RE: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-07-25 Thread Simon Fogarty 
Is anyone else finding the  two finger swipe up is not working correctly?

 I'm on a 7+ and finding this to be an issue in the current beta releses.

 Although I can't get it confirmed it's like it works but only on the left hand 
edge of the screen but it doesn't work in the middle of the screen, although my 
testing has been mixed with this.

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Subject: Re: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as 
intentional change

In Public Beta 2 the app switcher has been reversed to its original positioning 
with most recently opened app on the far right. Also the 4-finger swipe to 
change apps has been restored. Yay!
> On Jul 23, 2017, at 11:33 PM, Singing Sparrow  wrote:
> 
> in the public beta 2 i believe this button is also still there.
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/1/2017 12:52 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Button is still there in IOS 11 public beta 1.
>> 
>> Touch to return to call is also similarly placed.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2017, at 9:29 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The impression I got from the article was that this button goes away in 
>>> ios11. 11. Maybe I misunderstood what I read. I hope I did, because I use 
>>> that a lot. And I'm aware of the app switcher. I'm also aware that the home 
>>> button is apparently going away completely in terms of a physical feelable 
>>> button on the next phone. So it will be interesting how Apple makes that 
>>> easily findable with VO.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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 Mary,
 When you go into a link from an e-mail, there is a return to mail button 
 in the top left corner.  As far as returning to a previous app is 
 concerned, we have an app switcher for that.
 
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Re: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-07-24 Thread Jenine Stanley 
In Public Beta 2 the app switcher has been reversed to its original positioning 
with most recently opened app on the far right. Also the 4-finger swipe to 
change apps has been restored. Yay!
> On Jul 23, 2017, at 11:33 PM, Singing Sparrow  wrote:
> 
> in the public beta 2 i believe this button is also still there.
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/1/2017 12:52 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Button is still there in IOS 11 public beta 1.
>> 
>> Touch to return to call is also similarly placed.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2017, at 9:29 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The impression I got from the article was that this button goes away in 
>>> ios11. 11. Maybe I misunderstood what I read. I hope I did, because I use 
>>> that a lot. And I'm aware of the app switcher. I'm also aware that the home 
>>> button is apparently going away completely in terms of a physical feelable 
>>> button on the next phone. So it will be interesting how Apple makes that 
>>> easily findable with VO.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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Re: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-07-23 Thread Singing Sparrow 

in the public beta 2 i believe this button is also still there.



On 7/1/2017 12:52 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Button is still there in IOS 11 public beta 1.

Touch to return to call is also similarly placed.




On Jun 30, 2017, at 9:29 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

The impression I got from the article was that this button goes away in ios11. 
11. Maybe I misunderstood what I read. I hope I did, because I use that a lot. 
And I'm aware of the app switcher. I'm also aware that the home button is 
apparently going away completely in terms of a physical feelable button on the 
next phone. So it will be interesting how Apple makes that easily findable with 
VO.

Sent from my iPhone


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Mary,
When you go into a link from an e-mail, there is a return to mail button in the 
top left corner.  As far as returning to a previous app is concerned, we have 
an app switcher for that.

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Re: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-07-03 Thread Scott Davert 
I think what's happening with the 4-finger swype is that the phone is
doing a springboard reset for some reason. Too bad, as I just now have
the ability to set up custom commands in braille to actually utilize
this feature. Oh well, I've reported this one along with all of the
others I wrote about before to Apple. Hopefully others are also filing
reports. (smiles).

