Re: Option Key Not Working

2013-12-04 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi!
OK just a couple of ideas!
1, do you have both option keys set to use with keyboard commander!
2, Just try switching off keyboard commander with VO+shift+k and see if the 
option key things like € • and others!
I've found if you need to use those items it is best to toggle on or off 
keyboard commander when needed!
HTH Colin

On 4 Dec 2013, at 07:25, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 My option key works technically, as if I press ctrl-option-space it works 
 just fine.
 
 However, if I try to navigate by word with option left or right arrow, it 
 doesn't work. The cursor just doesn't move and voiceover doesn't say 
 anything. I can use command arrow to navigate, or just the arrow keys 
 themselves, but not using option.
 
 i also can't use it to enter special characters, like accents and such.
 
 But it does work when I use it for keyboard commander to open certain 
 applications. So it seems very selective about when it works or not. I don't 
 understand why this is happening.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 Brandon
 
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Re: Option Key Not Working

2013-12-04 Thread Brandon Olivares
Nope it doesn't matter if keyboard commander is on or off.

On Dec 4, 2013, at 3:59 AM, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com 
wrote:

 Hi!
 OK just a couple of ideas!
 1, do you have both option keys set to use with keyboard commander!
 2, Just try switching off keyboard commander with VO+shift+k and see if the 
 option key things like € • and others!
 I've found if you need to use those items it is best to toggle on or off 
 keyboard commander when needed!
 HTH Colin
 
 On 4 Dec 2013, at 07:25, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 My option key works technically, as if I press ctrl-option-space it works 
 just fine.
 
 However, if I try to navigate by word with option left or right arrow, it 
 doesn't work. The cursor just doesn't move and voiceover doesn't say 
 anything. I can use command arrow to navigate, or just the arrow keys 
 themselves, but not using option.
 
 i also can't use it to enter special characters, like accents and such.
 
 But it does work when I use it for keyboard commander to open certain 
 applications. So it seems very selective about when it works or not. I don't 
 understand why this is happening.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 Brandon
 
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Re: Option Key Not Working

2013-12-04 Thread Phil Halton
I'll tell you an old computer axiom - when all else fails, reboot!
honestly, it's amazing how many quirky, inexplicable things that will clear up.

On Dec 4, 2013, at 2:25 AM, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 My option key works technically, as if I press ctrl-option-space it works 
 just fine.
 
 However, if I try to navigate by word with option left or right arrow, it 
 doesn't work. The cursor just doesn't move and voiceover doesn't say 
 anything. I can use command arrow to navigate, or just the arrow keys 
 themselves, but not using option.
 
 i also can't use it to enter special characters, like accents and such.
 
 But it does work when I use it for keyboard commander to open certain 
 applications. So it seems very selective about when it works or not. I don't 
 understand why this is happening.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 Brandon
 
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Re: Option Key Not Working

2013-12-04 Thread Brandon Olivares
Already did that, twice.

On Dec 4, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'll tell you an old computer axiom - when all else fails, reboot!
 honestly, it's amazing how many quirky, inexplicable things that will clear 
 up.
 
 On Dec 4, 2013, at 2:25 AM, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 My option key works technically, as if I press ctrl-option-space it works 
 just fine.
 
 However, if I try to navigate by word with option left or right arrow, it 
 doesn't work. The cursor just doesn't move and voiceover doesn't say 
 anything. I can use command arrow to navigate, or just the arrow keys 
 themselves, but not using option.
 
 i also can't use it to enter special characters, like accents and such.
 
 But it does work when I use it for keyboard commander to open certain 
 applications. So it seems very selective about when it works or not. I don't 
 understand why this is happening.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
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Re: Option Key Not Working

2013-12-04 Thread Cheryl Homiak
You shouldn't really be able to navigate with cmd-left and right arrow. What 
kind of keyboard are you using and/or are you sure you don't have command and 
option switched somehow?

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On Dec 4, 2013, at 10:17 AM, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Already did that, twice.
 
 On Dec 4, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll tell you an old computer axiom - when all else fails, reboot!
 honestly, it's amazing how many quirky, inexplicable things that will clear 
 up.
 
 On Dec 4, 2013, at 2:25 AM, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 My option key works technically, as if I press ctrl-option-space it works 
 just fine.
 
 However, if I try to navigate by word with option left or right arrow, it 
 doesn't work. The cursor just doesn't move and voiceover doesn't say 
 anything. I can use command arrow to navigate, or just the arrow keys 
 themselves, but not using option.
 
 i also can't use it to enter special characters, like accents and such.
 
 But it does work when I use it for keyboard commander to open certain 
 applications. So it seems very selective about when it works or not. I 
 don't understand why this is happening.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
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Re: Option Key Not Working

2013-12-04 Thread Brandon Olivares
Why shouldn't I be able to navigate with that? That is the shortcut for umping 
to the beginning or end of a line.

I figured out this problem, anywya. I accidentally had my keyboard set to 
unicode hex.

On Dec 4, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:

 You shouldn't really be able to navigate with cmd-left and right arrow. What 
 kind of keyboard are you using and/or are you sure you don't have command and 
 option switched somehow?
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
 meet Immanuel (God with us),
 Jesus, the crucified Savior,
 Christ, the risen Lord.
 
 
 
 On Dec 4, 2013, at 10:17 AM, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Already did that, twice.
 
 On Dec 4, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll tell you an old computer axiom - when all else fails, reboot!
 honestly, it's amazing how many quirky, inexplicable things that will clear 
 up.
 
 On Dec 4, 2013, at 2:25 AM, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 My option key works technically, as if I press ctrl-option-space it works 
 just fine.
 
 However, if I try to navigate by word with option left or right arrow, it 
 doesn't work. The cursor just doesn't move and voiceover doesn't say 
 anything. I can use command arrow to navigate, or just the arrow keys 
 themselves, but not using option.
 
 i also can't use it to enter special characters, like accents and such.
 
 But it does work when I use it for keyboard commander to open certain 
 applications. So it seems very selective about when it works or not. I 
 don't understand why this is happening.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 Brandon
 
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Re: Option Key Not Working

2013-12-04 Thread Cheryl Homiak
What I meant was that you couldn't do the same navigation with cmd-arrow as you 
can with option-arrow. Glad you figured it out.

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On Dec 4, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why shouldn't I be able to navigate with that? That is the shortcut for 
 umping to the beginning or end of a line.
 
 I figured out this problem, anywya. I accidentally had my keyboard set to 
 unicode hex.
 
 On Dec 4, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You shouldn't really be able to navigate with cmd-left and right arrow. What 
 kind of keyboard are you using and/or are you sure you don't have command 
 and option switched somehow?
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
 meet Immanuel (God with us),
 Jesus, the crucified Savior,
 Christ, the risen Lord.
 
 
 
 On Dec 4, 2013, at 10:17 AM, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Already did that, twice.
 
 On Dec 4, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll tell you an old computer axiom - when all else fails, reboot!
 honestly, it's amazing how many quirky, inexplicable things that will 
 clear up.
 
 On Dec 4, 2013, at 2:25 AM, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 My option key works technically, as if I press ctrl-option-space it works 
 just fine.
 
 However, if I try to navigate by word with option left or right arrow, it 
 doesn't work. The cursor just doesn't move and voiceover doesn't say 
 anything. I can use command arrow to navigate, or just the arrow keys 
 themselves, but not using option.
 
 i also can't use it to enter special characters, like accents and such.
 
 But it does work when I use it for keyboard commander to open certain 
 applications. So it seems very selective about when it works or not. I 
 don't understand why this is happening.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 Brandon
 
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