Re: iTunes success!

[Brad Snyder]

Glad to hear you got it working on your new Mac.

I got a new Mac back in May, but my iTunes library on the old Mac was messed 
up, so I painstakingly rebuilt my library by adding the contents of my old 
library, folder by folder, to the Automatically Add to Music folder.
It took a while, but I got it done, and my messed up library was recreated as a 
clean library.

- Brad -


On Oct 20, 2020, at 16:26, Traci Duncan  wrote:

I am tech jumping up and down! I have moved my iTunes library from High Sierra 
to Catalina. I’m not certain everything is perfect yet, but all my playlists 
look to be there. My play counts and date added are intact.

*presses hands together. Thank goodness. Lol, when I first got my new Mac, I 
didn’t think all these little music details were important, until I remembered 
I have a few playlists dependent on dates and plays.

Thanks all for offering up ideas and support. Here’s what I did in case someone 
else is in this situation.

I went to music folder on my old Mac, copied iTunes folder onto an thumb drive. 
On my new Mac, I made sure everything was deleted out of the music folder, I 
then copied the iTunes folder from the thumb drive into the music folder. Once 
that was done, I held down right option while entering on the music app on the 
dock. It asked to pick out a library. I pointed it to the iTunes.itl file. This 
seemed to be the trick. Music app opens and everything is there.

Hope this might help someone.

Traci

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RE: iTunes store purchase redownloads.

[Simon A Fogarty]

I thought that to,
But no most of them the download / redownload button is no longer there.

At least for the books purchased months ago.

Books purchased a couple of weeks ago they do have the download button 
remaining.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Thursday, 14 May 2020 3:01 AM
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Subject: Re: iTunes store purchase redownloads.

Hi,

If you know the names of the books, you can search for them in the Book Store, 
instead of the price, it should just have a Download button.  If you don’t 
remember all the titles, you’ll either need to see if they’re under the 
Purchases tab of your account, or search through your receipts.  Not the most 
pleasant task, but might be the best.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
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RE: iTunes store purchase redownloads.

[Simon A Fogarty]

No worries,
It defaults to the reading now tab.

Cheers.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 8:53 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes store purchase redownloads.

I should have said to look at the books app on your iPhone, under the reading 
now tab you should find your account right at the top of the screen. Directly 
under the reading now heading.
Sent from Petrus's iPhone

On 13/05/2020, at 20:44, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

I have looked but not in Catalina

I’ve also looked in itunes on my widnows machine but no the purchased downloads 
don’t all show up.
I do if need be have all the itunes purchase receits
But going back through them will take weeks of time to do.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Julie Rattray
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 8:38 PM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: iTunes store purchase redownloads.

Stupid question and I am sure you have looked but you might need to do it on a 
Mac - check your account details and purchases do they not show there?



On 13 May 2020, at 09:18, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Lists,

Over the last 7 or 8 years I’ve purchased a large number of audio books through 
iTunes

A lot of what I’ve purchased I’ve lost from my phone and iPod where I keep a 
lot of the books I have.
I’d like to redownload the books I’ve spent a lot of money on but can’t find

Does anyone know how I can get these older titles downloaded or at least a list 
of  what I purchased prior to a year ago?

Cheers for any thoughts

Simon F


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RE: iTunes store purchase redownloads.

[Simon A Fogarty]

S Petrus,

I forgot that was there,

Now to download the 140 books I’ve purchased

Cheers.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 8:45 PM
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Subject: Re: iTunes store purchase redownloads.

Hi Simon, If you open your Books app on your phone, right near the top is your 
account. Double tap on your account and there should be a list of all your 
purchases?
Sent from Petrus's iPhone

On 13/05/2020, at 20:18, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Lists,

Over the last 7 or 8 years I’ve purchased a large number of audio books through 
iTunes

A lot of what I’ve purchased I’ve lost from my phone and iPod where I keep a 
lot of the books I have.
I’d like to redownload the books I’ve spent a lot of money on but can’t find

Does anyone know how I can get these older titles downloaded or at least a list 
of  what I purchased prior to a year ago?

Cheers for any thoughts

Simon F

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Re: iTunes store purchase redownloads.

[Petrus Tuerlings]

You got that right, I couldn’t find my purchased items when. I was looking a 
while ago. It is so much easier on the iPhone. 

> On 14/05/2020, at 05:54, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
>   Apple did not make this easy as usual. On the Mac with the Books app open, 
> you go to the audiobook store, and find the Purchased link way down near the 
> bottom of the web page. From there, the layout is similar to that of the 
> Music and TV apps.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
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> On 5/13/2020 8:00 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>> If you know the names of the books, you can search for them in the Book 
>> Store, instead of the price, it should just have a Download button.  If you 
>> don’t remember all the titles, you’ll either need to see if they’re under 
>> the Purchases tab of your account, or search through your receipts. Not the 
>> most pleasant task, but might be the best.
>> Later…
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
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>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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Re: iTunes store purchase redownloads.

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Apple did not make this easy as usual. On the Mac with the Books app 
open, you go to the audiobook store, and find the Purchased link way 
down near the bottom of the web page. From there, the layout is similar 
to that of the Music and TV apps.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/13/2020 8:00 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

If you know the names of the books, you can search for them in the Book 
Store, instead of the price, it should just have a Download button.  If 
you don’t remember all the titles, you’ll either need to see if they’re 
under the Purchases tab of your account, or search through your 
receipts.  Not the most pleasant task, but might be the best.


Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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Re: iTunes store purchase redownloads.

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

If you know the names of the books, you can search for them in the Book Store, 
instead of the price, it should just have a Download button.  If you don’t 
remember all the titles, you’ll either need to see if they’re under the 
Purchases tab of your account, or search through your receipts.  Not the most 
pleasant task, but might be the best.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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Re: iTunes store purchase redownloads.

[Petrus Tuerlings]

I should have said to look at the books app on your iPhone, under the reading 
now tab you should find your account right at the top of the screen. Directly 
under the reading now heading.

Sent from Petrus's iPhone

On 13/05/2020, at 20:44, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:


I have looked but not in Catalina
 
I’ve also looked in itunes on my widnows machine but no the purchased downloads 
don’t all show up.
I do if need be have all the itunes purchase receits
But going back through them will take weeks of time to do.
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Julie Rattray
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 8:38 PM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: iTunes store purchase redownloads.
 
Stupid question and I am sure you have looked but you might need to do it on a 
Mac - check your account details and purchases do they not show there? 


On 13 May 2020, at 09:18, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
 
Hi Lists,
 
Over the last 7 or 8 years I’ve purchased a large number of audio books through 
iTunes
 
A lot of what I’ve purchased I’ve lost from my phone and iPod where I keep a 
lot of the books I have.
I’d like to redownload the books I’ve spent a lot of money on but can’t find
 
Does anyone know how I can get these older titles downloaded or at least a list 
of  what I purchased prior to a year ago?
 
Cheers for any thoughts 
 
Simon F
 
 
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Re: iTunes store purchase redownloads.

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi Simon, If you open your Books app on your phone, right near the top is your 
account. Double tap on your account and there should be a list of all your 
purchases?

Sent from Petrus's iPhone

On 13/05/2020, at 20:18, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:


Hi Lists,
 
Over the last 7 or 8 years I’ve purchased a large number of audio books through 
iTunes
 
A lot of what I’ve purchased I’ve lost from my phone and iPod where I keep a 
lot of the books I have.
I’d like to redownload the books I’ve spent a lot of money on but can’t find
 
Does anyone know how I can get these older titles downloaded or at least a list 
of  what I purchased prior to a year ago?
 
Cheers for any thoughts
 
Simon F
 
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RE: iTunes store purchase redownloads.

[Simon A Fogarty]

I have looked but not in Catalina

I’ve also looked in itunes on my widnows machine but no the purchased downloads 
don’t all show up.
I do if need be have all the itunes purchase receits
But going back through them will take weeks of time to do.

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Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 8:38 PM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: iTunes store purchase redownloads.

Stupid question and I am sure you have looked but you might need to do it on a 
Mac - check your account details and purchases do they not show there?


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mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Lists,

Over the last 7 or 8 years I’ve purchased a large number of audio books through 
iTunes

A lot of what I’ve purchased I’ve lost from my phone and iPod where I keep a 
lot of the books I have.
I’d like to redownload the books I’ve spent a lot of money on but can’t find

Does anyone know how I can get these older titles downloaded or at least a list 
of  what I purchased prior to a year ago?

Cheers for any thoughts

Simon F


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Re: iTunes store purchase redownloads.

[Julie Rattray]

Stupid question and I am sure you have looked but you might need to do it on a 
Mac - check your account details and purchases do they not show there? 

> On 13 May 2020, at 09:18, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Lists,
>  
> Over the last 7 or 8 years I’ve purchased a large number of audio books 
> through iTunes
>  
> A lot of what I’ve purchased I’ve lost from my phone and iPod where I keep a 
> lot of the books I have.
> I’d like to redownload the books I’ve spent a lot of money on but can’t find
>  
> Does anyone know how I can get these older titles downloaded or at least a 
> list of  what I purchased prior to a year ago?
>  
> Cheers for any thoughts 
>  
> Simon F
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Re: ITunes / Music library growing beyond my mac's capacity; suggestions what to do?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Bying an Internal drive for your mac will make you poor dude.
I asked about that on a certificated apple repair and they said to me they have 
to use the apple branded ssd.
And they will cost like 1200 $ maybe.
But if you’re willing to do it your self i guess you can buy what you want.
Then you could install it on your mac but i wont do that as it might break 
something.
An external network drive might be what you want.
/A

> 1 maj 2020 kl. 23:46 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> My Music/itunes library’s growing & growing.  I’d like to pick your brains as 
> to how to deal with it.  Do I go an external drive way, or a very big SSD 
> drive on a new mac?  I’m concerned that should I relocate my library onto an 
> external drive and it then develops a problem, I might lose everything?  
> Also, does having a large library on an external drive slow down the 
> playback/quality?  And if external drive’s a solution, what drive?  Pls be as 
> generous in your opinions as this list allows or else email offline.
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> thanks
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Re: ITunes / Music library growing beyond my mac's capacity; suggestions what to do?

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

Can you put your library in the Cloud?  I just have ICloud Match and all my 
stuff is in there.  Just a thought.

> On 1 May 2020, at 23:34, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   My external drives are all connected directly to my Mac via a USB hub,
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>> E.T., One more question I had forgotten to ask.  Is your external drive 
>> attached to your network or a single computer on your network?   If the 
>> former, is it connected to a router?  I have a Negear router with two usb 
>> ports but I’ve never been able to use a usb drive attached to this netgear 
>> r8000 reliably.  It sucks.
>> Simon
>>> On 1 May 2020, at 23:24, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   I use Carbon Copy Cloner which, once a first backup is done. will do 
>>> incremental backups.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>>> On 5/1/2020 3:12 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi E.T,
 How do you back up such a big library?  To a cloud service?  Is yours a 
 usb western digital disk?
 Simon
> On 1 May 2020, at 22:58, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   I use an external drive made by Western Digital (WD). The model I have 
> is not SSD but if I need to replace it, will look for SSD.
> 
>   A new Mac with a large internal drive is certainly an option but a 
> budget killer. My library on an external drive is about 1.5 TB (music, TV 
> shows and movies), I do not notice any lag time on my Apple TV. And no 
> chance of losing it because I do weekly backups.
> 
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>> Hi,
>> My Music/itunes library’s growing & growing.  I’d like to pick your 
>> brains as to how to deal with it. Do I go an external drive way, or a 
>> very big SSD drive on a new mac?  I’m concerned that should I relocate 
>> my library onto an external drive and it then develops a problem, I 
>> might lose everything?  Also, does having a large library on an external 
>> drive slow down the playback/quality?  And if external drive’s a 
>> solution, what drive?  Pls be as generous in your opinions as this list 
>> allows or else email offline.
>> thanks
>> Simon
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Re: ITunes / Music library growing beyond my mac's capacity; suggestions what to do?

