Re: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

No problem. I totaly grock needing to make good choices on a tight
budget. It's a challenge, but it's also possible to be successful.


I faced a not dissimilar situation shortly after becoming an independent
contractor. My employer had been buying my laptops for years. Now, here
I was with the need of a laptop and very little money in the bank.

I found myself a 18 month old laptop via Ebay that lasted me for years.
I did upgrade its memory and it's mini-pci based ethernet device. Doing
this required poking a particular value into the firmware at a
particular address, and doing that required me to pick up a USB 3.5 inch
floppy for the Thinkpad.

I eventually replaced it with a top of the line Thinkpad in 2008 which I
still use.

My Airbook was my next laptop purchase early in 2014. I plan to get a
few moe good years from it, hopefully.

Janina

The wolf writes:
> Hello I will also give this site a look at.
> 
> thank you so much for helping me with all of this
> 
> 
> On 1/11/2018 5:47 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > No, not of my own knowledge, Hank. You'll need to do some web searching.
> > 
> > You might start here, though:
> > https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204990
> > 
> > 
> > Next, you would need to trim that list down from the other end by
> > discovering when the chime disappeared from Apple's firmware.
> > 
> > good luck!
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > The wolf writes:
> > > Hello I payed 200.00 for the mac that I have now
> > > 
> > > is there any perticular mac that I should try to look for in that price
> > > range?
> > > Hank
> > > 
> > > On 1/9/2018 10:24 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > > > I don't know on either of your questions--sorry. I guess Google needs to
> > > > be your friend on these issues.
> > > > 
> > > > I do have a thought ...
> > > > 
> > > > You might want to consider a newer Mac, just not a new one. Price should
> > > > be much less. You could look at the Macs that support running Win 10 and
> > > > look for refurbished, or owner sold models on that list.
> > > > 
> > > > If possible, I'd try to stay above the models that support installing
> > > > directly from an iso image on the Mac drive, as opposed to requiring you
> > > > to create a bootable USB stick. That's got to be much much faster. My
> > > > Airbook is too old for that.
> > > > 
> > > > There might be two benefits to a used Mac that you would lose with a new
> > > > Mac:
> > > > 
> > > > 1.) Physical function keys, instead of the touchbar. Your choice on
> > > > whether that matters to you.
> > > > 
> > > > 2.) The audible chime on boot has apparently disappeared on newer
> > > > Macs. If you're dual booting, working without the chime could be really 
> > > > frustrating, imo.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > For my money the above two considerations make a slightly used Airbook a
> > > > smarter buy, assuming it's in good condition and its former owner wasn't
> > > > a smoker.
> > > > 
> > > > hth
> > > > 
> > > > Janina
> > > > 
> > > > The wolf writes:
> > > > > how anoying I will give this command and see if that fixes evertything
> > > > > 
> > > > > a quick question once I got windows7 loaded even though the mac 
> > > > > doesn't
> > > > > support windows10 is there a way or hack to get it to run?
> > > > > 
> > > > > also am not sure if u can help but would you happen to know if any 
> > > > > good
> > > > > places to get ram for the older macbooks?
> > > > > it has 2 gigs it is seriously slow and want to at least upgrade it to 
> > > > > 4 gigs
> > > > > for now and then when I get more money saved up go to 8 gigs
> > > > > thanks
> > > > > Hank
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 1/9/2018 9:50 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > > > > > I can tell you I've spent the last month struggling with BootCamp. 
> > > > > > It's
> > > > > > very fussy, but also brittle, in my experience, i.e. the Windows
> > > > > > installation process will frequently break, but then eventually 
> > > > > > succeed.
> > > > > > Go figure.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Relevant to your situation I can attest that BootCamp is fussy about
> > > > > > using the tail end of your OS X container. I actually tried to get 
> > > > > > fancy
> > > > > > and put in a Win partition mid disk, then assign the remainder for 
> > > > > > ExFAT
> > > > > > so that it could contain files to share with both OS. Well, BootCamp
> > > > > > refused to cooperate with that.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The only situation that successfully created the BootCamp 
> > > > > > partitionand
> > > > > > launched the Windows install was having the entire disk, all the 
> > > > > > way to
> > > > > > the edge, assigned to OS X. Even free space, uunpartitioned and
> > > > > > unformatted wasn't acceptable.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diskutil from the command line is your friend on this task, imo. 
> > > > > > Note in
> > > > > > the page I pointed you to that a size of 0 means "fill the whole 
> > > > > > disk."
> > > > > > 

Re: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

[The wolf]

Hello I will also give this site a look at.

thank you so much for helping me with all of this


On 1/11/2018 5:47 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

No, not of my own knowledge, Hank. You'll need to do some web searching.

You might start here, though:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204990


Next, you would need to trim that list down from the other end by
discovering when the chime disappeared from Apple's firmware.

good luck!

Janina

The wolf writes:

Hello I payed 200.00 for the mac that I have now

is there any perticular mac that I should try to look for in that price
range?
Hank

On 1/9/2018 10:24 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I don't know on either of your questions--sorry. I guess Google needs to
be your friend on these issues.

I do have a thought ...

You might want to consider a newer Mac, just not a new one. Price should
be much less. You could look at the Macs that support running Win 10 and
look for refurbished, or owner sold models on that list.

If possible, I'd try to stay above the models that support installing
directly from an iso image on the Mac drive, as opposed to requiring you
to create a bootable USB stick. That's got to be much much faster. My
Airbook is too old for that.

There might be two benefits to a used Mac that you would lose with a new
Mac:

1.) Physical function keys, instead of the touchbar. Your choice on
whether that matters to you.

2.) The audible chime on boot has apparently disappeared on newer
Macs. If you're dual booting, working without the chime could be really 
frustrating, imo.


For my money the above two considerations make a slightly used Airbook a
smarter buy, assuming it's in good condition and its former owner wasn't
a smoker.

hth

Janina

The wolf writes:

how anoying I will give this command and see if that fixes evertything

a quick question once I got windows7 loaded even though the mac doesn't
support windows10 is there a way or hack to get it to run?

also am not sure if u can help but would you happen to know if any good
places to get ram for the older macbooks?
it has 2 gigs it is seriously slow and want to at least upgrade it to 4 gigs
for now and then when I get more money saved up go to 8 gigs
thanks
Hank

On 1/9/2018 9:50 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I can tell you I've spent the last month struggling with BootCamp. It's
very fussy, but also brittle, in my experience, i.e. the Windows
installation process will frequently break, but then eventually succeed.
Go figure.


Relevant to your situation I can attest that BootCamp is fussy about
using the tail end of your OS X container. I actually tried to get fancy
and put in a Win partition mid disk, then assign the remainder for ExFAT
so that it could contain files to share with both OS. Well, BootCamp
refused to cooperate with that.