Scott

On 7/3/17, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 3, 2017, at 12:15 AM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
>>
>> 4-finger swipe left/right to switch apps and 3D touch on left edge for app
>> switcher don’t seem to work in iOS 11 beta.
>> The return to last app and phone call buttons, as well as double-press
>> HOME button for app switcher still work.
>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 9:24 AM Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> I know, your android devices will tell you when you hit the home button.
>>> It's just slower. I have two of them, and it's definitely slower.
>>> Mary
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Jul 2, 2017, at 8:58 AM, Saqib Hussain 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi. I can’t see it as a problem as my Android devices don’t have a home
>>> > button and Talkback will tell you when your finger is on the home
>>> > button.
>>> >> On 1 Jul 2017, at 02:29, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> The impression I got from the article was that this button goes away
>>> >> in ios11. 11. Maybe I misunderstood what I read. I hope I did, because
>>> >> I use that a lot. And I'm aware of the app switcher. I'm also aware
>>> >> that the home button is apparently going away completely in terms of a
>>> >> physical feelable button on the next phone. So it will be interesting
>>> >> how Apple makes that easily findable with VO.
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>
>>> >>> On Jun 30, 2017, at 6:24 PM, Chris Moore 
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Mary,
>>> >>> When you go into a link from an e-mail, there is a return to mail
>>> >>> button in the top left corner.  As far as returning to a previous app
>>> >>> is concerned, we have an app switcher for that.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Chris
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Re: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-07-03 Thread Daniel Miller 


Sent from my iPhone  

> On Jul 3, 2017, at 12:15 AM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
> 
> 4-finger swipe left/right to switch apps and 3D touch on left edge for app 
> switcher don’t seem to work in iOS 11 beta.
> The return to last app and phone call buttons, as well as double-press HOME 
> button for app switcher still work.
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 9:24 AM Mary Otten  wrote:
>> I know, your android devices will tell you when you hit the home button. 
>> It's just slower. I have two of them, and it's definitely slower.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Jul 2, 2017, at 8:58 AM, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi. I can’t see it as a problem as my Android devices don’t have a home 
>> > button and Talkback will tell you when your finger is on the home button.
>> >> On 1 Jul 2017, at 02:29, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The impression I got from the article was that this button goes away in 
>> >> ios11. 11. Maybe I misunderstood what I read. I hope I did, because I use 
>> >> that a lot. And I'm aware of the app switcher. I'm also aware that the 
>> >> home button is apparently going away completely in terms of a physical 
>> >> feelable button on the next phone. So it will be interesting how Apple 
>> >> makes that easily findable with VO.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>> On Jun 30, 2017, at 6:24 PM, Chris Moore  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Mary,
>> >>> When you go into a link from an e-mail, there is a return to mail button 
>> >>> in the top left corner.  As far as returning to a previous app is 
>> >>> concerned, we have an app switcher for that.
>> >>>
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Re: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-07-02 Thread Kevin Chao 
4-finger swipe left/right to switch apps and 3D touch on left edge for app
switcher don’t seem to work in iOS 11 beta.
The return to last app and phone call buttons, as well as double-press HOME
button for app switcher still work.

On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 9:24 AM Mary Otten  wrote:

> I know, your android devices will tell you when you hit the home button.
> It's just slower. I have two of them, and it's definitely slower.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 2, 2017, at 8:58 AM, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
> >
> > Hi. I can’t see it as a problem as my Android devices don’t have a home
> button and Talkback will tell you when your finger is on the home button.
> >> On 1 Jul 2017, at 02:29, Mary Otten  wrote:
> >>
> >> The impression I got from the article was that this button goes away in
> ios11. 11. Maybe I misunderstood what I read. I hope I did, because I use
> that a lot. And I'm aware of the app switcher. I'm also aware that the home
> button is apparently going away completely in terms of a physical feelable
> button on the next phone. So it will be interesting how Apple makes that
> easily findable with VO.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jun 30, 2017, at 6:24 PM, Chris Moore  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Mary,
> >>> When you go into a link from an e-mail, there is a return to mail
> button in the top left corner.  As far as returning to a previous app is
> concerned, we have an app switcher for that.
> >>>
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Re: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-07-02 Thread Mary Otten 
I know, your android devices will tell you when you hit the home button. It's 
just slower. I have two of them, and it's definitely slower.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

