RE: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

2019-08-27 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi,\

This s not true,

 You do not have to update your vm ware fusion everytime a new OS version comes 
out for the mac.


Infact I don't  believe vm ware come out with a new version every year anyway.

They may of course release vm fashion updates for a version
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Tom Moore
Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2019 12:27 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

Hi Dave,
>From what I have experienced is that lately each time there is a new Mac os 
>version that is released they come out with a new Vmware version to go with it.
If you wish to keep your Mac on an older release for a year or two you can get 
by with keeping the old version kicking, but at this point they seem to get 
released together and upgrade together.
This is why you may think there is an annual license when technically there is 
not with this version.
Enterprise versions though are a completely different thing.

Tom


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 3:25 AM
To: 'macvisionaries@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

Hi Dave,

Not that I am aware,

I only ever purchase the software once and if required an update later 

 There isn't or should I say there wasn't an annual licence fee for vm ware 
products in the passed.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2019 4:06 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

Simon,
Good to hear. Am I also hearing that the $79 is an annual license?

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Re: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

2019-08-27 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

Dave,
   Developers like VMware will offer upgrades (updates are free) at a 
lower price. The new macOS will be released in about a month so you 
might want to wait for that and get the latest Fusion then.


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On 8/27/2019 5:44 AM, Dave Carlson wrote:

Tom,
So you’re saying that each time I update my Mac OS, I need to update VMWare 
Fusion, and pay another $79? Or that $49 update price I saw on their web page?

Dave Carlson
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RE: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

2019-08-27 Thread Tom Moore
I can't tell you that this will always happen to you, but this has been the 
case for the last two years for me.
In my case I have been able to use it as a business expense but you may not be 
able to do this.

Tom

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Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:44 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

Tom,
So you’re saying that each time I update my Mac OS, I need to update VMWare 
Fusion, and pay another $79? Or that $49 update price I saw on their web page?

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Re: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

2019-08-27 Thread Dave Carlson
Tom,
So you’re saying that each time I update my Mac OS, I need to update VMWare 
Fusion, and pay another $79? Or that $49 update price I saw on their web page?

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RE: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

2019-08-27 Thread Tom Moore
Hi Dave,
>From what I have experienced is that lately each time there is a new Mac os 
>version that is released they come out with a new Vmware version to go with it.
If you wish to keep your Mac on an older release for a year or two you can get 
by with keeping the old version kicking, but at this point they seem to get 
released together and upgrade together.
This is why you may think there is an annual license when technically there is 
not with this version.
Enterprise versions though are a completely different thing.

Tom


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 3:25 AM
To: 'macvisionaries@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

Hi Dave,

Not that I am aware,

I only ever purchase the software once and if required an update later 

 There isn't or should I say there wasn't an annual licence fee for vm ware 
products in the passed.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2019 4:06 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

Simon,
Good to hear. Am I also hearing that the $79 is an annual license?

Dave Carlson
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RE: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

2019-08-27 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Dave,

Not that I am aware,

I only ever purchase the software once and if required an update later 

 There isn't or should I say there wasn't an annual licence fee for vm ware 
products in the passed.

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Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2019 4:06 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

Simon,
Good to hear. Am I also hearing that the $79 is an annual license?

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Re: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

2019-08-26 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   To start, if you go to the Fusion settings and select the Keyboard 
category, on the Mac Host Keyboard tab, uncheck Mac Host Keyboard.


   Then, when the Windows VM is loaded, disable Voiceover and press 
command g to grab the keyboard.


   Go to full screen with command control f (this is a toggle). Hold 
the command and control keys and press the f key. Do this quickly.


   If you want to switch to the Mac then return to Windows, enable 
Voiceover and then command control to ungrab the keyboard. This is why 
you want to press these keys then f quickly when toggling full screen.


   To get back to Windows, go to the Window menu on the menu bar, 
select your VM and press return. Disable VO and grab the keyboard.


   It took me a while to get this right but if I don't rush, it works. 
Oh and when I am finished with the VM, I toggle full screen off and shut 
down Windows then take the same steps to return to the Mac.


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On 8/26/2019 2:57 PM, lenron brown wrote:

How do I swap between the mac os and windows when running the vm?

On 8/26/19, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  wrote:

 What is it about Fusion that is a nightmare? It does require care to
avoid pressing certain key combinations that could inadvertently throw
you into the Mac environment. It otherwise works well

 By the way, there are many reasons one wants to run Windows on a
Mac. Windows applications that has no Mac equivalent is one reason.

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On 8/26/2019 1:42 AM, Hemachandran Karaha wrote:

I personally find running VM ware fusion a nightmare to run. I would
recommend running Mac on its own.

I don't know about pro edition though.