The only situation that successfully created the BootCamp partitionand
launched the Windows install was having the entire disk, all the way to
the edge, assigned to OS X. Even free space, uunpartitioned and
unformatted wasn't acceptable.

diskutil from the command line is your friend on this task, imo. Note in
the page I pointed you to that a size of 0 means "fill the whole disk."
You want to see the entire container assigned to the Mac before running
BootCamp.

Good luck!

Janina

The wolf writes:

Hello will give this a look at

I wish it would tell me what the error is so I can try to google it
is this a known issue? I have'nt touched any of the mac partitions so it
shouldn't be doing this.
thanks
Hank

On 1/9/2018 8:51 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

First Aid should be in the Toolbar of Disk Utility. At least that's
where it is on my 2014 vintage Airbook running High Sierra.

Note there are even more options available from the Terminal command
line, though with far less Voice Over functionality.

If possible ssh in for better screen reader support. I ssh to my Mac
from a Linux shell.

The reason is to run diskutil, which is a command line tool that does
far more than the graphical Disk Utility.

The man page for diskutil is essential, but a challenge to comprehend.
Here's a good web page to get you started:

https://www.MacObserver.com/tips/deep-dive/resize-your-apfs-container/


Note also that it's possible to install Windows without using BootCamp,
but it's not an accessible process. You'll need sighted assistance.
Here's a page on that process which should be the same, even though
you're not installing Win 10. It also helps explain what's going on
under the BootCamp hood

http://fgimian.github.io/blog/2016/03/12/installing-windows-10-on-a-mac-without-bootcamp/

hth

Janina

The wolf writes:

Hello yes I have it and when I selected it I couldn't find a repair button

please bare with me I haven't used a mac in about 3 to 4 years so am trying
to refresh my memory.

thanks

Hank



On 1/9/2018 4:18 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Isn’t there a first aid in disk utility?
You have to 

Re: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Well, I can't explain why, other than to say the very same error I would
get over and over turned up lots of web search results of other people
experiencing the same thing.

I found one posting that said something like: "Failed the first time,
failed the second time, failed the third time, worked the fourth time."

That was about it for me.

The worst part of the entire process is that I discovered I couldn't
leave it alone. Were I to set BootCamp running and walk away to do
something out of my office, e.g. laundry, I would come back and find a
"BootCamp Busy" message on the screen that I couldn't get out of.

Apparently, there's a time out for entering your password at the various
points when BootCamp prompts for a password. If you're too slow
responding to that, BootCamp blows up and you have to start over again.
At least, that's how it worked for me. I found this utterly frustrating.
I hate babysitting computers.

Janina

Simon Fogarty writes:
> This I find interesting as I've not had trouble with bootcamp at any time 
> I've installed it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 January 2018 5:50 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?
> 
> I can tell you I've spent the last month struggling with BootCamp. It's very 
> fussy, but also brittle, in my experience, i.e. the Windows installation 
> process will frequently break, but then eventually succeed.
> Go figure.
> 
> 
> Relevant to your situation I can attest that BootCamp is fussy about using 
> the tail end of your OS X container. I actually tried to get fancy and put in 
> a Win partition mid disk, then assign the remainder for ExFAT so that it 
> could contain files to share with both OS. Well, BootCamp refused to 
> cooperate with that.
> 
> The only situation that successfully created the BootCamp partitionand 
> launched the Windows install was having the entire disk, all the way to the 
> edge, assigned to OS X. Even free space, uunpartitioned and unformatted 
> wasn't acceptable.
> 
> diskutil from the command line is your friend on this task, imo. Note in the 
> page I pointed you to that a size of 0 means "fill the whole disk."
> You want to see the entire container assigned to the Mac before running 
> BootCamp.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Janina
> 
> The wolf writes:
> > Hello will give this a look at
> > 
> > I wish it would tell me what the error is so I can try to google it is 
> > this a known issue? I have'nt touched any of the mac partitions so it 
> > shouldn't be doing this.
> > thanks
> > Hank
> > 
> > On 1/9/2018 8:51 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > > First Aid should be in the Toolbar of Disk Utility. At least that's 
> > > where it is on my 2014 vintage Airbook running High Sierra.
> > > 
> > > Note there are even more options available from the Terminal command 
> > > line, though with far less Voice Over functionality.
> > > 
> > > If possible ssh in for better screen reader support. I ssh to my Mac 
> > > from a Linux shell.
> > > 
> > > The reason is to run diskutil, which is a command line tool that 
> > > does far more than the graphical Disk Utility.
> > > 
> > > The man page for diskutil is essential, but a challenge to comprehend.
> > > Here's a good web page to get you started:
> > > 
> > > https://www.MacObserver.com/tips/deep-dive/resize-your-apfs-containe
> > > r/
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Note also that it's possible to install Windows without using 
> > > BootCamp, but it's not an accessible process. You'll need sighted 
> > > assistance.
> > > Here's a page on that process which should be the same, even though 
> > > you're not installing Win 10. It also helps explain what's going on 
> > > under the BootCamp hood
> > > 
> > > http://fgimian.github.io/blog/2016/03/12/installing-windows-10-on-a-
> > > mac-without-bootcamp/
> > > 
> > > hth
> > > 
> > > Janina
> > > 
> > > The wolf writes:
> > > > Hello yes I have it and when I selected it I couldn't find a 
> > > > repair button
> > > > 
> > > > please bare with me I haven't used a mac in about 3 to 4 years so 
> > > > am trying to refresh my memory.
> > > > 
> > > > thanks
> > > > 
> > > > Hank
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On 1/9/2018 4:18 PM, Ander

Re: Re: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

No, not of my own knowledge, Hank. You'll need to do some web searching.

You might start here, though:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204990


Next, you would need to trim that list down from the other end by
discovering when the chime disappeared from Apple's firmware.

good luck!