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> button and Talkback will tell you when your finger is on the home button. 
>> On 1 Jul 2017, at 02:29, Mary Otten  wrote:
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>> The impression I got from the article was that this button goes away in 
>> ios11. 11. Maybe I misunderstood what I read. I hope I did, because I use 
>> that a lot. And I'm aware of the app switcher. I'm also aware that the home 
>> button is apparently going away completely in terms of a physical feelable 
>> button on the next phone. So it will be interesting how Apple makes that 
>> easily findable with VO.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> When you go into a link from an e-mail, there is a return to mail button in 
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Re: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-07-02 Thread Saqib Hussain 
Hi. I can’t see it as a problem as my Android devices don’t have a home button 
and Talkback will tell you when your finger is on the home button. 
> On 1 Jul 2017, at 02:29, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> The impression I got from the article was that this button goes away in 
> ios11. 11. Maybe I misunderstood what I read. I hope I did, because I use 
> that a lot. And I'm aware of the app switcher. I'm also aware that the home 
> button is apparently going away completely in terms of a physical feelable 
> button on the next phone. So it will be interesting how Apple makes that 
> easily findable with VO.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> 
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>> When you go into a link from an e-mail, there is a return to mail button in 
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>> have an app switcher for that.
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Re: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-06-30 Thread Scott Granados 
Button is still there in IOS 11 public beta 1.

Touch to return to call is also similarly placed.



> On Jun 30, 2017, at 9:29 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> The impression I got from the article was that this button goes away in 
> ios11. 11. Maybe I misunderstood what I read. I hope I did, because I use 
> that a lot. And I'm aware of the app switcher. I'm also aware that the home 
> button is apparently going away completely in terms of a physical feelable 
> button on the next phone. So it will be interesting how Apple makes that 
> easily findable with VO.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2017, at 6:24 PM, Chris Moore  wrote:
>> 
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>> When you go into a link from an e-mail, there is a return to mail button in 
>> the top left corner.  As far as returning to a previous app is concerned, we 
>> have an app switcher for that.
>> 
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Re: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-06-30 Thread Mary Otten 
Yes, and the dock has a whole lot more capabilities than it used to. So maybe 
they figure with this new fancy dock, the other thing is it so important.  
Admittedly, it won't work on older phones because they don't have 3D Touch. But 
there are more that do now than than before. I guess the iPad still doesn't 
have it though. Maybe that's why they got rid of it. Who knows?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi mary,
>  
> Thanks for this.
>  
> Does anyone else think this is bloody stupid considering multitasking is one 
> of the features apple was pushing for the newer devices and os’s
>  
> But I do see that the app switcher using the double tapping of the home 
> button is still there.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Saturday, 1 July 2017 11:59 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as 
> intentional change
>  
> Well, this is from a public source. So hopefully it's OK to post here. 
> Bummer. This and the loss of the ability to return to the previous app you 
> were in from another app or unfortunate. I use that last feature a lot to go 
> back to mail when I've gone to a website. I wonder why they're doing this.
> Mary
> 
> Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional 
> change
> 9to5Mac  /  Benjamin Mayo
> 
> 
> 
> Whilst iOS 11 includes a lot of new stuff to enjoy, there are also a few 
> features that have been left behind. One such example is a lesser-known 3D 
> Touch gesture that enabled faster access to the iPhone app switcher and a 
> quick shortcut to move back to the previous app. Both of these elements are 
> no longer present in iOS 11 and a bug report appears to confirm that this was 
> an intentional removal rather than an outstanding bug.
> 
> Bryan Irace filed a Radar about the removal of the 3D Touch convenience 
> gesture and posted the Apple engineer’s reply on Twitter.
> 
> Short but sweet, it unfortunately states that the feature has been removed on 
> purpose and will not be returning: ‘Please know that this feature was 
> intentionally removed.’
> 
> In case you aren’t aware exactly what feature we are referencing, try it out 
> for yourself: on an iOS 10 device with 3D Touch, iPhone 6s or iPhone 7, press 
> deeply at the left edge of the screen to open the app switcher.
> 
> Instead of lifting immediately, drag across to seamlessly switch from the 
> current app to the previous one. This was much faster than double-tapping the 
> Home Button and dragging between open app ‘cards’, but will simply stop 
> working when users upgrade to iOS 11.
> 
> Apple engineering has confirmed that 3D Touch multitasking was intentionally 
> removed in iOS 11. I am livid. pic.twitter.com/kiCcLq9XMB
> 
> — Bryan Irace (@irace) June 30, 2017
> 
> You can see Craig Federighi demo the gesture at the original iPhone 6s event 
> below, which heralded 3D Touch as a marquee feature. It’s fair to say that 
> the functionality was not a critical part of the iOS experience; it was meant 
> as a power user shortcut to a very common action.
> 
> It’s unclear why Apple would remove something that was so useful — perhaps it 
> interferes with the gestures of the upcoming bezel-less iPhone 8 somehow, 
> although it’s hard to envision how it might clash.
> 
> [embedded content]
> 
> 
> 
> Original Article: 
> https://9to5mac.com/2017/06/30/ios-11-3d-touch-app-switching-gesture-removed/
> 
> 
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RE: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-06-30 Thread Simon Fogarty 
Hi mary,

Thanks for this.

