Re: good old good old question, MBP or MBA
Joanne, As I write to you, I'm using a brand new iMac, 3.4Ghz i7 quad core processor, 16Gb RAM, enhanced graphics card, 256Gb SSD and 2Tb SATA drive. This is as loaded as you can make an iMac, it cannot be speced any higher. In contrast, I have an 11in MBA for use when at the office or out and about, or, even for when just sitting in the sitting room at home. My 11in MBA is an 1.8 i7 dual core processor, 4Gb RAM and a 128Gb SSD. At the time of ordering it, July last year, it was the most spec you could put on an MBA 11in. In terms of Voice Over performance I find no difference in either machine, so, with one machine seemingly to be, on face value, massively over powered compared to its portable counter part, I can honestly tell you that I have no discernible differences perceivable to myself even during heavy usage. I will very often have Safari up with 5 to 8 tabs open, Pages with 3 or so docs on the go, Mail with 6 accounts syncing every minute, Numbers with 2 or so spreadsheets open, and iTunes to boot. None of this slows the MBA down and I am ever constantly impressed with its capabilities. Now, you mention audio editing, it really depends on what you mean by that, picture editing, on an iPhoto level will be fine, I even have sighted people use Aperture on my MBA without issue. However, if you mean PhotoShop level of image manipulation at the intense end of reasonable, then you may, and only may, find the MBA under powered. But, I would ask myself very carefully how much image editing you really do. Otherwise, the MBA 11in is the machine if you are ever going to be carrying it about, the keyboard is not compromised in terms of physical key size, bar the F row, which face it, is used less often anyhow. I, in case you are wondering, have my iMac pumped up to the max, as a family friend edits together all my high end digital photography and home movies at full HD and as such, the power makes it more easy to do so. hope that this helps you. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 18 Jun 2012, at 01:05, Joanne Chua wrote: > Hi all, > > I guess by now some of you may have feel totally frustrated with me, > as i bringing this out every so often... > I'm about to get a mac laptop, in the next few days. > But i'm torn between MBP 13inch and MBA. > my question is, what Mac will be the best? Either the MBP13inch, > MBA13inch with 128GB, or MBA11Inch 128GB? > I know the spects for all these three are very similar, and i also > know that MBA will operate somewhat faster in live time compare to > MBP, more portable, etc. I also know that mbp is great for post > processing, and heavy duty usage such as vedeo edditing etc etc. > As this will be the very first Mac notebook that i own, and coming > from the windows screen reader for laptop background, i'm interested > to know, if voiceover will slow any of the mbp or mba down from the > specs performance? > As my windows brain kick in, sort of telling me that the greater > processer, memory, will be better as far as screen reader is concern. > > i'll mainly using it for studying e.g. research, browsing, word > processer etc purposes, however, i also uses it for audio edditing, > and basic photo edditing as well. > > The size of the storage doesn't really effect me as much, however, who > would say no to a bigger size harddrive? The optical drive also not > the priority, as i have a 4 year old IMac sitting at home as my > desttop. > > All of your advice is very much appreciated. > > Thanks > > Joanne > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: good old good old question, MBP or MBA
Hi, there are new 13 inch MBPs. They updated all their Mac books last week. The SSD is the real game changer here. although you are giving up storage space with an MBA, most won't notice nor care about the lesser processor found in the MBA. Not unless your doing something resource intensive task that just demands a more powerful processor and more RAM than you can get in a MBA. And if this is the case, you probably need a 15 inch MBP or an iMac anyway. JMO. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 17, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi: > At one time, I'd say the Pro; however with the new Air that just came out, > along with the availability of iCloud, that choice is much more difficult. > Google Macbook Pro S Macbook Air. There are some speck sheets floating > around. I don't think they've updated the 13 inch pro yet. I'm suspecting a > new Pro would come out in October. Based on everything you've told me, not > counting finances, I'd get an air. VO isn't like Jaws. RAM isn't going to > matter as much because the screen reader is a built-in application, not an > addition. > On Jun 17, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I guess by now some of you may have feel totally frustrated with me, >> as i bringing this out every so often... >> I'm about to get a mac laptop, in the next few days. >> But i'm torn between MBP 13inch and MBA. >> my question is, what Mac will be the best? Either the MBP13inch, >> MBA13inch with 128GB, or MBA11Inch 128GB? >> I know the spects for all these three are very similar, and i also >> know that MBA will operate somewhat faster in live time compare to >> MBP, more portable, etc. I also know that mbp is great for post >> processing, and heavy duty usage such as vedeo edditing etc etc. >> As this will be the very first Mac notebook that i own, and coming >> from the windows screen reader for laptop background, i'm interested >> to know, if voiceover will slow any of the mbp or mba down from the >> specs performance? >> As my windows brain kick in, sort of telling me that the greater >> processer, memory, will be better as far as screen reader is concern. >> >> i'll mainly using it for studying e.g. research, browsing, word >> processer etc purposes, however, i also uses it for audio edditing, >> and basic photo edditing as well. >> >> The size of the storage doesn't really effect me as much, however, who >> would say no to a bigger size harddrive? The optical drive also not >> the priority, as i have a 4 year old IMac sitting at home as my >> desttop. >> >> All of your advice is very much appreciated. >> >> Thanks >> >> Joanne >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: good old good old question, MBP or MBA
