Re: Skype for business

[Jonathan Cohn]

Some of below is intended with humor also, mostly not a Macintosh/Apple 
discussion, so please reply directly to me:

jon.c.c...@gmail.com  
 

I thought the newest scripts were called 1.0 so obviously the one I currently 
have installed on my computer is .9. But then of course I could be wrong. I 
wasn't able to wrap my head around what the keystrokes were for the newer 
scripts, and and my company firewall said only 6 people have downloaded this 
software, I am not sure it is legit. So I gave up. I like  control-shift-H to 
view history, and alt-1 to read the last message. 
 On a related note: any chance that your python controls for Skype will do 
anything for Skype for Business? I could see some interesting things to do with 
that on my Macintosh.
Thanks,

Jonathan



> On Jul 3, 2017, at 11:01 PM, Doug Lee  wrote:
> 
> Which version are you calling .9? Trying to figure out if you prefer the key 
> sequences in the newer scripts, or the Ctrl+Shift commands in
> the older scripts, or if you are saying there was a change in actual SFB 
> keystrokes not related to my scripts. I changed from Ctrl+Shift
> commands to sequences because of keystroke collisions. I'm starting to do 
> that a lot nowadays in light of the increasing number of apps that
> self-update without asking, add and change keystrokes whenever they like, etc.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 10:14:02PM -0400, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>   Make sure to get the Doug Lee Scripts at [1]lee.org I personally prefer
>   the keystrokes from the .9 version.
> 
>   Also note, some Windows firewall systems won't let you download the
>   scripts from Doug since he gets such little traffic.
> 
>   I have more luck downloading to Macintosh, and then migrating to PC via
>   a Flash drive.
> 
>   Best wishes,
>   Jonathan Cohn
> 
>   On Jul 1, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <[2]kgli...@icloud.com>
>   wrote:
> 
>   My work have just got Skype for Business in the Windows environment.  I
>   hate using skype with Jaws even though I've not used Skype with jaws
>   for years.  I much prefer Skype with Voice Over!
>   Kawal.
> 
> On 30 Jun 2017, at 17:11, Scott Granados
> <[3]scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm running it on the Mac and it's working pretty well.  Luckily,
> where I work they grant the engineers administrative access to their
> own laptops.  Of course most of our company works with virtual
> desktops so I'm glad to have a real machine at all, let alone a Mac
> with root.:)
> 
> On Jun 30, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Jonathan Cohn <[4]jon.c.c...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Ah, thanks for this Scott, my Windows environment has Skype for
> Business but my Macintosh environment is still running with  Lync
> and I get errors on the Macintosh side overtime time I try to change
> the list of contacts. It appears I need to get IT to upgrade my
> Lync. Though they are still dragging their feet on upgrades to
> Sierra.
> Best wishes,
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> On Jun 29, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Scott Granados
> <[5]scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Skype for business, at least on the Mac is accessible.  I think
> it's gotomeeting that uses Skype for business as a valid data
> source.  I know I had a meeting invite the other day, clicked on the
> link and the Skype for business application started itself and
> connected me to the meeting.  The controls on the Skype for business
> AKA MS Link are also pretty accessible.  Not sure if that helps at
> all but that might be a good solution to the video problem if Skype
> for business / link is supported.
> 
> On Jun 28, 2017, at 10:56 PM, Donna Goodin <[6]doniado...@me.com>
> wrote:
> Hi John,
> I do have a dial-in number, so that will have to do, I suppose.
> It's unfortunate, b/c they wanted a video call.  I also have a test
> link.  I've spent some time trying to access it from MY PC, but no
> joy.  So no need for you to spend your time tomorrow trying to
> connect, but thank you very much for the offer.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
> On Jun 28, 2017, at 8:34 PM, Jonathan Cohn <[7]jon.c.c...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Donna,
> While the web page is not very accessible, Go To Meeting always has
> the option for doing call in to the meeting. I believe I have to Go
> To Meetings tomorrow, so I could try to connect via Mac and/or
> Windows if you like for the second meeting. I believe most screen
> sharing services for web meetings are inaccessible for the blind.
> Microsoft Lync now re-branded as Skype for Business could work with
> PowerPoint and JAWS though I think I had to jigger things a bit to
> have the slides automatically read.
> The only alternative I can see is requesting any presentation
> materials in advance.
> Best wishes,
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> On Jun 28, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Donna Goodin 

