Re: The Psychology of technology
I have an iPad mini 4. I have an orbit Reader 20. Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com on behalf of Traci Duncan Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 10:41:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Psychology of technology Oh, the book thing! A couple years ago, I bought an audio book on the day of publication. That was amazing to me. The same day it came out for everyone, I bought it as well. *smiles What is your current iPad model? Also, do you have a braille display? That is a brilliant combo. I use my braille display and iPad mini together constantly. I love it for Duolingo or Memrise lessons. A little braille display and iMessage tip; did you guys know hitting the dot 8 key sends your message off? If you happen to be dictating and hit the dot 8 key, it goes off right away. Lol! I’ve done this on accident and intentionally. ;) If you update your MacBook, at least it’ll be the one with the m1 chip. I’m kind of kicking myself that I bought my MBA just this last Sept. and less than two Months later the m1 chip ones are out. It’s like when you buy something and a week later it is on sale. Lol! Traci > On Dec 10, 2020, at 8:39 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Granted I intend going back to the start of this thread, but I believe > symphony pro runs better in the iPad, especially for inclusive composition, > or so I recall from another list. > > > > On Thu, 10 Dec 2020, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: > >> Thanks for your thoughts on blind folks using Ipads, Donna. I've often >> wondered about that. >> >> Personally, I've never owned one and have no particular desire to get >> one for exactly the reason you cite. I can only see two arguments in >> favor: >> >> *Potential superior speakers for better room filling sound. Is >> *this a fact? Or just a speculative possibility? >> >> *Some apps will run on Ipad, but not on Iphone. To my knowledge >> *this is also false. >> >> So, what's the attraction? >> >> Best, >> >> Janina >> >> 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect >>> world, I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch my >>> funds a little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to >>> sort out which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. That >>> has gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, there’s no >>> question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make much sense. I >>> agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. And, since I >>> can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for me to have an iPad in >>> the first place. But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am very >>> intrigued with the idea of getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t really >>> come up with a good reason why. Everything Joe said in his video is right. >>> The Mac is a much better proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all >>> the screen I need. And, it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the >>> iPad that makes me like it? Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and >>> typing this email on it, not on my Mac and not on my iPhone. >>> >>> This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something >>> that has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, I’d >>> love to hear people’s thoughts. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving
Re: The Psychology of technology
Oh, the book thing! A couple years ago, I bought an audio book on the day of publication. That was amazing to me. The same day it came out for everyone, I bought it as well. *smiles What is your current iPad model? Also, do you have a braille display? That is a brilliant combo. I use my braille display and iPad mini together constantly. I love it for Duolingo or Memrise lessons. A little braille display and iMessage tip; did you guys know hitting the dot 8 key sends your message off? If you happen to be dictating and hit the dot 8 key, it goes off right away. Lol! I’ve done this on accident and intentionally. ;) If you update your MacBook, at least it’ll be the one with the m1 chip. I’m kind of kicking myself that I bought my MBA just this last Sept. and less than two Months later the m1 chip ones are out. It’s like when you buy something and a week later it is on sale. Lol! Traci > On Dec 10, 2020, at 8:39 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Granted I intend going back to the start of this thread, but I believe > symphony pro runs better in the iPad, especially for inclusive composition, > or so I recall from another list. > > > > On Thu, 10 Dec 2020, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: > >> Thanks for your thoughts on blind folks using Ipads, Donna. I've often >> wondered about that. >> >> Personally, I've never owned one and have no particular desire to get >> one for exactly the reason you cite. I can only see two arguments in >> favor: >> >> *Potential superior speakers for better room filling sound. Is >> *this a fact? Or just a speculative possibility? >> >> *Some apps will run on Ipad, but not on Iphone. To my knowledge >> *this is also false. >> >> So, what's the attraction? >> >> Best, >> >> Janina >> >> 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect >>> world, I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch my >>> funds a little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to >>> sort out which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. That >>> has gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, there’s no >>> question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make much sense. I >>> agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. And, since I >>> can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for me to have an iPad in >>> the first place. But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am very >>> intrigued with the idea of getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t really >>> come up with a good reason why. Everything Joe said in his video is right. >>> The Mac is a much better proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all >>> the screen I need. And, it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the >>> iPad that makes me like it? Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and >>> typing this email on it, not on my Mac and not on my iPhone. >>> >>> This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something >>> that has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, I’d >>> love to hear people’s thoughts. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8BA3BFBC-AEFE-418B-843A-008E7B4FB427%40me.com. >> >> -- >> >> Janina Sajka >> https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka >> >> Linux Foundation Fellow >> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org >> >> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) >> Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list mode
Re: The Psychology of technology
Granted I intend going back to the start of this thread, but I believe symphony pro runs better in the iPad, especially for inclusive composition, or so I recall from another list. On Thu, 10 Dec 2020, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: Thanks for your thoughts on blind folks using Ipads, Donna. I've often wondered about that. Personally, I've never owned one and have no particular desire to get one for exactly the reason you cite. I can only see two arguments in favor: * Potential superior speakers for better room filling sound. Is * this a fact? Or just a speculative possibility? * Some apps will run on Ipad, but not on Iphone. To my knowledge * this is also false. So, what's the attraction? Best, Janina 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes: Hi all, This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect world, I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch my funds a little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to sort out which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. That has gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, there’s no question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make much sense. I agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. And, since I can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for me to have an iPad in the first place. But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am very intrigued with the idea of getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t really come up with a good reason why. Everything Joe said in his video is right. The Mac is a much better proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all the screen I need. And, it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the iPad that makes me like it? Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and typing this email on it, not on my Mac and not on my iPhone. This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something that has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, I’d love to hear people’s thoughts. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8BA3BFBC-AEFE-418B-843A-008E7B4FB427%40me.com. -- Janina Sajka https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/20201210114032.GB6538%40rednote.net.
Re: The Psychology of technology
IPad as laptop replacement? I guess it depends on how you define a laptop. Xcode, Apple’s development environment is not available on an iPad, but it is available on a Mac. Since I use Xcode, I couldn’t replace my Mac with an iPad. If you have a laptop that you just use for simple things such as email, reading books and web browsing, I guess you could replace your laptop with an iPad. I could see replacing one of those expensive blindness note takers with an iPad and an affordable Braille display such as an Orbit. Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 6:31:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Psychology of technology Hi Tracy, I totally get the cute factor. Back in the 90s, when I got my first dial-up modem, my husband and I were in the local computer store. We found this cute, tiny modem, and in the middle of the store full of male computer nerds, I cried out, "Oh, it's so cute!" My husband was mortified. lol I still get a kick out of being able to cary around so many books with me, either on my braille display or my i-device. I remember going on vacation as a kid and being able to take only one book, because by the time we put four braille volumes in the car, that was all the room there was. It makes me so happy to know I can now have as many books as I want, wherever I go. And I think you are on to something with the combination of keyboard and touch. I do like that when I want to move quickly to a different part of the screen, I have the option to just reach out and tap it. And yeah. When I think about giving up my laptop, and just having an MBA, I hate the thought of opening up my mail, and seeing work email before I'm even a quarter of the way through my first cup of coffee. It is nice having two devices. So, shiny toy syndrome or not, I think I've decided to upgrade one device this year, and one next. So now the question is ... which one to upgrade first! 🤣 Cheers, Donna > On Dec 10, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Traci Duncan wrote: > > Shiny new toy syndrome, I like that! > > Personally, I love my iPad mini. The size is brilliant. I think this harkens > back to my childhood of wanting to be like the sighted students holding > textbooks or having diaries. It just feels cute in my arms. Silly, I know. > Braille books were huge! There’s the psychology for you. *insert face palm. > > On a more adult level, lol! When a keyboard is paired with the mini it is > like a touch laptop. I like the combo of typing on a keyboard, with the > ability to swipe on the screen. Way back in 2010, I had the original iPad > with a Zagg keyboard case. I thought it was the coolest thing! An accessible > touch laptop. > > I also like having a separate iOs device, so my phone isn’t doing everything. > > Interesting discussion here. > > Traci > > >> On Dec 10, 2020, at 6:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> I fancy both. Lol But I worry that I’ve just got shiny new toy syndrome. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Dec 10, 2020, at 4:15 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> I’ve had a couple of iPads in the past and particularly liked the mini but >>> then I got a MacBook Air as wanted to try one out of curiosity. I find no >>> need for both so no longer use iPad. I prefer typing with my Mac but that’s >>> possibly because the iPad cases with keyboards which I had left a bit to be >>> desired. The upshot: I think I’d like to always have either iPad or >>> MacBook, have no use for both at this time. If you fancy a new iPad in >>> particular then go for it. >>> >>> All the best >>> Angie >>> >>>> On 9 Dec 2020, at 13:32, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect >>>> world, I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch >>>> my funds a little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to >>>> sort out which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. >>>> That has gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, >>>> there’s no question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make >>>> much sense. I agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. >>>> And, since I can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for me to have >>>> an iPad in the first place
