Re: Sierra 10.12.4

[Scott Granados]

I update my installer sticks as well.  You never know when you need a quick 
update to OS X somewhere.

> On Mar 29, 2017, at 10:08 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>   Every time there is an update, I copy it to an external drive (I save them 
> all for the current OS I am running) and rename it with the new version. Then 
> redo the USB installer now using Install Disk Creator.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 3/29/2017 4:42 AM, matthew dyer wrote:
>> Yes I know..  I have an ions;ler already.  I was just wondering if it is 
>> necessary to re download the installer each Time they release an update to 
>> Mac OS Sierra.  I have an installer, but it is not for  the latest upgrade.  
>> Hope this makes sense.
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2017, at 3:44 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah,
>>> Creating a bootable installer is bloody easy now and done from the terminal.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Dyer
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 29 March 2017 1:04 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Sierra 10.12.4
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Is this even necessary to do everytime a new update is released.  Is it 
>>> still possible to create a bootable mac os recovery?  Recovery disk 
>>> assistant use to be able to do this, but last time I tried it I got a blank 
>>> window when I opened it.  I guess this is not possible.
>>> 
>>> Matthew
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 12:46 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4
>>> 
>>> Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 
>>> 12.4 install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the 
>>> file under Applications.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to download 
>>>> the installation file to build the installer later on. Used to be one 
>>>> could find the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the world,
>>>> all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
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RE: Sierra 10.12.4

[Simon Fogarty]

I try to keep my installers up to date, 
However I don’t' go rushing to recreate my installer everytime there is a new 
SP  or update out.

 I keep the most recently released .app file or DMG on an external drive, but 
will happily update from the apple updates service when installing a machine 
form the USB I have on me.



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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Thursday, 30 March 2017 3:08 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4

Every time there is an update, I copy it to an external drive (I save them 
all for the current OS I am running) and rename it with the new version. Then 
redo the USB installer now using Install Disk Creator.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/29/2017 4:42 AM, matthew dyer wrote:
> Yes I know..  I have an ions;ler already.  I was just wondering if it is 
> necessary to re download the installer each Time they release an update to 
> Mac OS Sierra.  I have an installer, but it is not for  the latest upgrade.  
> Hope this makes sense.
>
> Matthew
>
>
>> On Mar 29, 2017, at 3:44 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah,
>> Creating a bootable installer is bloody easy now and done from the terminal.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Dyer
>> Sent: Wednesday, 29 March 2017 1:04 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Sierra 10.12.4
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is this even necessary to do everytime a new update is released.  Is it 
>> still possible to create a bootable mac os recovery?  Recovery disk 
>> assistant use to be able to do this, but last time I tried it I got a blank 
>> window when I opened it.  I guess this is not possible.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 12:46 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4
>>
>> Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 12.4 
>> install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the file 
>> under Applications.
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to download 
>>> the installation file to build the installer later on. Used to be one could 
>>> find the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?
>>>
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the 
>>> world, all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your 
>>> mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: Sierra 10.12.4

[E.T.]

   Every time there is an update, I copy it to an external drive (I 
save them all for the current OS I am running) and rename it with the 
new version. Then redo the USB installer now using Install Disk Creator.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/29/2017 4:42 AM, matthew dyer wrote:

Yes I know..  I have an ions;ler already.  I was just wondering if it is 
necessary to re download the installer each Time they release an update to Mac 
OS Sierra.  I have an installer, but it is not for  the latest upgrade.  Hope 
this makes sense.

Matthew



On Mar 29, 2017, at 3:44 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Yeah,
Creating a bootable installer is bloody easy now and done from the terminal.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Matthew Dyer
Sent: Wednesday, 29 March 2017 1:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sierra 10.12.4

Hi,

Is this even necessary to do everytime a new update is released.  Is it still 
possible to create a bootable mac os recovery?  Recovery disk assistant use to 
be able to do this, but last time I tried it I got a blank window when I opened 
it.  I guess this is not possible.

Matthew



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 12:46 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4

Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 12.4 
install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the file under 
Applications.



On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

 Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to download the 
installation file to build the installer later on. Used to be one could find 
the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the world,
all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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Re: Sierra 10.12.4

[matthew dyer]

Yes I know..  I have an ions;ler already.  I was just wondering if it is 
necessary to re download the installer each Time they release an update to Mac 
OS Sierra.  I have an installer, but it is not for  the latest upgrade.  Hope 
this makes sense.