Hi, not for nothing, in my opinion, the speed of the processor is often over rated. either way, Adding an SSD, and upgrading Ram, 9 times out of 10 will increase performance more than upgrading your processor. It's also a less involved business. And in regards to just upgrading your RAM, that's probably 4 times cheaper than upgrading a processor. Unless we are talking about going from a stock 13 inch MBP to a quad core new 15 inch MBP with the fancy new display, the processor in the 13 inch is plenty fast for what the majority of people want to do. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 17, 2012, at 9:11 PM, David Tanner wrote: > Well, my only comments come from my experiences working on MBP 13s, and > compaired to my MBP 15.6 which is almost 4 years old they aren't as fast, and > can't be made run as fast because you can't get the faster processor for a 13 > that you can with a 15 inch because of heat problems with the 13 inch. > > I would really think about the limitations that the 13 inch give you due to > heat problems that a 15 inch will not have. And, if you look at the weight > of the new MBP 15 inch it isn't that heavy at 14.46 pounds. But, you get a > lot faster processor and more memory expansion is possible later if you > decide for any reason that you need it. > > AS far as the MBA you are paying a much higher price for less memory and a > processor that is still no place close to that of the new MBP 15. > > > - Original Message - From: "Joanne Chua" > To: "macvisionaries" ; "macvoiceover" > > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 7:05 PM > Subject: good old good old question, MBP or MBA > > >> Hi all, >> >> I guess by now some of you may have feel totally frustrated with me, >> as i bringing this out every so often... >> I'm about to get a mac laptop, in the next few days. >> But i'm torn between MBP 13inch and MBA. >> my question is, what Mac will be the best? Either the MBP13inch, >> MBA13inch with 128GB, or MBA11Inch 128GB? >> I know the spects for all these three are very similar, and i also >> know that MBA will operate somewhat faster in live time compare to >> MBP, more portable, etc. I also know that mbp is great for post >> processing, and heavy duty usage such as vedeo edditing etc etc. >> As this will be the very first Mac notebook that i own, and coming >> from the windows screen reader for laptop background, i'm interested >> to know, if voiceover will slow any of the mbp or mba down from the >> specs performance? >> As my windows brain kick in, sort of telling me that the greater >> processer, memory, will be better as far as screen reader is concern. >> >> i'll mainly using it for studying e.g. research, browsing, word >> processer etc purposes, however, i also uses it for audio edditing, >> and basic photo edditing as well. >> >> The size of the storage doesn't really effect me as much, however, who >> would say no to a bigger size harddrive? The optical drive also not >> the priority, as i have a 4 year old IMac sitting at home as my >> desttop. >> >> All of your advice is very much appreciated. >> >> Thanks >> >> Joanne >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: good old good old question, MBP or MBA
Hi: At one time, I'd say the Pro; however with the new Air that just came out, along with the availability of iCloud, that choice is much more difficult. Google Macbook Pro S Macbook Air. There are some speck sheets floating around. I don't think they've updated the 13 inch pro yet. I'm suspecting a new Pro would come out in October. Based on everything you've told me, not counting finances, I'd get an air. VO isn't like Jaws. RAM isn't going to matter as much because the screen reader is a built-in application, not an addition. On Jun 17, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: > Hi all, > > I guess by now some of you may have feel totally frustrated with me, > as i bringing this out every so often... > I'm about to get a mac laptop, in the next few days. > But i'm torn between MBP 13inch and MBA. > my question is, what Mac will be the best? Either the MBP13inch, > MBA13inch with 128GB, or MBA11Inch 128GB? > I know the spects for all these three are very similar, and i also > know that MBA will operate somewhat faster in live time compare to > MBP, more portable, etc. I also know that mbp is great for post > processing, and heavy duty usage such as vedeo edditing etc etc. > As this will be the very first Mac notebook that i own, and coming > from the windows screen reader for laptop background, i'm interested > to know, if voiceover will slow any of the mbp or mba down from the > specs performance? > As my windows brain kick in, sort of telling me that the greater > processer, memory, will be better as far as screen reader is concern. > > i'll mainly using it for studying e.g. research, browsing, word > processer etc purposes, however, i also uses it for audio edditing, > and basic photo edditing as well. > > The size of the storage doesn't really effect me as much, however, who > would say no to a bigger size harddrive? The optical drive also not > the priority, as i have a 4 year old IMac sitting at home as my > desttop. > > All of your advice is very much appreciated. > > Thanks > > Joanne > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: good old good old question, MBP or MBA