Janina

The wolf writes:
> Hello I payed 200.00 for the mac that I have now
> 
> is there any perticular mac that I should try to look for in that price
> range?
> Hank
> 
> On 1/9/2018 10:24 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > I don't know on either of your questions--sorry. I guess Google needs to
> > be your friend on these issues.
> > 
> > I do have a thought ...
> > 
> > You might want to consider a newer Mac, just not a new one. Price should
> > be much less. You could look at the Macs that support running Win 10 and
> > look for refurbished, or owner sold models on that list.
> > 
> > If possible, I'd try to stay above the models that support installing
> > directly from an iso image on the Mac drive, as opposed to requiring you
> > to create a bootable USB stick. That's got to be much much faster. My
> > Airbook is too old for that.
> > 
> > There might be two benefits to a used Mac that you would lose with a new
> > Mac:
> > 
> > 1.) Physical function keys, instead of the touchbar. Your choice on
> > whether that matters to you.
> > 
> > 2.) The audible chime on boot has apparently disappeared on newer
> > Macs. If you're dual booting, working without the chime could be really 
> > frustrating, imo.
> > 
> > 
> > For my money the above two considerations make a slightly used Airbook a
> > smarter buy, assuming it's in good condition and its former owner wasn't
> > a smoker.
> > 
> > hth
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > The wolf writes:
> > > how anoying I will give this command and see if that fixes evertything
> > > 
> > > a quick question once I got windows7 loaded even though the mac doesn't
> > > support windows10 is there a way or hack to get it to run?
> > > 
> > > also am not sure if u can help but would you happen to know if any good
> > > places to get ram for the older macbooks?
> > > it has 2 gigs it is seriously slow and want to at least upgrade it to 4 
> > > gigs
> > > for now and then when I get more money saved up go to 8 gigs
> > > thanks
> > > Hank
> > > 
> > > On 1/9/2018 9:50 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > > > I can tell you I've spent the last month struggling with BootCamp. It's
> > > > very fussy, but also brittle, in my experience, i.e. the Windows
> > > > installation process will frequently break, but then eventually succeed.
> > > > Go figure.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Relevant to your situation I can attest that BootCamp is fussy about
> > > > using the tail end of your OS X container. I actually tried to get fancy
> > > > and put in a Win partition mid disk, then assign the remainder for ExFAT
> > > > so that it could contain files to share with both OS. Well, BootCamp
> > > > refused to cooperate with that.
> > > > 
> > > > The only situation that successfully created the BootCamp partitionand
> > > > launched the Windows install was having the entire disk, all the way to
> > > > the edge, assigned to OS X. Even free space, uunpartitioned and
> > > > unformatted wasn't acceptable.
> > > > 
> > > > diskutil from the command line is your friend on this task, imo. Note in
> > > > the page I pointed you to that a size of 0 means "fill the whole disk."
> > > > You want to see the entire container assigned to the Mac before running
> > > > BootCamp.
> > > > 
> > > > Good luck!
> > > > 
> > > > Janina
> > > > 
> > > > The wolf writes:
> > > > > Hello will give this a look at
> > > > > 
> > > > > I wish it would tell me what the error is so I can try to google it
> > > > > is this a known issue? I have'nt touched any of the mac partitions so 
> > > > > it
> > > > > shouldn't be doing this.
> > > > > thanks
> > > > > Hank
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 1/9/2018 8:51 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > > > > > First Aid should be in the Toolbar of Disk Utility. At least that's
> > > > > > where it is on my 2014 vintage Airbook running High Sierra.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Note there are even more options available from the Terminal command
> > > > > > line, though with far less Voice Over functionality.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If possible ssh in for better screen reader support. I ssh to my Mac
> > > > > > from a Linux shell.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The reason is to run diskutil, which is a command line tool that 
> > > > > > does
> > > > > > far more than the graphical Disk Utility.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The man page for diskutil is essential, but a challenge to 
> > > > > > comprehend.
> > > > > > Here's a good web page to get you started:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > https://www.MacObserver.com/tips/deep-dive/resize-your-apfs-container/
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Note also that it's possible to install Windows without using 
> > > > > > BootCamp,
> > 

RE: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

[Simon Fogarty]

Yes it's under disk utilities then once you have the drives listed shift tab to 
bring up I think it's tool bar, open this and first aid should be the first one 
on the list.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Wednesday, 10 January 2018 12:19 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

Hi!
Isn’t there a first aid in disk utility?
You have to select the disk first and then find the first aid button.
Or is this not working.
Then something seems broken.
/A

> 9 jan. 2018 kl. 23:00 skrev The wolf <hank.smith...@gmail.com>:
> 
> Hello I am back in the mac world I got a macbook that is a 2009 or later 
> addission the mac was orriginally purchased in 2012
> 
> it will not support windows10 but it will support windows7
> 
> it has 2 gigs of ram it will be slow running windows but will be upgrading 
> the ram soon\
> 
> when ever I try to partition boot camp it says partition error it gives me no 
> info on what the error message it it says to try running disk repair there is 
> no disk repair choice in disk utility
> 
> I looked both at disk utility when booted in to osx and I also tried looking 
> in disk utility under recovery no repair choice
> 
> I am running the latest osx high sierra can any one help me out here? I wish 
> I could run windows10 but it says that it isn't supported so am stuck running 
> windows7
> 
> unless any one knows of a work around?
> 
> thanks
> 
> Hank
> 
> 
> 
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RE: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

[Simon Fogarty]

I'd say your pushing it in more than one way,

 Windows 10 32 bit may run on the older 2009 mac book,
 But windows 10 will be a waste of time with only 2 gb ram,
 As for the HD, how large is it?



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of The wolf
Sent: Wednesday, 10 January 2018 11:00 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

Hello I am back in the mac world I got a macbook that is a 2009 or later 
addission the mac was orriginally purchased in 2012

it will not support windows10 but it will support windows7

it has 2 gigs of ram it will be slow running windows but will be upgrading the 
ram soon\

when ever I try to partition boot camp it says partition error it gives me no 
info on what the error message it it says to try running disk repair there is 
no disk repair choice in disk utility

I looked both at disk utility when booted in to osx and I also tried looking in 
disk utility under recovery no repair choice

I am running the latest osx high sierra can any one help me out here? I wish I 
could run windows10 but it says that it isn't supported so am stuck running 
windows7

unless any one knows of a work around?

thanks

Hank



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RE: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

[Simon Fogarty]

This I find interesting as I've not had trouble with bootcamp at any time I've 
installed it.

-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 10 January 2018 5:50 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

I can tell you I've spent the last month struggling with BootCamp. It's very 
fussy, but also brittle, in my experience, i.e. the Windows installation 
process will frequently break, but then eventually succeed.
Go figure.


Relevant to your situation I can attest that BootCamp is fussy about using the 
tail end of your OS X container. I actually tried to get fancy and put in a Win 
partition mid disk, then assign the remainder for ExFAT so that it could 
contain files to share with both OS. Well, BootCamp refused to cooperate with 
that.

The only situation that successfully created the BootCamp partitionand launched 
the Windows install was having the entire disk, all the way to the edge, 
assigned to OS X. Even free space, uunpartitioned and unformatted wasn't 
acceptable.

diskutil from the command line is your friend on this task, imo. Note in the 
page I pointed you to that a size of 0 means "fill the whole disk."
You want to see the entire container assigned to the Mac before running 
BootCamp.

Good luck!