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   My external drives are all connected directly to my Mac via a USB hub,

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/1/2020 3:31 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

E.T., One more question I had forgotten to ask.  Is your external drive 
attached to your network or a single computer on your network?   If the former, 
is it connected to a router?  I have a Negear router with two usb ports but 
I’ve never been able to use a usb drive attached to this netgear r8000 
reliably.  It sucks.

Simon

On 1 May 2020, at 23:24, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   I use Carbon Copy Cloner which, once a first backup is done. will do 
incremental backups.

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   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/1/2020 3:12 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi E.T,
How do you back up such a big library?  To a cloud service?  Is yours a usb 
western digital disk?
Simon

On 1 May 2020, at 22:58, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   I use an external drive made by Western Digital (WD). The model I have is 
not SSD but if I need to replace it, will look for SSD.

   A new Mac with a large internal drive is certainly an option but a budget 
killer. My library on an external drive is about 1.5 TB (music, TV shows and 
movies), I do not notice any lag time on my Apple TV. And no chance of losing 
it because I do weekly backups.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/1/2020 2:46 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
My Music/itunes library’s growing & growing.  I’d like to pick your brains as 
to how to deal with it.  Do I go an external drive way, or a very big SSD drive on 
a new mac?  I’m concerned that should I relocate my library onto an external drive 
and it then develops a problem, I might lose everything?  Also, does having a large 
library on an external drive slow down the playback/quality?  And if external 
drive’s a solution, what drive?  Pls be as generous in your opinions as this list 
allows or else email offline.
thanks
Simon


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Re: ITunes / Music library growing beyond my mac's capacity; suggestions what to do?

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

E.T., One more question I had forgotten to ask.  Is your external drive 
attached to your network or a single computer on your network?   If the former, 
is it connected to a router?  I have a Negear router with two usb ports but 
I’ve never been able to use a usb drive attached to this netgear r8000 
reliably.  It sucks.

Simon
> On 1 May 2020, at 23:24, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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>   I use Carbon Copy Cloner which, once a first backup is done. will do 
> incremental backups.
> 
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>> How do you back up such a big library?  To a cloud service?  Is yours a usb 
>> western digital disk?
>> Simon
>>> On 1 May 2020, at 22:58, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>>>   I use an external drive made by Western Digital (WD). The model I have is 
>>> not SSD but if I need to replace it, will look for SSD.
>>> 
>>>   A new Mac with a large internal drive is certainly an option but a budget 
>>> killer. My library on an external drive is about 1.5 TB (music, TV shows 
>>> and movies), I do not notice any lag time on my Apple TV. And no chance of 
>>> losing it because I do weekly backups.
>>> 
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 Hi,
 My Music/itunes library’s growing & growing.  I’d like to pick your brains 
 as to how to deal with it.  Do I go an external drive way, or a very big 
 SSD drive on a new mac?  I’m concerned that should I relocate my library 
 onto an external drive and it then develops a problem, I might lose 
 everything?  Also, does having a large library on an external drive slow 
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Re: ITunes / Music library growing beyond my mac's capacity; suggestions what to do?

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I use Carbon Copy Cloner which, once a first backup is done. will do 
incremental backups.


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On 5/1/2020 3:12 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi E.T,

How do you back up such a big library?  To a cloud service?  Is yours a usb 
western digital disk?

Simon

On 1 May 2020, at 22:58, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   I use an external drive made by Western Digital (WD). The model I have is 
not SSD but if I need to replace it, will look for SSD.

   A new Mac with a large internal drive is certainly an option but a budget 
killer. My library on an external drive is about 1.5 TB (music, TV shows and 
movies), I do not notice any lag time on my Apple TV. And no chance of losing 
it because I do weekly backups.

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Hi,
My Music/itunes library’s growing & growing.  I’d like to pick your brains as 
to how to deal with it.  Do I go an external drive way, or a very big SSD drive on 
a new mac?  I’m concerned that should I relocate my library onto an external drive 
and it then develops a problem, I might lose everything?  Also, does having a large 
library on an external drive slow down the playback/quality?  And if external 
drive’s a solution, what drive?  Pls be as generous in your opinions as this list 
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Re: ITunes / Music library growing beyond my mac's capacity; suggestions what to do?

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi E.T,

How do you back up such a big library?  To a cloud service?  Is yours a usb 
western digital disk?

Simon
> On 1 May 2020, at 22:58, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   I use an external drive made by Western Digital (WD). The model I have is 
> not SSD but if I need to replace it, will look for SSD.
> 
>   A new Mac with a large internal drive is certainly an option but a budget 
> killer. My library on an external drive is about 1.5 TB (music, TV shows and 
> movies), I do not notice any lag time on my Apple TV. And no chance of losing 
> it because I do weekly backups.
> 
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>> Hi,
>> My Music/itunes library’s growing & growing.  I’d like to pick your brains 
>> as to how to deal with it.  Do I go an external drive way, or a very big SSD 
>> drive on a new mac?  I’m concerned that should I relocate my library onto an 
>> external drive and it then develops a problem, I might lose everything?  
>> Also, does having a large library on an external drive slow down the 
>> playback/quality?  And if external drive’s a solution, what drive?  Pls be 
>> as generous in your opinions as this list allows or else email offline.
>> thanks
>> Simon
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Re: ITunes / Music library growing beyond my mac's capacity; suggestions what to do?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

You should have no problems with access speed with an external, as long as you 
maintain a backup you should be able to restore the library easily if the 
external fails.  Beyond that, if the library is huge just due to music, then 
I'd suggest the iTunes Match feature.  This can let you use Apple's Cloud to 
backup your music and have access to it on any of your devices.  A backup of 
your content is still a good idea in this case, only because backups are always 
a good idea.  The iTunes Match service is $25 USD if you live in the US, a 
little more in Canada, and probably a little more in other countries as well.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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Hi,

My Music/itunes library’s growing & growing.  I’d like to pick your brains as 
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on a new mac?  I’m concerned that should I relocate my library onto an external 
drive and it then develops a problem, I might lose everything?  Also, does 
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thanks

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Re: ITunes / Music library growing beyond my mac's capacity; suggestions what to do?

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I use an external drive made by Western Digital (WD). The model I 
have is not SSD but if I need to replace it, will look for SSD.


   A new Mac with a large internal drive is certainly an option but a 
budget killer. My library on an external drive is about 1.5 TB (music, 
TV shows and movies), I do not notice any lag time on my Apple TV. And 
no chance of losing it because I do weekly backups.


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Hi,

My Music/itunes library’s growing & growing.  I’d like to pick your brains as 
to how to deal with it.  Do I go an external drive way, or a very big SSD drive on 
a new mac?  I’m concerned that should I relocate my library onto an external drive 
and it then develops a problem, I might lose everything?  Also, does having a large 
library on an external drive slow down the playback/quality?  And if external 
drive’s a solution, what drive?  Pls be as generous in your opinions as this list 
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thanks

Simon



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Re: Itunes match or not?

['Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

There’s one other reason you’d want iTunes Match instead of or in addition to 
Apple Music that I’ve not yet seen mentioned: DRM. If you use Apple Music 
exclusively, you always get DRM, whether or not you uploaded your content. This 
is problematic if you routinely rely on syncing to other devices or playing in 
other players or libraries over the network. I no longer use Apple Music, but I 
think Match is good enough for that reason alone. You get the same content 
matching, but no DRM, and the convenience of being able to have an infinite 
library on any device, wherever it is. Of course, if your library can fit onto 
your device, the case for Match disappears, as is currently my case. Also 
notable: Match upgrades your content to 256 Kbps AAC; it also *downgrades* 
lossless quality to that format. You should not rely on Match or Music as a 
backup, just as a convenience. Finally, don’t forget Home Sharing, the feature 
that’ll let you stream content from your Mac or PC to your iOS devices and 
other Macs, including your music library at any quality. Unfortunately, it only 
allows streaming to iOS; you can’t download to your device this way. You still 
need Match if you want that—an absurd limitation, but there it is. The only way 
to get music onto your iOS device without Match or an Apple Music subscription 
remains iTunes syncing, with USB or over Wi-Fi.

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Re: Itunes match or not?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi Tim!
Its a lot of albums, both from apple music and some i’ve added.
Not sure if that may matters.
/A

> 20 jan. 2020 kl. 15:35 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> Is your album one you've added from Apple Music, or is it one that you 
> originally ripped from CD and is in your Library?
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
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> On Jan 20, 2020, at 07:21, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Ok., thanks for your great info.
> 
> I have some odd issues with Apple Music as i have some albums that are double 
> and they continue different songs.
> So lets say i have the album  aqualung with Jethro Tull then its 2 aqualung 
> and the first contains for example song 1 4 8 and the other one contains the 
> rest of the songs.
> There seems to be some crossreferencing of some sort.
> I have tried to log out from apple music and back in again.
> It does not help.
> Not even logging in and out from Icloud.
> What helps is to go to the search and search for the album and find it and 
> then remove it and add it back again.
> This is really ttime consuming.
> Really irritating to.
> /A
>> 18 jan. 2020 kl. 23:13 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Officially, both Apple Music and iTunes Match have facility for ripped 
>> personal music.  I've notice two problems that arise with only Apple Music.  
>> First, Apple Music likes to replace your ripped version with either a live 
>> version or some other remastered version that wasn't the original version 
>> you're used to listening to.  If you have loads of time, you can find the 
>> proper version in Apple Music and add it to your Library to fix the issue.  
>> Second, if you've had iTunes Match previously, and songs have been matched 
>> through the service, but those songs are not available within Apple Music, 
>> then those songs are not available to you anymore.  If you still have the 
>> music in your physical collection and are able to re-add it to your Library, 
>> then it will be added and accessible to you.  Otherwise,having both iTunes 
>> Match and Apple Music is of benefit to you.  When playing music, the OS will 
>> default to the iTunes Match version instead of the Apple Music version 
>> fixing some of these issues.
>> 
>> Later..
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jan 18, 2020, at 13:08, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have iTunes Match as well as Apple Music because I have lots of recordings 
>> which are not available in Apple Music. 
>> Harry
>> 
>>> On 18 Jan 2020, at 20:05, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> If i have apple music do i then need Itunes match?
>>> I am really thinking about that but i am not sure.
>>> /A
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Re: Itunes match or not?

[Dave Carlson]

Tim,
Thanks for the pointers. For US$24.99 per year, I think I’ll pass. Not 
desperate enough to sign up for yet another bill from Apple.


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Re: Itunes match or not?

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Or you can do it through the iTunes app on your iPhone if you have one. 

> On 21/01/2020, at 03:33, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Dave,
> 
> Basically, you subscribe via the iTunes Store window from within your Music 
> app on your Mac.  Details are found HERE 
> .
> 
> Later...
> 
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> Jamf Certified Tech
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> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 20, 2020, at 00:52, Dave Carlson  > wrote:
> 
> Tim,
> Okay, how or where do I sign up for iTunes Match?
> 
> Dave Carlson
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Re: Itunes match or not?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Anders,

Is your album one you've added from Apple Music, or is it one that you 
originally ripped from CD and is in your Library?

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On Jan 20, 2020, at 07:21, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Ok., thanks for your great info.

I have some odd issues with Apple Music as i have some albums that are double 
and they continue different songs.
So lets say i have the album  aqualung with Jethro Tull then its 2 aqualung and 
the first contains for example song 1 4 8 and the other one contains the rest 
of the songs.
There seems to be some crossreferencing of some sort.
I have tried to log out from apple music and back in again.
It does not help.
Not even logging in and out from Icloud.
What helps is to go to the search and search for the album and find it and then 
remove it and add it back again.
This is really ttime consuming.
Really irritating to.
/A
> 18 jan. 2020 kl. 23:13 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Officially, both Apple Music and iTunes Match have facility for ripped 
> personal music.  I've notice two problems that arise with only Apple Music.  
> First, Apple Music likes to replace your ripped version with either a live 
> version or some other remastered version that wasn't the original version 
> you're used to listening to.  If you have loads of time, you can find the 
> proper version in Apple Music and add it to your Library to fix the issue.  
> Second, if you've had iTunes Match previously, and songs have been matched 
> through the service, but those songs are not available within Apple Music, 
> then those songs are not available to you anymore.  If you still have the 
> music in your physical collection and are able to re-add it to your Library, 
> then it will be added and accessible to you.  Otherwise,having both iTunes 
> Match and Apple Music is of benefit to you.  When playing music, the OS will 
> default to the iTunes Match version instead of the Apple Music version fixing 
> some of these issues.
> 
> Later..
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 18, 2020, at 13:08, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
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> I have iTunes Match as well as Apple Music because I have lots of recordings 
> which are not available in Apple Music. 
> Harry
> 
>> On 18 Jan 2020, at 20:05, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> If i have apple music do i then need Itunes match?
>> I am really thinking about that but i am not sure.
>> /A
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Re: Itunes match or not?

