Re: Reading iMac specs

2014-08-04 Thread Alex Hall
Quad core means you have four cores, whereas most Macs have two cores. While 
you'd think at first that this would double the speed of the computer, that 
doesn't actually happen. A quad core is great if you have software that can 
take advantage of it, but most software is not optimized for so many cores and 
so the speed gains will be not very impressive. There will be gains, but 
nothing like you might be imagining. Most people get along on dual core 
processors just fine; the big factors are the clock speed (the gigahertz) and 
how much ram the computer has. Graphics are also a consideration, but not as 
big of one.
On Aug 4, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> Let me throw another question into the mix.
> 
> I'm also reading Intel Quad Core; I take it that is a lot faster than Intel 
> Core?
> 
> Currently I'm reading used iMacs via a local Northwest store called "The Mac 
> Store."
> 
> Thank you,
> Traci
> 
> On Aug 4, 2014, at 7:39 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Yes, you are correct, although, the newer iMacs are similarly necessary to 
>> pre-configure.  If they are looking on the Apple Web-site where the 
>> refurbished Macs are located, many of these fit the newer category, within 
>> the last 1. years or so, thus, the likelihood of it being changeable RAM is 
>> much lower.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:53 PM, Cameron Strife  wrote:
>> 
>>> I believe the poster was asking about used/refurb iMacs and not retina
>>> display mac book pros.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/3/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Actually, it is no longer easy to upgrade the RAM on your Mac.  With the
 introduction of the Retina Displays, you must choose your RAM when you
 either order or choose your Mac.  The RAM is soldered in now and is,
 essentially, not changeable.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Aug 3, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Cameron Strife 
 wrote:
 
> Also, keep in mind that on most macs, it is pretty easy to upgrade the
> ram yourself. Just something to consider.
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/3/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It kind of all depends on your needs.  The i3 processor is considerably
>> slower than the i5 and vastly slower than the i7.  Yes, the speed is
>> deceiving.  The i7 processor with the slower noted speed will likely
>> perform
>> faster than the i5 processor at 3.6 GHz.  Most of the MacBook Airs come
>> with
>> the i3 process and many people find them fast enough for their needs.
>> The
>> faster the processor and the more RAM that you have, the longer your
>> machine
>> will be practical for you, as long as its hardware doesn't fail.  Why I
>> say
>> this, is that as new apps and even more importantly, new MacOS's are
>> released, they tend to require more power to perform well.  So, if you
>> have
>> the better processor and more RAM, the machine should last you longer
>> before
>> you need to spend again on a new computer.  You also require better
>> processing power when your machine has a more powerful video card.  All
>> these components talk to each other and there are numerous processors
>> within
>> the computer, so, more graphics processing means more info to the main
>> CPU
>> thus better processing power is recommended.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'm reading used iMac listings, and I'd like some help figuring out
>>> specs.
>>> 
>>> Intel Core I5/3.6 GHz, 4 GB of Ram
>>> Intel Core I5/2.7 GHz, 16 GB of Ram
>>> Intel Core I3/3.2 GHz, 16 GB of Ram
>>> 
>>> That is just a very small sampling.  In which order of importance should
>>> I
>>> pay attention to the numbers?  Is the Core iNumber the most important?
>>> How about the GHz number?  It is hard to believe we now have machines
>>> with
>>> 12&16 GB of Ram.
>>> 
>>> I haven't even given you guys the video specs.  Maybe you can offer up
>>> some guidance on those.
>>> 
>>> It is confusing when the Core iNumber goes down, but the GHz number
>>> goes
>>> up.  What is a good balance?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any help,
>>> Traci
>>> 
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Re: Reading iMac specs

2014-08-04 Thread Traci Duncan
Hi guys,

Let me throw another question into the mix.

I'm also reading Intel Quad Core; I take it that is a lot faster than Intel 
Core?

Currently I'm reading used iMacs via a local Northwest store called "The Mac 
Store."

Thank you,
Traci

On Aug 4, 2014, at 7:39 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Yes, you are correct, although, the newer iMacs are similarly necessary to 
> pre-configure.  If they are looking on the Apple Web-site where the 
> refurbished Macs are located, many of these fit the newer category, within 
> the last 1. years or so, thus, the likelihood of it being changeable RAM is 
> much lower.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:53 PM, Cameron Strife  wrote:
> 
>> I believe the poster was asking about used/refurb iMacs and not retina
>> display mac book pros.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/3/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Actually, it is no longer easy to upgrade the RAM on your Mac.  With the
>>> introduction of the Retina Displays, you must choose your RAM when you
>>> either order or choose your Mac.  The RAM is soldered in now and is,
>>> essentially, not changeable.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Cameron Strife 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Also, keep in mind that on most macs, it is pretty easy to upgrade the
 ram yourself. Just something to consider.
 
