Test number 2 to the list.

[Maurice A. Mines]

This  is. A test  to. See  if. Email is ditching the  list?

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Test of email to the email list

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Hi  just  testing to see  if  this  gets to  the  list .

Maurice  Mines.

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Test Message, please ignore

[M. Taylor]

Hi.

This is a test message, please ignore.

Mark


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just a test 

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Need to make sure my messages are geting through to the list.  Please ignore or 
let me know you’ve seen this message please.

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Re: Test message

[Jessica Moss]

It has.

> On Nov 17, 2023, at 10:39 AM, Simon Cavendish  
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Could you please confirm this message has reached the group?

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Re: Test

[joseph hudson]

Hi Simon, have you made the changes, at the very bottom there is a save button 
you have to get that in for not receive individual messages.

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Hi,

I don’t seem to be receiving any messages from the group although I have chosen 
to receive each individual email.  Am I missing something I should have done?

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Re: test message

[Maurice A. Mines]

Hi  lowed and  clear.

Maurice A. Mines.

My  personal email address is  direct maur...@maurice-amines.com 
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National Federation of the  Blind Deafblind Division “ 
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Ip relay 661-249-9715.
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> On Sep 26, 2023, at 13:00, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> You are.
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2023, at 00:00, Gerry Cook  wrote:
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>> cheers gerry have a nice day.  email gerrycoo...@gmail.com.  
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Re: test message

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You are.

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Re: A test, and how can I subscribe my actual real email address?

[Brad Snyder]

Your Mac mini post did make it to the list. I read it just fine.

- Brad -

On Sep 1, 2023, at 12:34, Maurice A. Mines  wrote:

Good morning everyone, I responded to the Mac mini thread but I noticed my 
message apparently did not make it to the list. So I am testing to see if this 
email makes it to the list? Please take note of the email address in my 
signature. I’d rather use that email address than this Google address. Why, 
because the email address that is in my signature is the email address that I 
took about 90% of the time. I don’t check my Google address very often at all. 
Any thoughts? Please forgive any typos, or mistakes in this message because I 
am dictating this to my phone. Because that’s the only place that Google 
messages go to automatically.  Thank you all very much for reading this. And I 
hope everyone has an outstanding Labor Day weekend. 
Sent from my iPhone. 
Email, mmi...@mauricemines.org
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A test, and how can I subscribe my actual real email address?

[Maurice A. Mines]

Good morning everyone, I responded to the Mac mini thread but I noticed my 
message apparently did not make it to the list. So I am testing to see if this 
email makes it to the list? Please take note of the email address in my 
signature. I’d rather use that email address than this Google address. Why, 
because the email address that is in my signature is the email address that I 
took about 90% of the time. I don’t check my Google address very often at all. 
Any thoughts? Please forgive any typos, or mistakes in this message because I 
am dictating this to my phone. Because that’s the only place that Google 
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Sent from my iPhone. 
Email, mmi...@mauricemines.org
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Re: Test

[Dave Carlson]

Got it.

Dave Carlson
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OT: Test re failled new contacts

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OT: Test re: adding you as a contact into new computer, thanks

[meikle.aiden via MacVisionaries]

 

From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: 10 January 2022 16:50
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend a good blood pressure monitor that works with 
iPhone?

 

Hi Brett,

 

Thanks so much for this.  I don’t like the idea of not getting feedback, so I 
think I’ll stick with the Qardio, at least for now.

Cheers,

Donna





On Jan 10, 2022, at 10:25 AM, Brett Lewis mailto:brettle...@brettlewis.us> > wrote:

 

I have the withings blood pressure monitor and it does work.

I can't remember if the setup was accessible but the actual measurement process 
provides no feedback. You have to press once to turn on the monitor, wait a few 
seconds, press to start the measurement, when it is done, press the monitor to 
show the measurement and finally one last time to send it to the iPhone app.

Also, the design is awkward, it goes only on your left arm and is one contained 
unit.

It does look kind of cool because it is a single rechargeable unit via usb but 
I always have trouble getting it on my arm.

Just my thoughts.

Having said all that, I do use it and it works.

Brett

 

 

On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 8:12 AM 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

Hi,

 

Have you looked at the monitors by Withings?

 

https://www.withings.com/ca/en/blood-pressure-monitors

 

The app is accessible for sure.  The only part I’m not sure of is the initial 
setup of the device.  I expect that it would be as their scales tend to be easy 
to use and can be set up without sighted assistance.

 

Later…

 


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist

Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada





On Jan 9, 2022, at 10:07, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

 

Hi, Jonathan,

 

Yeah, I don’t get it.  I’ve contacted the dev, and they don’t know why it’s 
happening either.  At this point, I might just punt Qardio, and get a talking 
one instead.

Cheers,

Donna

 





On Jan 9, 2022, at 10:46 AM, Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Crazy. The only other option I can see to try and correct this would be to 
remove the app and re-install it from the app store. If your BP is in your 
Health app, you probably will not lose the data, but if it is only in the 
Cardio app, it might be an issue. I suppose you could also try working with 
either Apple or the product developer to resolve the issues.

Jonathan 

 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn







On Jan 9, 2022, at 08:25, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

 

Hi Jonathan,

 

Well, I was really hoping that would solve my issue, but it didn’t.  When I 
checked in privacy settings, Qardio was already on.  I turned it off and back 
on, but that didn’t fix the problem.

Cheers,

Donna

 

Sent from my iPad





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Hello Donna,

In the last couple versions of IOS, apps are not allowed to communicate 
directly with the bluetooth stack without being given permission. This is 
because bluetooth was being used to track peoples locations. Any bluetooth 
device that needs an app to interpret it, must have that apps be granted 
bluetooth access in the privacy table. To do this,open up the Settings app 
under privacy select bluetooth and then look to make sure your app is enabled 
here.

Generally, there are four types of apps I find in the list that have requested 
bluetooth access:

1. Location apps that are using bluetooth to better pinpoint your location, 
like Sound Scape and Blind Square

2. Apps  that use chrome cast to send video to TVs.

3. Apps to specialially control a specific device (iRobot)

4. Apps that want to track you wit bluetooth beacons I have one restaurant and  
CBS News )

 

Best wishes,

 


Jonathan Cohn







On Jan 8, 2022, at 16:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

 

Well, I’ve got it turning on - I just wasn’t closing it tightly enough.  But it 
still says Bluetooth permission denied every time I start a measurement.
Cheers,
Donna




On Jan 8, 2022, at 12:27 PM, Caitlyn Furness mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Oh wow!  I don’t know of any others that work with th3e i phone.  Hope you find 
one, though!

Cait





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Hi, Caitlyn,

That’s the one I have, but it does not work great.  I can’t even get it to come 
on.
Cheers,
Donna





On Jan 8, 2022, at 9:37 AM, Caitlyn Furness mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com> > wrote:

the qardio arm works great!  There is an app called qardio which handles all 
their devices.  Basically, once you have the qardio arm paired to the phone 
through bluetooth, all you have to do is open the 

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Re: test

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Yes

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Test, please ignore

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Just seeing if I’m on the list.