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Hi Tracy, I totally get the cute factor. Back in the 90s, when I got my first dial-up modem, my husband and I were in the local computer store. We found this cute, tiny modem, and in the middle of the store full of male computer nerds, I cried out, "Oh, it's so cute!" My husband was mortified. lol I still get a kick out of being able to cary around so many books with me, either on my braille display or my i-device. I remember going on vacation as a kid and being able to take only one book, because by the time we put four braille volumes in the car, that was all the room there was. It makes me so happy to know I can now have as many books as I want, wherever I go. And I think you are on to something with the combination of keyboard and touch. I do like that when I want to move quickly to a different part of the screen, I have the option to just reach out and tap it. And yeah. When I think about giving up my laptop, and just having an MBA, I hate the thought of opening up my mail, and seeing work email before I'm even a quarter of the way through my first cup of coffee. It is nice having two devices. So, shiny toy syndrome or not, I think I've decided to upgrade one device this year, and one next. So now the question is ... which one to upgrade first! 🤣 Cheers, Donna > On Dec 10, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Traci Duncan wrote: > > Shiny new toy syndrome, I like that! > > Personally, I love my iPad mini. The size is brilliant. I think this harkens > back to my childhood of wanting to be like the sighted students holding > textbooks or having diaries. It just feels cute in my arms. Silly, I know. > Braille books were huge! There’s the psychology for you. *insert face palm. > > On a more adult level, lol! When a keyboard is paired with the mini it is > like a touch laptop. I like the combo of typing on a keyboard, with the > ability to swipe on the screen. Way back in 2010, I had the original iPad > with a Zagg keyboard case. I thought it was the coolest thing! An accessible > touch laptop. > > I also like having a separate iOs device, so my phone isn’t doing everything. > > Interesting discussion here. > > Traci > > >> On Dec 10, 2020, at 6:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> I fancy both. Lol But I worry that I’ve just got shiny new toy syndrome. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Dec 10, 2020, at 4:15 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> I’ve had a couple of iPads in the past and particularly liked the mini but >>> then I got a MacBook Air as wanted to try one out of curiosity. I find no >>> need for both so no longer use iPad. I prefer typing with my Mac but that’s >>> possibly because the iPad cases with keyboards which I had left a bit to be >>> desired. The upshot: I think I’d like to always have either iPad or >>> MacBook, have no use for both at this time. If you fancy a new iPad in >>> particular then go for it. >>> >>> All the best >>> Angie >>> On 9 Dec 2020, at 13:32, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi all, This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect world, I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch my funds a little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to sort out which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. That has gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, there’s no question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make much sense. I agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. And, since I can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for me to have an iPad in the first place. But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am very intrigued with the idea of getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t really come up with a good reason why. Everything Joe said in his video is right. The Mac is a much better proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all the screen I need. And, it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the iPad that makes me like it? Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and typing this email on it, not on my Mac and not on my iPhone. This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something that has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, I’d love to hear people’s thoughts. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu an
Re: The Psychology of technology
Shiny new toy syndrome, I like that! Personally, I love my iPad mini. The size is brilliant. I think this harkens back to my childhood of wanting to be like the sighted students holding textbooks or having diaries. It just feels cute in my arms. Silly, I know. Braille books were huge! There’s the psychology for you. *insert face palm. On a more adult level, lol! When a keyboard is paired with the mini it is like a touch laptop. I like the combo of typing on a keyboard, with the ability to swipe on the screen. Way back in 2010, I had the original iPad with a Zagg keyboard case. I thought it was the coolest thing! An accessible touch laptop. I also like having a separate iOs device, so my phone isn’t doing everything. Interesting discussion here. Traci > On Dec 10, 2020, at 6:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > I fancy both. Lol But I worry that I’ve just got shiny new toy syndrome. > Cheers, > Donna > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 10, 2020, at 4:15 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> I’ve had a couple of iPads in the past and particularly liked the mini but >> then I got a MacBook Air as wanted to try one out of curiosity. I find no >> need for both so no longer use iPad. I prefer typing with my Mac but that’s >> possibly because the iPad cases with keyboards which I had left a bit to be >> desired. The upshot: I think I’d like to always have either iPad or MacBook, >> have no use for both at this time. If you fancy a new iPad in particular >> then go for it. >> >> All the best >> Angie >> >>> On 9 Dec 2020, at 13:32, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect >>> world, I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch my >>> funds a little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to >>> sort out which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. That >>> has gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, there’s no >>> question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make much sense. I >>> agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. And, since I >>> can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for me to have an iPad in >>> the first place. But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am very >>> intrigued with the idea of getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t really >>> come up with a good reason why. Everything Joe said in his video is right. >>> The Mac is a much better proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all >>> the screen I need. And, it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the >>> iPad that makes me like it? Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and >>> typing this email on it, not on my Mac and not on my iPhone. >>> >>> This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something >>> that has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, I’d >>> love to hear people’s thoughts. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8BA3BFBC-AEFE-418B-843A-008E7B4FB427%40me.com. >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@g
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I fancy both. Lol But I worry that I’ve just got shiny new toy syndrome. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad > On Dec 10, 2020, at 4:15 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: > > Hi > > I’ve had a couple of iPads in the past and particularly liked the mini but > then I got a MacBook Air as wanted to try one out of curiosity. I find no > need for both so no longer use iPad. I prefer typing with my Mac but that’s > possibly because the iPad cases with keyboards which I had left a bit to be > desired. The upshot: I think I’d like to always have either iPad or MacBook, > have no use for both at this time. If you fancy a new iPad in particular then > go for it. > > All the best > Angie > >> On 9 Dec 2020, at 13:32, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect world, >> I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch my funds a >> little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to sort out >> which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. That has >> gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, there’s no >> question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make much sense. I >> agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. And, since I >> can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for me to have an iPad in the >> first place. But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am very intrigued >> with the idea of getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t really come up >> with a good reason why. Everything Joe said in his video is right. The Mac >> is a much better proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all the >> screen I need. And, it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the iPad >> that makes me like it? Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and typing >> this email on it, not on my Mac and not on my iPhone. >> >> This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something >> that has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, I’d >> love to hear people’s thoughts. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8BA3BFBC-AEFE-418B-843A-008E7B4FB427%40me.com. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/6278043C-CCAF-4E16-9288-37E13B1E53E1%40comproom.co.uk. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisiona
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Obviously, I’m not entirely sure, hence my post. :) What I can say concretely is: I love that it’s smaller and lighter. I have mine paired with a Logitech keyboard which also serves as a case for the iPad. So the whole package is one very portable unit. Though for the reasons I wrote a minute ago, it doesn’t quite feel like a laptop, I love that I can open Pages, work on a document, and then play a game on the same device. Theoretically that would now be possible on the MBA, but I’m unclear at this point whether all iPhone apps will work on the Mac. Joe has found that the Blindfold games do not, and I do have several of those on my i-devices. I upgraded my phone to the 12 mini, so yeah, the speakers on my iPad are definitely bigger and better. The keyboard on my iPad has function keys, where my Mac does not, though that would change if I got the MBA. And, last but not least, I like the price tag. Lol Even if I went for the iPad Air, it’d still be cheaper. That’s what I’ve got for now. :) Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad > On Dec 10, 2020, at 5:40 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Thanks for your thoughts on blind folks using Ipads, Donna. I've often > wondered about that. > > Personally, I've never owned one and have no particular desire to get > one for exactly the reason you cite. I can only see two arguments in > favor: > > *Potential superior speakers for better room filling sound. Is > *this a fact? Or just a speculative possibility? > > *Some apps will run on Ipad, but not on Iphone. To my knowledge > *this is also false. > > So, what's the attraction? > > Best, > > Janina > > 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes: >> Hi all, >> >> This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect world, >> I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch my funds a >> little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to sort out >> which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. That has >> gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, there’s no >> question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make much sense. I >> agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. And, since I >> can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for me to have an iPad in the >> first place. But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am very intrigued >> with the idea of getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t really come up >> with a good reason why. Everything Joe said in his video is right. The Mac >> is a much better proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all the >> screen I need. And, it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the iPad >> that makes me like it? Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and typing >> this email on it, not on my Mac and not on my iPhone. >> >> This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something >> that has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, I’d >> love to hear people’s thoughts. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8BA3BFBC-AEFE-418B-843A-008E7B4FB427%40me.com. > > -- > > Janina Sajka > https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka > > Linux Foundation Fellow > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectureshttp://www.w3.org/wai/apa > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be sear
Re: The Psychology of technology
I would say it’s somewhere in between. The iPad is slower, for one thing, and I find bluetooth keyboards—or at least mine, I don’t have the Apple Magic keyboard—to be a little bit less efficient than just using the keyboard on my Mac. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad > On Dec 10, 2020, at 5:42 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > To my mind an Ipad with an attached keyboard is more comparable to a > laptop than to an Iphone. Am I wrong about that? > > Best, > > Janina > > 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes: >> Why I like it is precisely the question I’m having trouble answering. One >> thing, I think, is the attached keyboard. It makes it feel more like I’m >> using a computer. Second, I think of my iPad as a fun device, so I think I >> associate it more with relaxation, and less with work. But in and of >> themselves, neither of those are very compelling reasons to upgrade. I could >> pair this same keyboard with my phone, and have a faster device, and also >> the experience of using a nonwork associated device. >> >> As much as anything I’m just very curious about this. But I suppose we all >> make purchase decisions that are based more on emotion than rationality. And >> yes, I probably will just cave and upgrade my iPad. Lol >> >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:35 AM, Brandon Olivares wrote: >>> >>> Interesting. Curious what you like about your iPad so much? I’ve often had >>> the same thought, that there’s not much point to an iPad for the blind. I >>> have a MacBook Pro, an iPhone, and an Apple Watch, but never felt the need >>> for an iPad. >>> >>> But hey, if you enjoy it, and feel joy in the thought of upgrading it, then >>> go for it. Who says it has to have a good reason or to be absolutely >>> “rational”? >>> >>> Brandon >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi all, This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect world, I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch my funds a little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to sort out which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. That has gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, there’s no question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make much sense. I agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. And, since I can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for me to have an iPad in the first place. But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am very intrigued with the idea of getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t really come up with a good reason why. Everything Joe said in his video is right. The Mac is a much better proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all the screen I need. And, it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the iPad that makes me like it? Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and typing this email on it, not on my Mac and not on my iPhone. This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something that has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, I’d love to hear people’s thoughts. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8BA3BFBC-AEFE-418B-843A-008E7B4FB427%40me.com. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu
Re: The Psychology of technology
To my mind an Ipad with an attached keyboard is more comparable to a laptop than to an Iphone. Am I wrong about that? Best, Janina 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes: > Why I like it is precisely the question I’m having trouble answering. One > thing, I think, is the attached keyboard. It makes it feel more like I’m > using a computer. Second, I think of my iPad as a fun device, so I think I > associate it more with relaxation, and less with work. But in and of > themselves, neither of those are very compelling reasons to upgrade. I could > pair this same keyboard with my phone, and have a faster device, and also the > experience of using a nonwork associated device. > > As much as anything I’m just very curious about this. But I suppose we all > make purchase decisions that are based more on emotion than rationality. And > yes, I probably will just cave and upgrade my iPad. Lol > > Cheers, > Donna > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:35 AM, Brandon Olivares > > wrote: > > > > Interesting. Curious what you like about your iPad so much? I’ve often had > > the same thought, that there’s not much point to an iPad for the blind. I > > have a MacBook Pro, an iPhone, and an Apple Watch, but never felt the need > > for an iPad. > > > > But hey, if you enjoy it, and feel joy in the thought of upgrading it, then > > go for it. Who says it has to have a good reason or to be absolutely > > “rational”? > > > > Brandon > > > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > >> wrote: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect > >> world, I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch > >> my funds a little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to > >> sort out which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. > >> That has gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, > >> there’s no question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make > >> much sense. I agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. > >> And, since I can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for me to have > >> an iPad in the first place. But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am > >> very intrigued with the idea of getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t > >> really come up with a good reason why. Everything Joe said in his video is > >> right. The Mac is a much better proeductivity device, and the iPhone is > >> really all the screen I need. And, it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it > >> about the iPad that makes me like it? Notice I’m sitting here drinking my > >> coffee and typing this email on it, not on my Mac and not on my iPhone. > >> > >> This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something > >> that has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, > >> I’d love to hear people’s thoughts. > >> Cheers, > >> Donna > >> > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >> -- > >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac > >> Visionaries list. > >> > >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >> > >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > >> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >> > >> The archives for this list can be searched at: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > >> --- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8BA3BFBC-AEFE-418B-843A-008E7B4FB427%40me.com. > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > > Visionaries list. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.co
Re: The Psychology of technology
Thanks for your thoughts on blind folks using Ipads, Donna. I've often wondered about that. Personally, I've never owned one and have no particular desire to get one for exactly the reason you cite. I can only see two arguments in favor: * Potential superior speakers for better room filling sound. Is * this a fact? Or just a speculative possibility? * Some apps will run on Ipad, but not on Iphone. To my knowledge * this is also false. So, what's the attraction? Best, Janina 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes: > Hi all, > > This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect world, > I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch my funds a > little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to sort out > which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. That has gotten > me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, there’s no question about > that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make much sense. I agree with Joe, > that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. And, since I can’t see the > screen, there’s really no reason for me to have an iPad in the first place. > But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am very intrigued with the idea of > getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t really come up with a good reason > why. Everything Joe said in his video is right. The Mac is a much better > proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all the screen I need. And, > it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the iPad that makes me like it? > Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and typing this email on it, not > on my Mac and not on my iPhone. > > This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something that > has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, I’d love > to hear people’s thoughts. > Cheers, > Donna > > > Sent from my iPad > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8BA3BFBC-AEFE-418B-843A-008E7B4FB427%40me.com. -- Janina Sajka https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/20201210114032.GB6538%40rednote.net.
Re: The Psychology of technology
Hi I’ve had a couple of iPads in the past and particularly liked the mini but then I got a MacBook Air as wanted to try one out of curiosity. I find no need for both so no longer use iPad. I prefer typing with my Mac but that’s possibly because the iPad cases with keyboards which I had left a bit to be desired. The upshot: I think I’d like to always have either iPad or MacBook, have no use for both at this time. If you fancy a new iPad in particular then go for it. All the best Angie > On 9 Dec 2020, at 13:32, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi all, > > This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect world, > I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch my funds a > little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to sort out > which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. That has gotten > me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, there’s no question about > that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make much sense. I agree with Joe, > that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. And, since I can’t see the > screen, there’s really no reason for me to have an iPad in the first place. > But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am very intrigued with the idea of > getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t really come up with a good reason > why. Everything Joe said in his video is right. The Mac is a much better > proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all the screen I need. And, > it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the iPad that makes me like it? > Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and typing this email on it, not > on my Mac and not on my iPhone. > > This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something that > has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, I’d love > to hear people’s thoughts. > Cheers, > Donna > > > Sent from my iPad > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8BA3BFBC-AEFE-418B-843A-008E7B4FB427%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/6278043C-CCAF-4E16-9288-37E13B1E53E1%40comproom.co.uk.
Re: The Psychology of technology
Donna -> Let’s just hope we have a better future. 😊 Anders Holmber -> Hi, I think you need Music app to be able to use keyboard shortcuts for Music as well. I didn’t give it a try. I have Touch Bar here, and it is very convenient in controlling music with whatever app running at the time of tabbing on Touch Bar. Mac is powerful especially for programmers and terminal users. It is preferable to know how to use terminal on Mac in order to like your Mac more and more and never think of switching. Since iOS users are much more than Mac, so supporting accessibility on iOS has higher priority. This may change by the time since Apple is unifying their systems’ interfaces and user experience. So, the future may be much better as long as they consider accessibility in it. Regards, Mohamed E. Fayed > On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:22 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > Hmm, this is very interesting. > I sometimes like my iPad mini 4 more than my Mac. > But that depends on what I do. > Its easier to start listening to radio and music and other things on your iOS > device I think. > However my Mac is great when it comes to mail and such things. > I am a braille user and to me iOS has far far better braille support than > the Mac OS has. > Nothing is straight forward with the Mac even though its a powerful unit. > /A > >> 9 dec. 2020 kl. 14:32 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> : >> >> Hi all, >> >> This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect world, >> I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch my funds a >> little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to sort out >> which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. That has >> gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, there’s no >> question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make much sense. I >> agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. And, since I >> can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for me to have an iPad in the >> first place. But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am very intrigued >> with the idea of getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t really come up >> with a good reason why. Everything Joe said in his video is right. The Mac >> is a much better proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all the >> screen I need. And, it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the iPad >> that makes me like it? Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and typing >> this email on it, not on my Mac and not on my iPhone. >> >> This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something >> that has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, I’d >> love to hear people’s thoughts. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8BA3BFBC-AEFE-418B-843A-008E7B4FB427%40me.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/E431C252-7AB6-44C6-8BB8-54A6D5659AFD%40pipkrokodil.se. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about
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Hi! Hmm, this is very interesting. I sometimes like my iPad mini 4 more than my Mac. But that depends on what I do. Its easier to start listening to radio and music and other things on your iOS device I think. However my Mac is great when it comes to mail and such things. I am a braille user and to me iOS has far far better braille support than the Mac OS has. Nothing is straight forward with the Mac even though its a powerful unit. /A > 9 dec. 2020 kl. 14:32 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > : > > Hi all, > > This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect world, > I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch my funds a > little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to sort out > which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. That has gotten > me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, there’s no question about > that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make much sense. I agree with Joe, > that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. And, since I can’t see the > screen, there’s really no reason for me to have an iPad in the first place. > But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am very intrigued with the idea of > getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t really come up with a good reason > why. Everything Joe said in his video is right. The Mac is a much better > proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all the screen I need. And, > it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the iPad that makes me like it? > Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and typing this email on it, not > on my Mac and not on my iPhone. > > This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something that > has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, I’d love > to hear people’s thoughts. > Cheers, > Donna > > > Sent from my iPad > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8BA3BFBC-AEFE-418B-843A-008E7B4FB427%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/E431C252-7AB6-44C6-8BB8-54A6D5659AFD%40pipkrokodil.se.