Janina

The wolf writes:
> Hello will give this a look at
> 
> I wish it would tell me what the error is so I can try to google it is 
> this a known issue? I have'nt touched any of the mac partitions so it 
> shouldn't be doing this.
> thanks
> Hank
> 
> On 1/9/2018 8:51 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > First Aid should be in the Toolbar of Disk Utility. At least that's 
> > where it is on my 2014 vintage Airbook running High Sierra.
> > 
> > Note there are even more options available from the Terminal command 
> > line, though with far less Voice Over functionality.
> > 
> > If possible ssh in for better screen reader support. I ssh to my Mac 
> > from a Linux shell.
> > 
> > The reason is to run diskutil, which is a command line tool that 
> > does far more than the graphical Disk Utility.
> > 
> > The man page for diskutil is essential, but a challenge to comprehend.
> > Here's a good web page to get you started:
> > 
> > https://www.MacObserver.com/tips/deep-dive/resize-your-apfs-containe
> > r/
> > 
> > 
> > Note also that it's possible to install Windows without using 
> > BootCamp, but it's not an accessible process. You'll need sighted 
> > assistance.
> > Here's a page on that process which should be the same, even though 
> > you're not installing Win 10. It also helps explain what's going on 
> > under the BootCamp hood
> > 
> > http://fgimian.github.io/blog/2016/03/12/installing-windows-10-on-a-
> > mac-without-bootcamp/
> > 
> > hth
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > The wolf writes:
> > > Hello yes I have it and when I selected it I couldn't find a 
> > > repair button
> > > 
> > > please bare with me I haven't used a mac in about 3 to 4 years so 
> > > am trying to refresh my memory.
> > > 
> > > thanks
> > > 
> > > Hank
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 1/9/2018 4:18 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
> > > > Hi!
> > > > Isn’t there a first aid in disk utility?
> > > > You have to select the disk first and then find the first aid button.
> > > > Or is this not working.
> > > > Then something seems broken.
> > > > /A
> > > > 
> > > > > 9 jan. 2018 kl. 23:00 skrev The wolf <hank.smith...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hello I am back in the mac world I got a macbook that is a 
> > > > > 2009 or later addission the mac was orriginally purchased in 
> > > > > 2012
> > > > > 
> > > > > it will not support windows10 but it will support windows7
> > > > > 
> > > > > it has 2 gigs of ram it will be slow running windows but will 
> > > > > be upgrading the ram soon\
> > > > > 
> > > > > when ever I try to partition boot camp it says partition error 
> > > > > it gives me no info on what the error message it it says to 
> > > > > try running disk repair there is no disk repair choice in disk 
> > > > > utility
> > > > > 
> > > > > I looked both at disk utility when booted in to osx and I also 
> > > > > tried looking in disk utility under recovery no rep

Re: Re: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

[The wolf]

Hello I payed 200.00 for the mac that I have now

is there any perticular mac that I should try to look for in that price 
range?

Hank

On 1/9/2018 10:24 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I don't know on either of your questions--sorry. I guess Google needs to
be your friend on these issues.

I do have a thought ...

You might want to consider a newer Mac, just not a new one. Price should
be much less. You could look at the Macs that support running Win 10 and
look for refurbished, or owner sold models on that list.

If possible, I'd try to stay above the models that support installing
directly from an iso image on the Mac drive, as opposed to requiring you
to create a bootable USB stick. That's got to be much much faster. My
Airbook is too old for that.

There might be two benefits to a used Mac that you would lose with a new
Mac:

1.) Physical function keys, instead of the touchbar. Your choice on
whether that matters to you.

2.) The audible chime on boot has apparently disappeared on newer
Macs. If you're dual booting, working without the chime could be really 
frustrating, imo.


For my money the above two considerations make a slightly used Airbook a
smarter buy, assuming it's in good condition and its former owner wasn't
a smoker.

hth

Janina

The wolf writes:

how anoying I will give this command and see if that fixes evertything

a quick question once I got windows7 loaded even though the mac doesn't
support windows10 is there a way or hack to get it to run?

also am not sure if u can help but would you happen to know if any good
places to get ram for the older macbooks?
it has 2 gigs it is seriously slow and want to at least upgrade it to 4 gigs
for now and then when I get more money saved up go to 8 gigs
thanks
Hank

On 1/9/2018 9:50 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I can tell you I've spent the last month struggling with BootCamp. It's
very fussy, but also brittle, in my experience, i.e. the Windows
installation process will frequently break, but then eventually succeed.
Go figure.


Relevant to your situation I can attest that BootCamp is fussy about
using the tail end of your OS X container. I actually tried to get fancy
and put in a Win partition mid disk, then assign the remainder for ExFAT
so that it could contain files to share with both OS. Well, BootCamp
refused to cooperate with that.

The only situation that successfully created the BootCamp partitionand
launched the Windows install was having the entire disk, all the way to
the edge, assigned to OS X. Even free space, uunpartitioned and
unformatted wasn't acceptable.

diskutil from the command line is your friend on this task, imo. Note in
the page I pointed you to that a size of 0 means "fill the whole disk."
You want to see the entire container assigned to the Mac before running
BootCamp.

Good luck!

Janina

The wolf writes:

Hello will give this a look at

I wish it would tell me what the error is so I can try to google it
is this a known issue? I have'nt touched any of the mac partitions so it
shouldn't be doing this.
thanks
Hank

On 1/9/2018 8:51 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

First Aid should be in the Toolbar of Disk Utility. At least that's
where it is on my 2014 vintage Airbook running High Sierra.

Note there are even more options available from the Terminal command
line, though with far less Voice Over functionality.

If possible ssh in for better screen reader support. I ssh to my Mac
from a Linux shell.

The reason is to run diskutil, which is a command line tool that does
far more than the graphical Disk Utility.

The man page for diskutil is essential, but a challenge to comprehend.
Here's a good web page to get you started:

https://www.MacObserver.com/tips/deep-dive/resize-your-apfs-container/


Note also that it's possible to install Windows without using BootCamp,
but it's not an accessible process. You'll need sighted assistance.
Here's a page on that process which should be the same, even though
you're not installing Win 10. It also helps explain what's going on
under the BootCamp hood

http://fgimian.github.io/blog/2016/03/12/installing-windows-10-on-a-mac-without-bootcamp/

hth

Janina

The wolf writes:

Hello yes I have it and when I selected it I couldn't find a repair button

please bare with me I haven't used a mac in about 3 to 4 years so am trying
to refresh my memory.

thanks

Hank



On 1/9/2018 4:18 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Isn’t there a first aid in disk utility?
You have to select the disk first and then find the first aid button.
Or is this not working.
Then something seems broken.
/A


9 jan. 2018 kl. 23:00 skrev The wolf :

Hello I am back in the mac world I got a macbook that is a 2009 or later 
addission the mac was orriginally purchased in 2012

it will not support windows10 but it will support windows7

it has 2 gigs of ram it will be slow running windows but will be upgrading the 
ram soon\

when ever I try 

Re: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Jonathan:

I suspect you mean Crucial? And not Crucible?