Re: Skype for business

[Doug Lee]

Which version are you calling .9? Trying to figure out if you prefer the key 
sequences in the newer scripts, or the Ctrl+Shift commands in
the older scripts, or if you are saying there was a change in actual SFB 
keystrokes not related to my scripts. I changed from Ctrl+Shift
commands to sequences because of keystroke collisions. I'm starting to do that 
a lot nowadays in light of the increasing number of apps that
self-update without asking, add and change keystrokes whenever they like, etc.

On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 10:14:02PM -0400, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
   Make sure to get the Doug Lee Scripts at [1]lee.org I personally prefer
   the keystrokes from the .9 version.

   Also note, some Windows firewall systems won't let you download the
   scripts from Doug since he gets such little traffic.

   I have more luck downloading to Macintosh, and then migrating to PC via
   a Flash drive.

   Best wishes,
   Jonathan Cohn

   On Jul 1, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <[2]kgli...@icloud.com>
   wrote:

   My work have just got Skype for Business in the Windows environment.  I
   hate using skype with Jaws even though I've not used Skype with jaws
   for years.  I much prefer Skype with Voice Over!
   Kawal.

 On 30 Jun 2017, at 17:11, Scott Granados
 <[3]scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
 I'm running it on the Mac and it's working pretty well.  Luckily,
 where I work they grant the engineers administrative access to their
 own laptops.  Of course most of our company works with virtual
 desktops so I'm glad to have a real machine at all, let alone a Mac
 with root.:)

 On Jun 30, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Jonathan Cohn <[4]jon.c.c...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 Ah, thanks for this Scott, my Windows environment has Skype for
 Business but my Macintosh environment is still running with  Lync
 and I get errors on the Macintosh side overtime time I try to change
 the list of contacts. It appears I need to get IT to upgrade my
 Lync. Though they are still dragging their feet on upgrades to
 Sierra.
 Best wishes,
 Jonathan Cohn

 On Jun 29, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Scott Granados
 <[5]scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
 The Skype for business, at least on the Mac is accessible.  I think
 it's gotomeeting that uses Skype for business as a valid data
 source.  I know I had a meeting invite the other day, clicked on the
 link and the Skype for business application started itself and
 connected me to the meeting.  The controls on the Skype for business
 AKA MS Link are also pretty accessible.  Not sure if that helps at
 all but that might be a good solution to the video problem if Skype
 for business / link is supported.

 On Jun 28, 2017, at 10:56 PM, Donna Goodin <[6]doniado...@me.com>
 wrote:
 Hi John,
 I do have a dial-in number, so that will have to do, I suppose.
 It's unfortunate, b/c they wanted a video call.  I also have a test
 link.  I've spent some time trying to access it from MY PC, but no
 joy.  So no need for you to spend your time tomorrow trying to
 connect, but thank you very much for the offer.
 Best,
 Donna

 On Jun 28, 2017, at 8:34 PM, Jonathan Cohn <[7]jon.c.c...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 Donna,
 While the web page is not very accessible, Go To Meeting always has
 the option for doing call in to the meeting. I believe I have to Go
 To Meetings tomorrow, so I could try to connect via Mac and/or
 Windows if you like for the second meeting. I believe most screen
 sharing services for web meetings are inaccessible for the blind.
 Microsoft Lync now re-branded as Skype for Business could work with
 PowerPoint and JAWS though I think I had to jigger things a bit to
 have the slides automatically read.
 The only alternative I can see is requesting any presentation
 materials in advance.
 Best wishes,
 Jonathan Cohn

 On Jun 28, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Donna Goodin <[8]doniado...@me.com>
 wrote:
 thanks, David.
 Cheers,
 Donna

 On Jun 28, 2017, at 6:00 PM, David Chittenden
 <[9]dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
 No, Go To Meeting is not accessible.
 Kind regards,
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: [10]dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +61 488 988 936
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 29/06/2017, at 04:57, Donna Goodin <[11]doniado...@me.com> wrote:
 Hi all,
 Can anyone tell me if Go to Meeting is accessible either on the Mac
 or on Windows?  I'm trying to connect to a test session on my Mac
 and not having any luck.
 TIA,
 Donna
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Re: Skype for business

[Jonathan Cohn]

Make sure to get the Doug Lee Scripts at lee.org I personally prefer the 
keystrokes from the .9 version.