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Re: Anyone running test IOS and playing AudiWizards?

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Hi Donna!
Is this in a popup like window?
If so I have the issue when I want to select airplay in the music app and in 
the Swedish radio app when I want to select airplanes.
VoiceOver jumps back to the first item no matter what I do.
I don’t have that game ju mentioned but I could try it.
/A

> 29 maj 2021 kl. 20:51 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering if anyone can actually play this game running the latest IOS. 
> On my iPhone 12 mini, Voiceover just keeps repeating “Audiwizards, Play game 
> Music Room Options” over and over again. I am unable to select anything. 
> Tapping the screen does nothing. I was about to write to Apple to request a 
> refund, but thought I’d check here first.  If you’ve gotten it to work, what 
> did you do?
> Cheers,
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Anyone running test IOS and playing AudiWizards?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone can actually play this game running the latest IOS. On 
my iPhone 12 mini, Voiceover just keeps repeating “Audiwizards, Play game Music 
Room Options” over and over again. I am unable to select anything. Tapping the 
screen does nothing. I was about to write to Apple to request a refund, but 
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Cheers,
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hi had a computer crash hope its working well now. 

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just testing my preferences.

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Experiment  still not working correctly. 


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Re: Test ignore

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   Ok guys anyone who uses gmail, email Eric off list so he can get 
this working. He will get off list mail.


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in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/7/2020 7:37 PM, Eric Caron wrote:

Trying to fix the email flow

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Re: A test using my Focus.

[Pete De Vasto]

Hi Kawal,

Message came through just fine both via listening with speech and reading on my 
Braille display. Glad I was able to help you.

Pete

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 2:23 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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A test using my Focus.

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

Hello Everyone.
Just to let you know I am using the Focus to write this message after the 
instructions that Pete gave me on the list.
Thanks so much for this as it’s working now.
Kawal.



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test, please ignore

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Not sure if I'm getting list mail so sending this test.  Please ignore.
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Re: Speed test website

[dan d.]

With the terminal version, speedtest-cli, the destination server and more can 
be configured.
On Wed, 4 Sep 2019, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

> Hi Tim,
>
> I didn???t see any option to set the target server,
>
> But that would explain why the ping is so high.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 4/09/2019, at 1:36 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
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> Simon,
>
> Check where your test is going.  If the server is in NZ, then, yes you might 
> be slower than it should be.  If the server is off in Auzzy-land, then it has 
> to go a bottle neck to get there.
>
> Later...
>
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Sep 2, 2019, at 21:54, Simon A Fogarty 
> mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>
> Well that???s a shock to the system,
>
>   I go  back on what I said to you Dave and Petrus,
>
> Tim I???m guessing it???s a problem with nz???s fibre seeing my download is 
> 72.000
> And upload is 86.32
> And after checking a couple of times to be sure,
> That is Mega bits.
>
> I pay for speeds that should be 10 times faster,
> Petrus I think we should complain
>
> Dave, I???d check with yor provider
>
> From: Petrus Tuerlings mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 3:33 PM
> To: Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
> Subject: Speed test website
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> Here it is.
> www.speedtest.net<http://www.speedtest.net/>.
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Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

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Hi,

T?here is also an app for your Mac available in the Mac App Store.  It is more 
accurate when dealing with speeds over 100 Mbps.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 3, 2019, at 23:53, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Yeah it’s very good and easy to use.
 
Just remember though that  speed tests over wifi is questionable due to a 
number of different factors
But still gives a reasonable idea of what things are like on a connection.
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2019 1:31 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?
 
I just installed the App to my iPhone and it works quite well and is very 
accessible.


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mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:
 
Hi,
 
You can also download the SpeedTest app from the AppStore.  It's free and 
supposedly is more reliable for tests over 100 Mbps.
 
Later...
 

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On Sep 3, 2019, at 03:47, 'Bill Gallik' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:
 
 I cannot remember which of you folks was having difficulty locating the 
“START” button on the Speed Test web site, but whomever it was (and, for that 
matter, all of us) can always enable “Quick Nav” and then press the “B” key to 
locate buttons including that ever evasive button to launch the speed test.
 
BTW: My results are as follows:
Your speed test has completed. Your download speed is 40.44, Your upload speed 
is 7.96, and your ping time took 22 milliseconds. 
 
I think I’ll plug one of my computers directly into the router and see if I get 
better results because I sure as heck am paying for faster speeds than what is 
reported!


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RE: Speed Test Results

[Simon A Fogarty]

Petrus is using a rather up to date device which is able to run 1gigabit speeds.

 As is my own device.
But like anything including your list of possible reasons
We can include the limits behind or with our nations fibre connections 
including each connection having a limit of I believe 25 users per connection 

As our our fibre connections  run on the ADSL 2 plus protocol which is still 
pretty much old tech

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Holly Jensen
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2019 1:35 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Speed Test Results

Hello,

I get a bit confused also, (no pun intended). In terms of the internet, when 
you are transmitting data, such as when talking about speed, it is always in 
bits rather than bites. As far as the question of why wi-fi is slower than 
wired, it is nearly always that way. A wired signal always transmits along the 
wire, and does not weaken until it reaches a certain distance, whereas a wi-fi 
signal may have to go through walls, be accessed from an angle, experience 
interference, etc. Also, there are two different kinds of wi-fi signal, 2.4 
GHZ, and 5.0 GHZ. The 2.4 will transmit for a longer distance, but will be 
slower, and the 5.0 will weaken at a shorter distance from the box. I don’t 
know how much difference it makes if you are using fiber though. I would call 
the internet service provider and let them know what is happening. It could be 
the box needs to be moved, a channel needs to be changed, or something needs to 
be updated. It could also be that the device you are using to access the 
internet with is simply not built to process one gigabit of speed. Okay okay, 
the nerd is shutting up now. Hope at least some of this was helpful.

Holly

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RE: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah it’s very good and easy to use.

Just remember though that  speed tests over wifi is questionable due to a 
number of different factors
But still gives a reasonable idea of what things are like on a connection.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2019 1:31 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

I just installed the App to my iPhone and it works quite well and is very 
accessible.


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mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

You can also download the SpeedTest app from the AppStore.  It's free and 
supposedly is more reliable for tests over 100 Mbps.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 3, 2019, at 03:47, 'Bill Gallik' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

 I cannot remember which of you folks was having difficulty locating the 
“START” button on the Speed Test web site, but whomever it was (and, for that 
matter, all of us) can always enable “Quick Nav” and then press the “B” key to 
locate buttons including that ever evasive button to launch the speed test.

BTW: My results are as follows:
Your speed test has completed. Your download speed is 40.44, Your upload speed 
is 7.96, and your ping time took 22 milliseconds.