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Hi Dave,

Basically, you subscribe via the iTunes Store window from within your Music app 
on your Mac.  Details are found HERE .

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Tim,
Okay, how or where do I sign up for iTunes Match?

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Re: Itunes match or not?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Ok., thanks for your great info.

I have some odd issues with Apple Music as i have some albums that are double 
and they continue different songs.
So lets say i have the album  aqualung with Jethro Tull then its 2 aqualung and 
the first contains for example song 1 4 8 and the other one contains the rest 
of the songs.
There seems to be some crossreferencing of some sort.
I have tried to log out from apple music and back in again.
It does not help.
Not even logging in and out from Icloud.
What helps is to go to the search and search for the album and find it and then 
remove it and add it back again.
This is really ttime consuming.
Really irritating to.
/A
> 18 jan. 2020 kl. 23:13 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Officially, both Apple Music and iTunes Match have facility for ripped 
> personal music.  I've notice two problems that arise with only Apple Music.  
> First, Apple Music likes to replace your ripped version with either a live 
> version or some other remastered version that wasn't the original version 
> you're used to listening to.  If you have loads of time, you can find the 
> proper version in Apple Music and add it to your Library to fix the issue.  
> Second, if you've had iTunes Match previously, and songs have been matched 
> through the service, but those songs are not available within Apple Music, 
> then those songs are not available to you anymore.  If you still have the 
> music in your physical collection and are able to re-add it to your Library, 
> then it will be added and accessible to you.  Otherwise,having both iTunes 
> Match and Apple Music is of benefit to you.  When playing music, the OS will 
> default to the iTunes Match version instead of the Apple Music version fixing 
> some of these issues.
> 
> Later..
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 18, 2020, at 13:08, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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> 
> I have iTunes Match as well as Apple Music because I have lots of recordings 
> which are not available in Apple Music. 
> Harry
> 
>> On 18 Jan 2020, at 20:05, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> If i have apple music do i then need Itunes match?
>> I am really thinking about that but i am not sure.
>> /A
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Re: Itunes match or not?

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Tim,
Okay, how or where do I sign up for iTunes Match?

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Re: Itunes match or not?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Dave,

It's great during this part of things.  Once you subscribe to iTunes Match, and 
enable the iCloud Music Library on those devices, all playlists from each 
device are placed up in iCloud so you don't lose any of them from any device.  
It's quite a slick system.  I only used iTunes Match for the longest time, but 
decided to subscribe to Apple Music just over a year ago because I'm a nice 
husband and father.  At least that's my story and I'm sticking to it :).

Later...


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On Jan 19, 2020, at 10:33, Dave Carlson  wrote:

Tim,
Okay, that’s more encouraging. I’ll have to consider this, since I do have 
playlists on different devices that would be nice to have copied to others.


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Re: Itunes match or not?

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Tim,
Okay, that’s more encouraging. I’ll have to consider this, since I do have 
playlists on different devices that would be nice to have copied to others.


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Re: Itunes match or not?

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Hi Dave,

Actually, iTunes Match is an excellent service.  the complications come about 
when you use Apple Music.  If you have a big library of your own music and 
that's the music you prefer to listen to, then iTunes Match can be for you.  
The benefits manifest themselves when you have multiple devices such as 
iPhones, iPads, Macs, PC's, Apple TV and/or HomePod.  iTunes Match allows you 
to have your library both in the iCloud world and locally.  So, any playlist 
you have or create on one device, is automatically on all other devices.  No 
need to worry about syncing from one to another, or importing/exporting 
playlists, these are all in an iCloud Library that is automatically synced to 
all those devices you've got music on.  An added benefit with iTunes Match is 
that Apple will substitute any lower quality mp3 music with their high quality 
AAC version.  The quality is the only thing changed, not the version of the 
song.  You don't need to worry about paying for extra storage either, iTunes 
Match allows for up to 100,000 titles.  This 100,000 only counts the music it 
couldn't match, so even if you have 120,000 songs in your library, the 
likelihood of Apple having a considerable number of those titles already in 
their library is pretty high, so you would not likely be exceeding that limit 
very easily.

Later...


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On Jan 18, 2020, at 19:46, Dave Carlson  wrote:

Man, this Apple Music and Match sound awful. I think I’ll stick to what I rip 
and keep on my Mac and in my library, and forget all about this Apple/Match 
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Re: Itunes match or not?

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   I still have all my ripped music untouched, in my library. And I buy 
new music from the iTunes store. I've never messed with Apple Music or 
iTunes Match.


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On 1/18/2020 6:46 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:
Man, this Apple Music and Match sound awful. I think I’ll stick to what 
I rip and keep on my Mac and in my library, and forget all about this 
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Re: Itunes match or not?

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Man, this Apple Music and Match sound awful. I think I’ll stick to what I rip 
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Re: Itunes match or not?

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Hi,

Officially, both Apple Music and iTunes Match have facility for ripped personal 
music.  I've notice two problems that arise with only Apple Music.  First, 
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those songs are not available within Apple Music, then those songs are not 
available to you anymore.  If you still have the music in your physical 
collection and are able to re-add it to your Library, then it will be added and 
accessible to you.  Otherwise,having both iTunes Match and Apple Music is of 
benefit to you.  When playing music, the OS will default to the iTunes Match 
version instead of the Apple Music version fixing some of these issues.

Later..


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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I have iTunes Match as well as Apple Music because I have lots of recordings 
which are not available in Apple Music. 
Harry

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RE: Itunes match or not?

[sarai.bucciarelli]

I have both as well for the same reason. Definitely worth it.

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: Itunes match or not?

I have iTunes Match as well as Apple Music because I have lots of recordings 
which are not available in Apple Music. 
Harry

> On 18 Jan 2020, at 20:05, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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Re: Itunes match or not?

['Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries]

I have iTunes Match as well as Apple Music because I have lots of recordings 
which are not available in Apple Music. 
Harry

> On 18 Jan 2020, at 20:05, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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RE: iTunes Store and Touch ID

[Simon A Fogarty]

I’ve got a  phone with face id and I’ve not had this

I do get prompted to double click the side button and once I do that everything 
is fine.

I’ll have to give this a go with my iPad mini I’ve just purchased.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Friday, 1 November 2019 12:28 PM
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Subject: Re: iTunes Store and Touch ID

I have heard of people having this problem. I have not had it. But I have been 
using either Face ID or touch ID, depending on the phone. Nothing seems to of 
changed with the update to iOS 13.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 31, 2019, at 3:55 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I was wondering if this was normal behaviour with Touch ID on the iPhone and 
the iTunes Store? After updating to 13.2 I wanted to purchase a couple of 
albums in the iTunes Store and my Touch ID wouldn’t work. I had to go back into 
the phone settings and turn off touch ID for the App Store and iTunes Store and 
then turn it back on again in order for it to work. Can’t say that this has 
happened before as I’ve only started using Touch ID with iOS 13. But once I 
turned it off and back on it worked again.
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Re: iTunes Store and Touch ID

[Petrus Tuerlings]

It only happened after 13.2, it was fine with all of the other iOS 13 updates .

> On 1/11/2019, at 12:28, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> I have heard of people having this problem. I have not had it. But I have 
> been using either Face ID or touch ID, depending on the phone. Nothing seems 
> to of changed with the update to iOS 13.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2019, at 3:55 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
>> 
>> I was wondering if this was normal behaviour with Touch ID on the iPhone 
>> and the iTunes Store? After updating to 13.2 I wanted to purchase a couple 
>> of albums in the iTunes Store and my Touch ID wouldn’t work. I had to go 
>> back into the phone settings and turn off touch ID for the App Store and 
>> iTunes Store and then turn it back on again in order for it to work. Can’t 
>> say that this has happened before as I’ve only started using Touch ID with 
>> iOS 13. But once I turned it off and back on it worked again.
>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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Re: iTunes Store and Touch ID

[Mary Otten]

I have heard of people having this problem. I have not had it. But I have been 
using either Face ID or touch ID, depending on the phone. Nothing seems to of 
changed with the update to iOS 13.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2019, at 3:55 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
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> I was wondering if this was normal behaviour with Touch ID on the iPhone and 
> the iTunes Store? After updating to 13.2 I wanted to purchase a couple of 
> albums in the iTunes Store and my Touch ID wouldn’t work. I had to go back 
> into the phone settings and turn off touch ID for the App Store and iTunes 
> Store and then turn it back on again in order for it to work. Can’t say that 
> this has happened before as I’ve only started using Touch ID with iOS 13. But 
> once I turned it off and back on it worked again.
> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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Re: iTunes in macOS Catalina

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

The Search field is the first item in the Sidebar.  Enter your search term in 
there, press return, then VO-right to confirm whether you want to search within 
your own library, Apple Music or the iTunes Store.  VO-space on whichever you 
want and the results will appear in the usual location.

Later...


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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
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On Oct 17, 2019, at 13:03, Jessica Moss  wrote:

How do you even do a simple search on the new Music app?   I can do this 
perfectly on the IPHone, but no dice on the Mac.  If I interact with and scroll 
through enough of the items on there, I can locate the search field and type in 
the artist I want to hear, but as soon as I stop interacting with the search 
field and VO+right arrow through everything, nothing shows up.

> On Oct 17, 2019, at 12:43 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Tim,
>  I have not tested but did set the option to show the iTunes store. While 
> getting better acquainted with the Music app, I see no genre in the sidebar. 
> I have a suspicion things got changed when I set yo the iTunes library in 
> both the Music and TV app. And no home videos in TV? So much has changed. At 
> least I see it all in my ATV.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 10/16/2019 10:29 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> hi,
>> Is the iTunes Store visible for you?  If not, go into Music Prefs, in the 
>> General pane, and make sure that the iTunes Store is visible.  the Search 
>> item is the first item in the Sidebar.  Once you enter search criteria, 
>> VO-right once and you can choose between your Library, Apple Music (if 
>> available) and the iTunes Store.  I believe that everything else should be 
>> similar to how you did it in iTunes in the past.
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Jamf Certified Associate
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 10:42, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>>  Anyone figure out how to search, buy, or add to the wish list using the 
>> Music app?
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> Many believe that we have been visited
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Re: iTunes in macOS Catalina

[Jessica Moss]

How do you even do a simple search on the new Music app?   I can do this 
perfectly on the IPHone, but no dice on the Mac.  If I interact with and scroll 
through enough of the items on there, I can locate the search field and type in 
the artist I want to hear, but as soon as I stop interacting with the search 
field and VO+right arrow through everything, nothing shows up.

> On Oct 17, 2019, at 12:43 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Tim,
>   I have not tested but did set the option to show the iTunes store. While 
> getting better acquainted with the Music app, I see no genre in the sidebar. 
> I have a suspicion things got changed when I set yo the iTunes library in 
> both the Music and TV app. And no home videos in TV? So much has changed. At 
> least I see it all in my ATV.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 10/16/2019 10:29 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> hi,
>> Is the iTunes Store visible for you?  If not, go into Music Prefs, in the 
>> General pane, and make sure that the iTunes Store is visible.  the Search 
>> item is the first item in the Sidebar.  Once you enter search criteria, 
>> VO-right once and you can choose between your Library, Apple Music (if 
>> available) and the iTunes Store.  I believe that everything else should be 
>> similar to how you did it in iTunes in the past.
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Jamf Certified Associate
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Re: iTunes in macOS Catalina

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   Forgot about that edit button in the Library heading. That fixes 
both the Music and TV apps.