Matthew


> On Mar 29, 2017, at 3:44 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Yeah,
> Creating a bootable installer is bloody easy now and done from the terminal.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Dyer
> Sent: Wednesday, 29 March 2017 1:04 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sierra 10.12.4
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is this even necessary to do everytime a new update is released.  Is it still 
> possible to create a bootable mac os recovery?  Recovery disk assistant use 
> to be able to do this, but last time I tried it I got a blank window when I 
> opened it.  I guess this is not possible.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 12:46 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4
> 
> Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 12.4 
> install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the file 
> under Applications.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to download 
>> the installation file to build the installer later on. Used to be one could 
>> find the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the world, 
>> all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off 
>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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RE: Sierra 10.12.4

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah,
Creating a bootable installer is bloody easy now and done from the terminal.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Matthew Dyer
Sent: Wednesday, 29 March 2017 1:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sierra 10.12.4

Hi,

Is this even necessary to do everytime a new update is released.  Is it still 
possible to create a bootable mac os recovery?  Recovery disk assistant use to 
be able to do this, but last time I tried it I got a blank window when I opened 
it.  I guess this is not possible.

Matthew



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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 12:46 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4

Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 12.4 
install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the file under 
Applications.


> On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>   Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to download 
> the installation file to build the installer later on. Used to be one could 
> find the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the world, 
> all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off 
> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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RE: Sierra 10.12.4

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi ET,

Yeah do the update and then when the install info comes up you need to cancel 
the update and check then the applications folder to see if install macos 
sierra is in your apps folder 

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On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Wednesday, 29 March 2017 4:20 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4

I have. I never saw a download button, just update all. I looked in both 
Categories and Featured. At one time there was a OS X category but not now.

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On 3/28/2017 8:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> That’s what I’m saying, try again because it downloaded fine on this side.  I 
> can’t duplicate your error.
>
>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 11:14 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>>   No no no. I do not have the file that normally is downloaded to the 
>> applications folder.
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the 
>> world, all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your 
>> mind off  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>
>> On 3/28/2017 8:12 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> I can’t suggest anything but try again, it seemed to work fine on this side 
>>> and I used the standard mechanism (terminal commands) to create the 
>>> installer.
>>>
>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 11:10 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  So now my thread is hijacked, and I still have no answer. (smiles)
>>>>
>>>>  The installation was not downloaded so is not in Purchased. I need to 
>>>> find where I can download it.
>>>>
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the 
>>>> world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your 
>>>> mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>
>>>> On 3/28/2017 6:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>>> I’ll take steelhead or riverbed WAN acceleration for 400 Alex.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can use a WAN optimizer or caching engine for this so you don’t have 
>>>>> to move all the bits end to end each time plus optimizing the window 
>>>>> sizes and such to get that data on through as fast as possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> I peered with Apple while working at Trip Advisor just for this 
>>>>> reason.:)
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 5:07 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it looks like apple have had a fun day of update releasing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh well tomorrow will be interesting,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How to bring a network to  a holt!
>>>>>> Get 4000 + mac computers downloading the newest update to their machines.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott 
>>>>>> Granados
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2017 5:46 PM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 
>>>>>> 12.4 install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the 
>>>>>> file under Applications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to 
>>>>>>> download the installation file to build the installer later on. Used to 
>>>>>>> be one could find the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of t

RE: Sierra 10.12.4

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi ET,
 You talking about the the new sierra installer?

 Well if it's not in your applications folder then sounds to me like the dl 
didn't complete,

Can you try it again if you hvaen't already.

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Sent: Wednesday, 29 March 2017 4:14 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4

No no no. I do not have the file that normally is downloaded to the 
applications folder.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/28/2017 8:12 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> I can’t suggest anything but try again, it seemed to work fine on this side 
> and I used the standard mechanism (terminal commands) to create the installer.
>
>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 11:10 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>>   So now my thread is hijacked, and I still have no answer. (smiles)
>>
>>   The installation was not downloaded so is not in Purchased. I need to find 
>> where I can download it.
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the 
>> world, all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your 
>> mind off  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>
>> On 3/28/2017 6:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> I’ll take steelhead or riverbed WAN acceleration for 400 Alex.
>>>
>>> You can use a WAN optimizer or caching engine for this so you don’t have to 
>>> move all the bits end to end each time plus optimizing the window sizes and 
>>> such to get that data on through as fast as possible.
>>>
>>> I peered with Apple while working at Trip Advisor just for this 
>>> reason.:)
>>>
>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 5:07 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So it looks like apple have had a fun day of update releasing
>>>>
>>>> Oh well tomorrow will be interesting,
>>>>
>>>> How to bring a network to  a holt!
>>>> Get 4000 + mac computers downloading the newest update to their machines.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott 
>>>> Granados
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2017 5:46 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4
>>>>
>>>> Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 
>>>> 12.4 install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the 
>>>> file under Applications.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to download 
>>>>> the installation file to build the installer later on. Used to be one 
>>>>> could find the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?
>>>>>
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the 
>>>>> world, all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn 
>>>>> your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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RE: Sierra 10.12.4

[Matthew Dyer]

Did you go to the app store and search for serreia?  If so, you should find it 
in there.  





