Re: right-clicking? (was installing World Jam Pack for Garage Band question
Hi Lou and all, I may have a work-around, but I need to know how to perform a right-click. Does anyone know how to do this? Apple has *really dropped the ball on this one, I'm kind of disgusted. TIA, Donna On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: > h. > > if it's coming up with a powerPC issue, I think I might have just hit the > nail on the head. > > this may actually be an issue with the media. as you're running lion, I've > heard of issues like this before and if memory serves me right, the only way > to bypass this is a complete manual extraction. > > just thinking something... that as OS X 10.7 has completely eliminated the > use of PowerPC code, apple's installer may be at fault. > > can you retry the installation and email me back? if you have skype and can > do screen sharing, I may be able to help that way. > > lew > > On 31 Dec 2011, at 17:27, Goodin, Donna wrote: > >> Hi Lou, >> >> I've got one of the newest MBAs. I'm running the most recent release of >> Lion, and also of GB, V 6.0.4. >> thanks for the help, >> Donna >> On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: >> >>> first off, you mention PowerPC. which mac do you have? what OS are you >>> running? what version of garageband / iLife are you using? >>> >>> there may be a workaround, >>> >>> >>> lew >>> >>> On 31 Dec 2011, at 17:20, Goodin, Donna wrote: >>> So how do I install it, then? Thanks, Donna On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:12 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: > the install will fail. > > the product was coded for intel systems. if I understand it right, the > new jam packs killed off powerpc support. > > lew > > On 31 Dec 2011, at 17:00, Goodin, Donna wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I just got the World Jam Pack for Christmas and am trying to install it. >> I tried to install it, but at the end of the install, I got an error >> pertaining to incompatibility with powerpc and saying something about >> being unable to open plisbuddy (whatever that is). The only way I could >> exit the screen was to shut down the computer. I'm trying to see if the >> install completed or not, Can someone please tell me how I would be >> able to tell? For example, iF it installed, I should have some new >> loops available. Can someone please tell me how I can view available >> loops? I'm a real GB newbie, so please give as detailed instructions as >> possible. >> TIA, >> Donna >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working > apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR > FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or > a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in > touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to > help anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> Mr. L. Alexander. >>> Free Macs For The Blind. >>> E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net >>> Direct line: 07936 877500 >>> Twitter: @macsfortheblind >>> >>> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working >>> apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR >>> FREE! >>> >>> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a >>> copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >
Re: right-clicking? (was installing World Jam Pack for Garage Band question
depending on where you are, you have the option of VO - SHIFT - M as a right click alternative. lew On 31 Dec 2011, at 18:02, Goodin, Donna wrote: > Hi Lou and all, > > I may have a work-around, but I need to know how to perform a right-click. > Does anyone know how to do this? Apple has *really dropped the ball on this > one, I'm kind of disgusted. > TIA, > Donna > On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: > >> h. >> >> if it's coming up with a powerPC issue, I think I might have just hit the >> nail on the head. >> >> this may actually be an issue with the media. as you're running lion, I've >> heard of issues like this before and if memory serves me right, the only way >> to bypass this is a complete manual extraction. >> >> just thinking something... that as OS X 10.7 has completely eliminated the >> use of PowerPC code, apple's installer may be at fault. >> >> can you retry the installation and email me back? if you have skype and can >> do screen sharing, I may be able to help that way. >> >> lew >> >> On 31 Dec 2011, at 17:27, Goodin, Donna wrote: >> >>> Hi Lou, >>> >>> I've got one of the newest MBAs. I'm running the most recent release of >>> Lion, and also of GB, V 6.0.4. >>> thanks for the help, >>> Donna >>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: >>> first off, you mention PowerPC. which mac do you have? what OS are you running? what version of garageband / iLife are you using? there may be a workaround, lew On 31 Dec 2011, at 17:20, Goodin, Donna wrote: > So how do I install