I believe it's just http://crucial.com

Jonathan Cohn writes:
> Crucible.com  is the standard goto to determine wRAM 
> upgrades for Mac computers. I believe they have an application to download 
> that checks your memory and knows what slots are available on what computer.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jan 9, 2018, at 11:59 PM, The wolf  wrote:
> > 
> > how anoying I will give this command and see if that fixes evertything
> > 
> > a quick question once I got windows7 loaded even though the mac doesn't 
> > support windows10 is there a way or hack to get it to run?
> > 
> > also am not sure if u can help but would you happen to know if any good 
> > places to get ram for the older macbooks?
> > it has 2 gigs it is seriously slow and want to at least upgrade it to 4 
> > gigs for now and then when I get more money saved up go to 8 gigs
> > thanks
> > Hank
> > 
> > On 1/9/2018 9:50 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> >> I can tell you I've spent the last month struggling with BootCamp. It's
> >> very fussy, but also brittle, in my experience, i.e. the Windows
> >> installation process will frequently break, but then eventually succeed.
> >> Go figure.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Relevant to your situation I can attest that BootCamp is fussy about
> >> using the tail end of your OS X container. I actually tried to get fancy
> >> and put in a Win partition mid disk, then assign the remainder for ExFAT
> >> so that it could contain files to share with both OS. Well, BootCamp
> >> refused to cooperate with that.
> >> 
> >> The only situation that successfully created the BootCamp partitionand
> >> launched the Windows install was having the entire disk, all the way to
> >> the edge, assigned to OS X. Even free space, uunpartitioned and
> >> unformatted wasn't acceptable.
> >> 
> >> diskutil from the command line is your friend on this task, imo. Note in
> >> the page I pointed you to that a size of 0 means "fill the whole disk."
> >> You want to see the entire container assigned to the Mac before running
> >> BootCamp.
> >> 
> >> Good luck!
> >> 
> >> Janina
> >> 
> >> The wolf writes:
> >>> Hello will give this a look at
> >>> 
> >>> I wish it would tell me what the error is so I can try to google it
> >>> is this a known issue? I have'nt touched any of the mac partitions so it
> >>> shouldn't be doing this.
> >>> thanks
> >>> Hank
> >>> 
> >>> On 1/9/2018 8:51 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>  First Aid should be in the Toolbar of Disk Utility. At least that's
>  where it is on my 2014 vintage Airbook running High Sierra.
>  
>  Note there are even more options available from the Terminal command
>  line, though with far less Voice Over functionality.
>  
>  If possible ssh in for better screen reader support. I ssh to my Mac
>  from a Linux shell.
>  
>  The reason is to run diskutil, which is a command line tool that does
>  far more than the graphical Disk Utility.
>  
>  The man page for diskutil is essential, but a challenge to comprehend.
>  Here's a good web page to get you started:
>  
>  https://www.MacObserver.com/tips/deep-dive/resize-your-apfs-container/
>  
>  
>  Note also that it's possible to install Windows without using BootCamp,
>  but it's not an accessible process. You'll need sighted assistance.
>  Here's a page on that process which should be the same, even though
>  you're not installing Win 10. It also helps explain what's going on
>  under the BootCamp hood
>  
>  http://fgimian.github.io/blog/2016/03/12/installing-windows-10-on-a-mac-without-bootcamp/
>  
>  hth
>  
>  Janina
>  
>  The wolf writes:
> > Hello yes I have it and when I selected it I couldn't find a repair 
> > button
> > 
> > please bare with me I haven't used a mac in about 3 to 4 years so am 
> > trying
> > to refresh my memory.
> > 
> > thanks
> > 
> > Hank
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 1/9/2018 4:18 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >> Isn’t there a first aid in disk utility?
> >> You have to select the disk first and then find the first aid button.
> >> Or is this not working.
> >> Then something seems broken.
> >> /A
> >> 
> >>> 9 jan. 2018 kl. 23:00 skrev The wolf :
> >>> 
> >>> Hello I am back in the mac world I got a macbook that is a 2009 or 
> >>> later addission the mac was orriginally purchased in 2012
> >>> 
> >>> it will not support windows10 but it will support windows7
> >>> 
> >>> it has 2 gigs of ram it will be slow running windows but will be 
> >>> upgrading the ram soon\
> >>> 
> >>> when ever I try to partition boot camp it says partition error it 
> >>> gives me no 

Re: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

[Jonathan Cohn]

Crucible.com  is the standard goto to determine wRAM 
upgrades for Mac computers. I believe they have an application to download that 
checks your memory and knows what slots are available on what computer.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 9, 2018, at 11:59 PM, The wolf  wrote:
> 
> how anoying I will give this command and see if that fixes evertything
> 
> a quick question once I got windows7 loaded even though the mac doesn't 
> support windows10 is there a way or hack to get it to run?
> 
> also am not sure if u can help but would you happen to know if any good 
> places to get ram for the older macbooks?
> it has 2 gigs it is seriously slow and want to at least upgrade it to 4 gigs 
> for now and then when I get more money saved up go to 8 gigs
> thanks
> Hank
> 
> On 1/9/2018 9:50 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> I can tell you I've spent the last month struggling with BootCamp. It's
>> very fussy, but also brittle, in my experience, i.e. the Windows
>> installation process will frequently break, but then eventually succeed.
>> Go figure.
>> 
>> 
>> Relevant to your situation I can attest that BootCamp is fussy about
>> using the tail end of your OS X container. I actually tried to get fancy
>> and put in a Win partition mid disk, then assign the remainder for ExFAT
>> so that it could contain files to share with both OS. Well, BootCamp
>> refused to cooperate with that.
>> 
>> The only situation that successfully created the BootCamp partitionand
>> launched the Windows install was having the entire disk, all the way to
>> the edge, assigned to OS X. Even free space, uunpartitioned and
>> unformatted wasn't acceptable.
>> 
>> diskutil from the command line is your friend on this task, imo. Note in
>> the page I pointed you to that a size of 0 means "fill the whole disk."
>> You want to see the entire container assigned to the Mac before running
>> BootCamp.
>> 
>> Good luck!
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> The wolf writes:
>>> Hello will give this a look at
>>> 
>>> I wish it would tell me what the error is so I can try to google it
>>> is this a known issue? I have'nt touched any of the mac partitions so it
>>> shouldn't be doing this.
>>> thanks
>>> Hank
>>> 
>>> On 1/9/2018 8:51 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 First Aid should be in the Toolbar of Disk Utility. At least that's
 where it is on my 2014 vintage Airbook running High Sierra.
 
 Note there are even more options available from the Terminal command
 line, though with far less Voice Over functionality.
 
 If possible ssh in for better screen reader support. I ssh to my Mac
 from a Linux shell.
 
 The reason is to run diskutil, which is a command line tool that does
 far more than the graphical Disk Utility.
 