 
 
 On 8/3/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It kind of all depends on your needs.  The i3 processor is considerably
> slower than the i5 and vastly slower than the i7.  Yes, the speed is
> deceiving.  The i7 processor with the slower noted speed will likely
> perform
> faster than the i5 processor at 3.6 GHz.  Most of the MacBook Airs come
> with
> the i3 process and many people find them fast enough for their needs.
> The
> faster the processor and the more RAM that you have, the longer your
> machine
> will be practical for you, as long as its hardware doesn't fail.  Why I
> say
> this, is that as new apps and even more importantly, new MacOS's are
> released, they tend to require more power to perform well.  So, if you
> have
> the better processor and more RAM, the machine should last you longer
> before
> you need to spend again on a new computer.  You also require better
> processing power when your machine has a more powerful video card.  All
> these components talk to each other and there are numerous processors
> within
> the computer, so, more graphics processing means more info to the main
> CPU
> thus better processing power is recommended.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm reading used iMac listings, and I'd like some help figuring out
>> specs.
>> 
>> Intel Core I5/3.6 GHz, 4 GB of Ram
>> Intel Core I5/2.7 GHz, 16 GB of Ram
>> Intel Core I3/3.2 GHz, 16 GB of Ram
>> 
>> That is just a very small sampling.  In which order of importance should
>> I
>> pay attention to the numbers?  Is the Core iNumber the most important?
>> How about the GHz number?  It is hard to believe we now have machines
>> with
>> 12&16 GB of Ram.
>> 
>> I haven't even given you guys the video specs.  Maybe you can offer up
>> some guidance on those.
>> 
>> It is confusing when the Core iNumber goes down, but the GHz number
>> goes
>> up.  What is a good balance?
>> 
>> Thanks for any help,
>> Traci
>> 
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Re: Reading iMac specs

2014-08-04 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Yes, you are correct, although, the newer iMacs are similarly necessary to 
pre-configure.  If they are looking on the Apple Web-site where the refurbished 
Macs are located, many of these fit the newer category, within the last 1. 
years or so, thus, the likelihood of it being changeable RAM is much lower.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:53 PM, Cameron Strife  wrote:

> I believe the poster was asking about used/refurb iMacs and not retina
> display mac book pros.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/3/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Actually, it is no longer easy to upgrade the RAM on your Mac.  With the
>> introduction of the Retina Displays, you must choose your RAM when you
>> either order or choose your Mac.  The RAM is soldered in now and is,
>> essentially, not changeable.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Aug 3, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Cameron Strife 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Also, keep in mind that on most macs, it is pretty easy to upgrade the
>>> ram yourself. Just something to consider.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/3/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 Hi,
 
 It kind of all depends on your needs.  The i3 processor is considerably
 slower than the i5 and vastly slower than the i7.  Yes, the speed is
 deceiving.  The i7 processor with the slower noted speed will likely
 perform
 faster than the i5 processor at 3.6 GHz.  Most of the MacBook Airs come
 with
 the i3 process and many people find them fast enough for their needs.
 The
 faster the processor and the more RAM that you have, the longer your
 machine
 will be practical for you, as long as its hardware doesn't fail.  Why I
 say
 this, is that as new apps and even more importantly, new MacOS's are
 released, they tend to require more power to perform well.  So, if you
 have
 the better processor and more RAM, the machine should last you longer
 before
 you need to spend again on a new computer.  You also require better
 processing power when your machine has a more powerful video card.  All
 these components talk to each other and there are numerous processors
 within
 the computer, so, more graphics processing means more info to the main
 CPU
 thus better processing power is recommended.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm reading used iMac listings, and I'd like some help figuring out
> specs.
> 
> Intel Core I5/3.6 GHz, 4 GB of Ram
> Intel Core I5/2.7 GHz, 16 GB of Ram
> Intel Core I3/3.2 GHz, 16 GB of Ram
> 
> That is just a very small sampling.  In which order of importance should
> I
> pay attention to the numbers?  Is the Core iNumber the most important?
> How about the GHz number?  It is hard to believe we now have machines
> with
> 12&16 GB of Ram.
> 
> I haven't even given you guys the video specs.  Maybe you can offer up
> some guidance on those.
> 
> It is confusing when the Core iNumber goes down, but the GHz number
> goes
> up.  What is a good balance?
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> Traci
> 
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Re: Reading iMac specs

2014-08-03 Thread Cameron Strife
I believe the poster was asking about used/refurb iMacs and not retina
display mac book pros.