Re: The Psychology of technology
Not to worry, I’ve got one that used to be the Horizon control for Aira, until the glasses were discontinued, and I’m not sure how I feel about it. I’ve never used it as a phone, but have played around with it enough to say I have a love/hate relationship with it. I love the fact that perfect example, it will allow me to access features within the Credit Union app I bank with that Voiceover refuses to read, however, the whole gesture layout is so confusing, I don’t see myself ever switching to android completely. > On Dec 9, 2020, at 2:11 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Well, for what it's worth, I had an Android phone several years ago and hated > it. :) Sorry you don't have more choices, though. Choice is always a good > thing. > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 1:08 PM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: >> >> It lags behind in Arabic SPEcifically. My friend has bought Huawei android >> phone on summer 2018. I asked him whether Arabic is in the set of support >> languages, but it hadn’t exist yet. >> By chance, I discovered that it is supported on another Smart phone running >> android 8, but with poor performance in detecting the language. I can’t >> reach Android 11 now to test again. >> On the other hand, iPhone 5s works pretty well. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Mohamed E. Fated >> >> Mohamed E. Fayed >> >> >>> On 9 Dec 2020, at 7:32 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> That's interesting. I'm surprised that Android doesn't offer the same >>> options for language switching. Glad you were able to get an iPhone, though. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: Great that it helps. 😄 Unfortunately, we are taught in school what is useful to work. But we are not taught how to do it efficiently. Actually, I inspired it from our apartment. I have to work and sleep within the same room. Working on bed causes me issues in focus and sometimes can’t sleep well. So, I learned to separate position and status while changing your mood as well. Generally, change your environment. As blind, we can’t move around much, so changing devices may do the trick. Anyway, it is the customer decision to buy what. I live in North Africa. The mother tongue is Arabic and not everyone is talking or writing in English. So, the only choice for me and the blind people is iPhone because it is fluid in switching languages. Buying iPhone is quiet a difficult choice because of exchange rate and taxes. But, no one can tell me that I did the wrong thing. It is just suitable for me. It is that easy. Humans are different and will never be the same and its our duty to respect these differences, adapt and help each other to improve all-together . The only reason to change our opinion is to find better solutions. And that is why you started this conversation. Now, I hope that you can make a decision that will make you satisfied and happy with your purchase. 😊 Regards, Mohamed E. Fayed >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:59 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: > > Given your job, I can see how it could so easily spill over into your > personal time. In your position, I'd definitely want separate work and > personal devices. > > Glad you think this is a good topic. I was a little worried that some > might think it too far afield. There's an Episode of Big Bang Theory > where one of the characters, Raj, says something like, "Apple keeps > making stuff, and we keep buying it. That's why I have the iPad Pro, the > mini, the Air, and now I'm going to by the new iPad." It was funny, but > also very true, especially for cultures as consumer-driven as we are here > in the U.S. I don't have a problem with upgrading both devices, but I do > think it's important to think about why we buy stuff, especially when > that stuff is as expensive as these things are. > Cheers, > Donna > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:39 AM, joseph hodge wrote: >> >> I definitely understand this point! Due to Covid and working from home I >> think it's more important than ever to have separate devices from work >> and personal. As a blind person this can be a bit challenging because I >> use my personal phone to test things at work as well as my personal >> devices sometimes just because testing is very personal. That all being >> said I was definitely maxing myself out because I would open up Mail on >> my iPhone and see a bunch of work related emails and just answer them on >> my time off I understand if there's a toggle where I can turn mail off >> or even view by inbox but I just like doing everything at once where are >> my Mac and my iPad I tend to just
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Well, for what it's worth, I had an Android phone several years ago and hated it. :) Sorry you don't have more choices, though. Choice is always a good thing. Cheers, Donna > On Dec 9, 2020, at 1:08 PM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: > > It lags behind in Arabic SPEcifically. My friend has bought Huawei android > phone on summer 2018. I asked him whether Arabic is in the set of support > languages, but it hadn’t exist yet. > By chance, I discovered that it is supported on another Smart phone running > android 8, but with poor performance in detecting the language. I can’t reach > Android 11 now to test again. > On the other hand, iPhone 5s works pretty well. > > > Regards, > > Mohamed E. Fated > > Mohamed E. Fayed > > >> On 9 Dec 2020, at 7:32 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> That's interesting. I'm surprised that Android doesn't offer the same >> options for language switching. Glad you were able to get an iPhone, though. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: >>> >>> Great that it helps. 😄 >>> >>> Unfortunately, we are taught in school what is useful to work. But we are >>> not taught how to do it efficiently. Actually, I inspired it from our >>> apartment. I have to work and sleep within the same room. Working on bed >>> causes me issues in focus and sometimes can’t sleep well. So, I learned to >>> separate position and status while changing your mood as well. Generally, >>> change your environment. >>> >>> As blind, we can’t move around much, so changing devices may do the trick. >>> >>> Anyway, it is the customer decision to buy what. I live in North Africa. >>> The mother tongue is Arabic and not everyone is talking or writing in >>> English. So, the only choice for me and the blind people is iPhone because >>> it is fluid in switching languages. Buying iPhone is quiet a difficult >>> choice because of exchange rate and taxes. But, no one can tell me that I >>> did the wrong thing. It is just suitable for me. It is that easy. Humans >>> are different and will never be the same and its our duty to respect these >>> differences, adapt and help each other to improve all-together . The only >>> reason to change our opinion is to find better solutions. And that is why >>> you started this conversation. >>> >>> Now, I hope that you can make a decision that will make you satisfied and >>> happy with your purchase. 😊 >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Mohamed E. Fayed >>> > On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:59 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: Given your job, I can see how it could so easily spill over into your personal time. In your position, I'd definitely want separate work and personal devices. Glad you think this is a good topic. I was a little worried that some might think it too far afield. There's an Episode of Big Bang Theory where one of the characters, Raj, says something like, "Apple keeps making stuff, and we keep buying it. That's why I have the iPad Pro, the mini, the Air, and now I'm going to by the new iPad." It was funny, but also very true, especially for cultures as consumer-driven as we are here in the U.S. I don't have a problem with upgrading both devices, but I do think it's important to think about why we buy stuff, especially when that stuff is as expensive as these things are. Cheers, Donna > On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:39 AM, joseph hodge wrote: > > I definitely understand this point! Due to Covid and working from home I > think it's more important than ever to have separate devices from work > and personal. As a blind person this can be a bit challenging because I > use my personal phone to test things at work as well as my personal > devices sometimes just because testing is very personal. That all being > said I was definitely maxing myself out because I would open up Mail on > my iPhone and see a bunch of work related emails and just answer them on > my time off I understand if there's a toggle where I can turn mail off or > even view by inbox but I just like doing everything at once where are my > Mac and my iPad I tend to just use my personal emails so I'm not > bombarded with my work stuff there and it's made a world of difference! I > think this is a great conversation! And a good topic to think about! > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:35 AM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: >> >> Based on the last message, I think iPad is better, because it feels, as >> a hardware, different from your MacBook. That’s in addition to using it >> for fun only. >> >> Another thing you may try is to try a light weight MacBook and see >> whether you feel the difference between it and your work MBP in the same >> amount of difference between the iPad and your work MBP. >> >> The greater the differ
Re: The Psychology of technology
It lags behind in Arabic SPEcifically. My friend has bought Huawei android phone on summer 2018. I asked him whether Arabic is in the set of support languages, but it hadn’t exist yet. By chance, I discovered that it is supported on another Smart phone running android 8, but with poor performance in detecting the language. I can’t reach Android 11 now to test again. On the other hand, iPhone 5s works pretty well. Regards, Mohamed E. Fated Mohamed E. Fayed > On 9 Dec 2020, at 7:32 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > That's interesting. I'm surprised that Android doesn't offer the same > options for language switching. Glad you were able to get an iPhone, though. > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: >> >> Great that it helps. 😄 >> >> Unfortunately, we are taught in school what is useful to work. But we are >> not taught how to do it efficiently. Actually, I inspired it from our >> apartment. I have to work and sleep within the same room. Working on bed >> causes me issues in focus and sometimes can’t sleep well. So, I learned to >> separate position and status while changing your mood as well. Generally, >> change your environment. >> >> As blind, we can’t move around much, so changing devices may do the trick. >> >> Anyway, it is the customer decision to buy what. I live in North Africa. The >> mother tongue is Arabic and not everyone is talking or writing in English. >> So, the only choice for me and the blind people is iPhone because it is >> fluid in switching languages. Buying iPhone is quiet a difficult choice >> because of exchange rate and taxes. But, no one can tell me that I did the >> wrong thing. It is just suitable for me. It is that easy. Humans are >> different and will never be the same and its our duty to respect these >> differences, adapt and help each other to improve all-together . The only >> reason to change our opinion is to find better solutions. And that is why >> you started this conversation. >> >> Now, I hope that you can make a decision that will make you satisfied and >> happy with your purchase. 😊 >> >> Regards, >> >> Mohamed E. Fayed >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:59 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>> >>> Given your job, I can see how it could so easily spill over into your >>> personal time. In your position, I'd definitely want separate work and >>> personal devices. >>> >>> Glad you think this is a good topic. I was a little worried that some might >>> think it too far afield. There's an Episode of Big Bang Theory where one of >>> the characters, Raj, says something like, "Apple keeps making stuff, and we >>> keep buying it. That's why I have the iPad Pro, the mini, the Air, and now >>> I'm going to by the new iPad." It was funny, but also very true, especially >>> for cultures as consumer-driven as we are here in the U.S. I don't have a >>> problem with upgrading both devices, but I do think it's important to think >>> about why we buy stuff, especially when that stuff is as expensive as these >>> things are. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:39 AM, joseph hodge wrote: I definitely understand this point! Due to Covid and working from home I think it's more important than ever to have separate devices from work and personal. As a blind person this can be a bit challenging because I use my personal phone to test things at work as well as my personal devices sometimes just because testing is very personal. That all being said I was definitely maxing myself out because I would open up Mail on my iPhone and see a bunch of work related emails and just answer them on my time off I understand if there's a toggle where I can turn mail off or even view by inbox but I just like doing everything at once where are my Mac and my iPad I tend to just use my personal emails so I'm not bombarded with my work stuff there and it's made a world of difference! I think this is a great conversation! And a good topic to think about! > On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:35 AM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: > > Based on the last message, I think iPad is better, because it feels, as a > hardware, different from your MacBook. That’s in addition to using it for > fun only. > > Another thing you may try is to try a light weight MacBook and see > whether you feel the difference between it and your work MBP in the same > amount of difference between the iPad and your work MBP. > > The greater the difference between the device of work and fun, the > greater your happiness with fun device. > > How about iPhone? It depends on you. If your work includes more than a > call to your colleagues, like sending messages, and you like to send > messages to your friends to make you happy, then iPhone won’t be a good > replacement