 The man page for diskutil is essential, but a challenge to comprehend.
 Here's a good web page to get you started:
 
 https://www.MacObserver.com/tips/deep-dive/resize-your-apfs-container/
 
 
 Note also that it's possible to install Windows without using BootCamp,
 but it's not an accessible process. You'll need sighted assistance.
 Here's a page on that process which should be the same, even though
 you're not installing Win 10. It also helps explain what's going on
 under the BootCamp hood
 
 http://fgimian.github.io/blog/2016/03/12/installing-windows-10-on-a-mac-without-bootcamp/
 
 hth
 
 Janina
 
 The wolf writes:
> Hello yes I have it and when I selected it I couldn't find a repair button
> 
> please bare with me I haven't used a mac in about 3 to 4 years so am 
> trying
> to refresh my memory.
> 
> thanks
> 
> Hank
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/9/2018 4:18 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>> Hi!
>> Isn’t there a first aid in disk utility?
>> You have to select the disk first and then find the first aid button.
>> Or is this not working.
>> Then something seems broken.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 9 jan. 2018 kl. 23:00 skrev The wolf :
>>> 
>>> Hello I am back in the mac world I got a macbook that is a 2009 or 
>>> later addission the mac was orriginally purchased in 2012
>>> 
>>> it will not support windows10 but it will support windows7
>>> 
>>> it has 2 gigs of ram it will be slow running windows but will be 
>>> upgrading the ram soon\
>>> 
>>> when ever I try to partition boot camp it says partition error it gives 
>>> me no info on what the error message it it says to try running disk 
>>> repair there is no disk repair choice in disk utility
>>> 
>>> I looked both at disk utility when booted in to osx and I also tried 
>>> looking in disk utility under recovery no repair choice
>>> 
>>> I am running the latest osx high sierra can any one help me out here? I 
>>> wish 

Re: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

I don't know on either of your questions--sorry. I guess Google needs to
be your friend on these issues.

I do have a thought ...

You might want to consider a newer Mac, just not a new one. Price should
be much less. You could look at the Macs that support running Win 10 and
look for refurbished, or owner sold models on that list.

If possible, I'd try to stay above the models that support installing
directly from an iso image on the Mac drive, as opposed to requiring you
to create a bootable USB stick. That's got to be much much faster. My
Airbook is too old for that.

There might be two benefits to a used Mac that you would lose with a new
Mac:

1.) Physical function keys, instead of the touchbar. Your choice on
whether that matters to you.

2.) The audible chime on boot has apparently disappeared on newer
Macs. If you're dual booting, working without the chime could be really 
frustrating, imo.


For my money the above two considerations make a slightly used Airbook a
smarter buy, assuming it's in good condition and its former owner wasn't
a smoker.

hth

Janina

The wolf writes:
> how anoying I will give this command and see if that fixes evertything
> 
> a quick question once I got windows7 loaded even though the mac doesn't
> support windows10 is there a way or hack to get it to run?
> 
> also am not sure if u can help but would you happen to know if any good
> places to get ram for the older macbooks?
> it has 2 gigs it is seriously slow and want to at least upgrade it to 4 gigs
> for now and then when I get more money saved up go to 8 gigs
> thanks
> Hank
> 
> On 1/9/2018 9:50 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > I can tell you I've spent the last month struggling with BootCamp. It's
> > very fussy, but also brittle, in my experience, i.e. the Windows
> > installation process will frequently break, but then eventually succeed.
> > Go figure.
> > 
> > 
> > Relevant to your situation I can attest that BootCamp is fussy about
> > using the tail end of your OS X container. I actually tried to get fancy
> > and put in a Win partition mid disk, then assign the remainder for ExFAT
> > so that it could contain files to share with both OS. Well, BootCamp
> > refused to cooperate with that.
> > 
> > The only situation that successfully created the BootCamp partitionand
> > launched the Windows install was having the entire disk, all the way to
> > the edge, assigned to OS X. Even free space, uunpartitioned and
> > unformatted wasn't acceptable.
> > 
> > diskutil from the command line is your friend on this task, imo. Note in
> > the page I pointed you to that a size of 0 means "fill the whole disk."
> > You want to see the entire container assigned to the Mac before running
> > BootCamp.
> > 
> > Good luck!
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > The wolf writes:
> > > Hello will give this a look at
> > > 
> > > I wish it would tell me what the error is so I can try to google it
> > > is this a known issue? I have'nt touched any of the mac partitions so it
> > > shouldn't be doing this.
> > > thanks
> > > Hank
> > > 
> > > On 1/9/2018 8:51 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > > > First Aid should be in the Toolbar of Disk Utility. At least that's
> > > > where it is on my 2014 vintage Airbook running High Sierra.
> > > > 
> > > > Note there are even more options available from the Terminal command
> > > > line, though with far less Voice Over functionality.
> > > > 
> > > > If possible ssh in for better screen reader support. I ssh to my Mac
> > > > from a Linux shell.
> > > > 
> > > > The reason is to run diskutil, which is a command line tool that does
> > > > far more than the graphical Disk Utility.
> > > > 
> > > > The man page for diskutil is essential, but a challenge to comprehend.
> > > > Here's a good web page to get you started:
> > > > 
> > > > https://www.MacObserver.com/tips/deep-dive/resize-your-apfs-container/
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Note also that it's possible to install Windows without using BootCamp,
> > > > but it's not an accessible process. You'll need sighted assistance.
> > > > Here's a page on that process which should be the same, even though
> > > > you're not installing Win 10. It also helps explain what's going on
> > > > under the BootCamp hood
> > > > 
> > > > http://fgimian.github.io/blog/2016/03/12/installing-windows-10-on-a-mac-without-bootcamp/
> > > > 
> > > > hth
> > > > 
> > > > Janina
> > > > 
> > > > The wolf writes:
> > > > > Hello yes I have it and when I selected it I couldn't find a repair 
> > > > > button
> > > > > 
> > > > > please bare with me I haven't used a mac in about 3 to 4 years so am 
> > > > > trying
> > > > > to refresh my memory.
> > > > > 
> > > > > thanks
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hank
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 1/9/2018 4:18 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
> > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > > Isn’t there a first aid in disk utility?
> > > > > > You have to select the disk first and then find the first aid 
> > > > > > button.

Re: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

[The wolf]

how anoying I will give this command and see if that fixes evertything

a quick question once I got windows7 loaded even though the mac doesn't 
support windows10 is there a way or hack to get it to run?


also am not sure if u can help but would you happen to know if any good 
places to get ram for the older macbooks?
it has 2 gigs it is seriously slow and want to at least upgrade it to 4 
gigs for now and then when I get more money saved up go to 8 gigs

thanks
Hank

On 1/9/2018 9:50 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I can tell you I've spent the last month struggling with BootCamp. It's
very fussy, but also brittle, in my experience, i.e. the Windows
installation process will frequently break, but then eventually succeed.
Go figure.


