Re: converting braille to text and text & braille to audio
Gigi, thanks so much! My friend Liz, is a graduate student at Arizona so we don't often get to see eachother, except holidays. Would you mind me giving her your email address in case she has additional questions? I used to exclusively use PC's, in fact I started in the computer industry (manufacturing & distribution) selling AT's and micro-channel based systems. I was pretty closed minded about Mac's, until I lost most of my vision. When I found out how much PC adaptation and accessibility equipment sold for, and having spent two decades in product management and sales, I was outraged. It was the first time I seriously considered Apple products. Now I would never go back! I love my iMac, iPad2, iPhone and won't give up my iPod touch for the life of me. As I still have a little vision left I rely on high contrast, I haven't become well versed in Braille and have yet to totally rely on VoiceOver. I'd like to take a class to become efficient as I tend to cheat with my eyes in order to quickly get my papers written. It's getting mite difficult A's my vision degrades. Sorry, I see I got off topic. Would it be okay to give Liz your email address? Thanks again, Tammy L. Abreu-Butron (408) 892-1964 mobile tammybut...@mac.com tammybut...@gmail.com On Sep 21, 2011, at 10:42 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > Hello Tammy. > I hope the following statements don't give too much unneeded information and > cause confusion. I know you just asked about braille translation. However, I, > as a professional braille proofreader who needs a lot of braille on her > computer, would like to share some observations which I hope will be helpful > to your friend. These are things which I didn't know about the Mac before I > got mine, and it took some getting used to. > > There is a significant difference that a I am finding in doing braille on the > Mac from Windows. It never occurred to me that translator would work like > VoiceOver does. I've never had one that did work like this. > > Let me see if I can explain what I'm talking about. Does your friend have a > braille display with braille input keys? If so, he may want to try out his > braille display for a while to get used to the fact that translation is not > delayed in VoiceOver until a space or carriage return is pressed. This means > that inputting in uncontracted braille is different with VoiceOver than it is > with Jaws. At first, I had trouble on my Focus 40 inputting so that I didn't > make a lot of mistakes. If I typed a letter and then stopped to think about > what I was doing for too long in the wrong location, it got translated. > Sometimes this gave me the wrong word. As a short example, if i typed the > letter b, then stopped before going on, I got the word but. The letter b is > short for the word but in braille. > > I had to learn when to stop so this didn't happen as often. I still am having > some trouble with this, although I am getting better. > > I did not have a friend like yourself that had a Mac, so I was unable to > practice with it beforehand. When I decided to switch I had to just get my > own computer, after doing the most research I could on my questions. This > braille input thing came as a surprise. Maybe you could help your friend set > up portable preferences for VoiceOver on your computer so he could try these > things out, with the help of us here on this list, of course. > > Regards, > Gigi > > > On Sep 20, 2011, at 8:53 PM, Tammy Abreu-Butron wrote: > >> Hello >> I have a friend who wants to convert to mac and is 100% blind (I have a >> little residual so I don't know the answer as mac user. She needs to >> convert braille into text or docs and to create audio files. Is there a >> solution for her? She has just about had it with jaws and needs the V12 so >> this might be a good time to switch to mac and use the money toward a >> technology change into the mac world. >> Thanks for your help and suggestions >> >> -- >> Tammy & Dubai >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe
Re: converting braille to text and text & braille to audio
Hello Tammy. I hope the following statements don't give too much unneeded information and cause confusion. I know you just asked about braille translation. However, I, as a professional braille proofreader who needs a lot of braille on her computer, would like to share some observations which I hope will be helpful to your friend. These are things which I didn't know about the Mac before I got mine, and it took some getting used to. There is a significant difference that a I am finding in doing braille on the Mac from Windows. It never occurred to me that translator would work like VoiceOver does. I've never had one that did work like this. Let me see if I can explain what I'm talking about. Does your friend have a braille display with braille input keys? If so, he may want to try out his braille display for a while to get used to the fact that translation is not delayed in VoiceOver until a space or carriage return is pressed. This means that inputting in uncontracted braille is different with VoiceOver than it is with Jaws. At first, I had trouble on my Focus 40 inputting so that I didn't make a lot of mistakes. If I typed a letter and then stopped to think about what I was doing for too long in the wrong location, it got translated. Sometimes this gave me the wrong word. As a short example, if i typed the letter b, then stopped before going on, I got the word but. The letter b is short for the word but in braille. I had to learn when to stop so this didn't happen as often. I still am having some trouble with this, although I am getting better. I did not have a friend like yourself that had a Mac, so I was unable to practice with it beforehand. When I decided to switch I had to just get my own computer, after doing the most research I could on my questions. This braille input thing came as a surprise. Maybe you could help your friend set up portable preferences for VoiceOver on your computer so he could try these things out, with the help of us here on this list, of course. Regards, Gigi On Sep 20, 2011, at 8:53 PM, Tammy Abreu-Butron wrote: > Hello > I have a friend who wants to convert to mac and is 100% blind (I have a > little residual so I don't know the answer as mac user. She needs to convert > braille into text or docs and to create audio files. Is there a solution for > her? She has just about had it with jaws and needs the V12 so this might be > a good time to switch to mac and use the money toward a technology change > into the mac world. > Thanks for your help and suggestions > > -- > Tammy & Dubai > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: converting braille to text and text & braille to audio
Hi Yes, it is possible to convert vraille files in to txt files which can be converted as mp3 files. I assume that your friend has a braille note taker such as braille sense or braille note. he can mark all the braille files that he wants to convert them to text files and through itunes in mac he can save them as mp3 files. kind regards. ahmed ministry of social affairs, Dubai, United Arab Emirates. Sent from my iPad On 21 Sep 2011, at 05:53, Tammy Abreu-Butron wrote: > Hello > I have a friend who wants to convert to mac and is 100% blind (I have a > little residual so I don't know the answer as mac user. She needs to convert > braille into text or docs and to create audio files. Is there a solution for > her? She has just about had it with jaws and needs the V12 so this might be > a good time to switch to mac and use the money toward a technology change > into the mac world. > Thanks for your help and suggestions > > -- > Tammy & Dubai > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