On 8/3/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Actually, it is no longer easy to upgrade the RAM on your Mac.  With the
> introduction of the Retina Displays, you must choose your RAM when you
> either order or choose your Mac.  The RAM is soldered in now and is,
> essentially, not changeable.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Aug 3, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Cameron Strife 
> wrote:
>
>> Also, keep in mind that on most macs, it is pretty easy to upgrade the
>> ram yourself. Just something to consider.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/3/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> It kind of all depends on your needs.  The i3 processor is considerably
>>> slower than the i5 and vastly slower than the i7.  Yes, the speed is
>>> deceiving.  The i7 processor with the slower noted speed will likely
>>> perform
>>> faster than the i5 processor at 3.6 GHz.  Most of the MacBook Airs come
>>> with
>>> the i3 process and many people find them fast enough for their needs.
>>> The
>>> faster the processor and the more RAM that you have, the longer your
>>> machine
>>> will be practical for you, as long as its hardware doesn't fail.  Why I
>>> say
>>> this, is that as new apps and even more importantly, new MacOS's are
>>> released, they tend to require more power to perform well.  So, if you
>>> have
>>> the better processor and more RAM, the machine should last you longer
>>> before
>>> you need to spend again on a new computer.  You also require better
>>> processing power when your machine has a more powerful video card.  All
>>> these components talk to each other and there are numerous processors
>>> within
>>> the computer, so, more graphics processing means more info to the main
>>> CPU
>>> thus better processing power is recommended.
>>>
>>> HTH.
>>>
>>> Later...
>>>
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 I'm reading used iMac listings, and I'd like some help figuring out
 specs.

 Intel Core I5/3.6 GHz, 4 GB of Ram
 Intel Core I5/2.7 GHz, 16 GB of Ram
 Intel Core I3/3.2 GHz, 16 GB of Ram

 That is just a very small sampling.  In which order of importance should
 I
 pay attention to the numbers?  Is the Core iNumber the most important?
 How about the GHz number?  It is hard to believe we now have machines
 with
 12&16 GB of Ram.

 I haven't even given you guys the video specs.  Maybe you can offer up
 some guidance on those.

 It is confusing when the Core iNumber goes down, but the GHz number
 goes
 up.  What is a good balance?

 Thanks for any help,
 Traci

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Re: Reading iMac specs

2014-08-03 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Actually, it is no longer easy to upgrade the RAM on your Mac.  With the 
introduction of the Retina Displays, you must choose your RAM when you either 
order or choose your Mac.  The RAM is soldered in now and is, essentially, not 
changeable.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 3, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Cameron Strife  wrote:

> Also, keep in mind that on most macs, it is pretty easy to upgrade the
> ram yourself. Just something to consider.
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/3/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It kind of all depends on your needs.  The i3 processor is considerably
>> slower than the i5 and vastly slower than the i7.  Yes, the speed is
>> deceiving.  The i7 processor with the slower noted speed will likely perform
>> faster than the i5 processor at 3.6 GHz.  Most of the MacBook Airs come with
>> the i3 process and many people find them fast enough for their needs.  The
>> faster the processor and the more RAM that you have, the longer your machine
>> will be practical for you, as long as its hardware doesn't fail.  Why I say
>> this, is that as new apps and even more importantly, new MacOS's are
>> released, they tend to require more power to perform well.  So, if you have
>> the better processor and more RAM, the machine should last you longer before
>> you need to spend again on a new computer.  You also require better
>> processing power when your machine has a more powerful video card.  All
>> these components talk to each other and there are numerous processors within
>> the computer, so, more graphics processing means more info to the main CPU
>> thus better processing power is recommended.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'm reading used iMac listings, and I'd like some help figuring out
>>> specs.
>>> 
>>> Intel Core I5/3.6 GHz, 4 GB of Ram
>>> Intel Core I5/2.7 GHz, 16 GB of Ram
>>> Intel Core I3/3.2 GHz, 16 GB of Ram
>>> 
>>> That is just a very small sampling.  In which order of importance should I
>>> pay attention to the numbers?  Is the Core iNumber the most important?
>>> How about the GHz number?  It is hard to believe we now have machines with
>>> 12&16 GB of Ram.
>>> 
>>> I haven't even given you guys the video specs.  Maybe you can offer up
>>> some guidance on those.
>>> 
>>> It is confusing when the Core iNumber goes down, but the GHz number goes
>>> up.  What is a good balance?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any help,
>>> Traci
>>> 
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Re: Reading iMac specs

2014-08-03 Thread Cameron Strife
Also, keep in mind that on most macs, it is pretty easy to upgrade the
ram yourself. Just something to consider.