Does anyone else think this is bloody stupid considering multitasking is one of 
the features apple was pushing for the newer devices and os’s

But I do see that the app switcher using the double tapping of the home button 
is still there.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, 1 July 2017 11:59 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as 
intentional change

Well, this is from a public source. So hopefully it's OK to post here. Bummer. 
This and the loss of the ability to return to the previous app you were in from 
another app or unfortunate. I use that last feature a lot to go back to mail 
when I've gone to a website. I wonder why they're doing this.
Mary
Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional 
change
9to5Mac  /  Benjamin Mayo


[https://9to5mac.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/3d-touch-ios-10-removed.jpg?quality=82=all=1600=799]

Whilst iOS 11 includes a lot of new stuff to enjoy, there are also a few 
features that have been left behind. One such example is a lesser-known 3D 
Touch gesture that enabled faster access to the iPhone app switcher and a quick 
shortcut to move back to the previous app. Both of these elements are no longer 
present in iOS 11 and a bug report appears to confirm that this was an 
intentional removal rather than an outstanding bug.

Bryan Irace filed a Radar about the removal of the 3D Touch convenience gesture 
and posted the Apple engineer’s reply on 
Twitter.

Short but sweet, it unfortunately states that the feature has been removed on 
purpose and will not be returning: ‘Please know that this feature was 
intentionally removed.’

In case you aren’t aware exactly what feature we are referencing, try it out 
for yourself: on an iOS 10 device with 3D Touch, iPhone 6s or iPhone 7, press 
deeply at the left edge of the screen to open the app switcher.

Instead of lifting immediately, drag across to seamlessly switch from the 
current app to the previous one. This was much faster than double-tapping the 
Home Button and dragging between open app ‘cards’, but will simply stop working 
when users upgrade to iOS 11.

Apple engineering has confirmed that 3D Touch multitasking was intentionally 
removed in iOS 11. I am livid. 
pic.twitter.com/kiCcLq9XMB

— Bryan Irace (@irace) June 30, 
2017

You can see Craig Federighi demo the gesture at the original iPhone 6s event 
below, which heralded 3D Touch as a marquee feature. It’s fair to say that the 
functionality was not a critical part of the iOS experience; it was meant as a 
power user shortcut to a very common action.

It’s unclear why Apple would remove something that was so useful — perhaps it 
interferes with the gestures of the upcoming bezel-less iPhone 8 somehow, 
although it’s hard to envision how it might clash.

[embedded content]


Original Article: 
https://9to5mac.com/2017/06/30/ios-11-3d-touch-app-switching-gesture-removed/


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RE: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-06-30 Thread gary-melconian 
I bbeg to differ with you mary on the competition not having x or y. you have 
not  have  time  to play with the android o preview on the competition latform 
so I wonder how you can come to your conclusions on  whathe completion has or 
does not have in their products .i don’t jump to conclusions on things that I 
have not tried on I o s 11. So I would much rather wait and see what each 
platform has before jumping to conclusions. There are things cooking on both 
platform for all of  us to enjoy in the long run. That’s  what I like about 
compepition. One comes with an innovative mouse trap and the other counters 
with a better mouse trap. It’s this competition  which makes our lives great on 
both platforms.  

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Re: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-06-30 Thread Mary Otten 
The impression I got from the article was that this button goes away in ios11. 
11. Maybe I misunderstood what I read. I hope I did, because I use that a lot. 
And I'm aware of the app switcher. I'm also aware that the home button is 
apparently going away completely in terms of a physical feelable button on the 
next phone. So it will be interesting how Apple makes that easily findable with 
VO.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-06-30 Thread Chris Moore 
Mary,
When you go into a link from an e-mail, there is a return to mail button in the 
top left corner.  As far as returning to a previous app is concerned, we have 
an app switcher for that.