Relevant to your situation I can attest that BootCamp is fussy about
using the tail end of your OS X container. I actually tried to get fancy
and put in a Win partition mid disk, then assign the remainder for ExFAT
so that it could contain files to share with both OS. Well, BootCamp
refused to cooperate with that.

The only situation that successfully created the BootCamp partitionand
launched the Windows install was having the entire disk, all the way to
the edge, assigned to OS X. Even free space, uunpartitioned and
unformatted wasn't acceptable.

diskutil from the command line is your friend on this task, imo. Note in
the page I pointed you to that a size of 0 means "fill the whole disk."
You want to see the entire container assigned to the Mac before running
BootCamp.

Good luck!

Janina

The wolf writes:

Hello will give this a look at

I wish it would tell me what the error is so I can try to google it
is this a known issue? I have'nt touched any of the mac partitions so it
shouldn't be doing this.
thanks
Hank

On 1/9/2018 8:51 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

First Aid should be in the Toolbar of Disk Utility. At least that's
where it is on my 2014 vintage Airbook running High Sierra.

Note there are even more options available from the Terminal command
line, though with far less Voice Over functionality.

If possible ssh in for better screen reader support. I ssh to my Mac
from a Linux shell.

The reason is to run diskutil, which is a command line tool that does
far more than the graphical Disk Utility.

The man page for diskutil is essential, but a challenge to comprehend.
Here's a good web page to get you started:

https://www.MacObserver.com/tips/deep-dive/resize-your-apfs-container/


Note also that it's possible to install Windows without using BootCamp,
but it's not an accessible process. You'll need sighted assistance.
Here's a page on that process which should be the same, even though
you're not installing Win 10. It also helps explain what's going on
under the BootCamp hood

http://fgimian.github.io/blog/2016/03/12/installing-windows-10-on-a-mac-without-bootcamp/

hth

Janina

The wolf writes:

Hello yes I have it and when I selected it I couldn't find a repair button

please bare with me I haven't used a mac in about 3 to 4 years so am trying
to refresh my memory.

thanks

Hank



On 1/9/2018 4:18 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Isn’t there a first aid in disk utility?
You have to select the disk first and then find the first aid button.
Or is this not working.
Then something seems broken.
/A


9 jan. 2018 kl. 23:00 skrev The wolf :

Hello I am back in the mac world I got a macbook that is a 2009 or later 
addission the mac was orriginally purchased in 2012

it will not support windows10 but it will support windows7

it has 2 gigs of ram it will be slow running windows but will be upgrading the 
ram soon\

when ever I try to partition boot camp it says partition error it gives me no 
info on what the error message it it says to try running disk repair there is 
no disk repair choice in disk utility

I looked both at disk utility when booted in to osx and I also tried looking in 
disk utility under recovery no repair choice

I am running the latest osx high sierra can any one help me out here? I wish I 
could run windows10 but it says that it isn't supported so am stuck running 
windows7

unless any one knows of a work around?

thanks

Hank



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Re: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

I can tell you I've spent the last month struggling with BootCamp. It's
very fussy, but also brittle, in my experience, i.e. the Windows
installation process will frequently break, but then eventually succeed.
Go figure.


Relevant to your situation I can attest that BootCamp is fussy about
using the tail end of your OS X container. I actually tried to get fancy
and put in a Win partition mid disk, then assign the remainder for ExFAT
so that it could contain files to share with both OS. Well, BootCamp
refused to cooperate with that.

The only situation that successfully created the BootCamp partitionand
launched the Windows install was having the entire disk, all the way to
the edge, assigned to OS X. Even free space, uunpartitioned and
unformatted wasn't acceptable.

diskutil from the command line is your friend on this task, imo. Note in
the page I pointed you to that a size of 0 means "fill the whole disk."
You want to see the entire container assigned to the Mac before running
BootCamp.

Good luck!

Janina

The wolf writes:
> Hello will give this a look at
> 
> I wish it would tell me what the error is so I can try to google it
> is this a known issue? I have'nt touched any of the mac partitions so it
> shouldn't be doing this.
> thanks
> Hank
> 
> On 1/9/2018 8:51 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > First Aid should be in the Toolbar of Disk Utility. At least that's
> > where it is on my 2014 vintage Airbook running High Sierra.
> > 
> > Note there are even more options available from the Terminal command
> > line, though with far less Voice Over functionality.
> > 
> > If possible ssh in for better screen reader support. I ssh to my Mac
> > from a Linux shell.
> > 
> > The reason is to run diskutil, which is a command line tool that does
> > far more than the graphical Disk Utility.
> > 
> > The man page for diskutil is essential, but a challenge to comprehend.
> > Here's a good web page to get you started:
> > 
> > https://www.MacObserver.com/tips/deep-dive/resize-your-apfs-container/
> > 
> > 
> > Note also that it's possible to install Windows without using BootCamp,
> > but it's not an accessible process. You'll need sighted assistance.
> > Here's a page on that process which should be the same, even though
> > you're not installing Win 10. It also helps explain what's going on
> > under the BootCamp hood
> > 
> > http://fgimian.github.io/blog/2016/03/12/installing-windows-10-on-a-mac-without-bootcamp/
> > 
> > hth
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > The wolf writes:
> > > Hello yes I have it and when I selected it I couldn't find a repair button
> > > 
> > > please bare with me I haven't used a mac in about 3 to 4 years so am 
> > > trying
> > > to refresh my memory.
> > > 
> > > thanks
> > > 
> > > Hank
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 1/9/2018 4:18 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
> > > > Hi!
> > > > Isn’t there a first aid in disk utility?
> > > > You have to select the disk first and then find the first aid button.
> > > > Or is this not working.
> > > > Then something seems broken.
> > > > /A
> > > > 
> > > > > 9 jan. 2018 kl. 23:00 skrev The wolf :
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hello I am back in the mac world I got a macbook that is a 2009 or 
> > > > > later addission the mac was orriginally purchased in 2012
> > > > > 
> > > > > it will not support windows10 but it will support windows7
> > > > > 
> > > > > it has 2 gigs of ram it will be slow running windows but will be 
> > > > > upgrading the ram soon\
> > > > > 
> > > > > when ever I try to partition boot camp it says partition error it 
> > > > > gives me no info on what the error message it it says to try running 
> > > > > disk repair there is no disk repair choice in disk utility
> > > > > 
> > > > > I looked both at disk utility when booted in to osx and I also tried 
> > > > > looking in disk utility under recovery no repair choice
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am running the latest osx high sierra can any one help me out here? 
> > > > > I wish I could run windows10 but it says that it isn't supported so 
> > > > > am stuck running windows7
> > > > > 
> > > > > unless any one knows of a work around?
> > > > > 
> > > > > thanks
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hank
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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Re: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

[The wolf]

Hello will give this a look at

I wish it would tell me what the error is so I can try to google it
is this a known issue? I have'nt touched any of the mac partitions so it 
shouldn't be doing this.

thanks
Hank

On 1/9/2018 8:51 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

First Aid should be in the Toolbar of Disk Utility. At least that's
where it is on my 2014 vintage Airbook running High Sierra.

