Re: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur

2020-06-26 Thread 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
Weird, I can barely hear mine, although to be fair it is elevated on my desk 
and behind an iMac. I have set the PC speaker to its loudest volume by raising 
it as far as it will go with nothing connected to the headphone socket and in 
Sound preferences. But it’s really not all that loud, at least for me, and my 
2012 Mac Mini (now silent and running Linux) was certainly distinct enough to 
be heard, although with some effort. Both my Minis are servers so it’s not a 
big deal, but it’s certainly nice to have them chime at boot.

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Re: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur

2020-06-26 Thread Brad Snyder 
I have a 2018 Mac mini, and the chime sound is loud and clear.  Much louder 
than on my old 2012 mini.  The internal speaker on the new model is in general 
much more easily heard than on the older unit.

- Brad -


On Jun 26, 2020, at 05:29, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Ditto (Mac Mini 2018). Too damned quiet.

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RE: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur

2020-06-26 Thread Simon A Fogarty 
Yeah by default it’s not loud,

But for some reason it jumped up in volume and surprised the hell out of me.

From: 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Friday, 26 June 2020 1:56 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur

Well, I have a late 2019 MacBook Pro, and it’s not loud at all here.
Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com<mailto:d.pra...@me.com>
Https://devinprater.github.io


On Jun 25, 2020, at 5:06 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi devon,

Trust me,

I can get pretty bloody loud on a new mac book air

I set one up a couple of weeks ago for a staff member at work,

I wanted to wipe it completely and start the image again from scratch and a 
couple of times the volume went up to higher than normal and it was very clear 
and easy to hear 4 offices away.

And that was a new 2020 13” mac book air.

From: 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Friday, 26 June 2020 1:23 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur

I wonder if it’ll sound the same? Right now it’s… a little quiet and 
fuzzy-sounding, like it was recorded and transcoded to MP3 several times.
Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com<mailto:d.pra...@me.com>
Https://devinprater.github.io<https://devinprater.github.io/>



On Jun 25, 2020, at 3:59 AM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

You can get the start up chime back now if you use the correct command

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Wednesday, 24 June 2020 5:15 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur

True.  The start-up chime is iconic.  I remember my old Apple IIc had its own 
chime sound.  I was totally dismayed when Apple did away with it on the 2016 
MBPs.
I too have restored the chime on my 2019 MBP 13 and my new mini.
Wish I could get it on my iPhone/iPad.  That would be awesome.

- Brad -

On Jun 23, 2020, at 23:29, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi Brad,

Thanks for this info.  The Startup Chime is classic in my opinion and pretty 
well necessary for us blind users.  I did do the Terminal thing in Catalina on 
my 2017 MBP and it worked like a charm.  Putting it into System Prefs is just 
what the Doctor ordered.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 23, 2020, at 7:38 PM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur
Mike Peterson<https://appleinsider.com/editor/Mike+Peterson>
[article thumbnail]
Apple is officially bringing back the Mac startup chime with macOS Big Sur, 
four years after removing it in a previous version of the operating system.
The classic Mac sound was removed from Apple's lineup of computers with the 
introduction of the 2016 MacBook Pros with Touch 
Bar<https://appleinsider.com/inside/2016-macbook-pros-with-touch-bar>. Ever 
since then, macOS<https://appleinsider.com/inside/macos> has been silent on 
startup.
That changes in the first macOS Big 
Sur<https://appleinsider.com/inside/macos-big-sur>beta. AppleInsider confirmed 
the chime's reintroduction on a 2018 Mac 
mini<https://appleinsider.com/inside/mac-mini> and a 2016 15-inch MacBook 
Pro<https://appleinsider.com/inside/macbook-pro>.
Based on social media posts from developers running the first beta, it looks 
like the startup chime is widely available on other models, too. It appears 
that users can toggle the sound on and off, since there's now a new "Play sound 
on startup" option in System Preferences.
Apple first teased the chime's return during its WWDC 2020 keynote. While it 
didn't actually confirm the fact, Apple's macOS Big Sur features page does 
state that "system sounds are all-new and even more pleasing to the ear," and 
were created using snippets of the originals.
During Monday's WWDC keynote, Apple VP of Human Interface Design Alan Dye said 
that the new sounds are "familiar to the Mac, but remastered and more refined."
Although a software update in 2016 removed the startup chime, a later update to 
macOS Catalina actually added them under-the-hood — though it required a 
Terminal 
command<https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/02/22/how-to-turn-your-mac-startup-chime-back-on>
 to actually enable them.
AppleInsider has affiliate partnerships and may earn commission on products 
purchased through affiliate links. These par