Chris

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Re: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-06-30 Thread Mary Otten 
Well multitasking was never on the phone, right? And they're really improving 
it on the iPad. I guess they figure the iPad is big enough to really do it 
effectively. But switching  apps seems like a good thing. The competition 
doesn't have a good way to do it either except if you

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> On Jun 30, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> H, the 3D touch gesture where you press on the left edge of the screen to 
> bring up app switcher still works. what doesn’t work is the 4-finger swipe to 
> move between apps. This makes me extremely sad as I love that gesture and 
> used it all the time. 
> 
> I’d be curious to know the reasoning behind removing such things as 
> multi-tasking when those are the very things people really want and, I 
> assume, the competition has had for a while now.
>> On Jun 30, 2017, at 7:58 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, this is from a public source. So hopefully it's OK to post here. 
>> Bummer. This and the loss of the ability to return to the previous app you 
>> were in from another app or unfortunate. I use that last feature a lot to go 
>> back to mail when I've gone to a website. I wonder why they're doing this.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional 
>> change
>> 9to5Mac  /  Benjamin Mayo
>> 
>> 
>> Whilst iOS 11 includes a lot of new stuff to enjoy, there are also a few 
>> features that have been left behind. One such example is a lesser-known 3D 
>> Touch gesture that enabled faster access to the iPhone app switcher and a 
>> quick shortcut to move back to the previous app. Both of these elements are 
>> no longer present in iOS 11 and a bug report appears to confirm that this 
>> was an intentional removal rather than an outstanding bug.
>> 
>> 
>> Bryan Irace filed a Radar about the removal of the 3D Touch convenience 
>> gesture and posted the Apple engineer’s reply on Twitter.
>> 
>> Short but sweet, it unfortunately states that the feature has been removed 
>> on purpose and will not be returning: ‘Please know that this feature was 
>> intentionally removed.’
>> 
>> In case you aren’t aware exactly what feature we are referencing, try it out 
>> for yourself: on an iOS 10 device with 3D Touch, iPhone 6s or iPhone 7, 
>> press deeply at the left edge of the screen to open the app switcher.
>> 
>> Instead of lifting immediately, drag across to seamlessly switch from the 
>> current app to the previous one. This was much faster than double-tapping 
>> the Home Button and dragging between open app ‘cards’, but will simply stop 
>> working when users upgrade to iOS 11.
>> 
>> Apple engineering has confirmed that 3D Touch multitasking was intentionally 
>> removed in iOS 11. I am livid. pic.twitter.com/kiCcLq9XMB
>> 
>> — Bryan Irace (@irace) June 30, 2017
>> 
>> 
>> You can see Craig Federighi demo the gesture at the original iPhone 6s event 
>> below, which heralded 3D Touch as a marquee feature. It’s fair to say that 
>> the functionality was not a critical part of the iOS experience; it was 
>> meant as a power user shortcut to a very common action.
>> 
>> It’s unclear why Apple would remove something that was so useful — perhaps 
>> it interferes with the gestures of the upcoming bezel-less iPhone 8 somehow, 
>> although it’s hard to envision how it might clash.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Original Article: 
>> https://9to5mac.com/2017/06/30/ios-11-3d-touch-app-switching-gesture-removed/
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-06-30 Thread Jenine Stanley 
H, the 3D touch gesture where you press on the left edge of the screen to 
bring up app switcher still works. what doesn’t work is the 4-finger swipe to 
move between apps. This makes me extremely sad as I love that gesture and used 
it all the time. 