Take care,
Hem.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On
Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: 26 August 2019 13:53
To: 'macvisionaries@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

The fusion running windows 7 wont die no, It's just the Microsoft support
for things like updating or security patching for the windows version


   On your own machine windows will keep working as is.

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Sent: Monday, 26 August 2019 3:54 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

Dave,
  I'm running Windows 7 with VMware Fusion. I do not expect it will die
come January when MS stops supporting 7. Actually I want to stop using it
before then

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On 8/25/2019 8:45 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:

Simon,
Okay, $80 is less than the price for Pro. The web site says it can handle
up to Windows 10. I have the source for Windows 7. Do you know if Windows
7 will still run on a VMWare session?

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Re: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

2019-08-26 Thread Ibraheem Fakir
Thanks guys!



Mistakes sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2019, at 5:57 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> How do I swap between the mac os and windows when running the vm?
> 
>> On 8/26/19, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
>> wrote:
>>What is it about Fusion that is a nightmare? It does require care to
>> avoid pressing certain key combinations that could inadvertently throw
>> you into the Mac environment. It otherwise works well
>> 
>>By the way, there are many reasons one wants to run Windows on a
>> Mac. Windows applications that has no Mac equivalent is one reason.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>>> On 8/26/2019 1:42 AM, Hemachandran Karaha wrote:
>>> I personally find running VM ware fusion a nightmare to run. I would
>>> recommend running Mac on its own.
>>> 
>>> I don't know about pro edition though.
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> Hem.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On
>>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: 26 August 2019 13:53
>>> To: 'macvisionaries@googlegroups.com' 
>>> Subject: RE: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?
>>> 
>>> The fusion running windows 7 wont die no, It's just the Microsoft support
>>> for things like updating or security patching for the windows version
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  On your own machine windows will keep working as is.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> Sent: Monday, 26 August 2019 3:54 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?
>>> 
>>> Dave,
>>> I'm running Windows 7 with VMware Fusion. I do not expect it will die
>>> come January when MS stops supporting 7. Actually I want to stop using it
>>> before then
>>> 
>>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>>> On 8/25/2019 8:45 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:
>>>> Simon,
>>>> Okay, $80 is less than the price for Pro. The web site says it can handle
>>>> up to Windows 10. I have the source for Windows 7. Do you know if Windows
>>>> 7 will still run on a VMWare session?
>>>> 
>>>> Dave Carlson
>>>> Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

2019-08-26 Thread lenron brown
How do I swap between the mac os and windows when running the vm?

On 8/26/19, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  wrote:
> What is it about Fusion that is a nightmare? It does require care to
> avoid pressing certain key combinations that could inadvertently throw
> you into the Mac environment. It otherwise works well
>
> By the way, there are many reasons one wants to run Windows on a
> Mac. Windows applications that has no Mac equivalent is one reason.
>
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
>
> On 8/26/2019 1:42 AM, Hemachandran Karaha wrote:
>> I personally find running VM ware fusion a nightmare to run. I would
>> recommend running Mac on its own.
>>
>> I don't know about pro edition though.
>>
>> Take care,
>> Hem.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On
>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: 26 August 2019 13:53
>> To: 'macvisionaries@googlegroups.com' 
>> Subject: RE: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?
>>
>> The fusion running windows 7 wont die no, It's just the Microsoft support
>> for things like updating or security patching for the windows version
>>
>>
>>   On your own machine windows will keep working as is.
>>
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>>
>> Dave,
>>  I'm running Windows 7 with VMware Fusion. I do not expect it will die
>> come January when MS stops supporting 7. Actually I want to stop using it
>> before then
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>>> Okay, $80 is less than the price for Pro. The web site says it can handle
>>> up to Windows 10. I have the source for Windows 7. Do you know if Windows
>>> 7 will still run on a VMWare session?
>>>
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Re: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

2019-08-26 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   What is it about Fusion that is a nightmare? It does require care to 
avoid pressing certain key combinations that could inadvertently throw 
you into the Mac environment. It otherwise works well


   By the way, there are many reasons one wants to run Windows on a 
Mac. Windows applications that has no Mac equivalent is one reason.


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On 8/26/2019 1:42 AM, Hemachandran Karaha wrote:

I personally find running VM ware fusion a nightmare to run. I would recommend 
running Mac on its own.

I don't know about pro edition though.

Take care,
Hem.


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Sent: 26 August 2019 13:53
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Subject: RE: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

The fusion running windows 7 wont die no, It's just the Microsoft support for 
things like updating or security patching for the windows version


  On your own machine windows will keep working as is.

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Sent: Monday, 26 August 2019 3:54 PM
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Dave,
 I'm running Windows 7 with VMware Fusion. I do not expect it will die come 
January when MS stops supporting 7. Actually I want to stop using it before then

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Simon,
Okay, $80 is less than the price for Pro. The web site says it can handle up to 
Windows 10. I have the source for Windows 7. Do you know if Windows 7 will 
still run on a VMWare session?