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That's interesting. I'm surprised that Android doesn't offer the same options for language switching. Glad you were able to get an iPhone, though. Cheers, Donna > On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: > > Great that it helps. 😄 > > Unfortunately, we are taught in school what is useful to work. But we are not > taught how to do it efficiently. Actually, I inspired it from our apartment. > I have to work and sleep within the same room. Working on bed causes me > issues in focus and sometimes can’t sleep well. So, I learned to separate > position and status while changing your mood as well. Generally, change your > environment. > > As blind, we can’t move around much, so changing devices may do the trick. > > Anyway, it is the customer decision to buy what. I live in North Africa. The > mother tongue is Arabic and not everyone is talking or writing in English. > So, the only choice for me and the blind people is iPhone because it is fluid > in switching languages. Buying iPhone is quiet a difficult choice because of > exchange rate and taxes. But, no one can tell me that I did the wrong thing. > It is just suitable for me. It is that easy. Humans are different and will > never be the same and its our duty to respect these differences, adapt and > help each other to improve all-together . The only reason to change our > opinion is to find better solutions. And that is why you started this > conversation. > > Now, I hope that you can make a decision that will make you satisfied and > happy with your purchase. 😊 > > Regards, > > Mohamed E. Fayed > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:59 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Given your job, I can see how it could so easily spill over into your >> personal time. In your position, I'd definitely want separate work and >> personal devices. >> >> Glad you think this is a good topic. I was a little worried that some might >> think it too far afield. There's an Episode of Big Bang Theory where one of >> the characters, Raj, says something like, "Apple keeps making stuff, and we >> keep buying it. That's why I have the iPad Pro, the mini, the Air, and now >> I'm going to by the new iPad." It was funny, but also very true, especially >> for cultures as consumer-driven as we are here in the U.S. I don't have a >> problem with upgrading both devices, but I do think it's important to think >> about why we buy stuff, especially when that stuff is as expensive as these >> things are. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:39 AM, joseph hodge wrote: >>> >>> I definitely understand this point! Due to Covid and working from home I >>> think it's more important than ever to have separate devices from work and >>> personal. As a blind person this can be a bit challenging because I use my >>> personal phone to test things at work as well as my personal devices >>> sometimes just because testing is very personal. That all being said I was >>> definitely maxing myself out because I would open up Mail on my iPhone and >>> see a bunch of work related emails and just answer them on my time off I >>> understand if there's a toggle where I can turn mail off or even view by >>> inbox but I just like doing everything at once where are my Mac and my iPad >>> I tend to just use my personal emails so I'm not bombarded with my work >>> stuff there and it's made a world of difference! I think this is a great >>> conversation! And a good topic to think about! >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:35 AM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: Based on the last message, I think iPad is better, because it feels, as a hardware, different from your MacBook. That’s in addition to using it for fun only. Another thing you may try is to try a light weight MacBook and see whether you feel the difference between it and your work MBP in the same amount of difference between the iPad and your work MBP. The greater the difference between the device of work and fun, the greater your happiness with fun device. How about iPhone? It depends on you. If your work includes more than a call to your colleagues, like sending messages, and you like to send messages to your friends to make you happy, then iPhone won’t be a good replacement. You may try it also for a couple of days before making your mind. Have a great new device. 😄 Regards, Mohamed E. Fayed > On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:26 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > I think you’re right. And I deliberately don’t put my work email on it, > so I know I’ll never be interrupted by work stuff. Like Joe, I think I > like having a secondary iOs device, and reserving it exclusively for > personal ie.e. Nonwork use. > Cheers, > Donna > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Muhammad Faye
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Great that it helps. 😄 Unfortunately, we are taught in school what is useful to work. But we are not taught how to do it efficiently. Actually, I inspired it from our apartment. I have to work and sleep within the same room. Working on bed causes me issues in focus and sometimes can’t sleep well. So, I learned to separate position and status while changing your mood as well. Generally, change your environment. As blind, we can’t move around much, so changing devices may do the trick. Anyway, it is the customer decision to buy what. I live in North Africa. The mother tongue is Arabic and not everyone is talking or writing in English. So, the only choice for me and the blind people is iPhone because it is fluid in switching languages. Buying iPhone is quiet a difficult choice because of exchange rate and taxes. But, no one can tell me that I did the wrong thing. It is just suitable for me. It is that easy. Humans are different and will never be the same and its our duty to respect these differences, adapt and help each other to improve all-together . The only reason to change our opinion is to find better solutions. And that is why you started this conversation. Now, I hope that you can make a decision that will make you satisfied and happy with your purchase. 😊 Regards, Mohamed E. Fayed > On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:59 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Given your job, I can see how it could so easily spill over into your > personal time. In your position, I'd definitely want separate work and > personal devices. > > Glad you think this is a good topic. I was a little worried that some might > think it too far afield. There's an Episode of Big Bang Theory where one of > the characters, Raj, says something like, "Apple keeps making stuff, and we > keep buying it. That's why I have the iPad Pro, the mini, the Air, and now > I'm going to by the new iPad." It was funny, but also very true, especially > for cultures as consumer-driven as we are here in the U.S. I don't have a > problem with upgrading both devices, but I do think it's important to think > about why we buy stuff, especially when that stuff is as expensive as these > things are. > Cheers, > Donna > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:39 AM, joseph hodge wrote: >> >> I definitely understand this point! Due to Covid and working from home I >> think it's more important than ever to have separate devices from work and >> personal. As a blind person this can be a bit challenging because I use my >> personal phone to test things at work as well as my personal devices >> sometimes just because testing is very personal. That all being said I was >> definitely maxing myself out because I would open up Mail on my iPhone and >> see a bunch of work related emails and just answer them on my time off I >> understand if there's a toggle where I can turn mail off or even view by >> inbox but I just like doing everything at once where are my Mac and my iPad >> I tend to just use my personal emails so I'm not bombarded with my work >> stuff there and it's made a world of difference! I think this is a great >> conversation! And a good topic to think about! >> >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:35 AM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: >>> >>> Based on the last message, I think iPad is better, because it feels, as a >>> hardware, different from your MacBook. That’s in addition to using it for >>> fun only. >>> >>> Another thing you may try is to try a light weight MacBook and see whether >>> you feel the difference between it and your work MBP in the same amount of >>> difference between the iPad and your work MBP. >>> >>> The greater the difference between the device of work and fun, the greater >>> your happiness with fun device. >>> >>> How about iPhone? It depends on you. If your work includes more than a call >>> to your colleagues, like sending messages, and you like to send messages to >>> your friends to make you happy, then iPhone won’t be a good replacement. >>> You may try it also for a couple of days before making your mind. >>> >>> Have a great new device. 😄 >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Mohamed E. Fayed >>> >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:26 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: I think you’re right. And I deliberately don’t put my work email on it, so I know I’ll never be interrupted by work stuff. Like Joe, I think I like having a secondary iOs device, and reserving it exclusively for personal ie.e. Nonwork use. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad > On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: > > Regarding liking to type emails, You may compare typing on iPhone, iPad > and Mac. I think you consider typing on iPad more immersive and enjoyable. > > Regards, > > Mohamed E. Fayed > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:09 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Well, at least you have
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Given your job, I can see how it could so easily spill over into your personal time. In your position, I'd definitely want separate work and personal devices. Glad you think this is a good topic. I was a little worried that some might think it too far afield. There's an Episode of Big Bang Theory where one of the characters, Raj, says something like, "Apple keeps making stuff, and we keep buying it. That's why I have the iPad Pro, the mini, the Air, and now I'm going to by the new iPad." It was funny, but also very true, especially for cultures as consumer-driven as we are here in the U.S. I don't have a problem with upgrading both devices, but I do think it's important to think about why we buy stuff, especially when that stuff is as expensive as these things are. Cheers, Donna > On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:39 AM, joseph hodge wrote: > > I definitely understand this point! Due to Covid and working from home I > think it's more important than ever to have separate devices from work and > personal. As a blind person this can be a bit challenging because I use my > personal phone to test things at work as well as my personal devices > sometimes just because testing is very personal. That all being said I was > definitely maxing myself out because I would open up Mail on my iPhone and > see a bunch of work related emails and just answer them on my time off I > understand if there's a toggle where I can turn mail off or even view by > inbox but I just like doing everything at once where are my Mac and my iPad I > tend to just use my personal emails so I'm not bombarded with my work stuff > there and it's made a world of difference! I think this is a great > conversation! And a good topic to think about! > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:35 AM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: >> >> Based on the last message, I think iPad is better, because it feels, as a >> hardware, different from your MacBook. That’s in addition to using it for >> fun only. >> >> Another thing you may try is to try a light weight MacBook and see whether >> you feel the difference between it and your work MBP in the same amount of >> difference between the iPad and your work MBP. >> >> The greater the difference between the device of work and fun, the greater >> your happiness with fun device. >> >> How about iPhone? It depends on you. If your work includes more than a call >> to your colleagues, like sending messages, and you like to send messages to >> your friends to make you happy, then iPhone won’t be a good replacement. You >> may try it also for a couple of days before making your mind. >> >> Have a great new device. 😄 >> >> Regards, >> >> Mohamed E. Fayed >> >> >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:26 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> I think you’re right. And I deliberately don’t put my work email on it, so >>> I know I’ll never be interrupted by work stuff. Like Joe, I think I like >>> having a secondary iOs device, and reserving it exclusively for personal >>> ie.e. Nonwork use. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: Regarding liking to type emails, You may compare typing on iPhone, iPad and Mac. I think you consider typing on iPad more immersive and enjoyable. Regards, Mohamed E. Fayed > On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:09 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Well, at least you have a concrete, separate use for yours. I really > don’t. The one thing I can name is that I tend to prefer doing things > that involve more typing—such as writing emails like this—on my iPad > (hence my interest in the Mantis.) My brain just doesn’t formulate > complex written responses when I’m dictating. I’m fine with short things > like brief emails or FB posts, but if I tried to dictate a message like > this, I’d end up sounding like an idiot. 😀 > Cheers, > Donna > Sent from my iPad > >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:53 AM, joseph hodge wrote: >> >> Man I’ve made so many mistakes when it comes to iPads. I like having a >> secondary IOS device. I bought the pro but really feel its got so many >> drawbacks. I blame marketing for this, because they do make it out to be >> a replacement for a laptop which I just find farce. I mean 300 dollars >> for a keyboard and trackpad is a bit steep for me, but I do get that it >> could work for some. >> >> Where I settled up is on a iPad mini it gives me a secondary device >> without breaking the bank. I bought it before the SE came out but man >> for a secondary device you can snag those pretty cheap. One way I use my >> iPad with my Mac is if I want to record something I will use QuickTime >> and Audio Hijack and record the audio from the iPad to keep. I record a >> lot of sports so I love the fact on the Mac that I can record brow