it, then? > Thanks, > Donna > On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:12 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: > >> the install will fail. >> >> the product was coded for intel systems. if I understand it right, the >> new jam packs killed off powerpc support. >> >> lew >> >> On 31 Dec 2011, at 17:00, Goodin, Donna wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I just got the World Jam Pack for Christmas and am trying to install >>> it. I tried to install it, but at the end of the install, I got an >>> error pertaining to incompatibility with powerpc and saying something >>> about being unable to open plisbuddy (whatever that is). The only way >>> I could exit the screen was to shut down the computer. I'm trying to >>> see if the install completed or not, Can someone please tell me how I >>> would be able to tell? For example, iF it installed, I should have >>> some new loops available. Can someone please tell me how I can view >>> available loops? I'm a real GB newbie, so please give as detailed >>> instructions as possible. >>> TIA, >>> Donna >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net >> Direct line: 07936 877500 >> Twitter: @macsfortheblind >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working >> apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR >> FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc >> or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in >> touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to >> help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity
Re: right-clicking? (was installing World Jam Pack for Garage Band question
The keyboard and trackpad equivalent of right click is Control-Click where you hold down the Control key and click with the trackpad. Cheers, Anne On 31 Dec 2011, at 19:06, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: > depending on where you are, you have the option of VO - SHIFT - M as a right > click alternative. > > lew > > On 31 Dec 2011, at 18:02, Goodin, Donna wrote: > >> Hi Lou and all, >> >> I may have a work-around, but I need to know how to perform a right-click. >> Does anyone know how to do this? Apple has *really dropped the ball on this >> one, I'm kind of disgusted. >> TIA, >> Donna >> On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: >> >>> h. >>> >>> if it's coming up with a powerPC issue, I think I might have just hit the >>> nail on the head. >>> >>> this may actually be an issue with the media. as you're running lion, I've >>> heard of issues like this before and if memory serves me right, the only >>> way to bypass this is a complete manual extraction. >>> >>> just thinking something... that as OS X 10.7 has completely eliminated the >>> use of PowerPC code, apple's installer may be at fault. >>> >>> can you retry the installation and email me back? if you have skype and can >>> do screen sharing, I may be able to help that way. >>> >>> lew >>> >>> On 31 Dec 2011, at 17:27, Goodin, Donna wrote: >>> Hi Lou, I've got one of the newest MBAs. I'm running the most recent release of Lion, and also of GB, V 6.0.4. thanks for the help, Donna On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: > first off, you mention PowerPC. which mac do you have? what OS are you > running? what version of garageband / iLife are you using? > > there may be a workaround, > > > lew > > On 31 Dec 2011, at 17:20, Goodin, Donna wrote: > >> So how do I install it, then? >> Thanks, >> Donna >> On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:12 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: >> >>> the install will fail. >>> >>> the product was coded for intel systems. if I understand it right, the >>> new jam packs killed off powerpc support. >>> >>> lew >>> >>> On 31 Dec 2011, at 17:00, Goodin, Donna wrote: >>> Hi all, I just got the World Jam Pack for Christmas and am trying to install it. I tried to install it, but at the end of the install, I got an error pertaining to incompatibility with powerpc and saying something about being unable to open plisbuddy (whatever that is). The only way I could exit the screen was to shut down the computer. I'm trying to see if the install completed or not, Can someone please tell me how I would be able to tell? For example, iF it installed, I should have some new loops available. Can someone please tell me how I can view available loops? I'm a real GB newbie, so please give as detailed instructions as possible. TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> Mr. L. Alexander. >>> Free Macs For The Blind. >>> E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net >>> Direct line: 07936 877500 >>> Twitter: @macsfortheblind >>> >>> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but >>> working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout >>> the UK FOR FREE! >>> >>> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc >>> or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get >>> in touch. >>> >>> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here >>> to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >>> http://www.mac-access.net >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@g