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Hi,

To get Genre in the Sidebar, interact with the Sidebar, VO navigate to 
the Library item, interact with it, VO-right to the Edit button and 
VO-space on it.  Stop interacting with the Library item, then VO-down to 
the Genre item and VO-space to check it and have it show up once again. 
  Navigate back to the Library item, interact with it and VO-space on 
the Done item to get out of Edit mode.


Not sure if there's anything like that for Home videos, I haven't played 
with that yet.


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On Oct 17, 2019, at 10:43, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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Tim,
   I have not tested but did set the option to show the iTunes store. 
While getting better acquainted with the Music app, I see no genre in 
the sidebar. I have a suspicion things got changed when I set yo the 
iTunes library in both the Music and TV app. And no home videos in TV? 
So much has changed. At least I see it all in my ATV.


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hi,
Is the iTunes Store visible for you?  If not, go into Music Prefs, in 
the General pane, and make sure that the iTunes Store is visible.  the 
Search item is the first item in the Sidebar.  Once you enter search 
criteria, VO-right once and you can choose between your Library, Apple 
Music (if available) and the iTunes Store.  I believe that everything 
else should be similar to how you did it in iTunes in the past.

Later...
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On Oct 16, 2019, at 10:42, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
> wrote:
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Hi,

To get Genre in the Sidebar, interact with the Sidebar, VO navigate to the 
Library item, interact with it, VO-right to the Edit button and VO-space on it. 
 Stop interacting with the Library item, then VO-down to the Genre item and 
VO-space to check it and have it show up once again.  Navigate back to the 
Library item, interact with it and VO-space on the Done item to get out of Edit 
mode.

Not sure if there's anything like that for Home videos, I haven't played with 
that yet.

Later...


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On Oct 17, 2019, at 10:43, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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Tim,
  I have not tested but did set the option to show the iTunes store. While 
getting better acquainted with the Music app, I see no genre in the sidebar. I 
have a suspicion things got changed when I set yo the iTunes library in both 
the Music and TV app. And no home videos in TV? So much has changed. At least I 
see it all in my ATV.

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> hi,
> Is the iTunes Store visible for you?  If not, go into Music Prefs, in the 
> General pane, and make sure that the iTunes Store is visible.  the Search 
> item is the first item in the Sidebar.  Once you enter search criteria, 
> VO-right once and you can choose between your Library, Apple Music (if 
> available) and the iTunes Store.  I believe that everything else should be 
> similar to how you did it in iTunes in the past.
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Oct 16, 2019, at 10:42, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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Re: iTunes in macOS Catalina

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Tim,
   I have not tested but did set the option to show the iTunes store. 
While getting better acquainted with the Music app, I see no genre in 
the sidebar. I have a suspicion things got changed when I set yo the 
iTunes library in both the Music and TV app. And no home videos in TV? 
So much has changed. At least I see it all in my ATV.


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hi,

Is the iTunes Store visible for you?  If not, go into Music Prefs, in 
the General pane, and make sure that the iTunes Store is visible.  the 
Search item is the first item in the Sidebar.  Once you enter search 
criteria, VO-right once and you can choose between your Library, Apple 
Music (if available) and the iTunes Store.  I believe that everything 
else should be similar to how you did it in iTunes in the past.


Later...


Tim Kilburn
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Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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   Anyone figure out how to search, buy, or add to the wish list using 
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Re: iTunes in macOS Catalina

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   Thanks for confirming this. I booted into Mojave so I could end the 
pain. Other than the lack of a wish list option in the TV app, it looks 
good. I have access to all my media. It is not as easy as it was before, 
especially on my Apple TV but it works.


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Hi,

My research tells me that, at the moment, there's no Wish List in the TV app on 
Catalina.  I believe you can add to your Wish List from either iPhone or iPad 
and see the Wish List items in the Music app in Catalina, but the TV app in 
Catalina does not have this feature yet.

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   Or in the TV app, I cannot locate the wish list option. It is supposed to be 
on the price button but is not.

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Anyone figure out how to search, buy, or add to the wish list using the 
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Re: iTunes in macOS Catalina

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Hi,

My research tells me that, at the moment, there's no Wish List in the TV app on 
Catalina.  I believe you can add to your Wish List from either iPhone or iPad 
and see the Wish List items in the Music app in Catalina, but the TV app in 
Catalina does not have this feature yet.

Later...


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  Or in the TV app, I cannot locate the wish list option. It is supposed to be 
on the price button but is not.

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Re: iTunes in macOS Catalina

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   Or in the TV app, I cannot locate the wish list option. It is 
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    Anyone figure out how to search, buy, or add to the wish list using 
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Re: iTunes in macOS Catalina

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hi,

Is the iTunes Store visible for you?  If not, go into Music Prefs, in the 
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Later...


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Re: iTunes Wish List

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   Found it, unlabeled button of course.

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    In the latest iTunes, how do I remove some items from the list?

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Re: iTunes reports busy in Sierra

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

It sounds like there is something going on with the library database.  If the 
problem is still happening, let me know and I'll try to find the method for 
repairing the database file.

Later...


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On Jun 13, 2019, at 14:23, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

For a few days now, if I launch iTunes, it opens but it reports constantly busy 
and I have to force quit it.  I am still on Sierra.  What can have gone wrong, 
and how can I fix it?  Is there & where a plist I could try and discard?

Andrew

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Re: iTunes Match

[KliphnShari Miller]

It does not work.  ITunes match has to be purchased by each apppleID.  Unless 
you share that appleID, then it won’t matter.  I share one, and all music, 
playlists, podcasts show up on all my devices.


Sent from my iPhone X

On Jun 6, 2019, at 7:24 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Hi all, 
I unsubscribed from Apple Music today and purchased a 1 year subscription to 
iTunes Match. I forgot to check to see if family sharing works on iTunes 
Match?and if so how does one check to see if it is tuned on?
Sent from Petrus' MacBook 

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RE: iTunes and the file menu

[Simon Fogarty]

And petrus don’t get to much better or you'll be teaching us.

Chill man chill, take things slow and it will sit better for you.

And besides your probably picking it up quicker than I did.

Good work.

-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, 6 March 2019 2:20 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes and the file menu

It will get better. Don't stress out.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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On 3/5/2019 4:43 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
> Thank you, sorry I wasn’t trying to argue. I think I was just getting 
> frustrated at not being able to do a simple thing. I know I will get 
> better.
> 
>> On 6/03/2019, at 11:14 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>
>>   It's quite alright, Petrus. Just don't argue. (big smile) There is 
>> not a one of us was born with a Mac in our hands.
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>>
>> On 3/5/2019 2:00 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>>> Thanks Guys,
>>> Yes, I admit that I need to get used to basic navigating so I 
>>> usually need very detailed instructions. It’s a shame that I can’t 
>>> really find class’s in NZ to teach the Mac, and if I did find one I 
>>> don’t think it’ll include Voice Over.
>>> Thank you again,
>>> Petrus
>>>> On 6/03/2019, at 10:15 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   No. When in iTunes press VO plus m then arrow to the right one 
>>>> time. VO will announce iTunes. Open any app and do the same. VO 
>>>> will tell you its the menu for whatever aoo has focus.
>>>>
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>>>> true?
>>>>
>>>> On 3/5/2019 1:08 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> That didn’t work, I pressed VO M while I was in iTunes and it just 
>>>>> opens the same menu it opens from anywhere. But if I do command 
>>>>> comma  it opens the preferences specific to that App.
>>>>>> On 6/03/2019, at 9:50 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Petrus,
>>>>>>   The menu bar will show menus specific to an app. So use VO plus 
>>>>>> m in any app you are in..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> 
>>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it 
>>>>>> were true?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/5/2019 12:42 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> Someone replied to Simon yesterday and said he could go into the 
>>>>>>> file menu in iTunes to. Turn on family sharing. I deleted that 
>>>>>>> message and couldn’t find it in my bin folder.
>>>>>>> Silly question, but how does one find the file menu in iTunes on 
>>>>>>> the Mac?
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook
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RE: iTunes and the file menu

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi petrus,

Yes that was ET,

We were talking of home sharing on the apple tv,

To turn on homme sharing on your mac book I believe it’s under preference in 
itunes.
If need be give me a yell at home over the next couple of days as I’m taking 
them off before going postal with a real post.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Wednesday, 6 March 2019 9:42 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes and the file menu

Hi all,
Someone replied to Simon yesterday and said he could go into the file menu in 
iTunes to. Turn on family sharing. I deleted that message and couldn’t find it 
in my bin folder.
Silly question, but how does one find the file menu in iTunes on the Mac?
Thanks
Sent from Petrus' MacBook

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Re: iTunes and the file menu

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   It will get better. Don't stress out.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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On 3/5/2019 4:43 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
Thank you, sorry I wasn’t trying to argue. I think I was just getting 
frustrated at not being able to do a simple thing. I know I will get 
better.


On 6/03/2019, at 11:14 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


  It's quite alright, Petrus. Just don't argue. (big smile) There is 
not a one of us was born with a Mac in our hands.


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ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
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On 3/5/2019 2:00 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:

Thanks Guys,
Yes, I admit that I need to get used to basic navigating so I usually 
need very detailed instructions. It’s a shame that I can’t really 
find class’s in NZ to teach the Mac, and if I did find one I don’t 
think it’ll include Voice Over.

Thank you again,
Petrus
On 6/03/2019, at 10:15 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
> wrote:


  No. When in iTunes press VO plus m then arrow to the right one 
time. VO will announce iTunes. Open any app and do the same. VO will 
tell you its the menu for whatever aoo has focus.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com  


Many believe that we have been visited
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On 3/5/2019 1:08 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:

Hi,
That didn’t work, I pressed VO M while I was in iTunes and it just 
opens the same menu it opens from anywhere. But if I do command 
comma  it opens the preferences specific to that App.
On 6/03/2019, at 9:50 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
 
> wrote:


Petrus,
  The menu bar will show menus specific to an app. So use VO plus 
m in any app you are in..


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On 3/5/2019 12:42 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:

Hi all,
Someone replied to Simon yesterday and said he could go into the 
file menu in iTunes to. Turn on family sharing. I deleted that 
message and couldn’t find it in my bin folder.
Silly question, but how does one find the file menu in iTunes on 
the Mac?

Thanks
Sent from Petrus' MacBook
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Re: iTunes and the file menu

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Thank you, sorry I wasn’t trying to argue. I think I was just getting 
frustrated at not being able to do a simple thing. I know I will get better. 

> On 6/03/2019, at 11:14 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   It's quite alright, Petrus. Just don't argue. (big smile) There is not a 
> one of us was born with a Mac in our hands.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 3/5/2019 2:00 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>> Thanks Guys,
>> Yes, I admit that I need to get used to basic navigating so I usually need 
>> very detailed instructions. It’s a shame that I can’t really find class’s in 
>> NZ to teach the Mac, and if I did find one I don’t think it’ll include Voice 
>> Over.
>> Thank you again,
>> Petrus
>>> On 6/03/2019, at 10:15 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   No. When in iTunes press VO plus m then arrow to the right one time. VO 
>>> will announce iTunes. Open any app and do the same. VO will tell you its 
>>> the menu for whatever aoo has focus.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 3/5/2019 1:08 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
 Hi,
 That didn’t work, I pressed VO M while I was in iTunes and it just opens 
 the same menu it opens from anywhere. But if I do command comma  it opens 
 the preferences specific to that App.
> On 6/03/2019, at 9:50 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> > wrote:
> 
> Petrus,
>   The menu bar will show menus specific to an app. So use VO plus m in 
> any app you are in..
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com  
> 
> Many believe that we have been visited
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> On 3/5/2019 12:42 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Someone replied to Simon yesterday and said he could go into the file 
>> menu in iTunes to. Turn on family sharing. I deleted that message and 
>> couldn’t find it in my bin folder.
>> Silly question, but how does one find the file menu in iTunes on the Mac?
>> Thanks
>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook
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Re: iTunes and the file menu

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   It's quite alright, Petrus. Just don't argue. (big smile) There is 
not a one of us was born with a Mac in our hands.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/5/2019 2:00 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:

Thanks Guys,
Yes, I admit that I need to get used to basic navigating so I usually 
need very detailed instructions. It’s a shame that I can’t really find 
class’s in NZ to teach the Mac, and if I did find one I don’t think 
it’ll include Voice Over.