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Hi Mohamed, Yeah. I'm a big fan of small and light, so I'm thinking very seriously about the 512 MacBook Air. But, if I upgrade my Mac, it will replace my MBP, which is my current work computer. So, would not meet the desire to have a non-work Apple device. (Hence the desire to upgrade both the Mac and the iPad.) lol Cheers, Donna > On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:39 AM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: > > My main laptop is 15” MBP 2016. I have previously worked on 13” MBP 2017 for > a small period of time. Despite the fact that the difference in weights is > small on papers, you feel a great difference in holding/carrying each. > > HTH, > > Regards, > > Mohamed E. Fayed > > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:26 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> I think you’re right. And I deliberately don’t put my work email on it, so I >> know I’ll never be interrupted by work stuff. Like Joe, I think I like >> having a secondary iOs device, and reserving it exclusively for personal >> ie.e. Nonwork use. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: >>> >>> Regarding liking to type emails, You may compare typing on iPhone, iPad >>> and Mac. I think you consider typing on iPad more immersive and enjoyable. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Mohamed E. Fayed >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:09 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: Well, at least you have a concrete, separate use for yours. I really don’t. The one thing I can name is that I tend to prefer doing things that involve more typing—such as writing emails like this—on my iPad (hence my interest in the Mantis.) My brain just doesn’t formulate complex written responses when I’m dictating. I’m fine with short things like brief emails or FB posts, but if I tried to dictate a message like this, I’d end up sounding like an idiot. 😀 Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:53 AM, joseph hodge wrote: > > Man I’ve made so many mistakes when it comes to iPads. I like having a > secondary IOS device. I bought the pro but really feel its got so many > drawbacks. I blame marketing for this, because they do make it out to be > a replacement for a laptop which I just find farce. I mean 300 dollars > for a keyboard and trackpad is a bit steep for me, but I do get that it > could work for some. > > Where I settled up is on a iPad mini it gives me a secondary device > without breaking the bank. I bought it before the SE came out but man for > a secondary device you can snag those pretty cheap. One way I use my iPad > with my Mac is if I want to record something I will use QuickTime and > Audio Hijack and record the audio from the iPad to keep. I record a lot > of sports so I love the fact on the Mac that I can record browsers > independently and the iPad and QuickTime gives me another source/ > > > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Brandon Olivares >> wrote: >> >> Interesting. Curious what you like about your iPad so much? I’ve often >> had the same thought, that there’s not much point to an iPad for the >> blind. I have a MacBook Pro, an iPhone, and an Apple Watch, but never >> felt the need for an iPad. >> >> But hey, if you enjoy it, and feel joy in the thought of upgrading it, >> then go for it. Who says it has to have a good reason or to be >> absolutely “rational”? >> >> Brandon >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect >>> world, I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would >>> stretch my funds a little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve >>> been trying to sort out which device I want to upgrade this year, and >>> which one next. That has gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I >>> do like it, there’s no question about that. But as a device, it really >>> doesn’t make much sense. I agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically >>> just a big iPhone. And, since I can’t see the screen, there’s really no >>> reason for me to have an iPad in the first place. But even knowing >>> that, I like my iPad, and am very intrigued with the idea of getting a >>> newer, faster one. But I can’t really come up with a good reason why. >>> Everything Joe said in his video is right. The Mac is a much better >>> proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all the screen I need. >>> And, it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the iPad that makes >>> me like it? Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and typing this >>> email on it, not on my Mac and not on my iPhone. >>> >>> This is more of a rhetorical
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I definitely understand this point! Due to Covid and working from home I think it's more important than ever to have separate devices from work and personal. As a blind person this can be a bit challenging because I use my personal phone to test things at work as well as my personal devices sometimes just because testing is very personal. That all being said I was definitely maxing myself out because I would open up Mail on my iPhone and see a bunch of work related emails and just answer them on my time off I understand if there's a toggle where I can turn mail off or even view by inbox but I just like doing everything at once where are my Mac and my iPad I tend to just use my personal emails so I'm not bombarded with my work stuff there and it's made a world of difference! I think this is a great conversation! And a good topic to think about! > On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:35 AM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: > > Based on the last message, I think iPad is better, because it feels, as a > hardware, different from your MacBook. That’s in addition to using it for fun > only. > > Another thing you may try is to try a light weight MacBook and see whether > you feel the difference between it and your work MBP in the same amount of > difference between the iPad and your work MBP. > > The greater the difference between the device of work and fun, the greater > your happiness with fun device. > > How about iPhone? It depends on you. If your work includes more than a call > to your colleagues, like sending messages, and you like to send messages to > your friends to make you happy, then iPhone won’t be a good replacement. You > may try it also for a couple of days before making your mind. > > Have a great new device. 😄 > > Regards, > > Mohamed E. Fayed > > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:26 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> I think you’re right. And I deliberately don’t put my work email on it, so I >> know I’ll never be interrupted by work stuff. Like Joe, I think I like >> having a secondary iOs device, and reserving it exclusively for personal >> ie.e. Nonwork use. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: >>> >>> Regarding liking to type emails, You may compare typing on iPhone, iPad >>> and Mac. I think you consider typing on iPad more immersive and enjoyable. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Mohamed E. Fayed >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:09 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: Well, at least you have a concrete, separate use for yours. I really don’t. The one thing I can name is that I tend to prefer doing things that involve more typing—such as writing emails like this—on my iPad (hence my interest in the Mantis.) My brain just doesn’t formulate complex written responses when I’m dictating. I’m fine with short things like brief emails or FB posts, but if I tried to dictate a message like this, I’d end up sounding like an idiot. 😀 Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:53 AM, joseph hodge wrote: > > Man I’ve made so many mistakes when it comes to iPads. I like having a > secondary IOS device. I bought the pro but really feel its got so many > drawbacks. I blame marketing for this, because they do make it out to be > a replacement for a laptop which I just find farce. I mean 300 dollars > for a keyboard and trackpad is a bit steep for me, but I do get that it > could work for some. > > Where I settled up is on a iPad mini it gives me a secondary device > without breaking the bank. I bought it before the SE came out but man for > a secondary device you can snag those pretty cheap. One way I use my iPad > with my Mac is if I want to record something I will use QuickTime and > Audio Hijack and record the audio from the iPad to keep. I record a lot > of sports so I love the fact on the Mac that I can record browsers > independently and the iPad and QuickTime gives me another source/ > > > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Brandon Olivares >> wrote: >> >> Interesting. Curious what you like about your iPad so much? I’ve often >> had the same thought, that there’s not much point to an iPad for the >> blind. I have a MacBook Pro, an iPhone, and an Apple Watch, but never >> felt the need for an iPad. >> >> But hey, if you enjoy it, and feel joy in the thought of upgrading it, >> then go for it. Who says it has to have a good reason or to be >> absolutely “rational”? >> >> Brandon >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect >>> world, I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would >>> stretch my
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My main laptop is 15” MBP 2016. I have previously worked on 13” MBP 2017 for a small period of time. Despite the fact that the difference in weights is small on papers, you feel a great difference in holding/carrying each. HTH, Regards, Mohamed E. Fayed > On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:26 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > I think you’re right. And I deliberately don’t put my work email on it, so I > know I’ll never be interrupted by work stuff. Like Joe, I think I like having > a secondary iOs device, and reserving it exclusively for personal ie.e. > Nonwork use. > Cheers, > Donna > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: >> >> Regarding liking to type emails, You may compare typing on iPhone, iPad and >> Mac. I think you consider typing on iPad more immersive and enjoyable. >> >> Regards, >> >> Mohamed E. Fayed >> >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:09 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Well, at least you have a concrete, separate use for yours. I really don’t. >>> The one thing I can name is that I tend to prefer doing things that involve >>> more typing—such as writing emails like this—on my iPad (hence my interest >>> in the Mantis.) My brain just doesn’t formulate complex written responses >>> when I’m dictating. I’m fine with short things like brief emails or FB >>> posts, but if I tried to dictate a message like this, I’d end up sounding >>> like an idiot. 😀 >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> Sent from my iPad >>> > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:53 AM, joseph hodge wrote: Man I’ve made so many mistakes when it comes to iPads. I like having a secondary IOS device. I bought the pro but really feel its got so many drawbacks. I blame marketing for this, because they do make it out to be a replacement for a laptop which I just find farce. I mean 300 dollars for a keyboard and trackpad is a bit steep for me, but I do get that it could work for some. Where I settled up is on a iPad mini it gives me a secondary device without breaking the bank. I bought it before the SE came out but man for a secondary device you can snag those pretty cheap. One way I use my iPad with my Mac is if I want to record something I will use QuickTime and Audio Hijack and record the audio from the iPad to keep. I record a lot of sports so I love the fact on the Mac that I can record browsers independently and the iPad and QuickTime gives me another source/ > On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Brandon Olivares > wrote: > > Interesting. Curious what you like about your iPad so much? I’ve often > had the same thought, that there’s not much point to an iPad for the > blind. I have a MacBook Pro, an iPhone, and an Apple Watch, but never > felt the need for an iPad. > > But hey, if you enjoy it, and feel joy in the thought of upgrading it, > then go for it. Who says it has to have a good reason or to be absolutely > “rational”? > > Brandon > >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect >> world, I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch >> my funds a little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying >> to sort out which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one >> next. That has gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like >> it, there’s no question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t >> make much sense. I agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big >> iPhone. And, since I can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for >> me to have an iPad in the first place. But even knowing that, I like my >> iPad, and am very intrigued with the idea of getting a newer, faster >> one. But I can’t really come up with a good reason why. Everything Joe >> said in his video is right. The Mac is a much better proeductivity >> device, and the iPhone is really all the screen I need. And, it’s faster >> than my iPad. So what is it about the iPad that makes me like it? Notice >> I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and typing this email on it, not on >> my Mac and not on my iPhone. >> >> This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something >> that has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, >> I’d love to hear people’s thoughts. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please c