Not sure why you would need to do this after each serreia update, ee last 
message for that.

Matthew



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 11:14 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4

No no no. I do not have the file that normally is downloaded to the 
applications folder.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/28/2017 8:12 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> I can’t suggest anything but try again, it seemed to work fine on this side 
> and I used the standard mechanism (terminal commands) to create the installer.
>
>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 11:10 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>>   So now my thread is hijacked, and I still have no answer. (smiles)
>>
>>   The installation was not downloaded so is not in Purchased. I need to find 
>> where I can download it.
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the 
>> world, all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your 
>> mind off  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>
>> On 3/28/2017 6:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> I’ll take steelhead or riverbed WAN acceleration for 400 Alex.
>>>
>>> You can use a WAN optimizer or caching engine for this so you don’t have to 
>>> move all the bits end to end each time plus optimizing the window sizes and 
>>> such to get that data on through as fast as possible.
>>>
>>> I peered with Apple while working at Trip Advisor just for this 
>>> reason.:)
>>>
>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 5:07 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So it looks like apple have had a fun day of update releasing
>>>>
>>>> Oh well tomorrow will be interesting,
>>>>
>>>> How to bring a network to  a holt!
>>>> Get 4000 + mac computers downloading the newest update to their machines.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott 
>>>> Granados
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2017 5:46 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4
>>>>
>>>> Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 
>>>> 12.4 install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the 
>>>> file under Applications.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to download 
>>>>> the installation file to build the installer later on. Used to be one 
>>>>> could find the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?
>>>>>
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the 
>>>>> world, all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn 
>>>>> your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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RE: Sierra 10.12.4

[Matthew Dyer]

Hi,

Is this even necessary to do everytime a new update is released.  Is it still 
possible to create a bootable mac os recovery?  Recovery disk assistant use to 
be able to do this, but last time I tried it I got a blank window when I opened 
it.  I guess this is not possible.

Matthew



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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 12:46 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4

Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 12.4 
install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the file under 
Applications.


> On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>   Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to download 
> the installation file to build the installer later on. Used to be one could 
> find the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the world, 
> all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off  
> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
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Re: Sierra 10.12.4

[Andrew Lamanche]

How about getting the combo OSX update from Apple support pages?  
> On 28 Mar 2017, at 16:23, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You'll never get the full download from the Update page, and if there's no OS 
> updates available for your system, then there will not be an OS Updates group.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 28, 2017, at 09:20, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>  I have. I never saw a download button, just update all. I looked in both 
> Categories and Featured. At one time there was a OS X category but not now.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 3/28/2017 8:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> That’s what I’m saying, try again because it downloaded fine on this side.  
>> I can’t duplicate your error.
>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 11:14 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> No no no. I do not have the file that normally is downloaded to the 
>>> applications folder.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 3/28/2017 8:12 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>> I can’t suggest anything but try again, it seemed to work fine on this 
>>>> side and I used the standard mechanism (terminal commands) to create the 
>>>> installer.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 11:10 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> So now my thread is hijacked, and I still have no answer. (smiles)
>>>>> 
>>>>> The installation was not downloaded so is not in Purchased. I need to 
>>>>> find where I can download it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/28/2017 6:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>>>> I’ll take steelhead or riverbed WAN acceleration for 400 Alex.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can use a WAN optimizer or caching engine for this so you don’t have 
>>>>>> to move all the bits end to end each time plus optimizing the window 
>>>>>> sizes and such to get that data on through as fast as possible.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I peered with Apple while working at Trip Advisor just for this reason.:)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 5:07 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So it looks like apple have had a fun day of update releasing
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Oh well tomorrow will be interesting,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> How to bring a network to  a holt!
>>>>>>> Get 4000 + mac computers downloading the newest update to their 
>>>>>>> machines.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2017 5:46 PM
>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 
>>>>>>> 12.4 install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find 
>>>>>>> the file under Applications.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Everything looks fine. However I canno

Re: Sierra 10.12.4

[E.T.]