Thank you again,
Petrus

On 6/03/2019, at 10:15 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


  No. When in iTunes press VO plus m then arrow to the right one time. 
VO will announce iTunes. Open any app and do the same. VO will tell 
you its the menu for whatever aoo has focus.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
Many believe that we have been visited
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On 3/5/2019 1:08 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:

Hi,
That didn’t work, I pressed VO M while I was in iTunes and it just 
opens the same menu it opens from anywhere. But if I do command comma 
 it opens the preferences specific to that App.
On 6/03/2019, at 9:50 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
> wrote:


Petrus,
  The menu bar will show menus specific to an app. So use VO plus m 
in any app you are in..


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com  


Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/5/2019 12:42 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:

Hi all,
Someone replied to Simon yesterday and said he could go into the 
file menu in iTunes to. Turn on family sharing. I deleted that 
message and couldn’t find it in my bin folder.
Silly question, but how does one find the file menu in iTunes on 
the Mac?

Thanks
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Re: iTunes and the file menu

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Thanks Guys,
Yes, I admit that I need to get used to basic navigating so I usually need very 
detailed instructions. It’s a shame that I can’t really find class’s in NZ to 
teach the Mac, and if I did find one I don’t think it’ll include Voice Over. 
Thank you again,
Petrus 

> On 6/03/2019, at 10:15 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   No. When in iTunes press VO plus m then arrow to the right one time. VO 
> will announce iTunes. Open any app and do the same. VO will tell you its the 
> menu for whatever aoo has focus.
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> On 3/5/2019 1:08 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>> Hi,
>> That didn’t work, I pressed VO M while I was in iTunes and it just opens the 
>> same menu it opens from anywhere. But if I do command comma  it opens the 
>> preferences specific to that App.
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>>>   The menu bar will show menus specific to an app. So use VO plus m in any 
>>> app you are in..
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>>> On 3/5/2019 12:42 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
 Hi all,
 Someone replied to Simon yesterday and said he could go into the file menu 
 in iTunes to. Turn on family sharing. I deleted that message and couldn’t 
 find it in my bin folder.
 Silly question, but how does one find the file menu in iTunes on the Mac?
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Re: iTunes and the file menu

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   No. When in iTunes press VO plus m then arrow to the right one time. 
VO will announce iTunes. Open any app and do the same. VO will tell you 
its the menu for whatever aoo has focus.


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On 3/5/2019 1:08 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:

Hi,
That didn’t work, I pressed VO M while I was in iTunes and it just opens 
the same menu it opens from anywhere. But if I do command comma  it 
opens the preferences specific to that App.


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Petrus,
  The menu bar will show menus specific to an app. So use VO plus m in 
any app you are in..


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Hi all,
Someone replied to Simon yesterday and said he could go into the file 
menu in iTunes to. Turn on family sharing. I deleted that message and 
couldn’t find it in my bin folder.

Silly question, but how does one find the file menu in iTunes on the Mac?
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Re: iTunes and the file menu

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Hi,

It did exactly what it is supposed to.  VO-m takes you up to the menubar.  
VO-right/left will move you through the various menus available in iTunes, or 
whatever app you’re in.  Once you find the menu you wish to open, VO-down will 
open it and you can VO-up/down/right within the menu items to find the specific 
menu item you’re looking for.  So, VO-m to the menubar, VO-right to File, 
VO-down and you should find Home Sharing.  There are quick ways to navigate as 
well in the menus, as in using the first couple letters of a menu item, but it 
sounds like you should get used to basic navigation first.  Also, the Menu 
Extras does work slightly different in that you need to VO-space to open the 
menu choices.  VO-space will actually work on regular menus, but is not needed.

Later...

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> Hi,
> That didn’t work, I pressed VO M while I was in iTunes and it just opens the 
> same menu it opens from anywhere. But if I do command comma  it opens the 
> preferences specific to that App. 
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>>> Someone replied to Simon yesterday and said he could go into the file menu 
>>> in iTunes to. Turn on family sharing. I deleted that message and couldn’t 
>>> find it in my bin folder.
>>> Silly question, but how does one find the file menu in iTunes on the Mac?
>>> Thanks
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Re: iTunes and the file menu

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Hi,
That didn’t work, I pressed VO M while I was in iTunes and it just opens the 
same menu it opens from anywhere. But if I do command comma  it opens the 
preferences specific to that App. 

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>> Hi all,
>> Someone replied to Simon yesterday and said he could go into the file menu 
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>> find it in my bin folder.
>> Silly question, but how does one find the file menu in iTunes on the Mac?
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Re: iTunes and the file menu

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Petrus,
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Hi all,
Someone replied to Simon yesterday and said he could go into the file 
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couldn’t find it in my bin folder.

Silly question, but how does one find the file menu in iTunes on the Mac?
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Re: iTunes Library

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   We have some good people who do greet great problem solving. You are 
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Hi,


Good work.

  Later...


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   Finally got it all resolved. Apparently an iTunes update late last year that 
hid the Home Videos in the library sidebar. Once I unhid it, I was able to get 
it all sorted out in both iTunes on the Mac and on my ATV.

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Re: iTunes Library

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Hi,


Good work. 

 Later... 


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Re: iTunes Library Issues

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Yes of course. Everything is fine except in the Home Videos 
category. And the odd thing is that within iTunes on the Mac its in 
better shape but still not quite right. Very strange.


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On 1/30/2019 1:01 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Interesting,

As Tim said can you find them under computers?

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Subject: Re: iTunes Library Issues

 M4V. The 'missing' titles seem to be ones I added back in September, about 
the time I upgraded to Mojave. And perhaps iTunes 12.9 at that time.

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On 1/28/2019 9:45 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Hi ET,

Ust wondering on this,

What format are these home videos in?

Mp4,MKV etc?

I'm wondering if it might be more of a file format issue than ATV / itunes 
having the issue.
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From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2019 12:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes Library Issues

Hi Tim,
  I am spinning my wheels on ice regarding iTunes. I booted High Sierra 
from its USB drive. It has iTunes version 12.8 (current is 12.9).
I wanted to see if my home videos were there but the 12.8 will not read a 
database file created in the newer version.

  Any idea what or how Apple TV accesses iTunes content? Content from the 
iTunes store is fine, its just Home Videos. This is so weird because the list 
of Home Videos is different in both ATV and in the iTunes list inside the 
Movies section. An example is in one genre in iTunes there are 37 titles where 
in ATV its 41 which is correct. In ATV one genre is missing and the titles that 
should be in there are in a different genre but its correct in iTunes.

  Any thoughts on how to get all this in sync? I had tried moving the .itl 
file to see if it would be recreated but iTunes will not open without it. 
Thanks Tim!

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On 1/27/2019 4:39 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

So, these are videos that you've ripped yourself that are not in the
iTunes Library on your Mac?  I assume that this is when you're
navigating from within the Computers section on the ATV?  Otherwise,
there's no real reason for them to be exactly the same as Home videos
are not stored in the Cloud.  This is also rather odd, as it is
usually the other way around, where The Apple TV does not display all
the titles that the Mac does.  Do you know which titles are missing?
Have you searched for them from within the Finder?

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 26, 2019, at 17:33, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

     Latest Mojave and iTunes. I found that what I see on my Apple TV
does not match what I see in iTunes on the Mac. I see all of the
content in the Home Videos folder, all of it on the Apple TV, but not
all of it in iTunes on the Mac.

     I tried launching iTunes while holding down the option key and
choosing the library. No change. Then I moved the database file and
repeating launching iTunes while holding down the option key and
choosing the library. No go.

     What else can I try? Thanks.

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RE: iTunes Library Issues

[Simon Fogarty]

Interesting,

As Tim said can you find them under computers?

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Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2019 7:24 PM
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Subject: Re: iTunes Library Issues

M4V. The 'missing' titles seem to be ones I added back in September, about 
the time I upgraded to Mojave. And perhaps iTunes 12.9 at that time.

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On 1/28/2019 9:45 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> Hi ET,
> 
> Ust wondering on this,
> 
> What format are these home videos in?
> 
> Mp4,MKV etc?
> 
> I'm wondering if it might be more of a file format issue than ATV / itunes 
> having the issue.
> -Original Message-
> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2019 12:04 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iTunes Library Issues
> 
> Hi Tim,
>  I am spinning my wheels on ice regarding iTunes. I booted High Sierra 
> from its USB drive. It has iTunes version 12.8 (current is 12.9).
> I wanted to see if my home videos were there but the 12.8 will not read a 
> database file created in the newer version.
> 
>  Any idea what or how Apple TV accesses iTunes content? Content from the 
> iTunes store is fine, its just Home Videos. This is so weird because the list 
> of Home Videos is different in both ATV and in the iTunes list inside the 
> Movies section. An example is in one genre in iTunes there are 37 titles 
> where in ATV its 41 which is correct. In ATV one genre is missing and the 
> titles that should be in there are in a different genre but its correct in 
> iTunes.
> 
>  Any thoughts on how to get all this in sync? I had tried moving the .itl 
> file to see if it would be recreated but iTunes will not open without it. 
> Thanks Tim!
> 
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> On 1/27/2019 4:39 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> So, these are videos that you've ripped yourself that are not in the 
>> iTunes Library on your Mac?  I assume that this is when you're 
>> navigating from within the Computers section on the ATV?  Otherwise, 
>> there's no real reason for them to be exactly the same as Home videos 
>> are not stored in the Cloud.  This is also rather odd, as it is 
>> usually the other way around, where The Apple TV does not display all 
>> the titles that the Mac does.  Do you know which titles are missing?
>> Have you searched for them from within the Finder?
>>
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>
>> On Jan 26, 2019, at 17:33, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Latest Mojave and iTunes. I found that what I see on my Apple TV 
>> does not match what I see in iTunes on the Mac. I see all of the 
>> content in the Home Videos folder, all of it on the Apple TV, but not 
>> all of it in iTunes on the Mac.
>>
>>     I tried launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
>> choosing the library. No change. Then I moved the database file and 
>> repeating launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
>> choosing the library. No go.
>>
>>     What else can I try? Thanks.
>>
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Re: iTunes Library Issues

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   M4V. The 'missing' titles seem to be ones I added back in September, 
about the time I upgraded to Mojave. And perhaps iTunes 12.9 at that time.


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On 1/28/2019 9:45 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Hi ET,

Ust wondering on this,

What format are these home videos in?

Mp4,MKV etc?

I'm wondering if it might be more of a file format issue than ATV / itunes 
having the issue.
-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2019 12:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes Library Issues

Hi Tim,
 I am spinning my wheels on ice regarding iTunes. I booted High Sierra from 
its USB drive. It has iTunes version 12.8 (current is 12.9).
I wanted to see if my home videos were there but the 12.8 will not read a 
database file created in the newer version.

 Any idea what or how Apple TV accesses iTunes content? Content from the 
iTunes store is fine, its just Home Videos. This is so weird because the list 
of Home Videos is different in both ATV and in the iTunes list inside the 
Movies section. An example is in one genre in iTunes there are 37 titles where 
in ATV its 41 which is correct. In ATV one genre is missing and the titles that 
should be in there are in a different genre but its correct in iTunes.

 Any thoughts on how to get all this in sync? I had tried moving the .itl 
file to see if it would be recreated but iTunes will not open without it. 
Thanks Tim!

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On 1/27/2019 4:39 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

So, these are videos that you've ripped yourself that are not in the
iTunes Library on your Mac?  I assume that this is when you're
navigating from within the Computers section on the ATV?  Otherwise,
there's no real reason for them to be exactly the same as Home videos
are not stored in the Cloud.  This is also rather odd, as it is
usually the other way around, where The Apple TV does not display all
the titles that the Mac does.  Do you know which titles are missing?
Have you searched for them from within the Finder?