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Re: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

2019-08-26 Thread Dave Carlson
Simon,
Good to hear. Am I also hearing that the $79 is an annual license?

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Re: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

2019-08-26 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I just looked at the new VM dialog  in VMWare 11.1 Professional and there is an 
option to install Windows 3.1, so don’t worry about older OS’s. The only major 
issue I have with VMWare is that caps lock key can not be used as a screen 
reader key unless significant mucking is done on the VM. I wish I could 
dedicate my Dell USB keyboard to only work with my VM’s and be ignored by MacOS 
much like my Braille displays are if I plug them in after the VM is active. 
Also, don’t answer the permissions questions wrong when you first start VMWare. 
I have had cases where because the granularity on the Security systems setting 
page is not specific enough, I have had to reset security settings for an 
entire app or computer in order to get some functionality. This is mostly the 
case with scripting functions where one application is asking to control 
another application, but can occur in other situations too.
Best Wishes,
Jonathan C. Cohn


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> Simon,
> Okay, $80 is less than the price for Pro. The web site says it can handle up 
> to Windows 10. I have the source for Windows 7. Do you know if Windows 7 will 
> still run on a VMWare session?
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RE: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

2019-08-26 Thread Hemachandran Karaha
I personally find running VM ware fusion a nightmare to run. I would recommend 
running Mac on its own.

I don't know about pro edition though.

Take care,
Hem.


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Sent: 26 August 2019 13:53
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Subject: RE: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

The fusion running windows 7 wont die no, It's just the Microsoft support for 
things like updating or security patching for the windows version 


 On your own machine windows will keep working as is.

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Sent: Monday, 26 August 2019 3:54 PM
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Dave,
I'm running Windows 7 with VMware Fusion. I do not expect it will die come 
January when MS stops supporting 7. Actually I want to stop using it before then

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> Okay, $80 is less than the price for Pro. The web site says it can handle up 
> to Windows 10. I have the source for Windows 7. Do you know if Windows 7 will 
> still run on a VMWare session?
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RE: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

2019-08-26 Thread Simon A Fogarty
The fusion running windows 7 wont die no, 
It's just the Microsoft support for things like updating or security patching 
for the windows version 


 On your own machine windows will keep working as is.

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Sent: Monday, 26 August 2019 3:54 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

Dave,
I'm running Windows 7 with VMware Fusion. I do not expect it will die come 
January when MS stops supporting 7. Actually I want to stop using it before then

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> Okay, $80 is less than the price for Pro. The web site says it can handle up 
> to Windows 10. I have the source for Windows 7. Do you know if Windows 7 will 
> still run on a VMWare session?
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RE: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

2019-08-26 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yeah absolutely,

 If it can take windows 10 then it will take windows 7.

I am running 10 enterprise in my vm fusion 10, I've not updated to 11 simply 
because my former employer purchased the vm licence and I resigned from that 
company but didn't to their knowledge give the software licence back to them.

Shame I couldn't keep the mac book pro or mac mini 

You'll be fine but if your that worried then purchase the pro 

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To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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Simon,
Okay, $80 is less than the price for Pro. The web site says it can handle up to 
Windows 10. I have the source for Windows 7. Do you know if Windows 7 will 
still run on a VMWare session?

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Re: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

2019-08-25 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

Dave,
   I'm running Windows 7 with VMware Fusion. I do not expect it will 
die come January when MS stops supporting 7. Actually I want to stop 
using it before then


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Simon,
Okay, $80 is less than the price for Pro. The web site says it can handle up to 
Windows 10. I have the source for Windows 7. Do you know if Windows 7 will 
still run on a VMWare session?

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Re: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

2019-08-25 Thread Dave Carlson
Simon,
Okay, $80 is less than the price for Pro. The web site says it can handle up to 
Windows 10. I have the source for Windows 7. Do you know if Windows 7 will 
still run on a VMWare session?

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RE: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

2019-08-25 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi


I use the standard version of vm ware fusion 10,

 I don't see that pro was needed but it really depends on what you want to do 
with it.
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Hey folks,

Wondering what your recommendations are on getting either VMware fusion pro or 
the standard version. Any pluses to the pro version in terms of accessibility?

Thanks,
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RE: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

2019-08-25 Thread Matthew Dyer
Hi,

I have the standered version and you should be fine.  I find accessibility in 
the standered version to work just fine.

Matthew



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From: Ibraheem Fakir
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 3:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: VMware fusion 11 pro or Home?

Hey folks,

Wondering what your recommendations are on getting either VMware fusion pro or 
the standard version. Any pluses to the pro version in terms of accessibility?

Thanks,
Ibraheem

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