Note there are even more options available from the Terminal command
line, though with far less Voice Over functionality.

If possible ssh in for better screen reader support. I ssh to my Mac
from a Linux shell.

The reason is to run diskutil, which is a command line tool that does
far more than the graphical Disk Utility.

The man page for diskutil is essential, but a challenge to comprehend.
Here's a good web page to get you started:

https://www.MacObserver.com/tips/deep-dive/resize-your-apfs-container/


Note also that it's possible to install Windows without using BootCamp,
but it's not an accessible process. You'll need sighted assistance.
Here's a page on that process which should be the same, even though
you're not installing Win 10. It also helps explain what's going on
under the BootCamp hood

http://fgimian.github.io/blog/2016/03/12/installing-windows-10-on-a-mac-without-bootcamp/

hth

Janina

The wolf writes:

Hello yes I have it and when I selected it I couldn't find a repair button

please bare with me I haven't used a mac in about 3 to 4 years so am trying
to refresh my memory.

thanks

Hank



On 1/9/2018 4:18 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Isn’t there a first aid in disk utility?
You have to select the disk first and then find the first aid button.
Or is this not working.
Then something seems broken.
/A


9 jan. 2018 kl. 23:00 skrev The wolf :

Hello I am back in the mac world I got a macbook that is a 2009 or later 
addission the mac was orriginally purchased in 2012

it will not support windows10 but it will support windows7

it has 2 gigs of ram it will be slow running windows but will be upgrading the 
ram soon\

when ever I try to partition boot camp it says partition error it gives me no 
info on what the error message it it says to try running disk repair there is 
no disk repair choice in disk utility

I looked both at disk utility when booted in to osx and I also tried looking in 
disk utility under recovery no repair choice

I am running the latest osx high sierra can any one help me out here? I wish I 
could run windows10 but it says that it isn't supported so am stuck running 
windows7

unless any one knows of a work around?

thanks

Hank



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Re: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

First Aid should be in the Toolbar of Disk Utility. At least that's
where it is on my 2014 vintage Airbook running High Sierra.

Note there are even more options available from the Terminal command
line, though with far less Voice Over functionality.

If possible ssh in for better screen reader support. I ssh to my Mac
from a Linux shell.

The reason is to run diskutil, which is a command line tool that does
far more than the graphical Disk Utility.

The man page for diskutil is essential, but a challenge to comprehend.
Here's a good web page to get you started:

https://www.MacObserver.com/tips/deep-dive/resize-your-apfs-container/


Note also that it's possible to install Windows without using BootCamp,
but it's not an accessible process. You'll need sighted assistance.
Here's a page on that process which should be the same, even though
you're not installing Win 10. It also helps explain what's going on
under the BootCamp hood

http://fgimian.github.io/blog/2016/03/12/installing-windows-10-on-a-mac-without-bootcamp/

hth

Janina

The wolf writes:
> Hello yes I have it and when I selected it I couldn't find a repair button
> 
> please bare with me I haven't used a mac in about 3 to 4 years so am trying
> to refresh my memory.
> 
> thanks
> 
> Hank
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/9/2018 4:18 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
> > Hi!
> > Isn’t there a first aid in disk utility?
> > You have to select the disk first and then find the first aid button.
> > Or is this not working.
> > Then something seems broken.
> > /A
> > 
> > > 9 jan. 2018 kl. 23:00 skrev The wolf :
> > > 
> > > Hello I am back in the mac world I got a macbook that is a 2009 or later 
> > > addission the mac was orriginally purchased in 2012
> > > 
> > > it will not support windows10 but it will support windows7
> > > 
> > > it has 2 gigs of ram it will be slow running windows but will be 
> > > upgrading the ram soon\
> > > 
> > > when ever I try to partition boot camp it says partition error it gives 
> > > me no info on what the error message it it says to try running disk 
> > > repair there is no disk repair choice in disk utility
> > > 
> > > I looked both at disk utility when booted in to osx and I also tried 
> > > looking in disk utility under recovery no repair choice
> > > 
> > > I am running the latest osx high sierra can any one help me out here? I 
> > > wish I could run windows10 but it says that it isn't supported so am 
> > > stuck running windows7
> > > 
> > > unless any one knows of a work around?
> > > 
> > > thanks
> > > 
> > > Hank
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

[The wolf]

Hello yes I have it and when I selected it I couldn't find a repair button

please bare with me I haven't used a mac in about 3 to 4 years so am 
trying to refresh my memory.


thanks

Hank



On 1/9/2018 4:18 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Isn’t there a first aid in disk utility?
You have to select the disk first and then find the first aid button.
Or is this not working.
Then something seems broken.
/A


9 jan. 2018 kl. 23:00 skrev The wolf :

Hello I am back in the mac world I got a macbook that is a 2009 or later 
addission the mac was orriginally purchased in 2012

it will not support windows10 but it will support windows7

it has 2 gigs of ram it will be slow running windows but will be upgrading the 
ram soon\

when ever I try to partition boot camp it says partition error it gives me no 
info on what the error message it it says to try running disk repair there is 
no disk repair choice in disk utility

I looked both at disk utility when booted in to osx and I also tried looking in 
disk utility under recovery no repair choice

I am running the latest osx high sierra can any one help me out here? I wish I 
could run windows10 but it says that it isn't supported so am stuck running 
windows7

unless any one knows of a work around?

thanks

Hank



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Re: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Isn’t there a first aid in disk utility?
You have to select the disk first and then find the first aid button.
Or is this not working.
Then something seems broken.
/A

> 9 jan. 2018 kl. 23:00 skrev The wolf :
> 
> Hello I am back in the mac world I got a macbook that is a 2009 or later 
> addission the mac was orriginally purchased in 2012
> 
> it will not support windows10 but it will support windows7
> 
> it has 2 gigs of ram it will be slow running windows but will be upgrading 
> the ram soon\
> 
> when ever I try to partition boot camp it says partition error it gives me no 
> info on what the error message it it says to try running disk repair there is 
> no disk repair choice in disk utility
> 
> I looked both at disk utility when booted in to osx and I also tried looking 
> in disk utility under recovery no repair choice
> 
> I am running the latest osx high sierra can any one help me out here? I wish 
> I could run windows10 but it says that it isn't supported so am stuck running 
> windows7
> 
> unless any one knows of a work around?
> 
> thanks
> 
> Hank
> 
> 
> 
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