Re: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur

2020-06-26 Thread 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
Ditto (Mac Mini 2018). Too damned quiet.

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Re: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur

2020-06-25 Thread 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
Well, I have a late 2019 MacBook Pro, and it’s not loud at all here.
Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com
Https://devinprater.github.io

> On Jun 25, 2020, at 5:06 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi devon,
>  
> Trust me,
>  
> I can get pretty bloody loud on a new mac book air
>  
> I set one up a couple of weeks ago for a staff member at work,
>  
> I wanted to wipe it completely and start the image again from scratch and a 
> couple of times the volume went up to higher than normal and it was very 
> clear and easy to hear 4 offices away.
>  
> And that was a new 2020 13” mac book air.
>  
> From: 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Friday, 26 June 2020 1:23 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur
>  
> I wonder if it’ll sound the same? Right now it’s… a little quiet and 
> fuzzy-sounding, like it was recorded and transcoded to MP3 several times.
> Devin Prater
> d.pra...@me.com <mailto:d.pra...@me.com>
> Https://devinprater.github.io <https://devinprater.github.io/>
> 
> 
> On Jun 25, 2020, at 3:59 AM, Simon A Fogarty  <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>  
> You can get the start up chime back now if you use the correct command
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad Snyder
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 June 2020 5:15 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur
>  
> True.  The start-up chime is iconic.  I remember my old Apple IIc had its own 
> chime sound.  I was totally dismayed when Apple did away with it on the 2016 
> MBPs.
> I too have restored the chime on my 2019 MBP 13 and my new mini.
> Wish I could get it on my iPhone/iPad.  That would be awesome.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
>  
> On Jun 23, 2020, at 23:29, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> Hi Brad,
>  
> Thanks for this info.  The Startup Chime is classic in my opinion and pretty 
> well necessary for us blind users.  I did do the Terminal thing in Catalina 
> on my 2017 MBP and it worked like a charm.  Putting it into System Prefs is 
> just what the Doctor ordered.
>  
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On Jun 23, 2020, at 7:38 PM, Brad Snyder  <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>  
> The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur
> Mike Peterson <https://appleinsider.com/editor/Mike+Peterson>
> 
> Apple is officially bringing back the Mac startup chime with macOS Big Sur, 
> four years after removing it in a previous version of the operating system.
> The classic Mac sound was removed from Apple's lineup of computers with the 
> introduction of the 2016 MacBook Pros with Touch Bar 
> <https://appleinsider.com/inside/2016-macbook-pros-with-touch-bar>. Ever 
> since then, macOS <https://appleinsider.com/inside/macos> has been silent on 
> startup. 
> That changes in the first macOS Big Sur 
> <https://appleinsider.com/inside/macos-big-sur>beta. AppleInsider confirmed 
> the chime's reintroduction on a 2018 Mac mini 
> <https://appleinsider.com/inside/mac-mini> and a 2016 15-inch MacBook Pro 
> <https://appleinsider.com/inside/macbook-pro>.
> Based on social media posts from developers running the first beta, it looks 
> like the startup chime is widely available on other models, too. It appears 
> that users can toggle the sound on and off, since there's now a new "Play 
> sound on startup" option in System Preferences.
> Apple first teased the chime's return during its WWDC 2020 keynote. While it 
> didn't actually confirm the fact, Apple's macOS Big Sur features page does 
> state that "system sounds are all-new and even more pleasing to the ear," and 
> were created using snippets of the originals.
> During Monday's WWDC keynote, Apple VP of Human Interface Design Alan Dye 
> said that the new sounds are "familiar to the Mac, but remastered and more 
> refined."
> Although a software update in 2016 removed the startup chime, a later update 
> to macOS Catalina actually added them under-the-hood — though it required a 
> Terminal command 
> <https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/02/22/how-to-turn-your-mac-startup-chime-back-on>
>  to actually enable them.
> AppleInsider has affiliate partnerships and may earn c