On 8/3/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It kind of all depends on your needs.  The i3 processor is considerably
> slower than the i5 and vastly slower than the i7.  Yes, the speed is
> deceiving.  The i7 processor with the slower noted speed will likely perform
> faster than the i5 processor at 3.6 GHz.  Most of the MacBook Airs come with
> the i3 process and many people find them fast enough for their needs.  The
> faster the processor and the more RAM that you have, the longer your machine
> will be practical for you, as long as its hardware doesn't fail.  Why I say
> this, is that as new apps and even more importantly, new MacOS's are
> released, they tend to require more power to perform well.  So, if you have
> the better processor and more RAM, the machine should last you longer before
> you need to spend again on a new computer.  You also require better
> processing power when your machine has a more powerful video card.  All
> these components talk to each other and there are numerous processors within
> the computer, so, more graphics processing means more info to the main CPU
> thus better processing power is recommended.
>
> HTH.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm reading used iMac listings, and I'd like some help figuring out
>> specs.
>>
>> Intel Core I5/3.6 GHz, 4 GB of Ram
>> Intel Core I5/2.7 GHz, 16 GB of Ram
>> Intel Core I3/3.2 GHz, 16 GB of Ram
>>
>> That is just a very small sampling.  In which order of importance should I
>> pay attention to the numbers?  Is the Core iNumber the most important?
>> How about the GHz number?  It is hard to believe we now have machines with
>> 12&16 GB of Ram.
>>
>> I haven't even given you guys the video specs.  Maybe you can offer up
>> some guidance on those.
>>
>> It is confusing when the Core iNumber goes down, but the GHz number goes
>> up.  What is a good balance?
>>
>> Thanks for any help,
>> Traci
>>
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Re: Reading iMac specs

2014-08-03 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

It kind of all depends on your needs.  The i3 processor is considerably slower 
than the i5 and vastly slower than the i7.  Yes, the speed is deceiving.  The 
i7 processor with the slower noted speed will likely perform faster than the i5 
processor at 3.6 GHz.  Most of the MacBook Airs come with the i3 process and 
many people find them fast enough for their needs.  The faster the processor 
and the more RAM that you have, the longer your machine will be practical for 
you, as long as its hardware doesn't fail.  Why I say this, is that as new apps 
and even more importantly, new MacOS's are released, they tend to require more 
power to perform well.  So, if you have the better processor and more RAM, the 
machine should last you longer before you need to spend again on a new 
computer.  You also require better processing power when your machine has a 
more powerful video card.  All these components talk to each other and there 
are numerous processors within the computer, so, more graphics processing means 
more info to the main CPU thus better processing power is recommended.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm reading used iMac listings, and I'd like some help figuring out specs.
> 
> Intel Core I5/3.6 GHz, 4 GB of Ram
> Intel Core I5/2.7 GHz, 16 GB of Ram
> Intel Core I3/3.2 GHz, 16 GB of Ram
> 
> That is just a very small sampling.  In which order of importance should I 
> pay attention to the numbers?  Is the Core iNumber the most important?  How 
> about the GHz number?  It is hard to believe we now have machines with 12&16 
> GB of Ram.
> 
> I haven't even given you guys the video specs.  Maybe you can offer up some 
> guidance on those.
> 
> It is confusing when the Core iNumber goes down, but the GHz number goes up.  
> What is a good balance?
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> Traci
> 
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Reading iMac specs

2014-08-03 Thread Traci Duncan
Hi all,

I'm reading used iMac listings, and I'd like some help figuring out specs.

Intel Core I5/3.6 GHz, 4 GB of Ram
Intel Core I5/2.7 GHz, 16 GB of Ram
Intel Core I3/3.2 GHz, 16 GB of Ram

That is just a very small sampling.  In which order of importance should I pay 
attention to the numbers?  Is the Core iNumber the most important?  How about 
the GHz number?  It is hard to believe we now have machines with 12&16 GB of 
Ram.

I haven't even given you guys the video specs.  Maybe you can offer up some 
guidance on those.

It is confusing when the Core iNumber goes down, but the GHz number goes up.  
What is a good balance?

Thanks for any help,
Traci

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