I think I’ll plug one of my computers directly into the router and see if I get 
better results because I sure as heck am paying for faster speeds than what is 
reported!


- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
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Speed Test Results

[Holly Jensen]

Hello,

I get a bit confused also, (no pun intended). In terms of the internet, when 
you are transmitting data, such as when talking about speed, it is always in 
bits rather than bites. As far as the question of why wi-fi is slower than 
wired, it is nearly always that way. A wired signal always transmits along the 
wire, and does not weaken until it reaches a certain distance, whereas a wi-fi 
signal may have to go through walls, be accessed from an angle, experience 
interference, etc. Also, there are two different kinds of wi-fi signal, 2.4 
GHZ, and 5.0 GHZ. The 2.4 will transmit for a longer distance, but will be 
slower, and the 5.0 will weaken at a shorter distance from the box. I don’t 
know how much difference it makes if you are using fiber though. I would call 
the internet service provider and let them know what is happening. It could be 
the box needs to be moved, a channel needs to be changed, or something needs to 
be updated. It could also be that the device you are using to access the 
internet with is simply not built to process one gigabit of speed. Okay okay, 
the nerd is shutting up now. Hope at least some of this was helpful.

Holly

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Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

[Petrus Tuerlings]

I just installed the App to my iPhone and it works quite well and is very 
accessible.

> On 4/09/2019, at 1:37 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You can also download the SpeedTest app from the AppStore.  It's free and 
> supposedly is more reliable for tests over 100 Mbps.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 3, 2019, at 03:47, 'Bill Gallik' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
>  I cannot remember which of you folks was having difficulty locating the 
> “START” button on the Speed Test web site, but whomever it was (and, for that 
> matter, all of us) can always enable “Quick Nav” and then press the “B” key 
> to locate buttons including that ever evasive button to launch the speed test.
> 
> BTW: My results are as follows:
> Your speed test has completed. Your download speed is 40.44, Your upload 
> speed is 7.96, and your ping time took 22 milliseconds. 
> 
> I think I’ll plug one of my computers directly into the router and see if I 
> get better results because I sure as heck am paying for faster speeds than 
> what is reported!
> 
> 
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
> - “The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.”
> - Contributor Unknown
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Re: Speed test website

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Hi Tim,

I didn’t see any option to set the target server,

But that would explain why the ping is so high.

Sent from my iPad

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Check where your test is going.  If the server is in NZ, then, yes you might be 
slower than it should be.  If the server is off in Auzzy-land, then it has to 
go a bottle neck to get there.

Later...


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On Sep 2, 2019, at 21:54, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Well that’s a shock to the system,

  I go  back on what I said to you Dave and Petrus,

Tim I’m guessing it’s a problem with nz’s fibre seeing my download is 72.000
And upload is 86.32
And after checking a couple of times to be sure,
That is Mega bits.

I pay for speeds that should be 10 times faster,
Petrus I think we should complain

Dave, I’d check with yor provider

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Here it is.
www.speedtest.net<http://www.speedtest.net/>.
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Speed Test Results

[dan d.]

For use in terminal; macports and homebrew have speedtest-cli which is a text 
only version of the speedtest.net results.

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Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

You can also download the SpeedTest app from the AppStore.  It's free and 
supposedly is more reliable for tests over 100 Mbps.

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On Sep 3, 2019, at 03:47, 'Bill Gallik' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

 I cannot remember which of you folks was having difficulty locating the 
“START” button on the Speed Test web site, but whomever it was (and, for that 
matter, all of us) can always enable “Quick Nav” and then press the “B” key to 
locate buttons including that ever evasive button to launch the speed test.

BTW: My results are as follows:
Your speed test has completed. Your download speed is 40.44, Your upload speed 
is 7.96, and your ping time took 22 milliseconds. 

I think I’ll plug one of my computers directly into the router and see if I get 
better results because I sure as heck am paying for faster speeds than what is 
reported!


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Re: Speed test website

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Simon,

Check where your test is going.  If the server is in NZ, then, yes you might be 
slower than it should be.  If the server is off in Auzzy-land, then it has to 
go a bottle neck to get there.

Later...


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On Sep 2, 2019, at 21:54, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Well that’s a shock to the system,
 
  I go  back on what I said to you Dave and Petrus,
 
Tim I’m guessing it’s a problem with nz’s fibre seeing my download is 72.000
And upload is 86.32
And after checking a couple of times to be sure,
That is Mega bits.
 
I pay for speeds that should be 10 times faster,
Petrus I think we should complain
 
Dave, I’d check with yor provider
 
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Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 3:33 PM
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Here it is.
www.speedtest.net <http://www.speedtest.net/>.

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Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

['Bill Gallik' via MacVisionaries]

 I cannot remember which of you folks was having difficulty locating the 
“START” button on the Speed Test web site, but whomever it was (and, for that 
matter, all of us) can always enable “Quick Nav” and then press the “B” key to 
locate buttons including that ever evasive button to launch the speed test.

BTW: My results are as follows:
Your speed test has completed. Your download speed is 40.44, Your upload speed 
is 7.96, and your ping time took 22 milliseconds. 

I think I’ll plug one of my computers directly into the router and see if I get 
better results because I sure as heck am paying for faster speeds than what is 
reported!


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RE: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Gents,

I just ran that speed test on a wired machine and got a
Ping of 22milli seconds,
Download:192.57 Megabits
Upload: 171.32 megabits

So as showing wired is faster than a wifi test

But alsoalso the wifi router and type of connection makes a big difference also.
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Yes, I was a bit unsure on that one too.


On 3/09/2019, at 3:40 PM, Dave Carlson 
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Simon and Tim, and Petrus,
I’m still not sure what the units are for this speed test. Since they only give 
the numbers, but no mention of whether they are megabits or megabytes.

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Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

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Yes, I was a bit unsure on that one too.

> On 3/09/2019, at 3:40 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> I’m still not sure what the units are for this speed test. Since they only 
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RE: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Dave,

I used chrome and in the line prior to the speed record is a line that tells 
you what the upload / download  on that same line is an mb/ ps
So it is there.

My ping speed is what I’d expect a snail to have when running backwards on ice.
26 milli seconds.

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Simon and Tim, and Petrus,
I’m still not sure what the units are for this speed test. Since they only give 
the numbers, but no mention of whether they are megabits or megabytes.

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RE: Speed test website

[Simon A Fogarty]

Well that’s a shock to the system,

  I go  back on what I said to you Dave and Petrus,

Tim I’m guessing it’s a problem with nz’s fibre seeing my download is 72.000
And upload is 86.32
And after checking a couple of times to be sure,
That is Mega bits.