RE: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur

2020-06-25 Thread Simon A Fogarty 
Hi devon,

Trust me,

I can get pretty bloody loud on a new mac book air

I set one up a couple of weeks ago for a staff member at work,

I wanted to wipe it completely and start the image again from scratch and a 
couple of times the volume went up to higher than normal and it was very clear 
and easy to hear 4 offices away.

And that was a new 2020 13” mac book air.

From: 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Friday, 26 June 2020 1:23 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur

I wonder if it’ll sound the same? Right now it’s… a little quiet and 
fuzzy-sounding, like it was recorded and transcoded to MP3 several times.
Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com<mailto:d.pra...@me.com>
Https://devinprater.github.io


On Jun 25, 2020, at 3:59 AM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

You can get the start up chime back now if you use the correct command

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Wednesday, 24 June 2020 5:15 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur

True.  The start-up chime is iconic.  I remember my old Apple IIc had its own 
chime sound.  I was totally dismayed when Apple did away with it on the 2016 
MBPs.
I too have restored the chime on my 2019 MBP 13 and my new mini.
Wish I could get it on my iPhone/iPad.  That would be awesome.

- Brad -

On Jun 23, 2020, at 23:29, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi Brad,

Thanks for this info.  The Startup Chime is classic in my opinion and pretty 
well necessary for us blind users.  I did do the Terminal thing in Catalina on 
my 2017 MBP and it worked like a charm.  Putting it into System Prefs is just 
what the Doctor ordered.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 23, 2020, at 7:38 PM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur
Mike Peterson<https://appleinsider.com/editor/Mike+Peterson>
[article thumbnail]
Apple is officially bringing back the Mac startup chime with macOS Big Sur, 
four years after removing it in a previous version of the operating system.
The classic Mac sound was removed from Apple's lineup of computers with the 
introduction of the 2016 MacBook Pros with Touch 
Bar<https://appleinsider.com/inside/2016-macbook-pros-with-touch-bar>. Ever 
since then, macOS<https://appleinsider.com/inside/macos> has been silent on 
startup.
That changes in the first macOS Big 
Sur<https://appleinsider.com/inside/macos-big-sur>beta. AppleInsider confirmed 
the chime's reintroduction on a 2018 Mac 
mini<https://appleinsider.com/inside/mac-mini> and a 2016 15-inch MacBook 
Pro<https://appleinsider.com/inside/macbook-pro>.
Based on social media posts from developers running the first beta, it looks 
like the startup chime is widely available on other models, too. It appears 
that users can toggle the sound on and off, since there's now a new "Play sound 
on startup" option in System Preferences.
Apple first teased the chime's return during its WWDC 2020 keynote. While it 
didn't actually confirm the fact, Apple's macOS Big Sur features page does 
state that "system sounds are all-new and even more pleasing to the ear," and 
were created using snippets of the originals.
During Monday's WWDC keynote, Apple VP of Human Interface Design Alan Dye said 
that the new sounds are "familiar to the Mac, but remastered and more refined."
Although a software update in 2016 removed the startup chime, a later update to 
macOS Catalina actually added them under-the-hood — though it required a 
Terminal 
command<https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/02/22/how-to-turn-your-mac-startup-chime-back-on>
 to actually enable them.
AppleInsider has affiliate partnerships and may earn commission on products 
purchased through affiliate links. These partnerships do not influence our 
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Re: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur

2020-06-25 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn 


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> On Jun 25, 2020, at 9:24 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I wonder if it’ll sound the same? Right now it’s… a little quiet and 
> fuzzy-sounding, like it was recorded and transcoded to MP3 several times.
> Devin Prater
> d.pra...@me.com
> Https://devinprater.github.io
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2020, at 3:59 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> You can get the start up chime back now if you use the correct command
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Brad Snyder
>> Sent: Wednesday, 24 June 2020 5:15 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur
>>  
>> True.  The start-up chime is iconic.  I remember my old Apple IIc had its 
>> own chime sound.  I was totally dismayed when Apple did away with it on the 
>> 2016 MBPs.
>> I too have restored the chime on my 2019 MBP 13 and my new mini.
>> Wish I could get it on my iPhone/iPad.  That would be awesome.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>>  
>> On Jun 23, 2020, at 23:29, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Brad,
>>  
>> Thanks for this info.  The Startup Chime is classic in my opinion and pretty 
>> well necessary for us blind users.  I did do the Terminal thing in Catalina 
>> on my 2017 MBP and it worked like a charm.  Putting it into System Prefs is 
>> just what the Doctor ordered.
>>  
>> Later…
>>  
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>  
>> On Jun 23, 2020, at 7:38 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>  
>> The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur
>> Mike Peterson
>> 
>> Apple is officially bringing back the Mac startup chime with macOS Big Sur, 
>> four years after removing it in a previous version of the operating system.
>> The classic Mac sound was removed from Apple's lineup of computers with the 
>> introduction of the 2016 MacBook Pros with Touch Bar. Ever since then, macOS 
>> has been silent on startup. 
>> That changes in the first macOS Big Surbeta. AppleInsider confirmed the 
>> chime's reintroduction on a 2018 Mac mini and a 2016 15-inch MacBook Pro.
>> Based on social media posts from developers running the first beta, it looks 
>> like the startup chime is widely available on other models, too. It appears 
>> that users can toggle the sound on and off, since there's now a new "Play 
>> sound on startup" option in System Preferences.
>> Apple first teased the chime's return during its WWDC 2020 keynote. While it 
>> didn't actually confirm the fact, Apple's macOS Big Sur features page does 
>> state that "system sounds are all-new and even more pleasing to the ear," 
>> and were created using snippets of the originals.
>> During Monday's WWDC keynote, Apple VP of Human Interface Design Alan Dye 
>> said that the new sounds are "familiar to the Mac, but remastered and more 
>> refined."
>> Although a software update in 2016 removed the startup chime, a later update 
>> to macOS Catalina actually added them under-the-hood — though it required a 
>> Terminal command to actually enable them.
>> AppleInsider has affiliate partnerships and may earn commission on products 
>> purchased through affiliate links. These partnerships do not influence our 
>> editorial content.
>>  
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Re: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur

2020-06-25 Thread 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
I wonder if it’ll sound the same? Right now it’s… a little quiet and 
fuzzy-sounding, like it was recorded and transcoded to MP3 several times.
Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com
Https://devinprater.github.io

