Re: Unlabelled Buttons in Mail 8.0

2014-10-18 Thread Nicholas Parsons
So do you have any idea what those buttons are?

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Re: Unlabelled Buttons in Mail 8.0

2014-10-18 Thread Alex Hall
Yes, there it is! I interacted with the text, stopped interacting, and hit 
vo-left.

Thanks, I'm glad you find the articles and podcasts useful.
> On Oct 18, 2014, at 2:36 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> Try one more thing. I think I can get it to happen consistently now.
> Interact with the message, then immediately press VO-left arrow, and then 
> press VO-right arrow. Pressing VO-left arrow first to the header area rather 
> than the message text seems to then make the buttons appear.
> If you still don't get the same behaviour I'll try and make a recording or 
> something. Might be useful for you and bug reporting to Apple accessibility.
> By the way, Alex, great work with your excellent coverage and bug reporting 
> for Yosemite, both here and on AppleVis!
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Re: Unlabelled Buttons in Mail 8.0

2014-10-17 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Try one more thing. I think I can get it to happen consistently now.
Interact with the message, then immediately press VO-left arrow, and then press 
VO-right arrow. Pressing VO-left arrow first to the header area rather than the 
message text seems to then make the buttons appear.
If you still don't get the same behaviour I'll try and make a recording or 
something. Might be useful for you and bug reporting to Apple accessibility.
By the way, Alex, great work with your excellent coverage and bug reporting for 
Yosemite, both here and on AppleVis!

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Re: Unlabelled Buttons in Mail 8.0

2014-10-17 Thread Alex Hall
I tried what you said, in a thread and a single message, and still can't 
reproduce this bug. Lag or other random bugs I understand, but I can't imagine 
how only some people can experience part of a user interface and not others. 
I'm not doubting anyone, I just can't imagine how buttons could never appear 
for me, sometimes appear for other,s and always appear for still others.
> On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:07 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Alex,
> 
> It is happening in threaded conversations, though I don't know if that is 
> essential for this behaviour. It's a little flaky. Try pressing VO-right 
> arrow to the text, then VO-left arrow to the header area, then VO-right arrow 
> again and see if you come across the buttons.
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Re: Unlabelled Buttons in Mail 8.0

2014-10-17 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Hi Alex,

It is happening in threaded conversations, though I don't know if that is 
essential for this behaviour. It's a little flaky. Try pressing VO-right arrow 
to the text, then VO-left arrow to the header area, then VO-right arrow again 
and see if you come across the buttons.

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Re: Unlabelled Buttons in Mail 8.0

2014-10-17 Thread Alex Hall
I cannot reproduce this. I see the headers group, which holds the usual items, 
and the text just after it, and that's all. I'm not sure why I don't see what 
you do.
> On Oct 17, 2014, at 5:27 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm using Mail 8.0 on OS X Yosemite in the Classic view. When I open a Mail 
> message as part of a conversation thread and interact with it, there is the 
> header view on the left, then four unlabelled buttons and then the text of 
> the message. Does anyone know what those buttons are? If so, I'll label them.
> 
> Thanks,
> Nic
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