I pay for speeds that should be 10 times faster,
Petrus I think we should complain

Dave, I’d check with yor provider

From: Petrus Tuerlings 
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 3:33 PM
To: Simon A Fogarty 
Subject: Speed test website

Here it is.
www.speedtest.net<http://www.speedtest.net/>.
Sent from Petrus's iPhone

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RE: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

[Simon A Fogarty]

>From one of his last emails,
I think it is dyslexia

No he hit the wrong key on the keyboard but really has a speed similar to 
yourself

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Yeah, just what does Tim have that we don’t? 100T? F/O? Maybe I need to 
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Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

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Simon and Tim, and Petrus,
I’m still not sure what the units are for this speed test. Since they only give 
the numbers, but no mention of whether they are megabits or megabytes.

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RE: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

Hell that’s a big difference.

Now if we divide that by 8 we get a number closer to that of what dave is 
getting.

I’m still dreaming of that speed in megabytes though,

That would be so fast when downloading.

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Subject: Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

Hi Simon,

Oops, sorry.  Should have used proper abbreviations.  Yeah, 268 Mbps this 
evening.  Bytes would be better, of course.  This is on a WiFi connection.

Later...


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On Sep 2, 2019, at 16:40, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim,

For Petrus and I
We’re both on fibre connections mine is meant to be download of up to 1 Gb but 
that’s top speed,I’m lucky if I get half that on a good day.

Petrus I’m not sure of his speeds but would be getting upwards of similar to 
mine,

The difference simply due to location and a platform that my city got to 
experience first in the country,



We both use the same ISP bt use different routers / modems

I can pretty much say that Petrus would have better speeds on his connection 
than I would get on mine.

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Hi,

It kind of depends on a number of factors.  If doing this on an iOS device, it 
may display slower results.  On a Mac, it depends on whether your ISP is a 
cable provider or ADSL or something more like fibre.  I suggest you run it two 
or three times to see if the results differ.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 2, 2019, at 10:51, 'Bill Gallik' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

 OK, I ran the speed test and the results appear to be significantly slower 
than what I am supposedly paying for from my ISP.

Is this a normal characteristic or am I being overcharged for service?


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Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

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Yeah, just what does Tim have that we don’t? 100T? F/O? Maybe I need to 
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RE: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Dave,

That sounds very much like megabytes to me.

The download speed is the one that really matters unless your uploading a lot 
of data to other sites.

But that would be similar to what I’m getting here in NZ,
But yes much slower than Tim is getting in Canada


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Simon, here’s what I copied:
Your speed test has completed. Your download speed is 48.63, Your upload speed 
is 3.08, and your ping time took 13 milliseconds. Thank you for using Ookla 
Speedtest.

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Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Simon,

Oops, sorry.  Should have used proper abbreviations.  Yeah, 268 Mbps this 
evening.  Bytes would be better, of course.  This is on a WiFi connection.

Later...


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On Sep 2, 2019, at 16:40, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Hi Tim,
 
For Petrus and I 
We’re both on fibre connections mine is meant to be download of up to 1 Gb but 
that’s top speed,I’m lucky if I get half that on a good day.
 
Petrus I’m not sure of his speeds but would be getting upwards of similar to 
mine,
 
The difference simply due to location and a platform that my city got to 
experience first in the country,
 
 
 
We both use the same ISP bt use different routers / modems
 
I can pretty much say that Petrus would have better speeds on his connection 
than I would get on mine.
 
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 9:28 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?
 
Hi,
 
It kind of depends on a number of factors.  If doing this on an iOS device, it 
may display slower results.  On a Mac, it depends on whether your ISP is a 
cable provider or ADSL or something more like fibre.  I suggest you run it two 
or three times to see if the results differ.
 
Later...
 

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On Sep 2, 2019, at 10:51, 'Bill Gallik' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:
 
 OK, I ran the speed test and the results appear to be significantly slower 
than what I am supposedly paying for from my ISP.
 
Is this a normal characteristic or am I being overcharged for service?


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Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

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Simon, here’s what I copied:
Your speed test has completed. Your download speed is 48.63, Your upload speed 
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RE: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Dave,

3 Mb as you reported is quite slow,

Possibly you did get it mistaken

Or Tim confused bytes for bits vise versa.

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Simon, I’m not sure if I reported the appendix correctly. I’ll have to go back 
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Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

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Simon, I’m not sure if I reported the appendix correctly. I’ll have to go back 
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Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

[Petrus Tuerlings]

I haven’t got the correct cables to do that and I can’t even work out how to 
start the speed test anyway regardless of weather I’m on a cable or wifi. 

> On 3/09/2019, at 10:33 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Petrus,
>  
> If possible try the speed test using a wired connection rather than a wifi 
> connection
>  
> It can be different.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 7:52 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?
>  
> Hi all,
> Maybe I should explain myself. I think I got lost after I opened the link as 
> I was still in bed on a Sunday morning and I was using the iPhone. I will try 
> it again on the Mac today. 
> Petrus 
> 
> 
> On 3/09/2019, at 6:23 AM, Dave Carlson  <mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>  
> Bill,
> I ran it also. My upload is only 3 Mbps and download 43 Mbps. Pretty 
> pathetic, compared to Tim. But we don’t pay for any upgrades on our cable, so 
> that may be typical.
> 
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RE: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

For Petrus and I
We’re both on fibre connections mine is meant to be download of up to 1 Gb but 
that’s top speed,I’m lucky if I get half that on a good day.

Petrus I’m not sure of his speeds but would be getting upwards of similar to 
mine,

The difference simply due to location and a platform that my city got to 
experience first in the country,



We both use the same ISP bt use different routers / modems

I can pretty much say that Petrus would have better speeds on his connection 
than I would get on mine.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 9:28 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

Hi,

It kind of depends on a number of factors.  If doing this on an iOS device, it 
may display slower results.  On a Mac, it depends on whether your ISP is a 
cable provider or ADSL or something more like fibre.  I suggest you run it two 
or three times to see if the results differ.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 2, 2019, at 10:51, 'Bill Gallik' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

 OK, I ran the speed test and the results appear to be significantly slower 
than what I am supposedly paying for from my ISP.

Is this a normal characteristic or am I being overcharged for service?


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RE: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Petrus,

If possible try the speed test using a wired connection rather than a wifi 
connection

It can be different.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 7:52 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

Hi all,
Maybe I should explain myself. I think I got lost after I opened the link as I 
was still in bed on a Sunday morning and I was using the iPhone. I will try it 
again on the Mac today.
Petrus


On 3/09/2019, at 6:23 AM, Dave Carlson 
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Bill,
I ran it also. My upload is only 3 Mbps and download 43 Mbps. Pretty pathetic, 
compared to Tim. But we don’t pay for any upgrades on our cable, so that may be 
typical.

Dave Carlson
Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician





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RE: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi dave,

Tim gave his speed in megabytes and you have given yours in mega bits,

So there does seem like a big differences but if you work out your speed in 
megabytes it will be higher

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Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 6:23 AM
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Bill,
I ran it also. My upload is only 3 Mbps and download 43 Mbps. Pretty pathetic, 
compared to Tim. But we don’t pay for any upgrades on our cable, so that may be 
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Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

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Hi,

It kind of depends on a number of factors.  If doing this on an iOS device, it 
may display slower results.  On a Mac, it depends on whether your ISP is a 
cable provider or ADSL or something more like fibre.  I suggest you run it two 
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Later...