> On Jun 25, 2020, at 3:59 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> You can get the start up chime back now if you use the correct command
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad Snyder
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 June 2020 5:15 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur
>  
> True.  The start-up chime is iconic.  I remember my old Apple IIc had its own 
> chime sound.  I was totally dismayed when Apple did away with it on the 2016 
> MBPs.
> I too have restored the chime on my 2019 MBP 13 and my new mini.
> Wish I could get it on my iPhone/iPad.  That would be awesome.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
>  
> On Jun 23, 2020, at 23:29, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> Hi Brad,
>  
> Thanks for this info.  The Startup Chime is classic in my opinion and pretty 
> well necessary for us blind users.  I did do the Terminal thing in Catalina 
> on my 2017 MBP and it worked like a charm.  Putting it into System Prefs is 
> just what the Doctor ordered.
>  
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On Jun 23, 2020, at 7:38 PM, Brad Snyder  <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>  
> The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur
> Mike Peterson <https://appleinsider.com/editor/Mike+Peterson>
> 
> Apple is officially bringing back the Mac startup chime with macOS Big Sur, 
> four years after removing it in a previous version of the operating system.
> The classic Mac sound was removed from Apple's lineup of computers with the 
> introduction of the 2016 MacBook Pros with Touch Bar 
> <https://appleinsider.com/inside/2016-macbook-pros-with-touch-bar>. Ever 
> since then, macOS <https://appleinsider.com/inside/macos> has been silent on 
> startup. 
> That changes in the first macOS Big Sur 
> <https://appleinsider.com/inside/macos-big-sur>beta. AppleInsider confirmed 
> the chime's reintroduction on a 2018 Mac mini 
> <https://appleinsider.com/inside/mac-mini> and a 2016 15-inch MacBook Pro 
> <https://appleinsider.com/inside/macbook-pro>.
> Based on social media posts from developers running the first beta, it looks 
> like the startup chime is widely available on other models, too. It appears 
> that users can toggle the sound on and off, since there's now a new "Play 
> sound on startup" option in System Preferences.
> Apple first teased the chime's return during its WWDC 2020 keynote. While it 
> didn't actually confirm the fact, Apple's macOS Big Sur features page does 
> state that "system sounds are all-new and even more pleasing to the ear," and 
> were created using snippets of the originals.
> During Monday's WWDC keynote, Apple VP of Human Interface Design Alan Dye 
> said that the new sounds are "familiar to the Mac, but remastered and more 
> refined."
> Although a software update in 2016 removed the startup chime, a later update 
> to macOS Catalina actually added them under-the-hood — though it required a 
> Terminal command 
> <https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/02/22/how-to-turn-your-mac-startup-chime-back-on>
>  to actually enable them.
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RE: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur

2020-06-25 Thread Simon A Fogarty 
You can get the start up chime back now if you use the correct command

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Wednesday, 24 June 2020 5:15 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur

True.  The start-up chime is iconic.  I remember my old Apple IIc had its own 
chime sound.  I was totally dismayed when Apple did away with it on the 2016 
MBPs.
I too have restored the chime on my 2019 MBP 13 and my new mini.
Wish I could get it on my iPhone/iPad.  That would be awesome.

- Brad -

On Jun 23, 2020, at 23:29, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi Brad,

Thanks for this info.  The Startup Chime is classic in my opinion and pretty 
well necessary for us blind users.  I did do the Terminal thing in Catalina on 
my 2017 MBP and it worked like a charm.  Putting it into System Prefs is just 
what the Doctor ordered.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 23, 2020, at 7:38 PM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur
Mike Peterson<https://appleinsider.com/editor/Mike+Peterson>
[article thumbnail]
Apple is officially bringing back the Mac startup chime with macOS Big Sur, 
four years after removing it in a previous version of the operating system.
The classic Mac sound was removed from Apple's lineup of computers with the 
introduction of the 2016 MacBook Pros with Touch 
Bar<https://appleinsider.com/inside/2016-macbook-pros-with-touch-bar>. Ever 
since then, macOS<https://appleinsider.com/inside/macos> has been silent on 
startup.
That changes in the first macOS Big 
Sur<https://appleinsider.com/inside/macos-big-sur>beta. AppleInsider confirmed 
the chime's reintroduction on a 2018 Mac 
mini<https://appleinsider.com/inside/mac-mini> and a 2016 15-inch MacBook 
Pro<https://appleinsider.com/inside/macbook-pro>.
Based on social media posts from developers running the first beta, it looks 
like the startup chime is widely available on other models, too. It appears 
that users can toggle the sound on and off, since there's now a new "Play sound 
on startup" option in System Preferences.
Apple first teased the chime's return during its WWDC 2020 keynote. While it 
didn't actually confirm the fact, Apple's macOS Big Sur features page does 
state that "system sounds are all-new and even more pleasing to the ear," and 
were created using snippets of the originals.
During Monday's WWDC keynote, Apple VP of Human Interface Design Alan Dye said 
that the new sounds are "familiar to the Mac, but remastered and more refined."
Although a software update in 2016 removed the startup chime, a later update to 
macOS Catalina actually added them under-the-hood — though it required a 
Terminal 
command<https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/02/22/how-to-turn-your-mac-startup-chime-back-on>
 to actually enable them.
AppleInsider has affiliate partnerships and may earn commission on products 
purchased through affiliate links. These partnerships do not influence our 
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Re: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur

2020-06-24 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
Yeah! They heard us! 

I used the terminal command to enable the boot chime on my new Mac Mini
a few weeks back, but it's heartening to see this feature get added
where it belongs.

Now, those of us who need it can have it; and thems that hate it can be
rid of it! How cool is that?

Best,

Janina

Brad Snyder writes:
> The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur
> 
> Mike Peterson
> 
> Apple is officially bringing back the Mac startup chime with macOS Big Sur, 
> four years after removing it in a previous version of the operating system.
> 
> The classic Mac sound was removed from Apple's lineup of computers with the 
> introduction of the 2016 MacBook Pros with Touch Bar. Ever since then, macOS 
> has been silent on startup. 
> 
> That changes in the first macOS Big Surbeta. AppleInsider confirmed the 
> chime's reintroduction on a 2018 Mac mini and a 2016 15-inch MacBook Pro.
> 
> Based on social media posts from developers running the first beta, it looks 
> like the startup chime is widely available on other models, too. It appears 
> that users can toggle the sound on and off, since there's now a new "Play 
> sound on startup" option in System Preferences.
> 
> Apple first teased the chime's return during its WWDC 2020 keynote. While it 
> didn't actually confirm the fact, Apple's macOS Big Sur features page does 
> state that "system sounds are all-new and even more pleasing to the ear," and 
> were created using snippets of the originals.
> 
> During Monday's WWDC keynote, Apple VP of Human Interface Design Alan Dye 
> said that the new sounds are "familiar to the Mac, but remastered and more 
> refined."
> 
> Although a software update in 2016 removed the startup chime, a later update 
> to macOS Catalina actually added them under-the-hood — though it required a 
> Terminal command to actually enable them.
> 
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Re: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur

2020-06-23 Thread Karen Lewellen 

Hi all,
Given how many wrote to Apple asking for its return, and I imagine those 
contacts came from a variety of sources, its nice discovering that you 
were heard.

Kare



On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hi Brad,

Thanks for this info.  The Startup Chime is classic in my opinion and pretty 
well necessary for us blind users.  I did do the Terminal thing in Catalina on 
my 2017 MBP and it worked like a charm.  Putting it into System Prefs is just 
what the Doctor ordered.

Later???


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 23, 2020, at 7:38 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur
Mike Peterson 

Apple is officially bringing back the Mac startup chime with macOS Big Sur, 
four years after removing it in a previous version of the operating system.

The classic Mac sound was removed from Apple's lineup of computers with the introduction of 
the 2016 MacBook Pros with Touch Bar 
. Ever since then, 
macOS  has been silent on startup.

That changes in the first macOS Big Sur 
beta. AppleInsider confirmed the chime's 
reintroduction on a 2018 Mac mini  and a 2016 
15-inch MacBook Pro .

Based on social media posts from developers running the first beta, it looks like the 
startup chime is widely available on other models, too. It appears that users can toggle 
the sound on and off, since there's now a new "Play sound on startup" option in 
System Preferences.

Apple first teased the chime's return during its WWDC 2020 keynote. While it didn't 
actually confirm the fact, Apple's macOS Big Sur features page does state that 
"system sounds are all-new and even more pleasing to the ear," and were created 
using snippets of the originals.

During Monday's WWDC keynote, Apple VP of Human Interface Design Alan Dye said that the 
new sounds are "familiar to the Mac, but remastered and more refined."