   I got it, just did not go deep enough into a category.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/28/2017 8:23 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

You'll never get the full download from the Update page, and if there's no OS 
updates available for your system, then there will not be an OS Updates group.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 28, 2017, at 09:20, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

  I have. I never saw a download button, just update all. I looked in both 
Categories and Featured. At one time there was a OS X category but not now.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/28/2017 8:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

That’s what I’m saying, try again because it downloaded fine on this side.  I 
can’t duplicate your error.


On Mar 28, 2017, at 11:14 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

 No no no. I do not have the file that normally is downloaded to the 
applications folder.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/28/2017 8:12 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

I can’t suggest anything but try again, it seemed to work fine on this side and 
I used the standard mechanism (terminal commands) to create the installer.


On Mar 28, 2017, at 11:10 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

So now my thread is hijacked, and I still have no answer. (smiles)

The installation was not downloaded so is not in Purchased. I need to find 
where I can download it.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/28/2017 6:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

I’ll take steelhead or riverbed WAN acceleration for 400 Alex.

You can use a WAN optimizer or caching engine for this so you don’t have to 
move all the bits end to end each time plus optimizing the window sizes and 
such to get that data on through as fast as possible.

I peered with Apple while working at Trip Advisor just for this reason.:)


On Mar 28, 2017, at 5:07 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

So it looks like apple have had a fun day of update releasing

Oh well tomorrow will be interesting,

How to bring a network to  a holt!
Get 4000 + mac computers downloading the newest update to their machines.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2017 5:46 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4

Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 12.4 
install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the file under 
Applications.



On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to download the 
installation file to build the installer later on. Used to be one could find 
the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the world,
all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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Re: Sierra 10.12.4

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

You'll never get the full download from the Update page, and if there's no OS 
updates available for your system, then there will not be an OS Updates group.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 28, 2017, at 09:20, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

  I have. I never saw a download button, just update all. I looked in both 
Categories and Featured. At one time there was a OS X category but not now.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/28/2017 8:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> That’s what I’m saying, try again because it downloaded fine on this side.  I 
> can’t duplicate your error.
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 11:14 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  No no no. I do not have the file that normally is downloaded to the 
>> applications folder.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 3/28/2017 8:12 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> I can’t suggest anything but try again, it seemed to work fine on this side 
>>> and I used the standard mechanism (terminal commands) to create the 
>>> installer.
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 11:10 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> So now my thread is hijacked, and I still have no answer. (smiles)
>>>> 
>>>> The installation was not downloaded so is not in Purchased. I need to find 
>>>> where I can download it.
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/28/2017 6:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>>> I’ll take steelhead or riverbed WAN acceleration for 400 Alex.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can use a WAN optimizer or caching engine for this so you don’t have 
>>>>> to move all the bits end to end each time plus optimizing the window 
>>>>> sizes and such to get that data on through as fast as possible.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I peered with Apple while working at Trip Advisor just for this reason.:)
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 5:07 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So it looks like apple have had a fun day of update releasing
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oh well tomorrow will be interesting,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How to bring a network to  a holt!
>>>>>> Get 4000 + mac computers downloading the newest update to their machines.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2017 5:46 PM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 
>>>>>> 12.4 install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the 
>>>>>> file under Applications.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to 
>>>>>>> download the installation file to build the installer later on. Used to 
>>>>>>> be one could find the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the world,
>>>>>>> all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>>>> and sa

Re: Sierra 10.12.4

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

What you need to do if it doesn't show up in your Purchased items is do a 
search for Sierra.  MacOS Sierra should be the top most result, download it 
from this search result.  It's always the most up to date installer.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 28, 2017, at 09:16, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:

That’s what I’m saying, try again because it downloaded fine on this side.  I 
can’t duplicate your error.