Also note, some Windows firewall systems won't let you download the scripts 
from Doug since he gets such little traffic.

I have more luck downloading to Macintosh, and then migrating to PC via a Flash 
drive.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jul 1, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> My work have just got Skype for Business in the Windows environment.  I hate 
> using skype with Jaws even though I've not used Skype with jaws for years.  I 
> much prefer Skype with Voice Over!
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 30 Jun 2017, at 17:11, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m running it on the Mac and it’s working pretty well.  Luckily, where I 
>> work they grant the engineers administrative access to their own laptops.  
>> Of course most of our company works with virtual desktops so I’m glad to 
>> have a real machine at all, let alone a Mac with root.:)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ah, thanks for this Scott, my Windows environment has Skype for Business 
>>> but my Macintosh environment is still running with  Lync and I get errors 
>>> on the Macintosh side overtime time I try to change the list of contacts. 
>>> It appears I need to get IT to upgrade my Lync. Though they are still 
>>> dragging their feet on upgrades to Sierra. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 29, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Scott Granados  
 wrote:
 
 The Skype for business, at least on the Mac is accessible.  I think it’s 
 gotomeeting that uses Skype for business as a valid data source.  I know I 
 had a meeting invite the other day, clicked on the link and the Skype for 
 business application started itself and connected me to the meeting.  The 
 controls on the Skype for business AKA MS Link are also pretty accessible. 
  Not sure if that helps at all but that might be a good solution to the 
 video problem if Skype for business / link is supported.
 
 
> On Jun 28, 2017, at 10:56 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> I do have a dial-in number, so that will have to do, I suppose.  It's 
> unfortunate, b/c they wanted a video call.  I also have a test link.  
> I've spent some time trying to access it from MY PC, but no joy.  So no 
> need for you to spend your time tomorrow trying to connect, but thank you 
> very much for the offer.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 8:34 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> Donna,
>> 
>> While the web page is not very accessible, Go To Meeting always has the 
>> option for doing call in to the meeting. I believe I have to Go To 
>> Meetings tomorrow, so I could try to connect via Mac and/or Windows if 
>> you like for the second meeting. I believe most screen sharing services 
>> for web meetings are inaccessible for the blind. Microsoft Lync now 
>> re-branded as Skype for Business could work with PowerPoint and JAWS 
>> though I think I had to jigger things a bit to have the slides 
>> automatically read. 
>> 
>> The only alternative I can see is requesting any presentation materials 
>> in advance.
>> 
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> thanks, David.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Jun 28, 2017, at 6:00 PM, David Chittenden  
 wrote:
 
 No, Go To Meeting is not accessible.
 
 Kind regards,
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +61 488 988 936
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On 29/06/2017, at 04:57, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Can anyone tell me if Go to Meeting is accessible either on the Mac 
> or on Windows?  I'm trying to connect to a test session on my Mac and 
> not having any luck.
> TIA,
> Donna
> 
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Re: Skype for business

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

My work have just got Skype for Business in the Windows environment.  I hate 
using skype with Jaws even though I've not used Skype with jaws for years.  I 
much prefer Skype with Voice Over!

Kawal.
> On 30 Jun 2017, at 17:11, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> I’m running it on the Mac and it’s working pretty well.  Luckily, where I 
> work they grant the engineers administrative access to their own laptops.  Of 
> course most of our company works with virtual desktops so I’m glad to have a 
> real machine at all, let alone a Mac with root.:)
> 
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> Ah, thanks for this Scott, my Windows environment has Skype for Business but 
>> my Macintosh environment is still running with  Lync and I get errors on the 
>> Macintosh side overtime time I try to change the list of contacts. It 
>> appears I need to get IT to upgrade my Lync. Though they are still dragging 
>> their feet on upgrades to Sierra. 
>> 
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Scott Granados  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Skype for business, at least on the Mac is accessible.  I think it’s 
>>> gotomeeting that uses Skype for business as a valid data source.  I know I 
>>> had a meeting invite the other day, clicked on the link and the Skype for 
>>> business application started itself and connected me to the meeting.  The 
>>> controls on the Skype for business AKA MS Link are also pretty accessible.  
>>> Not sure if that helps at all but that might be a good solution to the 
>>> video problem if Skype for business / link is supported.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 28, 2017, at 10:56 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I do have a dial-in number, so that will have to do, I suppose.  It's 
 unfortunate, b/c they wanted a video call.  I also have a test link.  I've 
 spent some time trying to access it from MY PC, but no joy.  So no need 
 for you to spend your time tomorrow trying to connect, but thank you very 
 much for the offer.
 Best,
 Donna
 