Although a software update in 2016 removed the startup chime, a later update to macOS 
Catalina actually added them under-the-hood ??? though it required a Terminal command 

 to actually enable them.

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Re: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur

2020-06-23 Thread Brad Snyder 
True.  The start-up chime is iconic.  I remember my old Apple IIc had its own 
chime sound.  I was totally dismayed when Apple did away with it on the 2016 
MBPs.
I too have restored the chime on my 2019 MBP 13 and my new mini.
Wish I could get it on my iPhone/iPad.  That would be awesome.

- Brad -


On Jun 23, 2020, at 23:29, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Brad,

Thanks for this info.  The Startup Chime is classic in my opinion and pretty 
well necessary for us blind users.  I did do the Terminal thing in Catalina on 
my 2017 MBP and it worked like a charm.  Putting it into System Prefs is just 
what the Doctor ordered.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 23, 2020, at 7:38 PM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur
Mike Peterson 

Apple is officially bringing back the Mac startup chime with macOS Big Sur, 
four years after removing it in a previous version of the operating system.

The classic Mac sound was removed from Apple's lineup of computers with the 
introduction of the 2016 MacBook Pros with Touch Bar 
. Ever since 
then, macOS  has been silent on startup. 

That changes in the first macOS Big Sur 
beta. AppleInsider confirmed the 
chime's reintroduction on a 2018 Mac mini 
 and a 2016 15-inch MacBook Pro 
.

Based on social media posts from developers running the first beta, it looks 
like the startup chime is widely available on other models, too. It appears 
that users can toggle the sound on and off, since there's now a new "Play sound 
on startup" option in System Preferences.

Apple first teased the chime's return during its WWDC 2020 keynote. While it 
didn't actually confirm the fact, Apple's macOS Big Sur features page does 
state that "system sounds are all-new and even more pleasing to the ear," and 
were created using snippets of the originals.

During Monday's WWDC keynote, Apple VP of Human Interface Design Alan Dye said 
that the new sounds are "familiar to the Mac, but remastered and more refined."

Although a software update in 2016 removed the startup chime, a later update to 
macOS Catalina actually added them under-the-hood — though it required a 
Terminal command 

 to actually enable them.

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Re: The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur

2020-06-23 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Hi Brad,

Thanks for this info.  The Startup Chime is classic in my opinion and pretty 
well necessary for us blind users.  I did do the Terminal thing in Catalina on 
my 2017 MBP and it worked like a charm.  Putting it into System Prefs is just 
what the Doctor ordered.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 23, 2020, at 7:38 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

The Mac startup chime is making a return in macOS Big Sur
Mike Peterson 

Apple is officially bringing back the Mac startup chime with macOS Big Sur, 
four years after removing it in a previous version of the operating system.

The classic Mac sound was removed from Apple's lineup of computers with the 
introduction of the 2016 MacBook Pros with Touch Bar 
. Ever since 
then, macOS  has been silent on startup. 

That changes in the first macOS Big Sur 
beta. AppleInsider confirmed the 
chime's reintroduction on a 2018 Mac mini 
 and a 2016 15-inch MacBook Pro 
.

Based on social media posts from developers running the first beta, it looks 
like the startup chime is widely available on other models, too. It appears 
that users can toggle the sound on and off, since there's now a new "Play sound 
on startup" option in System Preferences.

Apple first teased the chime's return during its WWDC 2020 keynote. While it 
didn't actually confirm the fact, Apple's macOS Big Sur features page does 
state that "system sounds are all-new and even more pleasing to the ear," and 
were created using snippets of the originals.

During Monday's WWDC keynote, Apple VP of Human Interface Design Alan Dye said 
that the new sounds are "familiar to the Mac, but remastered and more refined."

Although a software update in 2016 removed the startup chime, a later update to 
macOS Catalina actually added them under-the-hood — though it required a 
Terminal command 

 to actually enable them.

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