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 OK, I ran the speed test and the results appear to be significantly slower 
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Is this a normal characteristic or am I being overcharged for service?


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Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

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Hi all,
Maybe I should explain myself. I think I got lost after I opened the link as I 
was still in bed on a Sunday morning and I was using the iPhone. I will try it 
again on the Mac today. 
Petrus 

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Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

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Bill,
I ran it also. My upload is only 3 Mbps and download 43 Mbps. Pretty pathetic, 
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Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

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Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I am not sure but can probably find out. Being that is is twice as 
expensive as other displays (the Active Braille may be the one I saw and 
would like to get that one), I was afraid to get too excited as the 
program I was in might balk and ultimately they did.


   The Focus 5th will connect if I turn the Mac on or unlock my phone, 
its that good. And its just as easy to disconnect it too or switch to 
another device.


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On 3/15/2019 7:17 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

Which Handy tech display did you see? And how is the Mac conductivity?


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 15, 2019, at 6:30 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   I had my fingers on a HandyTech display for a few minutes and would have 
liked to have kept it. It had an ergonomic display, not flat.

   The Hims displays I have used developed many weak cells. At $70 per cell its 
 gamble how many out of 40 would be replaced. The Focus 5th I have is just a 
few months old and has some cells that are problematic right now. Not to 
mention the lack of development. One update in almost a year. Other than that, 
its decent. Very easy to connect to any one of 5 devices. Sometimes too easy 
when you don't want a connection.

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On 3/15/2019 5:58 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
Hello E.T.,
To be honest, I did not determine the generation name of the display model of 
the Focus.  I simply told them that I wanted to take a look at the most recent 
version of the Focus 40.
I did not see any HandyTech displays but, then again, I did not look for any 
HandyTech products.
While I went to virtually all of the blindness related booths, Humanware, Hims, 
and Freedom Scientific were the vendors to which I paid the most attention.
Mark
-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:03 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so
Mark.
 Was this a Focus 5th or a new version? I like the 5th but its not being 
developed enough, it has some minor annoyances.
 Were there any displays from HandyTech?
  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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On 3/14/2019 10:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
Hello Everyone,

Today, I went to the exhibit hall at the 2019 CSUN Assistive
Technology Conference here in southern California.

Among other goals, I was interested in test driving a few Braille
displays for use with my iOS devices.

Imagine my surprise when I arrived at the A.P.H. booth and discovered
that they had no Orbit Reader 20s on hand for visitors to explore.
While I was there, 2 other people walked up and asked about the Orbit
Reader 20 and were equally disappointed at the lack of a demo model.

I did, however, get a look at an entire host of other BRaile displays,
from other companies, including the latest version of the Focus 40.
Now, that, is a beautiful device.

Regardless, I was sorely disappointed at not having an opportunity to
test drive the Orbit Reader 20 Braille display.

And the beat goes on,

Mark


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Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

[Mary Otten]

Which Handy tech display did you see? And how is the Mac conductivity?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 15, 2019, at 6:30 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   I had my fingers on a HandyTech display for a few minutes and would have 
> liked to have kept it. It had an ergonomic display, not flat.
> 
>   The Hims displays I have used developed many weak cells. At $70 per cell 
> its  gamble how many out of 40 would be replaced. The Focus 5th I have is 
> just a few months old and has some cells that are problematic right now. Not 
> to mention the lack of development. One update in almost a year. Other than 
> that, its decent. Very easy to connect to any one of 5 devices. Sometimes too 
> easy when you don't want a connection.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
>> On 3/15/2019 5:58 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello E.T.,
>> To be honest, I did not determine the generation name of the display model 
>> of the Focus.  I simply told them that I wanted to take a look at the most 
>> recent version of the Focus 40.
>> I did not see any HandyTech displays but, then again, I did not look for any 
>> HandyTech products.
>> While I went to virtually all of the blindness related booths, Humanware, 
>> Hims, and Freedom Scientific were the vendors to which I paid the most 
>> attention.
>> Mark
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:03 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so
>> Mark.
>> Was this a Focus 5th or a new version? I like the 5th but its not being 
>> developed enough, it has some minor annoyances.
>> Were there any displays from HandyTech?
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> On 3/14/2019 10:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> Today, I went to the exhibit hall at the 2019 CSUN Assistive
>>> Technology Conference here in southern California.
>>> 
>>> Among other goals, I was interested in test driving a few Braille
>>> displays for use with my iOS devices.
>>> 
>>> Imagine my surprise when I arrived at the A.P.H. booth and discovered
>>> that they had no Orbit Reader 20s on hand for visitors to explore.
>>> While I was there, 2 other people walked up and asked about the Orbit
>>> Reader 20 and were equally disappointed at the lack of a demo model.
>>> 
>>> I did, however, get a look at an entire host of other BRaile displays,
>>> from other companies, including the latest version of the Focus 40.
>>> Now, that, is a beautiful device.
>>> 
>>> Regardless, I was sorely disappointed at not having an opportunity to
>>> test drive the Orbit Reader 20 Braille display.
>>> 
>>> And the beat goes on,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I had my fingers on a HandyTech display for a few minutes and would 
have liked to have kept it. It had an ergonomic display, not flat.


   The Hims displays I have used developed many weak cells. At $70 per 
cell its  gamble how many out of 40 would be replaced. The Focus 5th I 
have is just a few months old and has some cells that are problematic 
right now. Not to mention the lack of development. One update in almost 
a year. Other than that, its decent. Very easy to connect to any one of 
5 devices. Sometimes too easy when you don't want a connection.


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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/15/2019 5:58 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello E.T.,

To be honest, I did not determine the generation name of the display model of 
the Focus.  I simply told them that I wanted to take a look at the most recent 
version of the Focus 40.

I did not see any HandyTech displays but, then again, I did not look for any 
HandyTech products.

While I went to virtually all of the blindness related booths, Humanware, Hims, 
and Freedom Scientific were the vendors to which I paid the most attention.

Mark


-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:03 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

Mark.
 Was this a Focus 5th or a new version? I like the 5th but its not being 
developed enough, it has some minor annoyances.

 Were there any displays from HandyTech?

  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/14/2019 10:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Today, I went to the exhibit hall at the 2019 CSUN Assistive
Technology Conference here in southern California.

Among other goals, I was interested in test driving a few Braille
displays for use with my iOS devices.

Imagine my surprise when I arrived at the A.P.H. booth and discovered
that they had no Orbit Reader 20s on hand for visitors to explore.
While I was there, 2 other people walked up and asked about the Orbit
Reader 20 and were equally disappointed at the lack of a demo model.

I did, however, get a look at an entire host of other BRaile displays,
from other companies, including the latest version of the Focus 40.
Now, that, is a beautiful device.