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 26, 2019, at 17:33, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

    Latest Mojave and iTunes. I found that what I see on my Apple TV
does not match what I see in iTunes on the Mac. I see all of the
content in the Home Videos folder, all of it on the Apple TV, but not
all of it in iTunes on the Mac.

    I tried launching iTunes while holding down the option key and
choosing the library. No change. Then I moved the database file and
repeating launching iTunes while holding down the option key and
choosing the library. No go.

    What else can I try? Thanks.

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RE: iTunes Library Issues

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi ET,

Ust wondering on this,

What format are these home videos in?

Mp4,MKV etc?

I'm wondering if it might be more of a file format issue than ATV / itunes 
having the issue.
-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2019 12:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes Library Issues

Hi Tim,
I am spinning my wheels on ice regarding iTunes. I booted High Sierra from 
its USB drive. It has iTunes version 12.8 (current is 12.9). 
I wanted to see if my home videos were there but the 12.8 will not read a 
database file created in the newer version.

Any idea what or how Apple TV accesses iTunes content? Content from the 
iTunes store is fine, its just Home Videos. This is so weird because the list 
of Home Videos is different in both ATV and in the iTunes list inside the 
Movies section. An example is in one genre in iTunes there are 37 titles where 
in ATV its 41 which is correct. In ATV one genre is missing and the titles that 
should be in there are in a different genre but its correct in iTunes.

Any thoughts on how to get all this in sync? I had tried moving the .itl 
file to see if it would be recreated but iTunes will not open without it. 
Thanks Tim!

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On 1/27/2019 4:39 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> So, these are videos that you've ripped yourself that are not in the 
> iTunes Library on your Mac?  I assume that this is when you're 
> navigating from within the Computers section on the ATV?  Otherwise, 
> there's no real reason for them to be exactly the same as Home videos 
> are not stored in the Cloud.  This is also rather odd, as it is 
> usually the other way around, where The Apple TV does not display all 
> the titles that the Mac does.  Do you know which titles are missing?  
> Have you searched for them from within the Finder?
> 
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 26, 2019, at 17:33, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> 
>    Latest Mojave and iTunes. I found that what I see on my Apple TV 
> does not match what I see in iTunes on the Mac. I see all of the 
> content in the Home Videos folder, all of it on the Apple TV, but not 
> all of it in iTunes on the Mac.
> 
>    I tried launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
> choosing the library. No change. Then I moved the database file and 
> repeating launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
> choosing the library. No go.
> 
>    What else can I try? Thanks.
> 
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Re: iTunes Library Issues

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   On the ATV the home videos show up in the Movies category. In the 
iTunes app on the Mac I am looking at this in the Movies section. I am 
not sure if it will work but I am going to check the ATV after I pull 
the plug to see if it sets things straight. No I don't use iTunes Match 
or Music.


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On 1/28/2019 3:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Are you looking at the titles in the Movies section on the ATV, or on 
the Computers, Your Computer, Movies section?  As far as I understand, 
the ATV uses it's own Library file as part of its iOS.  This will be 
integrated with the Cloud version if you have Apple Music or iTunes 
Match which use an iCloud Music Library.  That's all well and good, but 
when it comes to Movies and TV Shows, they are a slightly different 
animal as there isn't really a Cloud instance of the Library per se. 
  The iTunes media titles are assigned to your Apple ID and each local 
instance of iTunes deals with them in its own library database. You can 
make changes to the info locally and it probably won't affect it on a 
different instance.  Hope this makes some sort of sense.


Later...
.
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 28, 2019, at 16:03, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


Hi Tim,
   I am spinning my wheels on ice regarding iTunes. I booted High Sierra 
from its USB drive. It has iTunes version 12.8 (current is 12.9). I 
wanted to see if my home videos were there but the 12.8 will not read a 
database file created in the newer version.


   Any idea what or how Apple TV accesses iTunes content? Content from 
the iTunes store is fine, its just Home Videos. This is so weird because 
the list of Home Videos is different in both ATV and in the iTunes list 
inside the Movies section. An example is in one genre in iTunes there 
are 37 titles where in ATV its 41 which is correct. In ATV one genre is 
missing and the titles that should be in there are in a different genre 
but its correct in iTunes.


   Any thoughts on how to get all this in sync? I had tried moving the 
.itl file to see if it would be recreated but iTunes will not open 
without it. Thanks Tim!


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On 1/27/2019 4:39 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
So, these are videos that you've ripped yourself that are not in the 
iTunes Library on your Mac?  I assume that this is when you're 
navigating from within the Computers section on the ATV?  Otherwise, 
there's no real reason for them to be exactly the same as Home videos 
are not stored in the Cloud.  This is also rather odd, as it is 
usually the other way around, where The Apple TV does not display all 
the titles that the Mac does.  Do you know which titles are missing? 
 Have you searched for them from within the Finder?

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Jan 26, 2019, at 17:33, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
> wrote:
  Latest Mojave and iTunes. I found that what I see on my Apple TV 
does not match what I see in iTunes on the Mac. I see all of the 
content in the Home Videos folder, all of it on the Apple TV, but not 
all of it in iTunes on the Mac.
  I tried launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
choosing the library. No change. Then I moved the database file and 
repeating launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
choosing the library. No go.

  What else can I try? Thanks.
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Re: iTunes Library Issues

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Are you looking at the titles in the Movies section on the ATV, or on the 
Computers, Your Computer, Movies section?  As far as I understand, the ATV uses 
it's own Library file as part of its iOS.  This will be integrated with the 
Cloud version if you have Apple Music or iTunes Match which use an iCloud Music 
Library.  That's all well and good, but when it comes to Movies and TV Shows, 
they are a slightly different animal as there isn't really a Cloud instance of 
the Library per se.  The iTunes media titles are assigned to your Apple ID and 
each local instance of iTunes deals with them in its own library database. You 
can make changes to the info locally and it probably won't affect it on a 
different instance.  Hope this makes some sort of sense.

Later...
.
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 28, 2019, at 16:03, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Tim,
  I am spinning my wheels on ice regarding iTunes. I booted High Sierra from 
its USB drive. It has iTunes version 12.8 (current is 12.9). I wanted to see if 
my home videos were there but the 12.8 will not read a database file created in 
the newer version.

  Any idea what or how Apple TV accesses iTunes content? Content from the 
iTunes store is fine, its just Home Videos. This is so weird because the list 
of Home Videos is different in both ATV and in the iTunes list inside the 
Movies section. An example is in one genre in iTunes there are 37 titles where 
in ATV its 41 which is correct. In ATV one genre is missing and the titles that 
should be in there are in a different genre but its correct in iTunes.

  Any thoughts on how to get all this in sync? I had tried moving the .itl file 
to see if it would be recreated but iTunes will not open without it. Thanks Tim!

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On 1/27/2019 4:39 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
> So, these are videos that you've ripped yourself that are not in the iTunes 
> Library on your Mac?  I assume that this is when you're navigating from 
> within the Computers section on the ATV?  Otherwise, there's no real reason 
> for them to be exactly the same as Home videos are not stored in the Cloud.  
> This is also rather odd, as it is usually the other way around, where The 
> Apple TV does not display all the titles that the Mac does.  Do you know 
> which titles are missing?  Have you searched for them from within the Finder?
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Jan 26, 2019, at 17:33, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>   Latest Mojave and iTunes. I found that what I see on my Apple TV does not 
> match what I see in iTunes on the Mac. I see all of the content in the Home 
> Videos folder, all of it on the Apple TV, but not all of it in iTunes on the 
> Mac.
>   I tried launching iTunes while holding down the option key and choosing the 
> library. No change. Then I moved the database file and repeating launching 
> iTunes while holding down the option key and choosing the library. No go.
>   What else can I try? Thanks.
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Re: iTunes Library Issues

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Tim,
   I am spinning my wheels on ice regarding iTunes. I booted High 
Sierra from its USB drive. It has iTunes version 12.8 (current is 12.9). 
I wanted to see if my home videos were there but the 12.8 will not read 
a database file created in the newer version.


   Any idea what or how Apple TV accesses iTunes content? Content from 
the iTunes store is fine, its just Home Videos. This is so weird because 
the list of Home Videos is different in both ATV and in the iTunes list 
inside the Movies section. An example is in one genre in iTunes there 
are 37 titles where in ATV its 41 which is correct. In ATV one genre is 
missing and the titles that should be in there are in a different genre 
but its correct in iTunes.


   Any thoughts on how to get all this in sync? I had tried moving the 
.itl file to see if it would be recreated but iTunes will not open 
without it. Thanks Tim!


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On 1/27/2019 4:39 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

So, these are videos that you've ripped yourself that are not in the 
iTunes Library on your Mac?  I assume that this is when you're 
navigating from within the Computers section on the ATV?  Otherwise, 
there's no real reason for them to be exactly the same as Home videos 
are not stored in the Cloud.  This is also rather odd, as it is usually 
the other way around, where The Apple TV does not display all the titles 
that the Mac does.  Do you know which titles are missing?  Have you 
searched for them from within the Finder?


Later...
Tim Kilburn
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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 26, 2019, at 17:33, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


   Latest Mojave and iTunes. I found that what I see on my Apple TV does 
not match what I see in iTunes on the Mac. I see all of the content in 
the Home Videos folder, all of it on the Apple TV, but not all of it in 
iTunes on the Mac.


   I tried launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
choosing the library. No change. Then I moved the database file and 
repeating launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
choosing the library. No go.


   What else can I try? Thanks.

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Re: iTunes Library Issues

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I decided to start over, empty the Home Videos folder and put all 
the titles into the 'automatically add' folder. Most of the missing 
titles were from September which is when I upgraded to Mojave so no 
telling what happened. I will copy the videos to the 'automatically add' 
folder while I sleep tonight. (grins)


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On 1/27/2019 4:39 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

So, these are videos that you've ripped yourself that are not in the 
iTunes Library on your Mac?  I assume that this is when you're 
navigating from within the Computers section on the ATV?  Otherwise, 
there's no real reason for them to be exactly the same as Home videos 
are not stored in the Cloud.  This is also rather odd, as it is usually 
the other way around, where The Apple TV does not display all the titles 
that the Mac does.  Do you know which titles are missing?  Have you 
searched for them from within the Finder?


Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 26, 2019, at 17:33, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


   Latest Mojave and iTunes. I found that what I see on my Apple TV does 
not match what I see in iTunes on the Mac. I see all of the content in 
the Home Videos folder, all of it on the Apple TV, but not all of it in 
iTunes on the Mac.


   I tried launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
choosing the library. No change. Then I moved the database file and 
repeating launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
choosing the library. No go.


   What else can I try? Thanks.

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Re: iTunes Library Issues

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

So, these are videos that you've ripped yourself that are not in the iTunes 
Library on your Mac?  I assume that this is when you're navigating from within 
the Computers section on the ATV?  Otherwise, there's no real reason for them 
to be exactly the same as Home videos are not stored in the Cloud.  This is 
also rather odd, as it is usually the other way around, where The Apple TV does 
not display all the titles that the Mac does.  Do you know which titles are 
missing?  Have you searched for them from within the Finder?

Later...
  
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 26, 2019, at 17:33, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  Latest Mojave and iTunes. I found that what I see on my Apple TV does not 
match what I see in iTunes on the Mac. I see all of the content in the Home 
Videos folder, all of it on the Apple TV, but not all of it in iTunes on the 
Mac.

  I tried launching iTunes while holding down the option key and choosing the 
library. No change. Then I moved the database file and repeating launching 
iTunes while holding down the option key and choosing the library. No go.

  What else can I try? Thanks.

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RE: iTunes not seeing iPod Touch

[Simon Fogarty]

Once you've trusted what happens if you close and reopen itunes 

Does the pod not show up?

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Sent: Thursday, 20 December 2018 11:08 AM
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Subject: Re: iTunes not seeing iPod Touch

I had a message to trust this computer, but there was no pin.  Once I tapped 
trust, the iPod never showed up in iTunes.