Re: right-clicking? (was installing World Jam Pack for Garage Band question
figured that out. :) Thanks! Donna On Dec 31, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: > depending on where you are, you have the option of VO - SHIFT - M as a right > click alternative. > > lew > > On 31 Dec 2011, at 18:02, Goodin, Donna wrote: > >> Hi Lou and all, >> >> I may have a work-around, but I need to know how to perform a right-click. >> Does anyone know how to do this? Apple has *really dropped the ball on this >> one, I'm kind of disgusted. >> TIA, >> Donna >> On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: >> >>> h. >>> >>> if it's coming up with a powerPC issue, I think I might have just hit the >>> nail on the head. >>> >>> this may actually be an issue with the media. as you're running lion, I've >>> heard of issues like this before and if memory serves me right, the only >>> way to bypass this is a complete manual extraction. >>> >>> just thinking something... that as OS X 10.7 has completely eliminated the >>> use of PowerPC code, apple's installer may be at fault. >>> >>> can you retry the installation and email me back? if you have skype and can >>> do screen sharing, I may be able to help that way. >>> >>> lew >>> >>> On 31 Dec 2011, at 17:27, Goodin, Donna wrote: >>> Hi Lou, I've got one of the newest MBAs. I'm running the most recent release of Lion, and also of GB, V 6.0.4. thanks for the help, Donna On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: > first off, you mention PowerPC. which mac do you have? what OS are you > running? what version of garageband / iLife are you using? > > there may be a workaround, > > > lew > > On 31 Dec 2011, at 17:20, Goodin, Donna wrote: > >> So how do I install it, then? >> Thanks, >> Donna >> On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:12 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: >> >>> the install will fail. >>> >>> the product was coded for intel systems. if I understand it right, the >>> new jam packs killed off powerpc support. >>> >>> lew >>> >>> On 31 Dec 2011, at 17:00, Goodin, Donna wrote: >>> Hi all, I just got the World Jam Pack for Christmas and am trying to install it. I tried to install it, but at the end of the install, I got an error pertaining to incompatibility with powerpc and saying something about being unable to open plisbuddy (whatever that is). The only way I could exit the screen was to shut down the computer. I'm trying to see if the install completed or not, Can someone please tell me how I would be able to tell? For example, iF it installed, I should have some new loops available. Can someone please tell me how I can view available loops? I'm a real GB newbie, so please give as detailed instructions as possible. TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> Mr. L. Alexander. >>> Free Macs For The Blind. >>> E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net >>> Direct line: 07936 877500 >>> Twitter: @macsfortheblind >>> >>> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but >>> working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout >>> the UK FOR FREE! >>> >>> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc >>> or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get >>> in touch. >>> >>> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here >>> to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >>> http://www.mac-access.net >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionarie
Re: right-clicking? (was installing World Jam Pack for Garage Band question
Thanks, Anne. I knew there was something like that, but couldn't remember it and couldn't find it. Cheers, Donna On Dec 31, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > The keyboard and trackpad equivalent of right click is Control-Click where > you hold down the Control key and click with the trackpad. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 31 Dec 2011, at 19:06, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: > >> depending on where you are, you have the option of VO - SHIFT - M as a right >> click alternative. >> >> lew >> >> On 31 Dec 2011, at 18:02, Goodin, Donna wrote: >> >>> Hi Lou and all, >>> >>> I may have a work-around, but I need to know how to perform a right-click. >>> Does anyone know how to do this? Apple has *really dropped the ball on >>> this one, I'm kind of disgusted. >>> TIA, >>> Donna >>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: >>> h. if it's coming up with a powerPC issue, I think I might have just hit the nail on the head. this may actually be an issue with the media. as you're running lion, I've heard of issues like this before and if memory serves me right, the