Regardless, I was sorely disappointed at not having an opportunity to
test drive the Orbit Reader 20 Braille display.

And the beat goes on,

Mark



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Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

[Raymond Foret Jr]

That is exactly the reason I refuse to buy one of those Orbit readers.  The 
BrailleMi is just exactly the same way from what I hear.


Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray

> On Mar 15, 2019, at 7:54 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Alia,
> 
> Wow!  I was glad to read your "rant", (smile).  
> 
> Well, you've pretty much settled the question for me.  
> 
> Even though I have several Windows computers, an Orbit Reader 20 is 
> definitely not in my future.  To me, customer service/customer support is so 
> very important.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of alia robinson
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 5:17 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so
> 
> I am baffled at this device. they never have enough when you order you have 
> to wait months. those of us with macs are told to suck it up, and buy a cheap 
> windows computer to update our devices! I seriously cannot believe that was 
> their advice, or go to the library. so I am supposed to get a sighted friend 
> to drive me, and when I called the library said they wouldn’t allow me to 
> download software on their machines to update it anyway, so I either have to 
> find a friend to update, buy a computer with windows, or go without. the 
> company even said we can’t do updates that’s up to you, but if you have a mac 
> too bad. it’s supposed to be a device for all, so much for that. Okay, rant 
> over! 
> 
> 
> On Mar 15, 2019, at 1:18 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,  
> 
> Today, I went to the exhibit hall at the 2019 CSUN Assistive Technology 
> Conference here in southern California.
> 
> Among other goals, I was interested in test driving a few Braille displays 
> for use with my iOS devices.
> 
> Imagine my surprise when I arrived at the A.P.H. booth and discovered that 
> they had no Orbit Reader 20s on hand for visitors to explore.  While I was 
> there, 2 other people walked up and asked about the Orbit Reader 20 and were 
> equally disappointed at the lack of a demo model.
> 
> I did, however, get a look at an entire host of other BRaile displays, from 
> other companies, including the latest version of the Focus 40.  Now, that, is 
> a beautiful device.
> 
> Regardless, I was sorely disappointed at not having an opportunity to test 
> drive the Orbit Reader 20 Braille display.
> 
> And the beat goes on,
> 
> Mark
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RE: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

[M. Taylor]

Hello E.T., 

To be honest, I did not determine the generation name of the display model of 
the Focus.  I simply told them that I wanted to take a look at the most recent 
version of the Focus 40.

I did not see any HandyTech displays but, then again, I did not look for any 
HandyTech products.  

While I went to virtually all of the blindness related booths, Humanware, Hims, 
and Freedom Scientific were the vendors to which I paid the most attention.

Mark


-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:03 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

Mark.
Was this a Focus 5th or a new version? I like the 5th but its not being 
developed enough, it has some minor annoyances.

Were there any displays from HandyTech?

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/14/2019 10:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Today, I went to the exhibit hall at the 2019 CSUN Assistive 
> Technology Conference here in southern California.
> 
> Among other goals, I was interested in test driving a few Braille 
> displays for use with my iOS devices.
> 
> Imagine my surprise when I arrived at the A.P.H. booth and discovered 
> that they had no Orbit Reader 20s on hand for visitors to explore.  
> While I was there, 2 other people walked up and asked about the Orbit 
> Reader 20 and were equally disappointed at the lack of a demo model.
> 
> I did, however, get a look at an entire host of other BRaile displays, 
> from other companies, including the latest version of the Focus 40.  
> Now, that, is a beautiful device.
> 
> Regardless, I was sorely disappointed at not having an opportunity to 
> test drive the Orbit Reader 20 Braille display.
> 
> And the beat goes on,
> 
> Mark
> 

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RE: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

[M. Taylor]

Hello Alia,

Wow!  I was glad to read your "rant", (smile).  

Well, you've pretty much settled the question for me.  

Even though I have several Windows computers, an Orbit Reader 20 is definitely 
not in my future.  To me, customer service/customer support is so very 
important.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of alia robinson
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 5:17 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

I am baffled at this device. they never have enough when you order you have to 
wait months. those of us with macs are told to suck it up, and buy a cheap 
windows computer to update our devices! I seriously cannot believe that was 
their advice, or go to the library. so I am supposed to get a sighted friend to 
drive me, and when I called the library said they wouldn’t allow me to download 
software on their machines to update it anyway, so I either have to find a 
friend to update, buy a computer with windows, or go without. the company even 
said we can’t do updates that’s up to you, but if you have a mac too bad. it’s 
supposed to be a device for all, so much for that. Okay, rant over! 


On Mar 15, 2019, at 1:18 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,  

Today, I went to the exhibit hall at the 2019 CSUN Assistive Technology 
Conference here in southern California.

Among other goals, I was interested in test driving a few Braille displays for 
use with my iOS devices.

Imagine my surprise when I arrived at the A.P.H. booth and discovered that they 
had no Orbit Reader 20s on hand for visitors to explore.  While I was there, 2 
other people walked up and asked about the Orbit Reader 20 and were equally 
disappointed at the lack of a demo model.

I did, however, get a look at an entire host of other BRaile displays, from 
other companies, including the latest version of the Focus 40.  Now, that, is a 
beautiful device.

Regardless, I was sorely disappointed at not having an opportunity to test 
drive the Orbit Reader 20 Braille display.

And the beat goes on,

Mark

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Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Mark.
   Was this a Focus 5th or a new version? I like the 5th but its not 
being developed enough, it has some minor annoyances.


   Were there any displays from HandyTech?

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On 3/14/2019 10:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Today, I went to the exhibit hall at the 2019 CSUN Assistive Technology
Conference here in southern California.

Among other goals, I was interested in test driving a few Braille displays
for use with my iOS devices.

Imagine my surprise when I arrived at the A.P.H. booth and discovered that
they had no Orbit Reader 20s on hand for visitors to explore.  While I was
there, 2 other people walked up and asked about the Orbit Reader 20 and were
equally disappointed at the lack of a demo model.

I did, however, get a look at an entire host of other BRaile displays, from
other companies, including the latest version of the Focus 40.  Now, that,
is a beautiful device.

Regardless, I was sorely disappointed at not having an opportunity to test
drive the Orbit Reader 20 Braille display.

And the beat goes on,

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Re: Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

[alia robinson]

I am baffled at this device. they never have enough when you order you have to 
wait months. those of us with macs are told to suck it up, and buy a cheap 
windows computer to update our devices! I seriously cannot believe that was 
their advice, or go to the library. so I am supposed to get a sighted friend to 
drive me, and when I called the library said they wouldn’t allow me to download 
software on their machines to update it anyway, so I either have to find a 
friend to update, buy a computer with windows, or go without. the company even 
said we can’t do updates that’s up to you, but if you have a mac too bad. it’s 
supposed to be a device for all, so much for that. Okay, rant over! 


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Hello Everyone,  

Today, I went to the exhibit hall at the 2019 CSUN Assistive Technology
Conference here in southern California.