> On Mar 28, 2017, at 11:14 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>  No no no. I do not have the file that normally is downloaded to the 
> applications folder.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 3/28/2017 8:12 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> I can’t suggest anything but try again, it seemed to work fine on this side 
>> and I used the standard mechanism (terminal commands) to create the 
>> installer.
>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 11:10 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So now my thread is hijacked, and I still have no answer. (smiles)
>>> 
>>> The installation was not downloaded so is not in Purchased. I need to find 
>>> where I can download it.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 3/28/2017 6:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>> I’ll take steelhead or riverbed WAN acceleration for 400 Alex.
>>>> 
>>>> You can use a WAN optimizer or caching engine for this so you don’t have 
>>>> to move all the bits end to end each time plus optimizing the window sizes 
>>>> and such to get that data on through as fast as possible.
>>>> 
>>>> I peered with Apple while working at Trip Advisor just for this reason.:)
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 5:07 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> So it looks like apple have had a fun day of update releasing
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oh well tomorrow will be interesting,
>>>>> 
>>>>> How to bring a network to  a holt!
>>>>> Get 4000 + mac computers downloading the newest update to their machines.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2017 5:46 PM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 
>>>>> 12.4 install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the 
>>>>> file under Applications.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to download 
>>>>>> the installation file to build the installer later on. Used to be one 
>>>>>> could find the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the world,
>>>>>> all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: Sierra 10.12.4

[E.T.]

   I have. I never saw a download button, just update all. I looked in 
both Categories and Featured. At one time there was a OS X category but 
not now.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/28/2017 8:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

That’s what I’m saying, try again because it downloaded fine on this side.  I 
can’t duplicate your error.


On Mar 28, 2017, at 11:14 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

  No no no. I do not have the file that normally is downloaded to the 
applications folder.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/28/2017 8:12 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

I can’t suggest anything but try again, it seemed to work fine on this side and 
I used the standard mechanism (terminal commands) to create the installer.


On Mar 28, 2017, at 11:10 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

 So now my thread is hijacked, and I still have no answer. (smiles)

 The installation was not downloaded so is not in Purchased. I need to find 
where I can download it.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/28/2017 6:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

I’ll take steelhead or riverbed WAN acceleration for 400 Alex.

You can use a WAN optimizer or caching engine for this so you don’t have to 
move all the bits end to end each time plus optimizing the window sizes and 
such to get that data on through as fast as possible.

I peered with Apple while working at Trip Advisor just for this reason.:)


On Mar 28, 2017, at 5:07 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

So it looks like apple have had a fun day of update releasing

Oh well tomorrow will be interesting,

How to bring a network to  a holt!
Get 4000 + mac computers downloading the newest update to their machines.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2017 5:46 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4

Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 12.4 
install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the file under 
Applications.



On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to download the 
installation file to build the installer later on. Used to be one could find 
the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the world,
all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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Re: Sierra 10.12.4

[Scott Granados]

That’s what I’m saying, try again because it downloaded fine on this side.  I 
can’t duplicate your error.

> On Mar 28, 2017, at 11:14 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>   No no no. I do not have the file that normally is downloaded to the 
> applications folder.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 3/28/2017 8:12 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> I can’t suggest anything but try again, it seemed to work fine on this side 
>> and I used the standard mechanism (terminal commands) to create the 
>> installer.
>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 11:10 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  So now my thread is hijacked, and I still have no answer. (smiles)
>>> 
>>>  The installation was not downloaded so is not in Purchased. I need to find 
>>> where I can download it.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 3/28/2017 6:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>> I’ll take steelhead or riverbed WAN acceleration for 400 Alex.
>>>> 
>>>> You can use a WAN optimizer or caching engine for this so you don’t have 
>>>> to move all the bits end to end each time plus optimizing the window sizes 
>>>> and such to get that data on through as fast as possible.
>>>> 
>>>> I peered with Apple while working at Trip Advisor just for this reason.:)
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 5:07 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> So it looks like apple have had a fun day of update releasing
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oh well tomorrow will be interesting,
>>>>> 
>>>>> How to bring a network to  a holt!
>>>>> Get 4000 + mac computers downloading the newest update to their machines.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2017 5:46 PM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 
>>>>> 12.4 install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the 
>>>>> file under Applications.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to download 
>>>>>> the installation file to build the installer later on. Used to be one 
>>>>>> could find the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the world,
>>>>>> all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
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Re: Sierra 10.12.4

[E.T.]

   No no no. I do not have the file that normally is downloaded to the 
applications folder.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/28/2017 8:12 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

I can’t suggest anything but try again, it seemed to work fine on this side and 
I used the standard mechanism (terminal commands) to create the installer.


On Mar 28, 2017, at 11:10 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

  So now my thread is hijacked, and I still have no answer. (smiles)

  The installation was not downloaded so is not in Purchased. I need to find 
where I can download it.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/28/2017 6:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

I’ll take steelhead or riverbed WAN acceleration for 400 Alex.

You can use a WAN optimizer or caching engine for this so you don’t have to 
move all the bits end to end each time plus optimizing the window sizes and 
such to get that data on through as fast as possible.