only way to bypass this is a complete manual extraction. just thinking something... that as OS X 10.7 has completely eliminated the use of PowerPC code, apple's installer may be at fault. can you retry the installation and email me back? if you have skype and can do screen sharing, I may be able to help that way. lew On 31 Dec 2011, at 17:27, Goodin, Donna wrote: > Hi Lou, > > I've got one of the newest MBAs. I'm running the most recent release of > Lion, and also of GB, V 6.0.4. > thanks for the help, > Donna > On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: > >> first off, you mention PowerPC. which mac do you have? what OS are you >> running? what version of garageband / iLife are you using? >> >> there may be a workaround, >> >> >> lew >> >> On 31 Dec 2011, at 17:20, Goodin, Donna wrote: >> >>> So how do I install it, then? >>> Thanks, >>> Donna >>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:12 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: >>> the install will fail. the product was coded for intel systems. if I understand it right, the new jam packs killed off powerpc support. lew On 31 Dec 2011, at 17:00, Goodin, Donna wrote: > Hi all, > > I just got the World Jam Pack for Christmas and am trying to install > it. I tried to install it, but at the end of the install, I got an > error pertaining to incompatibility with powerpc and saying something > about being unable to open plisbuddy (whatever that is). The only > way I could exit the screen was to shut down the computer. I'm > trying to see if the install completed or not, Can someone please > tell me how I would be able to tell? For example, iF it installed, > I should have some new loops available. Can someone please tell me > how I can view available loops? I'm a real GB newbie, so please give > as detailed instructions as possible. > TIA, > Donna > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: right-clicking? (was installing World Jam Pack for Garage Band question
lol oops sorry. having an absent moment lol. rushed off my feet trying to sort out stock for the free macs for the blind charity. getting proposals together for suppliers who could be of use. lew On 31 Dec 2011, at 18:29, Goodin, Donna wrote: > figured that out. :) Thanks! > Donna > On Dec 31, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: > >> depending on where you are, you have the option of VO - SHIFT - M as a right >> click alternative. >> >> lew >> >> On 31 Dec 2011, at 18:02, Goodin, Donna wrote: >> >>> Hi Lou and all, >>> >>> I may have a work-around, but I need to know how to perform a right-click. >>> Does anyone know how to do this? Apple has *really dropped the ball on >>> this one, I'm kind of disgusted. >>> TIA, >>> Donna >>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: >>> h. if it's coming up with a powerPC issue, I think I might have just hit the nail on the head. this may actually be an issue with the media. as you're running lion, I've heard of issues like this before and if memory serves me right, the only way to bypass this is a complete manual extraction. just thinking something... that as OS X 10.7 has completely eliminated the use of PowerPC code, apple's installer may be at fault. can you retry the installation and email me back? if you have skype and can do screen sharing, I may be able to help that way. lew On 31 Dec 2011, at 17:27, Goodin, Donna wrote: > Hi Lou, > > I've got one of the newest MBAs. I'm running the most recent release of > Lion, and also of GB, V 6.0.4. > thanks for the help, > Donna > On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: > >> first off, you mention PowerPC. which mac do you have? what OS are you >> running? what version of garageband / iLife are you using? >> >> there may be a workaround, >> >> >> lew >> >> On 31 Dec 2011, at 17:20, Goodin, Donna wrote: >> >>> So how do I install it, then? >>> Thanks, >>> Donna >>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:12 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: >>> the install will fail. the product was coded for intel systems. if I understand it right, the new jam packs killed off powerpc support. lew On 31 Dec 2011, at 17:00, Goodin, Donna wrote: > Hi all, > > I just got the World Jam Pack for Christmas and am trying to install > it. I tried to install it, but at the end of the install, I got an > error pertaining to incompatibility with powerpc and saying something > about being unable to open plisbuddy (whatever that is). The only > way I could exit the screen was to shut down the computer. I'm > trying to see if the install completed or not, Can someone please > tell me how I would be able to tell? For example, iF it installed, > I should have some new loops available. Can someone please tell me > how I can view available loops? I'm a real GB newbie, so please give > as detailed instructions as possible. > TIA, > Donna > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You re