Among other goals, I was interested in test driving a few Braille displays
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Imagine my surprise when I arrived at the A.P.H. booth and discovered that
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Regardless, I was sorely disappointed at not having an opportunity to test
drive the Orbit Reader 20 Braille display.

And the beat goes on,

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Test Drive an Orbits Reader Display Anyone? I Don't think so

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,  

Today, I went to the exhibit hall at the 2019 CSUN Assistive Technology
Conference here in southern California.

Among other goals, I was interested in test driving a few Braille displays
for use with my iOS devices.

Imagine my surprise when I arrived at the A.P.H. booth and discovered that
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there, 2 other people walked up and asked about the Orbit Reader 20 and were
equally disappointed at the lack of a demo model.

I did, however, get a look at an entire host of other BRaile displays, from
other companies, including the latest version of the Focus 40.  Now, that,
is a beautiful device.

Regardless, I was sorely disappointed at not having an opportunity to test
drive the Orbit Reader 20 Braille display.

And the beat goes on,

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Just a Quick Test. Please Ignore

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Please ignore this test.

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This is just a test Message, Please Ignore

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This is just a test.

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Re: Trying to test Astreos:

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Hi!
I actually had the same problem.
I have had so much to do these days i’ve forgot it.
Thanks a bunch.
/A

> 20 aug. 2018 kl. 19:34 skrev Sharon Hooley :
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> Hello Yuma,
> 
> I was going to test the Astreos app now, but the code has expired.  I didn’t 
> realize how soon it would be gone.  If you’re still testing, can you please 
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> 
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Re: Test

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Loud and clear.

> On Aug 20, 2018, at 9:30 PM, Jenny Bomareto  wrote:
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Test

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Test

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Trying to test Astreos:

[Sharon Hooley]

Hello Yuma,

I was going to test the Astreos app now, but the code has expired.  I didn’t 
realize how soon it would be gone.  If you’re still testing, can you please 
send me another?  I apologize and understand if you are finished.

Thanks again for the opportunity.

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Blind Patients to Test Bionic Eye Brain Implants, MIT Technology Review

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am posting the following article not because it is Apple-related but
because I believe it to be of interest to all of us in this particular
community.  

If interested, I strongly recommend that you read the piece in its entirety
as it pertains to all of us, not just those with a particular type of
blindness.  

Finally, as this thread is off-topic, I request that no replies be posted,
on-list.

Mark

Blind Patients to Test Bionic Eye Brain Implants, MIT Technology Review.

The maker of the world's first commercial artificial retina, which provides
partial sight to people with a certain form of blindness, is launching a
clinical trial for a brain implant designed to restore vision to more
patients.

The company, Second Sight, is testing whether an array of electrodes placed
on the surface of the brain can return limited vision to people who have
gone partially or completely blind. For decades, scientists have been trying
to develop brain implants to give sight back to the blind but have had
limited success. If the Second Sight device works, it could help millions of
blind patients worldwide, including those who have lost one or both eyes.




The device, called the Orion, is a modified version of the company's current
Argus II bionic eye, which involves a pair of glasses outfitted with a
camera and an external processor. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has
granted the company a conditional approval for a small study involving five
patients at two sites, Baylor College of Medicine and the University of
California, Los Angeles. Second Sight still needs to conduct further testing
of the device and answer certain questions before starting the trial but
hopes to begin enrolling patients in October and do its first implant by the
end of the year.

Second Sight first won approval in Europe in 2011 for the Argus II, followed
by an FDA approval in 2013 (see "Bionic Eye Implant Approved for U.S.
Patients"). In Europe, two more retinal prosthetics have since been
approved-one is marketed by French company Pixium Vision and another by
German firm Retina Implant.

Also known as a bionic eye, all three devices are intended to bring back
some vision in patients with a genetic eye disorder called retinitis
pigmentosa. The disease causes gradual vision loss when light-sensing cells
called photoreceptors break down in the retina-the tissue membrane that
coats the back of the eye. An estimated 1.5 million people worldwide,
including about 100,000 people in the U.S., have retinitis pigmentosa. That
is a small percentage of the 39 million people worldwide who are blind,
according to the World Health Organization.


 

A rendering of Second Sight's Orion device, a brain implant that uses most
of the technology from the company's existing device, the Argus II. 

But Robert Greenberg, Second Sight's board chair, says the company has only
sold about 250 of the Argus II devices, a number lower than he expected. The
device costs about $150,000 and restores minimal vision. Only 15 centers in
the U.S. offer the technology, and with competition abroad, Second Sight is
hoping its new brain implant could be used by far more pople.  

Second Sight's Argus II uses a camera mounted on a pair of glasses to
capture images. The images are sent to a small, patient-worn processor,
which uses special software to convert the images into a set of instructions
that are sent to the implanted chip near the retina. Those instructions are
then transmitted as a series of electrical pulses to an array of electrodes,
also implanted around the eye.  

People with retinitis pigmentosa are able to benefit from the device because
the disease destroys only specialized photoreceptors while leaving the
retina's remaining cells intact. These retinal cells are able to transmit
the visual information along the optic nerve to the brain, producing
patterns of light in a patient's field of view.

The new device, the Orion, borrows about 90 percent of its technology from
the Argus II but bypasses the eye. Instead, an array of electrodes is placed
on the surface of the visual cortex, the part of the brain that processes
visual information. Delivering electrical pulses here should tell the brain
to perceive patterns of light.

"In some types of blindness, the optic nerve is damaged so you have to go
downstream. With the Orion, we're essentially replacing the eye and the
optic nerve completely," Greenberg says. With this approach, "anyone who had
vision but has lost it from almost any cause could potentially be helped by
the Orion technology."




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Re: Test

[E.T.]

   Check your filters. You may need to change the criteria that Outlook 
looks for.


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On 5/27/2018 8:58 AM, danielmcgee...@icloud.com wrote:

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

Sorry in advance to the list but have been asked to send a video screen 
shot on the issue to outlook support.


Fingers crossed issue can be figured out.

Daniel




On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 11:02 PM +0100, "Maria Reyes" <mgrp...@gmail.com 
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Another thing I’ve noticed is that when you send an email with the
outlook app your email shows up as the sender name instead of your name.

Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!

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And as I thought, the issue still persists even though have the
latest update to the outlook app for iOS. :(




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[danielmcgee134]

I'm not sure what you mean by that. 
Sorry in advance to the list but have been asked to send a video screen shot on 
the issue to outlook support. 
Fingers crossed issue can be figured out. 
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Another thing I’ve noticed is that when you send an email with the outlook app 
your email shows up as the sender name instead of your name.

Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!
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And as I thought, the issue still persists even though have the 
latest update to the outlook app for iOS. :( 









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Re: Test

[Maria Reyes]

Another thing I’ve noticed is that when you send an email with the outlook app 
your email shows up as the sender name instead of your name.

Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!

