct 26, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Scott Ford wrote:
 
 Hello,
 May I as where you live?  
 Scott
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Haas
 Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:38 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Cc: Carolyn Haas
 Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 period
 
 Heather:  I share your prospective.  I just met with a rehab counsellor who
 insists that there's really no place for the Mac in the work world.  (she
 also insists that since I'm doing ok with my Mac, I don't need a braille
 display.  Guess that's what I get for trying topfunction and be a part of a
 new solution.:)
 
 This counsellor actually suggested I might want to move somewhere where they
 have the money and clientele to afford to keep up with the new technologies.
 She also basically said no one is going to pay me to do this kind of
 exploration of helping discover and working toward of improvement of
 alternative technologies.  So, I feel more and more like it's mac-vs-pc, and
 conform to the old ways, or you're on your own.  Sorry for venting. Thanks
 for reading.
 
 
 Carolyn Haas
 chaas0...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Oct 26, 2010, at 3:12 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote:
 
 Bill is responsible for that robot they call narrator and he claims
 windows is accessible.  While our friends at Apple, actually have a real
 screenreader built in to their system.  So, Bill is not doing anyone any
 favors by making us, windows users,  go out an by screenreaders worth more
 than their pc computers.  I want to put a blind fold over his eyes and make
 him use his own computer with just narrator, I am sure he would not get very
 far!  Also, anyone who has to use word 2010 with jaws, has to by another msa
 or their job has too.  And the mac users with voiceover, cant use it at all.
 So he is an easy target.  Otherwise, he would have wised up a long time ago
 and had his own built in speech for windows but, he just does not care.  I
 am starting to use open office and pages more and the msword does not matter
 that much anymore.  Heather 
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Re: Macs and Rehab agenciesRe: Microsoft Office 2011 period

2010-10-26 Thread Joshua Loya
I will outline my strategy in a later email. As far as the particular Mac I 
have...

15 MacBook Pro w/ I7 processor and 8 GB RAM and 7200 RPM 500 GB hard drive

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 26, 2010, at 9:55 PM, Cheree Heppe che...@dogsc4me.com wrote:

 Cheree Heppe here:
 
 Way to go!!  Maybe you should describe your strategies.  A lot of blind 
 people I've spoken with want to migrate.
 
 Is this the latest Air incarnation that just came out?  I just saw it.  It's 
 really enhanced.
 
 Oh, why couldn't I be rich instead of so good looking?  (smile)
 
 
 Regards,
 Cheree Heppe
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Joshua Loya jloy...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 21:26
 Subject: Macs and Rehab agenciesRe: Microsoft Office 2011 period
 
 
 Hello all,
 I suppose I should count myself very fortunate. It took a lot of work on my 
 part, but I managed to convince my Rehab counselor here in San Diego that a 
 Mac was the best option for a new laptop for yours truly. I started the 
 process in March, and I got my Macbook Pro just last week. It did help, of 
 course, that I was able to demonstrate that I had work opportunities with 
 people and organizations that were primarily using Macs.
 
 -Joshua
 
 
 On Oct 26, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
 
 Hi Scott:
 Denver Co, home of the lousy broncos and the lousier rehab department.  But 
 hey, we do have some good computers here, and the best ones are still the 
 Macs.:)
 
 
 Carolyn Haas
 chaas0...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Oct 26, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Scott Ford wrote:
 
 Hello,
 May I as where you live?  
 Scott
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Haas
 Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:38 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Cc: Carolyn Haas
 Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 period
 
 Heather:  I share your prospective.  I just met with a rehab counsellor who
 insists that there's really no place for the Mac in the work world.  (she
 also insists that since I'm doing ok with my Mac, I don't need a braille
 display.  Guess that's what I get for trying topfunction and be a part of a
 new solution.:)
 
 This counsellor actually suggested I might want to move somewhere where they
 have the money and clientele to afford to keep up with the new technologies.
 She also basically said no one is going to pay me to do this kind of
 exploration of helping discover and working toward of improvement of
 alternative technologies.  So, I feel more and more like it's mac-vs-pc, and
 conform to the old ways, or you're on your own.  Sorry for venting. Thanks
 for reading.
 