Thanks,
Traci


> On Dec 13, 2018, at 10:40 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> Tracey,
> 
> Did you have a message on your  iPod to trust the computer or on the computer 
> to unlock the device with your pin number?
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: iTunes not seeing iPod Touch
> 
> Any tips here? I connected my iTouch and went through the trust this 
> computer, but it didn’t show up in the menu. Now I can’t get iTunes to 
> recognize it at all.  I’ve tried both USB ports, restarted both device and 
> Mac. I’ve connected my iPhone and synced that up fine. I’ve looked at my 
> Mac’s system information and under USB it shows iPod.
> 
> *Shrugs, I’m at a loss. What do you guys recommend?
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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Re: iTunes not seeing iPod Touch

[Traci Duncan]

I had a message to trust this computer, but there was no pin.  Once I tapped 
trust, the iPod never showed up in iTunes.

Thanks,
Traci


> On Dec 13, 2018, at 10:40 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> Tracey,
> 
> Did you have a message on your  iPod to trust the computer or on the computer 
> to unlock the device with your pin number?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Traci Duncan
> Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 7:05 AM
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> Subject: iTunes not seeing iPod Touch
> 
> Any tips here? I connected my iTouch and went through the trust this 
> computer, but it didn’t show up in the menu. Now I can’t get iTunes to 
> recognize it at all.  I’ve tried both USB ports, restarted both device and 
> Mac. I’ve connected my iPhone and synced that up fine. I’ve looked at my 
> Mac’s system information and under USB it shows iPod.
> 
> *Shrugs, I’m at a loss. What do you guys recommend?
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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RE: iTunes not seeing iPod Touch

[Simon Fogarty]

Tracey,

Did you have a message on your  iPod to trust the computer or on the computer 
to unlock the device with your pin number?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 7:05 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes not seeing iPod Touch

Any tips here? I connected my iTouch and went through the trust this computer, 
but it didn’t show up in the menu. Now I can’t get iTunes to recognize it at 
all.  I’ve tried both USB ports, restarted both device and Mac. I’ve connected 
my iPhone and synced that up fine. I’ve looked at my Mac’s system information 
and under USB it shows iPod.

*Shrugs, I’m at a loss. What do you guys recommend?

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: iTunes not seeing iPod Touch

[John Panarese]

   I know with my iPod touch, it takes several minutes before it shows up in 
iTunes. I don’t know why, but it can take up to five plus minutes before you 
see the iPod register and you can access it.


> On Dec 12, 2018, at 1:05 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Any tips here? I connected my iTouch and went through the trust this 
> computer, but it didn’t show up in the menu. Now I can’t get iTunes to 
> recognize it at all.  I’ve tried both USB ports, restarted both device and 
> Mac. I’ve connected my iPhone and synced that up fine. I’ve looked at my 
> Mac’s system information and under USB it shows iPod.
> 
> *Shrugs, I’m at a loss. What do you guys recommend?
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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Re: iTunes layout?

[Jonathan Cohn]

In my iTunes, I can choose between Grid layout and list layout and when the 
interaction level is high enough when in list view, the arrow keys will read 
the entire row. Now, you can adjust what is in that row by looking at the 
scroll area of the dialog brought up with command-J (View Option).

HTH,

Jonathan

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> Hi,
> 
> Try to change the style of view.  For example, when the playlist is selected, 
> go up to the View menu, down to View As, and right to Playlist.  It sounds 
> like you are currently in the Songs view, so Playlist view may be more what 
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> On Nov 20, 2018, at 09:29, Matt Turner  > wrote:
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> Hi, let me see if I can explane this.
> So in windows using, NVDA let's say the track number/ name is 01.untitled.
> It would read all that at the same time.
> With voiceover, I need to vo left, then I see the track number 01, then vo 
> left then i see the tracks title.
> It’s just something I’ll have to get used to maybe.   
> 
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>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 07:47, Matt Turner > > wrote:
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>> Hi folks.
>> Just wondering if there’s a way to have vo speak the track number/ title 
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Re: iTunes layout?

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Hi,

Try to change the style of view.  For example, when the playlist is selected, 
go up to the View menu, down to View As, and right to Playlist.  It sounds like 
you are currently in the Songs view, so Playlist view may be more what you're 
hoping for.

Later...

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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 20, 2018, at 09:29, Matt Turner  wrote:

Hi, let me see if I can explane this.
So in windows using, NVDA let's say the track number/ name is 01.untitled.
It would read all that at the same time.
With voiceover, I need to vo left, then I see the track number 01, then vo left 
then i see the tracks title.
It’s just something I’ll have to get used to maybe. 

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> How does it do it in Windows?  Not sure exactly what you want here.
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> Later...
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> On Nov 20, 2018, at 07:47, Matt Turner  > wrote:
> 
> Hi folks.
> Just wondering if there’s a way to have vo speak the track number/ title like 
> it does in windows?
> If I’m on a song, I have to vo left, then I here the track number, then if I 
> vo left again, I here the track title.
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Re: iTunes layout?

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Hi, let me see if I can explane this.
So in windows using, NVDA let's say the track number/ name is 01.untitled.
It would read all that at the same time.
With voiceover, I need to vo left, then I see the track number 01, then vo left 
then i see the tracks title.
It’s just something I’ll have to get used to maybe. 

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> 
> How does it do it in Windows?  Not sure exactly what you want here.
> 
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> 
> On Nov 20, 2018, at 07:47, Matt Turner  > wrote:
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> Hi folks.
> Just wondering if there’s a way to have vo speak the track number/ title like 
> it does in windows?
> If I’m on a song, I have to vo left, then I here the track number, then if I 
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Re: iTunes layout?

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Hi,

How does it do it in Windows?  Not sure exactly what you want here.

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Hi folks.
Just wondering if there’s a way to have vo speak the track number/ title like 
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Re: iTunes under Mojave Issue

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   All sorted out. iTunes Media is the correct folder for the library. 
What I probably needed was to consolidate it, not sure but it is in 
working order now and Apple TV sees the library.


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On 11/2/2018 1:13 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Hmmm.  That's not what is supposed to happen when you consolidate.  I 
know that computers don't always do what they're supposed to, but the 
consolidation is supposed to organize everything properly.  Oh well.  In 
either case, I'm not sure why you're having that problem.  I tested it 
here and all is normal.


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   I had done that and everything was moved out of the iTunes Media 
folder, very messy. So I did a restore, redownloaded the TV shows and 
got the same result.


   Everything went fine when iTunes was pointed to the iTunes Media 
folder. I don't know what I may have changed after installing Mojave and 
I ended up pointing to the iTunes folder to resolve something else. 
Strange because I have done perhaps 3-4 clean installs.


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Hi,
In some ways, it just doesn't matter, but if you really wish to try, 
you could go under the File menu in iTunes, down to Library, then 
right and down to Organize Library.  See if that cleans things up for you.

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  I purchased a couple TV shows this week, first time since installing 
Mojave. Instead of these shows being placed in the TV Shows folder 
under iTunes Media. They are in a TV Shows folder under the iTunes folder.
  I can see them fine in iTunes and in Apple TV. How best to correct 
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Re: iTunes under Mojave Issue

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Hmmm.  That's not what is supposed to happen when you consolidate.  I know that 
computers don't always do what they're supposed to, but the consolidation is 
supposed to organize everything properly.  Oh well.  In either case, I'm not 
sure why you're having that problem.  I tested it here and all is normal.

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  I had done that and everything was moved out of the iTunes Media folder, very 
messy. So I did a restore, redownloaded the TV shows and got the same result.

  Everything went fine when iTunes was pointed to the iTunes Media folder. I 
don't know what I may have changed after installing Mojave and I ended up 
pointing to the iTunes folder to resolve something else. Strange because I have 
done perhaps 3-4 clean installs.

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> Hi,
> In some ways, it just doesn't matter, but if you really wish to try, you 
> could go under the File menu in iTunes, down to Library, then right and down 
> to Organize Library.  See if that cleans things up for you.
> Later...
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> Mojave. Instead of these shows being placed in the TV Shows folder under 
> iTunes Media. They are in a TV Shows folder under the iTunes folder.
>   I can see them fine in iTunes and in Apple TV. How best to correct this? 
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Re: iTunes under Mojave Issue

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   I had done that and everything was moved out of the iTunes Media 
folder, very messy. So I did a restore, redownloaded the TV shows and 
got the same result.


   Everything went fine when iTunes was pointed to the iTunes Media 
folder. I don't know what I may have changed after installing Mojave and 
I ended up pointing to the iTunes folder to resolve something else. 
Strange because I have done perhaps 3-4 clean installs.


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Hi,

In some ways, it just doesn't matter, but if you really wish to try, you 
could go under the File menu in iTunes, down to Library, then right and 
down to Organize Library.  See if that cleans things up for you.


Later...

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   I purchased a couple TV shows this week, first time since installing 
Mojave. Instead of these shows being placed in the TV Shows folder under 
iTunes Media. They are in a TV Shows folder under the iTunes folder.


   I can see them fine in iTunes and in Apple TV. How best to correct 
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Re: iTunes under Mojave Issue

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

In some ways, it just doesn't matter, but if you really wish to try, you could 
go under the File menu in iTunes, down to Library, then right and down to 
Organize Library.  See if that cleans things up for you.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 2, 2018, at 12:33, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  I purchased a couple TV shows this week, first time since installing Mojave. 
Instead of these shows being placed in the TV Shows folder under iTunes Media. 
They are in a TV Shows folder under the iTunes folder.

  I can see them fine in iTunes and in Apple TV. How best to correct this? 
Thanks.

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Re: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   12.9.

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On 9/16/2018 11:41 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Sorry ET,

Just confirm, did you mean 12.10 or 12.0?

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 I see what happened. The iTunes version usually matches on both platforms. 
Mojave which will be released very soon is running iTunes 12.0.

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On the VIPhone  list,  they say 12.9. They are discussing iTunes for pc, so 
perhaps the numbers are different.

Arnold Schmidt

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On Sep 16, 2018, at 11:42 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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Yu mean 12.8 which was just updated recently. No issues here on the Mac.

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There is discussion on the VIPhone  and other lists, that iTunes 12.9 for pc 
has serious accessibility issues. How is it for the Mac? Thanks for any 
opinions.
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RE: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?

[Simon Fogarty]

Sorry ET,

Just confirm, did you mean 12.10 or 12.0?

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I see what happened. The iTunes version usually matches on both platforms. 
Mojave which will be released very soon is running iTunes 12.0.

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On 9/16/2018 9:27 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
> On the VIPhone  list,  they say 12.9. They are discussing iTunes for pc, so 
> perhaps the numbers are different.
> 
> Arnold Schmidt
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
> 
> On Sep 16, 2018, at 11:42 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
>Yu mean 12.8 which was just updated recently. No issues here on the Mac.
> 
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> true?
> 
>> On 9/16/2018 1:02 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
>> There is discussion on the VIPhone  and other lists, that iTunes 12.9 for pc 
>> has serious accessibility issues. How is it for the Mac? Thanks for any 
>> opinions.
>> Arnold Schmidt
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RE: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?

[Simon Fogarty]

No,

 12.9 is the latest on the windows platform.

And yeah it doesn't work.


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On the VIPhone  list,  they say 12.9. They are discussing iTunes for pc, so 
perhaps the numbers are different. 

Arnold Schmidt 

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On Sep 16, 2018, at 11:42 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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  Yu mean 12.8 which was just updated recently. No issues here on the Mac.

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> On 9/16/2018 1:02 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
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> has serious accessibility issues. How is it for the Mac? Thanks for any 
> opinions.
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Re: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?

[Arnold Schmidt]

They are saying that, at least with jaws, the column browser doesn't work, plus 
some other problems. Other users say they have no problem with it, so who 
knows. My old pc is way too old to run a modern version of iTunes, and my Mac 
Mini is not going to be able to run Mojave, so I guess I don't have to worry. I 
was just curious. 


Arnold Schmidt 


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On Sep 16, 2018, at 3:07 PM, matthew dyer  
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Hi,

Using here on my mac and not seeing any problems.  What seems to be the problem 
with itunes on the mac.