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Re: Test

[danielmcgee134]

And as I thought, the issue still persists even though have the 
latest update to the outlook app for iOS. :( 









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Hey all, just a test message to see if outlook for iOS is still 
sending me messages to my inbox rather than the macvisionaries list folder I 
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Hey all, just a test message to see if outlook for iOS is still 
sending me messages to my inbox rather than the macvisionaries list folder I 
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Re: Performing hardware test on my mac mini

[dan d.]

 There is a utility that can be used in terminal to show fan speed and cpu temp 
and battery status.  These can be shown for each or all
desired information.

Once you download and unzip it put it in the appplications folder.

Do istats fan for number of fans and speed only.

Do istats alone to get all information.

Do istats -h to get the usage information for all functions.

Here is the link to download it:

https://github.com/Chris911/iStats/archive/master.zip




On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

> Hi all:
>
> I need urgently to make a hardware scan on my macmini because i doubt that 
> the fan is not working.
> i searched online, and my mac is late 2012, i???m running High sierra.
> I shut down and i hold teh D key while opening as mentioned exactly.
> nothing happened and i didn???t go to the test screen at all.
> i assume tha  the D key that they mentioned is the delete key in the 6 back. 
> but the VOice over keyboard helper told me that the. backslash is the delete 
> key.
> don???t know how, but anyway i tried the both.
>
> any ideas on how to achieve this please?
> thanks so much
>
>

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RE: Do we have voice over when accessing the hardware test?

[Simon Fogarty]

No sorry I've never been able to get vo to work in diagnostic mode.




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No.

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Re: Do we have voice over when accessing the hardware test?

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   No.

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Do we have voice over when accessing the hardware test?

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RE: Performing hardware test on my mac mini

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, there is an app out that gives you stats on your Mac called iStat Menu.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Performing hardware test on my mac mini

Hi,

The key that they are referring to is the actual letter "d" key.  You hold down 
the "d" key on startup and the Mac is put into Diagnostic mode.  All well and 
good, but Diagnostic mode is not accessible with VO, so, you're out of luck 
with this option.  If you are attempting to see if a fan is working, I suggest 
Google searching something like SMC Fan Kit which allows for monitoring and 
modifying internal fan speeds.  You do need to be careful with this app as it 
is only partially accessible and you do not wish to mess with too many of the 
default fan speeds unless you know what you're actually manipulating and the 
consequences of modifying it.

Later...

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Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 16, 2018, at 23:27, Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi 
Still need ur assistant plz.
Thanks in advance 

Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 17, 2018, at 1:44 AM, Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all:

I need urgently to make a hardware scan on my macmini because i doubt that the 
fan is not working.
i searched online, and my mac is late 2012, i’m running High sierra.
I shut down and i hold teh D key while opening as mentioned exactly.
nothing happened and i didn’t go to the test screen at all.
i assume tha  the D key that they mentioned is the delete key in the 6 back. 
but the VOice over keyboard helper told me that the. backslash is the delete 
key.
don’t know how, but anyway i tried the both.

any ideas on how to achieve this please?
thanks so much

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Re: Performing hardware test on my mac mini

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

The key that they are referring to is the actual letter "d" key.  You hold down 
the "d" key on startup and the Mac is put into Diagnostic mode.  All well and 
good, but Diagnostic mode is not accessible with VO, so, you're out of luck 
with this option.  If you are attempting to see if a fan is working, I suggest 
Google searching something like SMC Fan Kit which allows for monitoring and 
modifying internal fan speeds.  You do need to be careful with this app as it 
is only partially accessible and you do not wish to mess with too many of the 
default fan speeds unless you know what you're actually manipulating and the 
consequences of modifying it.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 16, 2018, at 23:27, Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi 
Still need ur assistant plz.
Thanks in advance 

Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 17, 2018, at 1:44 AM, Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> I need urgently to make a hardware scan on my macmini because i doubt that 
> the fan is not working.
> i searched online, and my mac is late 2012, i’m running High sierra.
> I shut down and i hold teh D key while opening as mentioned exactly.
> nothing happened and i didn’t go to the test screen at all.
> i assume tha  the D key that they mentioned is the delete key in the 6 back. 
> but the VOice over keyboard helper told me that the. backslash is the delete 
> key.
> don’t know how, but anyway i tried the both.
> 
> any ideas on how to achieve this please?
> thanks so much

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Re: Performing hardware test on my mac mini

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi 
Still need ur assistant plz.
Thanks in advance 

Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
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music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 17, 2018, at 1:44 AM, Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> I need urgently to make a hardware scan on my macmini because i doubt that 
> the fan is not working.
> i searched online, and my mac is late 2012, i’m running High sierra.
> I shut down and i hold teh D key while opening as mentioned exactly.
> nothing happened and i didn’t go to the test screen at all.
> i assume tha  the D key that they mentioned is the delete key in the 6 back. 
> but the VOice over keyboard helper told me that the. backslash is the delete 
> key.
> don’t know how, but anyway i tried the both.
> 
> any ideas on how to achieve this please?
> thanks so much

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Performing hardware test on my mac mini

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi all:

I need urgently to make a hardware scan on my macmini because i doubt that the 
fan is not working.
i searched online, and my mac is late 2012, i’m running High sierra.
I shut down and i hold teh D key while opening as mentioned exactly.
nothing happened and i didn’t go to the test screen at all.
i assume tha  the D key that they mentioned is the delete key in the 6 back. 
but the VOice over keyboard helper told me that the. backslash is the delete 
key.
don’t know how, but anyway i tried the both.

any ideas on how to achieve this please?
thanks so much 

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Re: test please ignore.

[Jonathan Cohn]

OK, since everybody is jumping on this one, I opened up MacVisionaries on the 
GoogleGroups web site and click on contact owner.

Perhaps either the footer will be corrected or the + routing used by Google 
will be trained to go to the proper place. I am now going to review my own 
GoogleGroups list and see what shows up there.

BTW if anybody wants to discuss AppleScript or automations of Macintosh things 
on a quieter list my Blind Automation list is still available.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 30, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Ok guys and girls,
> 
> What I want to know is 
> 
> Did we pass the test or fail it?
> 
> I'm not sure what I put as an answer for question 3.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2018 8:33 AM
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> Subject: Re: test please ignore.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Came to the entire group Jonathan.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 30, 2018, at 12:23, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Jonathan,
>  Its been verified many times already. Anything addressed to that moderator 
> address goes to the group.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the 
> challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did 
> it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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> On 1/30/2018 11:19 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
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>> Mark if you get this directly it would be great to know.
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RE: test please ignore.

[Simon Fogarty]

Ok guys and girls,

What I want to know is 

Did we pass the test or fail it?

I'm not sure what I put as an answer for question 3.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2018 8:33 AM
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Hi,

Came to the entire group Jonathan.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 30, 2018, at 12:23, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Jonathan,
  Its been verified many times already. Anything addressed to that moderator 
address goes to the group.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the 
challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did 
it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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