> On Jun 28, 2017, at 8:34 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
> 
> While the web page is not very accessible, Go To Meeting always has the 
> option for doing call in to the meeting. I believe I have to Go To 
> Meetings tomorrow, so I could try to connect via Mac and/or Windows if 
> you like for the second meeting. I believe most screen sharing services 
> for web meetings are inaccessible for the blind. Microsoft Lync now 
> re-branded as Skype for Business could work with PowerPoint and JAWS 
> though I think I had to jigger things a bit to have the slides 
> automatically read. 
> 
> The only alternative I can see is requesting any presentation materials 
> in advance.
> 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> thanks, David.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 6:00 PM, David Chittenden  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, Go To Meeting is not accessible.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 29/06/2017, at 04:57, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Can anyone tell me if Go to Meeting is accessible either on the Mac or 
 on Windows?  I'm trying to connect to a test session on my Mac and not 
 having any luck.
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: Skype for business

[Scott Granados]

I’m running it on the Mac and it’s working pretty well.  Luckily, where I work 
they grant the engineers administrative access to their own laptops.  Of course 
most of our company works with virtual desktops so I’m glad to have a real 
machine at all, let alone a Mac with root.:)


> On Jun 30, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Ah, thanks for this Scott, my Windows environment has Skype for Business but 
> my Macintosh environment is still running with  Lync and I get errors on the 
> Macintosh side overtime time I try to change the list of contacts. It appears 
> I need to get IT to upgrade my Lync. Though they are still dragging their 
> feet on upgrades to Sierra. 
> 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Scott Granados > > wrote:
>> 
>> The Skype for business, at least on the Mac is accessible.  I think it’s 
>> gotomeeting that uses Skype for business as a valid data source.  I know I 
>> had a meeting invite the other day, clicked on the link and the Skype for 
>> business application started itself and connected me to the meeting.  The 
>> controls on the Skype for business AKA MS Link are also pretty accessible.  
>> Not sure if that helps at all but that might be a good solution to the video 
>> problem if Skype for business / link is supported.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 10:56 PM, Donna Goodin >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi John,
>>> 
>>> I do have a dial-in number, so that will have to do, I suppose.  It's 
>>> unfortunate, b/c they wanted a video call.  I also have a test link.  I've 
>>> spent some time trying to access it from MY PC, but no joy.  So no need for 
>>> you to spend your time tomorrow trying to connect, but thank you very much 
>>> for the offer.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Jun 28, 2017, at 8:34 PM, Jonathan Cohn > wrote:
 
 Donna,
 
 While the web page is not very accessible, Go To Meeting always has the 
 option for doing call in to the meeting. I believe I have to Go To 
 Meetings tomorrow, so I could try to connect via Mac and/or Windows if you 
 like for the second meeting. I believe most screen sharing services for 
 web meetings are inaccessible for the blind. Microsoft Lync now re-branded 
 as Skype for Business could work with PowerPoint and JAWS though I think I 
 had to jigger things a bit to have the slides automatically read. 
 
 The only alternative I can see is requesting any presentation materials in 
 advance.
 
 
Best wishes,
 
 Jonathan Cohn
 
 
 
> On Jun 28, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
> thanks, David.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 6:00 PM, David Chittenden > > wrote:
>> 
>> No, Go To Meeting is not accessible.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 29/06/2017, at 04:57, Donna Goodin >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Can anyone tell me if Go to Meeting is accessible either on the Mac or 
>>> on Windows?  I'm trying to connect to a test session on my Mac and not 
>>> having any luck.
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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