I’d be curious to know the reasoning behind removing such things as 
multi-tasking when those are the very things people really want and, I assume, 
the competition has had for a while now.
> On Jun 30, 2017, at 7:58 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Well, this is from a public source. So hopefully it's OK to post here. 
> Bummer. This and the loss of the ability to return to the previous app you 
> were in from another app or unfortunate. I use that last feature a lot to go 
> back to mail when I've gone to a website. I wonder why they're doing this.
> Mary
> 
> Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional 
> change
> 9to5Mac  /  Benjamin Mayo
> 
>  
> 
> Whilst iOS 11 includes a lot of new stuff to enjoy, there are also a few 
> features that have been left behind. One such example is a lesser-known 3D 
> Touch gesture that enabled faster access to the iPhone app switcher and a 
> quick shortcut to move back to the previous app. Both of these elements are 
> no longer present in iOS 11 and a bug report appears to confirm that this was 
> an intentional removal rather than an outstanding bug.
> 
> 
> Bryan Irace filed a Radar about the removal of the 3D Touch convenience 
> gesture and posted the Apple engineer’s reply on Twitter 
> .
> 
> Short but sweet, it unfortunately states that the feature has been removed on 
> purpose and will not be returning: ‘Please know that this feature was 
> intentionally removed.’
> 
> In case you aren’t aware exactly what feature we are referencing, try it out 
> for yourself: on an iOS 10 device with 3D Touch, iPhone 6s or iPhone 7, press 
> deeply at the left edge of the screen to open the app switcher.
> 
> Instead of lifting immediately, drag across to seamlessly switch from the 
> current app to the previous one. This was much faster than double-tapping the 
> Home Button and dragging between open app ‘cards’, but will simply stop 
> working when users upgrade to iOS 11.
> 
> Apple engineering has confirmed that 3D Touch multitasking was intentionally 
> removed in iOS 11. I am livid. pic.twitter.com/kiCcLq9XMB 
> 
> — Bryan Irace (@irace) June 30, 2017 
> 
> 
> You can see Craig Federighi demo the gesture at the original iPhone 6s event 
> below, which heralded 3D Touch as a marquee feature. It’s fair to say that 
> the functionality was not a critical part of the iOS experience; it was meant 
> as a power user shortcut to a very common action.
> 
> It’s unclear why Apple would remove something that was so useful — perhaps it 
> interferes with the gestures of the upcoming bezel-less iPhone 8 somehow, 
> although it’s hard to envision how it might clash.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Original Article: 
> https://9to5mac.com/2017/06/30/ios-11-3d-touch-app-switching-gesture-removed/ 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-06-30 Thread Mary Otten 
Well, this is from a public source. So hopefully it's OK to post here. Bummer. 
This and the loss of the ability to return to the previous app you were in from 
another app or unfortunate. I use that last feature a lot to go back to mail 
when I've gone to a website. I wonder why they're doing this.
Mary

Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional 
change
9to5Mac  /  Benjamin Mayo


Whilst iOS 11 includes a lot of new stuff to enjoy, there are also a few 
features that have been left behind. One such example is a lesser-known 3D 
Touch gesture that enabled faster access to the iPhone app switcher and a quick 
shortcut to move back to the previous app. Both of these elements are no longer 
present in iOS 11 and a bug report appears to confirm that this was an 
intentional removal rather than an outstanding bug.


Bryan Irace filed a Radar about the removal of the 3D Touch convenience gesture 
and posted the Apple engineer’s reply on Twitter.

Short but sweet, it unfortunately states that the feature has been removed on 
purpose and will not be returning: ‘Please know that this feature was 
intentionally removed.’

In case you aren’t aware exactly what feature we are referencing, try it out 
for yourself: on an iOS 10 device with 3D Touch, iPhone 6s or iPhone 7, press 
deeply at the left edge of the screen to open the app switcher.

Instead of lifting immediately, drag across to seamlessly switch from the 
current app to the previous one. This was much faster than double-tapping the 
Home Button and dragging between open app ‘cards’, but will simply stop working 
when users upgrade to iOS 11.

Apple engineering has confirmed that 3D Touch multitasking was intentionally 
removed in iOS 11. I am livid. pic.twitter.com/kiCcLq9XMB

— Bryan Irace (@irace) June 30, 2017

You can see Craig Federighi demo the gesture at the original iPhone 6s event 
below, which heralded 3D Touch as a marquee feature. It’s fair to say that the 
functionality was not a critical part of the iOS experience; it was meant as a 
power user shortcut to a very common action.

It’s unclear why Apple would remove something that was so useful — perhaps it 
interferes with the gestures of the upcoming bezel-less iPhone 8 somehow, 
although it’s hard to envision how it might clash.





Original Article: 
https://9to5mac.com/2017/06/30/ios-11-3d-touch-app-switching-gesture-removed/


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