I peered with Apple while working at Trip Advisor just for this reason.:)


On Mar 28, 2017, at 5:07 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

So it looks like apple have had a fun day of update releasing

Oh well tomorrow will be interesting,

How to bring a network to  a holt!
Get 4000 + mac computers downloading the newest update to their machines.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2017 5:46 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4

Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 12.4 
install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the file under 
Applications.



On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to download the 
installation file to build the installer later on. Used to be one could find 
the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the world,
all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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Re: Sierra 10.12.4

[Scott Granados]

I can’t suggest anything but try again, it seemed to work fine on this side and 
I used the standard mechanism (terminal commands) to create the installer.

> On Mar 28, 2017, at 11:10 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>   So now my thread is hijacked, and I still have no answer. (smiles)
> 
>   The installation was not downloaded so is not in Purchased. I need to find 
> where I can download it.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 3/28/2017 6:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> I’ll take steelhead or riverbed WAN acceleration for 400 Alex.
>> 
>> You can use a WAN optimizer or caching engine for this so you don’t have to 
>> move all the bits end to end each time plus optimizing the window sizes and 
>> such to get that data on through as fast as possible.
>> 
>> I peered with Apple while working at Trip Advisor just for this reason.:)
>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 5:07 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So it looks like apple have had a fun day of update releasing
>>> 
>>> Oh well tomorrow will be interesting,
>>> 
>>> How to bring a network to  a holt!
>>> Get 4000 + mac computers downloading the newest update to their machines.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2017 5:46 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4
>>> 
>>> Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 
>>> 12.4 install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the 
>>> file under Applications.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to download 
>>>> the installation file to build the installer later on. Used to be one 
>>>> could find the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the world,
>>>> all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> 
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Re: Sierra 10.12.4

[E.T.]

   So now my thread is hijacked, and I still have no answer. (smiles)

   The installation was not downloaded so is not in Purchased. I need 
to find where I can download it.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/28/2017 6:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

I’ll take steelhead or riverbed WAN acceleration for 400 Alex.

You can use a WAN optimizer or caching engine for this so you don’t have to 
move all the bits end to end each time plus optimizing the window sizes and 
such to get that data on through as fast as possible.

I peered with Apple while working at Trip Advisor just for this reason.:)


On Mar 28, 2017, at 5:07 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

So it looks like apple have had a fun day of update releasing

Oh well tomorrow will be interesting,

How to bring a network to  a holt!
Get 4000 + mac computers downloading the newest update to their machines.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2017 5:46 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4

Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 12.4 
install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the file under 
Applications.



On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

 Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to download the 
installation file to build the installer later on. Used to be one could find 
the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the world,
all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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Re: Sierra 10.12.4

[Scott Granados]

I’ll take steelhead or riverbed WAN acceleration for 400 Alex.

You can use a WAN optimizer or caching engine for this so you don’t have to 
move all the bits end to end each time plus optimizing the window sizes and 
such to get that data on through as fast as possible.

I peered with Apple while working at Trip Advisor just for this reason.:)

> On Mar 28, 2017, at 5:07 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> So it looks like apple have had a fun day of update releasing
> 
> Oh well tomorrow will be interesting,
> 
> How to bring a network to  a holt!
> Get 4000 + mac computers downloading the newest update to their machines.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2017 5:46 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4
> 
> Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 12.4 
> install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the file 
> under Applications.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to download 
>> the installation file to build the installer later on. Used to be one could 
>> find the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the world,
>> all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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RE: Sierra 10.12.4

[Simon Fogarty]

So it looks like apple have had a fun day of update releasing 

Oh well tomorrow will be interesting,

 How to bring a network to  a holt!
Get 4000 + mac computers downloading the newest update to their machines.

 

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2017 5:46 PM
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Subject: Re: Sierra 10.12.4

Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 12.4 
install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the file under 
Applications.


> On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>   Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to download 
> the installation file to build the installer later on. Used to be one could 
> find the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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Re: Sierra 10.12.4

[E.T.]

   That is the problem. I never saw a continue button anywhere so did 
not actually download the file and afterwards, looked in the 
applications folder and under the Purchased tab as well. No joy.


   I started from updates which might be the reason.

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E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/27/2017 9:45 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 12.4 
install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the file under 
Applications.



On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T.  wrote:

  Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to download the 
installation file to build the installer later on. Used to be one could find 
the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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Re: Sierra 10.12.4

[Scott Granados]

Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 12.4 
install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the file under 
Applications.


> On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T.  wrote:
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