Well, my only comments come from my experiences working on MBP 13s, and compaired to my MBP 15.6 which is almost 4 years old they aren't as fast, and can't be made run as fast because you can't get the faster processor for a 13 that you can with a 15 inch because of heat problems with the 13 inch. I would really think about the limitations that the 13 inch give you due to heat problems that a 15 inch will not have. And, if you look at the weight of the new MBP 15 inch it isn't that heavy at 14.46 pounds. But, you get a lot faster processor and more memory expansion is possible later if you decide for any reason that you need it. AS far as the MBA you are paying a much higher price for less memory and a processor that is still no place close to that of the new MBP 15. - Original Message - From: "Joanne Chua" To: "macvisionaries" ; "macvoiceover" Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 7:05 PM Subject: good old good old question, MBP or MBA Hi all, I guess by now some of you may have feel totally frustrated with me, as i bringing this out every so often... I'm about to get a mac laptop, in the next few days. But i'm torn between MBP 13inch and MBA. my question is, what Mac will be the best? Either the MBP13inch, MBA13inch with 128GB, or MBA11Inch 128GB? I know the spects for all these three are very similar, and i also know that MBA will operate somewhat faster in live time compare to MBP, more portable, etc. I also know that mbp is great for post processing, and heavy duty usage such as vedeo edditing etc etc. As this will be the very first Mac notebook that i own, and coming from the windows screen reader for laptop background, i'm interested to know, if voiceover will slow any of the mbp or mba down from the specs performance? As my windows brain kick in, sort of telling me that the greater processer, memory, will be better as far as screen reader is concern. i'll mainly using it for studying e.g. research, browsing, word processer etc purposes, however, i also uses it for audio edditing, and basic photo edditing as well. The size of the storage doesn't really effect me as much, however, who would say no to a bigger size harddrive? The optical drive also not the priority, as i have a 4 year old IMac sitting at home as my desttop. All of your advice is very much appreciated. Thanks Joanne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: good old good old question, MBP or MBA
Well, my personal opinion is to go for the Macbook Pro. To me, it's just a more solid machine. I've had 1 for just about a year now, and it's really growing on me. I looked at a macbook air at the Apple store, and just didn't like the feel of it. If you're worried about speed, I understand that you could put an SSD into a macbook pro, but so far, I haven't found a genuine need to do that. I guess it depends on what you're planning to do. Also, I think the macbook Pro has slightly better sound, just based on my memories of looking at the air at the store, I was not impressed by its sound quality. I also like my pro because it still has the CD/DVD drive as well as an sd card slot. I just think that for the money, the pro is the best machine out there, but I'm sure others will provide opinions as well. Good luck with your purchase, and I hope this helps you a little. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joanne Chua Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 8:05 PM To: macvisionaries; macvoiceover Subject: good old good old question, MBP or MBA Hi all, I guess by now some of you may have feel totally frustrated with me, as i bringing this out every so often... I'm about to get a mac laptop, in the next few days. But i'm torn between MBP 13inch and MBA. my question is, what Mac will be the best? Either the MBP13inch, MBA13inch with 128GB, or MBA11Inch 128GB? I know the spects for all these three are very similar, and i also know that MBA will operate somewhat faster in live time compare to MBP, more portable, etc. I also know that mbp is great for post processing, and heavy duty usage such as vedeo edditing etc etc. As this will be the very first Mac notebook that i own, and coming from the windows screen reader for laptop background, i'm interested to know, if voiceover will slow any of the mbp or mba down from the specs performance? As my windows brain kick in, sort of telling me that the greater processer, memory, will be better as far as screen reader is concern. i'll mainly using it for studying e.g. research, browsing, word processer etc purposes, however, i also uses it for audio edditing, and basic photo edditing as well. The size of the storage doesn't really effect me as much, however, who would say no to a bigger size harddrive? The optical drive also not the priority, as i have a 4 year old IMac sitting at home as my desttop. All of your advice is very much appreciated. Thanks Joanne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