 
 Carolyn Haas
 chaas0...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Oct 26, 2010, at 3:12 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote:
 
 Bill is responsible for that robot they call narrator and he claims
 windows is accessible.  While our friends at Apple, actually have a real
 screenreader built in to their system.  So, Bill is not doing anyone any
 favors by making us, windows users,  go out an by screenreaders worth more
 than their pc computers.  I want to put a blind fold over his eyes and make
 him use his own computer with just narrator, I am sure he would not get very
 far!  Also, anyone who has to use word 2010 with jaws, has to by another msa
 or their job has too.  And the mac users with voiceover, cant use it at all.
 So he is an easy target.  Otherwise, he would have wised up a long time ago
 and had his own built in speech for windows but, he just does not care.  I
 am starting to use open office and pages more and the msword does not matter
 that much anymore.  Heather 
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Re: Macs and Rehab agenciesRe: Microsoft Office 2011 period

2010-10-26 Thread Cheree Heppe
Cheree Heppe here:

Powerful!


Regards,
Cheree Heppe


- Original Message - 
From: Joshua Loya jloy...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 22:34
Subject: Re: Macs and Rehab agenciesRe: Microsoft Office 2011 period


I will outline my strategy in a later email. As far as the particular Mac I 
have...

15 MacBook Pro w/ I7 processor and 8 GB RAM and 7200 RPM 500 GB hard drive

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 26, 2010, at 9:55 PM, Cheree Heppe che...@dogsc4me.com wrote:

 Cheree Heppe here:
 
 Way to go!!  Maybe you should describe your strategies.  A lot of blind 
 people I've spoken with want to migrate.
 
 Is this the latest Air incarnation that just came out?  I just saw it.  It's 
 really enhanced.
 
 Oh, why couldn't I be rich instead of so good looking?  (smile)
 
 
 Regards,
 Cheree Heppe
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Joshua Loya jloy...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 21:26
 Subject: Macs and Rehab agenciesRe: Microsoft Office 2011 period
 
 
 Hello all,
 I suppose I should count myself very fortunate. It took a lot of work on my 
 part, but I managed to convince my Rehab counselor here in San Diego that a 
 Mac was the best option for a new laptop for yours truly. I started the 
 process in March, and I got my Macbook Pro just last week. It did help, of 
 course, that I was able to demonstrate that I had work opportunities with 
 people and organizations that were primarily using Macs.
 
 -Joshua
 
 
 On Oct 26, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
 
 Hi Scott:
 Denver Co, home of the lousy broncos and the lousier rehab department.  But 
 hey, we do have some good computers here, and the best ones are still the 
 Macs.:)
 
 
 Carolyn Haas
 chaas0...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Oct 26, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Scott Ford wrote:
 
 Hello,
 May I as where you live?  
 Scott
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Haas
 Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:38 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Cc: Carolyn Haas
 Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 period
 
 Heather:  I share your prospective.  I just met with a rehab counsellor who
 insists that there's really no place for the Mac in the work world.  (she
 also insists that since I'm doing ok with my Mac, I don't need a braille
 display.  Guess that's what I get for trying topfunction and be a part of a
 new solution.:)
 
 This counsellor actually suggested I might want to move somewhere where they
 have the money and clientele to afford to keep up with the new technologies.
 She also basically said no one is going to pay me to do this kind of
 exploration of helping discover and working toward of improvement of
 alternative technologies.  So, I feel more and more like it's mac-vs-pc, and
 conform to the old ways, or you're on your own.  Sorry for venting. Thanks
 for reading.
 
 
 Carolyn Haas
 chaas0...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Oct 26, 2010, at 3:12 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote:
 
 Bill is responsible for that robot they call narrator and he claims
 windows is accessible.  While our friends at Apple, actually have a real
 screenreader built in to their system.  So, Bill is not doing anyone any
 favors by making us, windows users,  go out an by screenreaders worth more
 than their pc computers.  I want to put a blind fold over his eyes and make
 him use his own computer with just narrator, I am sure he would not get very
 far!  Also, anyone who has to use word 2010 with jaws, has to by another msa
 or their job has too.  And the mac users with voiceover, cant use it at all.
 So he is an easy target.  Otherwise, he would have wised up a long time ago
 and had his own built in speech for windows but, he just does not care.  I
 am starting to use open office and pages more and the msword does not matter
 that much anymore.  Heather 
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