Matthew



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There is discussion on the VIPhone  and other lists, that iTunes 12.9 for pc 
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RE: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

Using here on my mac and not seeing any problems.  What seems to be the problem 
with itunes on the mac.

Matthew



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Re: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?

[Jonathan Cohn]

I believe NVDA 2018.3 beta works better with the new iTunes than the current 
2018.2 version. Nun f said for this list.
> On Sep 16, 2018, at 1:19 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   I see what happened. The iTunes version usually matches on both platforms. 
> Mojave which will be released very soon is running iTunes 12.0.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
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> 
> On 9/16/2018 9:27 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
>> On the VIPhone  list,  they say 12.9. They are discussing iTunes for pc, so 
>> perhaps the numbers are different.
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
>> On Sep 16, 2018, at 11:42 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>>   Yu mean 12.8 which was just updated recently. No issues here on the Mac.
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
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>>> On 9/16/2018 1:02 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
>>> There is discussion on the VIPhone  and other lists, that iTunes 12.9 for 
>>> pc has serious accessibility issues. How is it for the Mac? Thanks for any 
>>> opinions.
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Re: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I see what happened. The iTunes version usually matches on both 
platforms. Mojave which will be released very soon is running iTunes 12.0.


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On the VIPhone  list,  they say 12.9. They are discussing iTunes for pc, so 
perhaps the numbers are different.

Arnold Schmidt

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On Sep 16, 2018, at 11:42 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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   Yu mean 12.8 which was just updated recently. No issues here on the Mac.

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Re: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?

[Arnold Schmidt]

On the VIPhone  list,  they say 12.9. They are discussing iTunes for pc, so 
perhaps the numbers are different. 

Arnold Schmidt 

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On Sep 16, 2018, at 11:42 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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  Yu mean 12.8 which was just updated recently. No issues here on the Mac.

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> There is discussion on the VIPhone  and other lists, that iTunes 12.9 for pc 
> has serious accessibility issues. How is it for the Mac? Thanks for any 
> opinions.
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Re: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?

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   Yu mean 12.8 which was just updated recently. No issues here on the Mac.

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Re: iTunes reports busy

[Agent086b]

Hi Anne,
what do you mean by throw out iTunes preferences?
Thanks,
Max.

> On 16 Apr 2018, at 6:18 pm, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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> Hello Andrew,
> 
> I’m also still on Sierra and having no trouble at all with iTunes. Have you 
> done the usual things to fix minor problems such as First Aid in Disk Utility 
> and reinitialising the PRAM? Then you could throw out your iTunes Preferences 
> and see what happens.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 23:16, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I’m still on Sierra on macbook pro 2014.  Recently iTunes started playing 
>> up.  When I attempt to open the app, voiceover says “busy” all the time and 
>> iTunes doesn’t open.  Then I get a message of non-responsive application and 
>> have to force quit iTunes.  I have to restart my mac to be able to open 
>> iTunes.  Is there a way of somehow resetting or debugging iTunes?
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
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Re: iTunes reports busy

[Andrew Lamanche]

Ah yes, goodness, forgot about the PRAM reset and the preference plist.  I’ll 
try these steps first. Thank you, Anne and Tim.  As they say these days: 
“awesome”!Couldn’t resist throwing this one. :)
> On Apr 16, 2018, at 9:18 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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> Hello Andrew,
> 
> I’m also still on Sierra and having no trouble at all with iTunes. Have you 
> done the usual things to fix minor problems such as First Aid in Disk Utility 
> and reinitialising the PRAM? Then you could throw out your iTunes Preferences 
> and see what happens.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 23:16, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I’m still on Sierra on macbook pro 2014.  Recently iTunes started playing 
>> up.  When I attempt to open the app, voiceover says “busy” all the time and 
>> iTunes doesn’t open.  Then I get a message of non-responsive application and 
>> have to force quit iTunes.  I have to restart my mac to be able to open 
>> iTunes.  Is there a way of somehow resetting or debugging iTunes?
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: iTunes reports busy

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Try starting up iTunes while holding down the Option key.  This will force 
iTunes to ask which library you'd like to start from.  I'd create a new iTunes 
Library, and see if iTunes, the app, starts normally.  If it does, then there's 
likely an issue with the iTunes database file, not your music, the database 
that logs the various media and locations of everything.  If iTunes does start 
up using this process, you can repair the old library, or at least attempt to, 
using the following method...

https://www.kirkville.com/how-to-rebuild-your-itunes-library/ 


Otherwise, if playlists that you've created are not a factor, you can simply 
use the new library that you created, and import all the music from the 
original library into this new one using the Add to Library item under the File 
menu.

HTH.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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On Apr 16, 2018, at 02:18, Anne Robertson  wrote:

Hello Andrew,

I’m also still on Sierra and having no trouble at all with iTunes. Have you 
done the usual things to fix minor problems such as First Aid in Disk Utility 
and reinitialising the PRAM? Then you could throw out your iTunes Preferences 
and see what happens.

Cheers,

Anne



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> Hi,
> 
> I’m still on Sierra on macbook pro 2014.  Recently iTunes started playing up. 
>  When I attempt to open the app, voiceover says “busy” all the time and 
> iTunes doesn’t open.  Then I get a message of non-responsive application and 
> have to force quit iTunes.  I have to restart my mac to be able to open 
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> 
> Many thanks
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> Andrew
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Re: iTunes reports busy

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Andrew,

I’m also still on Sierra and having no trouble at all with iTunes. Have you 
done the usual things to fix minor problems such as First Aid in Disk Utility 
and reinitialising the PRAM? Then you could throw out your iTunes Preferences 
and see what happens.

Cheers,

Anne

 

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> Hi,
> 
> I’m still on Sierra on macbook pro 2014.  Recently iTunes started playing up. 
>  When I attempt to open the app, voiceover says “busy” all the time and 
> iTunes doesn’t open.  Then I get a message of non-responsive application and 
> have to force quit iTunes.  I have to restart my mac to be able to open 
> iTunes.  Is there a way of somehow resetting or debugging iTunes?
> 
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Re: iTunes Notifications

[Brandon A. Olivares]

Thank you, you are a lifesaver! I'm pretty sure that was exactly it.

Brandon

> On Mar 24, 2018, at 8:53 AM, alia robinson  wrote:
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> turn update phone over wifi off.
> 
> On Mar 24, 2018, at 8:52 AM, Brandon A. Olivares  
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> Not really sure how to describe this one. Just starting a day or two ago, 
> iTunes has started playing the tritone alert sound, every couple of minutes.
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Re: iTunes Notifications

[alia robinson]

turn update phone over wifi off.

On Mar 24, 2018, at 8:52 AM, Brandon A. Olivares  
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Not really sure how to describe this one. Just starting a day or two ago, 
iTunes has started playing the tritone alert sound, every couple of minutes.

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Re: iTunes Versus CDs

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Depends upon what you mean by best?

Look at this youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eC6L3_k_48

Gena

Braille is a reading and writing language that all blind people should learn to 
use.

Michael Hingson 2011.

> On 17 Dec 2017, at 01:06, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
> 
> Cd`s quality is best. The studio work with mics and master to digital devices 
> is most important. A good file to put on the plate.
> 
> Take care   
> 
> 11. des. 2017 kl. 18:06 skrev E.T. :
> 
>  I have what is probably the equivalent of well over 700 cd's which adds up 
> to almost 40gigs. That is nothing for most people I am sure. Digital content 
> is definitely easy to manage.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
>> On 12/10/2017 11:05 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> Angus,
>> ET does point out a big issue and that is space,
>> CD's do after a while start taking up storage space I've got my 200 sitting 
>> in a cabinet where as my MP3 collection sits both in the cloud and on a 
>> shared harddrive from one of my servers.
>> So really it's up to what works for you.
>> As Tim says, no reason that ripping cd's into mp3 will allow you to have 
>> access to everything via airplay
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>> Sent: Monday, 11 December 2017 12:19 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iTunes Versus CDs
>> Hi,
>> With AirPlay and Bluetooth technologies nowadays, purchasing from iTunes 
>> allows you to share your music with whoever you wish in full stereo or 
>> surround sound.  All my music has either been ripped from CD, digitized from 
>> LP, or purchased from iTunes.  All songs are able to be played through my 
>> two audio receivers and one sound bar via AirPlay or through via Bluetooth 
>> to my Bose Mini 2.  The audio quality from a CD vs the high quality iTunes 
>> format is negligible unless you're using the digital outputs from the CD 
>> unit to the receiver.  Even then, unless you're an audio-file, I'm not 
>> certain that most people would notice the difference.
>> So, in my opinion, after that long-winded reply, I'd probably choose the 
>> iTunes version, but that's just my opinion.
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Dec 10, 2017, at 14:18, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> The CD will have better Fidelity. It might cost more. You could always rip 
>> it into iTunes at the best Fidelity your storage Will allow, then you get 
>> the best of both.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Dec 10, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Karen Lewellen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> While I fully respect your question, it is a bit open ended.
>>> Do you mean technically? in terms of sitting in your living room with the 
>>> adorable stereo of your choice, verses wearing small headphones not sharing 
>>> the musical magic with anyone?
>>> Just one interpretation.
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin
>>> or his background or his religion ... People must learn to hate, and
>>> if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love... For love
>>> comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite." Nelson
>>> Mandela.
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, 10 Dec 2017, Angus MacKinnon wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I Have been thinking of buying some albums off iTunes. I got to wondering 
>>>> if their is an advantage of buying the CD. So, Is their any advantage of 
>>>> buying an album versus buying an album fromm iTunes? Thank you.
>>>> 
>>>> Angus MacKinnon
>>>> 
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Re: iTunes Versus CDs

[Terje Strømberg]

Cd`s quality is best. The studio work with mics and master to digital devices 
is most important. A good file to put on the plate.

Take care   

11. des. 2017 kl. 18:06 skrev E.T. :

  I have what is probably the equivalent of well over 700 cd's which adds up to 
almost 40gigs. That is nothing for most people I am sure. Digital content is 
definitely easy to manage.

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> On 12/10/2017 11:05 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> Angus,
>  ET does point out a big issue and that is space,
>  CD's do after a while start taking up storage space I've got my 200 sitting 
> in a cabinet where as my MP3 collection sits both in the cloud and on a 
> shared harddrive from one of my servers.
> So really it's up to what works for you.
> As Tim says, no reason that ripping cd's into mp3 will allow you to have 
> access to everything via airplay
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Monday, 11 December 2017 12:19 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iTunes Versus CDs
> Hi,
> With AirPlay and Bluetooth technologies nowadays, purchasing from iTunes 
> allows you to share your music with whoever you wish in full stereo or 
> surround sound.  All my music has either been ripped from CD, digitized from 
> LP, or purchased from iTunes.  All songs are able to be played through my two 
> audio receivers and one sound bar via AirPlay or through via Bluetooth to my 
> Bose Mini 2.  The audio quality from a CD vs the high quality iTunes format 
> is negligible unless you're using the digital outputs from the CD unit to the 
> receiver.  Even then, unless you're an audio-file, I'm not certain that most 
> people would notice the difference.
> So, in my opinion, after that long-winded reply, I'd probably choose the 
> iTunes version, but that's just my opinion.
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Dec 10, 2017, at 14:18, Mary Otten  wrote:
> The CD will have better Fidelity. It might cost more. You could always rip it 
> into iTunes at the best Fidelity your storage Will allow, then you get the 
> best of both.
> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Dec 10, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Karen Lewellen  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> While I fully respect your question, it is a bit open ended.
>> Do you mean technically? in terms of sitting in your living room with the 
>> adorable stereo of your choice, verses wearing small headphones not sharing 
>> the musical magic with anyone?
>> Just one interpretation.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin
>> or his background or his religion ... People must learn to hate, and
>> if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love... For love
>> comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite." Nelson
>> Mandela.
>> 
>>> On Sun, 10 Dec 2017, Angus MacKinnon wrote:
>>> 
>>> I Have been thinking of buying some albums off iTunes. I got to wondering 
>>> if their is an advantage of buying the CD. So, Is their any advantage of 
>>> buying an album versus buying an album fromm iTunes? Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Angus MacKinnon
>>> 
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