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Based on the last message, I think iPad is better, because it feels, as a hardware, different from your MacBook. That’s in addition to using it for fun only. Another thing you may try is to try a light weight MacBook and see whether you feel the difference between it and your work MBP in the same amount of difference between the iPad and your work MBP. The greater the difference between the device of work and fun, the greater your happiness with fun device. How about iPhone? It depends on you. If your work includes more than a call to your colleagues, like sending messages, and you like to send messages to your friends to make you happy, then iPhone won’t be a good replacement. You may try it also for a couple of days before making your mind. Have a great new device. 😄 Regards, Mohamed E. Fayed > On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:26 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > I think you’re right. And I deliberately don’t put my work email on it, so I > know I’ll never be interrupted by work stuff. Like Joe, I think I like having > a secondary iOs device, and reserving it exclusively for personal ie.e. > Nonwork use. > Cheers, > Donna > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: >> >> Regarding liking to type emails, You may compare typing on iPhone, iPad and >> Mac. I think you consider typing on iPad more immersive and enjoyable. >> >> Regards, >> >> Mohamed E. Fayed >> >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:09 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Well, at least you have a concrete, separate use for yours. I really don’t. >>> The one thing I can name is that I tend to prefer doing things that involve >>> more typing—such as writing emails like this—on my iPad (hence my interest >>> in the Mantis.) My brain just doesn’t formulate complex written responses >>> when I’m dictating. I’m fine with short things like brief emails or FB >>> posts, but if I tried to dictate a message like this, I’d end up sounding >>> like an idiot. 😀 >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> Sent from my iPad >>> > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:53 AM, joseph hodge wrote: Man I’ve made so many mistakes when it comes to iPads. I like having a secondary IOS device. I bought the pro but really feel its got so many drawbacks. I blame marketing for this, because they do make it out to be a replacement for a laptop which I just find farce. I mean 300 dollars for a keyboard and trackpad is a bit steep for me, but I do get that it could work for some. Where I settled up is on a iPad mini it gives me a secondary device without breaking the bank. I bought it before the SE came out but man for a secondary device you can snag those pretty cheap. One way I use my iPad with my Mac is if I want to record something I will use QuickTime and Audio Hijack and record the audio from the iPad to keep. I record a lot of sports so I love the fact on the Mac that I can record browsers independently and the iPad and QuickTime gives me another source/ > On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Brandon Olivares > wrote: > > Interesting. Curious what you like about your iPad so much? I’ve often > had the same thought, that there’s not much point to an iPad for the > blind. I have a MacBook Pro, an iPhone, and an Apple Watch, but never > felt the need for an iPad. > > But hey, if you enjoy it, and feel joy in the thought of upgrading it, > then go for it. Who says it has to have a good reason or to be absolutely > “rational”? > > Brandon > >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect >> world, I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch >> my funds a little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying >> to sort out which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one >> next. That has gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like >> it, there’s no question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t >> make much sense. I agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big >> iPhone. And, since I can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for >> me to have an iPad in the first place. But even knowing that, I like my >> iPad, and am very intrigued with the idea of getting a newer, faster >> one. But I can’t really come up with a good reason why. Everything Joe >> said in his video is right. The Mac is a much better proeductivity >> device, and the iPhone is really all the screen I need. And, it’s faster >> than my iPad. So what is it about the iPad that makes me like it? Notice >> I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and typing this email on it, not on >> my Mac and not on my iP
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I think you’re right. And I deliberately don’t put my work email on it, so I know I’ll never be interrupted by work stuff. Like Joe, I think I like having a secondary iOs device, and reserving it exclusively for personal ie.e. Nonwork use. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad > On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: > > Regarding liking to type emails, You may compare typing on iPhone, iPad and > Mac. I think you consider typing on iPad more immersive and enjoyable. > > Regards, > > Mohamed E. Fayed > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:09 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Well, at least you have a concrete, separate use for yours. I really don’t. >> The one thing I can name is that I tend to prefer doing things that involve >> more typing—such as writing emails like this—on my iPad (hence my interest >> in the Mantis.) My brain just doesn’t formulate complex written responses >> when I’m dictating. I’m fine with short things like brief emails or FB >> posts, but if I tried to dictate a message like this, I’d end up sounding >> like an idiot. 😀 >> Cheers, >> Donna >> Sent from my iPad >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:53 AM, joseph hodge wrote: >>> >>> Man I’ve made so many mistakes when it comes to iPads. I like having a >>> secondary IOS device. I bought the pro but really feel its got so many >>> drawbacks. I blame marketing for this, because they do make it out to be a >>> replacement for a laptop which I just find farce. I mean 300 dollars for a >>> keyboard and trackpad is a bit steep for me, but I do get that it could >>> work for some. >>> >>> Where I settled up is on a iPad mini it gives me a secondary device without >>> breaking the bank. I bought it before the SE came out but man for a >>> secondary device you can snag those pretty cheap. One way I use my iPad >>> with my Mac is if I want to record something I will use QuickTime and Audio >>> Hijack and record the audio from the iPad to keep. I record a lot of sports >>> so I love the fact on the Mac that I can record browsers independently and >>> the iPad and QuickTime gives me another source/ >>> >>> >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Brandon Olivares wrote: Interesting. Curious what you like about your iPad so much? I’ve often had the same thought, that there’s not much point to an iPad for the blind. I have a MacBook Pro, an iPhone, and an Apple Watch, but never felt the need for an iPad. But hey, if you enjoy it, and feel joy in the thought of upgrading it, then go for it. Who says it has to have a good reason or to be absolutely “rational”? Brandon >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: > > Hi all, > > This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect > world, I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch > my funds a little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying > to sort out which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. > That has gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, > there’s no question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make > much sense. I agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big > iPhone. And, since I can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for > me to have an iPad in the first place. But even knowing that, I like my > iPad, and am very intrigued with the idea of getting a newer, faster one. > But I can’t really come up with a good reason why. Everything Joe said in > his video is right. The Mac is a much better proeductivity device, and > the iPhone is really all the screen I need. And, it’s faster than my > iPad. So what is it about the iPad that makes me like it? Notice I’m > sitting here drinking my coffee and typing this email on it, not on my > Mac and not on my iPhone. > > This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something > that has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, > I’d love to hear people’s thoughts. > Cheers, > Donna > > > Sent from my iPad > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message
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Good thoughts, all of them. But I’ve had iPhones for about ten years before ever getting an iPad. I think you may be on to something, though. I use a logitech Slim Combo keyboard with my iPad. It has a kick stand, so when I use my iPad, it sits in my lap, much like a computer. So, the keyboard is in my lap, and I can see, though not read, the screen, which is facing me, just as it would were I using my MBP. Maybe that’s enough to make the experience feel closer to that of using a computer, even though doing this same work on my phone would be faster. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad > On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:14 AM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: > > Maybe because you feel like holding a very light weight computer (because of > large screen). May be because of using it with two hands anywhere. I think > holding the device with two hands makes you feel more immersed and focused in > what you’re doing. Usually, no one would care to carry his phone with two > hands unless he is playing or typing in landscape mode. > > May be because it is the first Apple device you got, or first Electronic > device in general. > May be because of your memories to that specific iPad. > > Based on my experience, there is no critical benefit for iPad for a blind > user. > > If you can’t hold your laptop as easy as your iPad, you may try getting a > light weight MacBook. Anyway, laptops can not be held the same way as > laptops. Unfortunately, Apple doesn’t provide touch MacBook to give same > feeling and may be better, but heavier. > > That’s what I thought off. > > Regards, > > Mohamed E. Fayed > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 3:53 PM, joseph hodge wrote: >> >> Man I’ve made so many mistakes when it comes to iPads. I like having a >> secondary IOS device. I bought the pro but really feel its got so many >> drawbacks. I blame marketing for this, because they do make it out to be a >> replacement for a laptop which I just find farce. I mean 300 dollars for a >> keyboard and trackpad is a bit steep for me, but I do get that it could work >> for some. >> >> Where I settled up is on a iPad mini it gives me a secondary device without >> breaking the bank. I bought it before the SE came out but man for a >> secondary device you can snag those pretty cheap. One way I use my iPad with >> my Mac is if I want to record something I will use QuickTime and Audio >> Hijack and record the audio from the iPad to keep. I record a lot of sports >> so I love the fact on the Mac that I can record browsers independently and >> the iPad and QuickTime gives me another source/ >> >> >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Brandon Olivares wrote: >>> >>> Interesting. Curious what you like about your iPad so much? I’ve often had >>> the same thought, that there’s not much point to an iPad for the blind. I >>> have a MacBook Pro, an iPhone, and an Apple Watch, but never felt the need >>> for an iPad. >>> >>> But hey, if you enjoy it, and feel joy in the thought of upgrading it, then >>> go for it. Who says it has to have a good reason or to be absolutely >>> “rational”? >>> >>> Brandon >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi all, This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect world, I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch my funds a little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to sort out which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. That has gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, there’s no question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make much sense. I agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. And, since I can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for me to have an iPad in the first place. But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am very intrigued with the idea of getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t really come up with a good reason why. Everything Joe said in his video is right. The Mac is a much better proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all the screen I need. And, it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the iPad that makes me like it? Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and typing this email on it, not on my Mac and not on my iPhone. This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something that has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, I’d love to hear people’s thoughts. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather
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Regarding liking to type emails, You may compare typing on iPhone, iPad and Mac. I think you consider typing on iPad more immersive and enjoyable. Regards, Mohamed E. Fayed > On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:09 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Well, at least you have a concrete, separate use for yours. I really don’t. > The one thing I can name is that I tend to prefer doing things that involve > more typing—such as writing emails like this—on my iPad (hence my interest in > the Mantis.) My brain just doesn’t formulate complex written responses when > I’m dictating. I’m fine with short things like brief emails or FB posts, but > if I tried to dictate a message like this, I’d end up sounding like an idiot. > 😀 > Cheers, > Donna > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:53 AM, joseph hodge wrote: >> >> Man I’ve made so many mistakes when it comes to iPads. I like having a >> secondary IOS device. I bought the pro but really feel its got so many >> drawbacks. I blame marketing for this, because they do make it out to be a >> replacement for a laptop which I just find farce. I mean 300 dollars for a >> keyboard and trackpad is a bit steep for me, but I do get that it could work >> for some. >> >> Where I settled up is on a iPad mini it gives me a secondary device without >> breaking the bank. I bought it before the SE came out but man for a >> secondary device you can snag those pretty cheap. One way I use my iPad with >> my Mac is if I want to record something I will use QuickTime and Audio >> Hijack and record the audio from the iPad to keep. I record a lot of sports >> so I love the fact on the Mac that I can record browsers independently and >> the iPad and QuickTime gives me another source/ >> >> >> >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Brandon Olivares >>> wrote: >>> >>> Interesting. Curious what you like about your iPad so much? I’ve often had >>> the same thought, that there’s not much point to an iPad for the blind. I >>> have a MacBook Pro, an iPhone, and an Apple Watch, but never felt the need >>> for an iPad. >>> >>> But hey, if you enjoy it, and feel joy in the thought of upgrading it, then >>> go for it. Who says it has to have a good reason or to be absolutely >>> “rational”? >>> >>> Brandon >>> > On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: Hi all, This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect world, I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch my funds a little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to sort out which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. That has gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, there’s no question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make much sense. I agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. And, since I can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for me to have an iPad in the first place. But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am very intrigued with the idea of getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t really come up with a good reason why. Everything Joe said in his video is right. The Mac is a much better proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all the screen I need. And, it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the iPad that makes me like it? Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and typing this email on it, not on my Mac and not on my iPhone. This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something that has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, I’d love to hear people’s thoughts. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8BA3BFBC-AEFE-418B-843A-008E7B4FB427%40me.com. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
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Maybe because you feel like holding a very light weight computer (because of large screen). May be because of using it with two hands anywhere. I think holding the device with two hands makes you feel more immersed and focused in what you’re doing. Usually, no one would care to carry his phone with two hands unless he is playing or typing in landscape mode. May be because it is the first Apple device you got, or first Electronic device in general. May be because of your memories to that specific iPad. Based on my experience, there is no critical benefit for iPad for a blind user. If you can’t hold your laptop as easy as your iPad, you may try getting a light weight MacBook. Anyway, laptops can not be held the same way as laptops. Unfortunately, Apple doesn’t provide touch MacBook to give same feeling and may be better, but heavier. That’s what I thought off. Regards, Mohamed E. Fayed > On Dec 9, 2020, at 3:53 PM, joseph hodge wrote: > > Man I’ve made so many mistakes when it comes to iPads. I like having a > secondary IOS device. I bought the pro but really feel its got so many > drawbacks. I blame marketing for this, because they do make it out to be a > replacement for a laptop which I just find farce. I mean 300 dollars for a > keyboard and trackpad is a bit steep for me, but I do get that it could work > for some. > > Where I settled up is on a iPad mini it gives me a secondary device without > breaking the bank. I bought it before the SE came out but man for a secondary > device you can snag those pretty cheap. One way I use my iPad with my Mac is > if I want to record something I will use QuickTime and Audio Hijack and > record the audio from the iPad to keep. I record a lot of sports so I love > the fact on the Mac that I can record browsers independently and the iPad and > QuickTime gives me another source/ > > > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Brandon Olivares >> wrote: >> >> Interesting. Curious what you like about your iPad so much? I’ve often had >> the same thought, that there’s not much point to an iPad for the blind. I >> have a MacBook Pro, an iPhone, and an Apple Watch, but never felt the need >> for an iPad. >> >> But hey, if you enjoy it, and feel joy in the thought of upgrading it, then >> go for it. Who says it has to have a good reason or to be absolutely >> “rational”? >> >> Brandon >> >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect >>> world, I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch my >>> funds a little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to >>> sort out which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. That >>> has gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, there’s no >>> question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make much sense. I >>> agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. And, since I >>> can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for me to have an iPad in >>> the first place. But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am very >>> intrigued with the idea of getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t really >>> come up with a good reason why. Everything Joe said in his video is right. >>> The Mac is a much better proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all >>> the screen I need. And, it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the >>> iPad that makes me like it? Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and >>> typing this email on it, not on my Mac and not on my iPhone. >>> >>> This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something >>> that has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, I’d >>> love to hear people’s thoughts. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8BA3BFBC-AEFE-418B-843A-008E7B4FB427%40me.com. >> >> -- >> The following informat
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Well, at least you have a concrete, separate use for yours. I really don’t. The one thing I can name is that I tend to prefer doing things that involve more typing—such as writing emails like this—on my iPad (hence my interest in the Mantis.) My brain just doesn’t formulate complex written responses when I’m dictating. I’m fine with short things like brief emails or FB posts, but if I tried to dictate a message like this, I’d end up sounding like an idiot. 😀 Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:53 AM, joseph hodge wrote: > > Man I’ve made so many mistakes when it comes to iPads. I like having a > secondary IOS device. I bought the pro but really feel its got so many > drawbacks. I blame marketing for this, because they do make it out to be a > replacement for a laptop which I just find farce. I mean 300 dollars for a > keyboard and trackpad is a bit steep for me, but I do get that it could work > for some. > > Where I settled up is on a iPad mini it gives me a secondary device without > breaking the bank. I bought it before the SE came out but man for a secondary > device you can snag those pretty cheap. One way I use my iPad with my Mac is > if I want to record something I will use QuickTime and Audio Hijack and > record the audio from the iPad to keep. I record a lot of sports so I love > the fact on the Mac that I can record browsers independently and the iPad and > QuickTime gives me another source/ > > > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Brandon Olivares >> wrote: >> >> Interesting. Curious what you like about your iPad so much? I’ve often had >> the same thought, that there’s not much point to an iPad for the blind. I >> have a MacBook Pro, an iPhone, and an Apple Watch, but never felt the need >> for an iPad. >> >> But hey, if you enjoy it, and feel joy in the thought of upgrading it, then >> go for it. Who says it has to have a good reason or to be absolutely >> “rational”? >> >> Brandon >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect >>> world, I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch my >>> funds a little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to >>> sort out which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. That >>> has gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, there’s no >>> question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make much sense. I >>> agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. And, since I >>> can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for me to have an iPad in >>> the first place. But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am very >>> intrigued with the idea of getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t really >>> come up with a good reason why. Everything Joe said in his video is right. >>> The Mac is a much better proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all >>> the screen I need. And, it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the >>> iPad that makes me like it? Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and >>> typing this email on it, not on my Mac and not on my iPhone. >>> >>> This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something >>> that has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, I’d >>> love to hear people’s thoughts. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8BA3BFBC-AEFE-418B-843A-008E7B4FB427%40me.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owne
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Man I’ve made so many mistakes when it comes to iPads. I like having a secondary IOS device. I bought the pro but really feel its got so many drawbacks. I blame marketing for this, because they do make it out to be a replacement for a laptop which I just find farce. I mean 300 dollars for a keyboard and trackpad is a bit steep for me, but I do get that it could work for some. Where I settled up is on a iPad mini it gives me a secondary device without breaking the bank. I bought it before the SE came out but man for a secondary device you can snag those pretty cheap. One way I use my iPad with my Mac is if I want to record something I will use QuickTime and Audio Hijack and record the audio from the iPad to keep. I record a lot of sports so I love the fact on the Mac that I can record browsers independently and the iPad and QuickTime gives me another source/ > On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Brandon Olivares wrote: > > Interesting. Curious what you like about your iPad so much? I’ve often had > the same thought, that there’s not much point to an iPad for the blind. I > have a MacBook Pro, an iPhone, and an Apple Watch, but never felt the need > for an iPad. > > But hey, if you enjoy it, and feel joy in the thought of upgrading it, then > go for it. Who says it has to have a good reason or to be absolutely > “rational”? > > Brandon > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect world, >> I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch my funds a >> little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to sort out >> which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. That has >> gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, there’s no >> question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make much sense. I >> agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. And, since I >> can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for me to have an iPad in the >> first place. But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am very intrigued >> with the idea of getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t really come up >> with a good reason why. Everything Joe said in his video is right. The Mac >> is a much better proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all the >> screen I need. And, it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the iPad >> that makes me like it? Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and typing >> this email on it, not on my Mac and not on my iPhone. >> >> This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something >> that has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, I’d >> love to hear people’s thoughts. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8BA3BFBC-AEFE-418B-843A-008E7B4FB427%40me.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F5D30761-07BA-4C65-A823-35A858614791%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you hav
Re: The Psychology of technology
Why I like it is precisely the question I’m having trouble answering. One thing, I think, is the attached keyboard. It makes it feel more like I’m using a computer. Second, I think of my iPad as a fun device, so I think I associate it more with relaxation, and less with work. But in and of themselves, neither of those are very compelling reasons to upgrade. I could pair this same keyboard with my phone, and have a faster device, and also the experience of using a nonwork associated device. As much as anything I’m just very curious about this. But I suppose we all make purchase decisions that are based more on emotion than rationality. And yes, I probably will just cave and upgrade my iPad. Lol Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:35 AM, Brandon Olivares wrote: > > Interesting. Curious what you like about your iPad so much? I’ve often had > the same thought, that there’s not much point to an iPad for the blind. I > have a MacBook Pro, an iPhone, and an Apple Watch, but never felt the need > for an iPad. > > But hey, if you enjoy it, and feel joy in the thought of upgrading it, then > go for it. Who says it has to have a good reason or to be absolutely > “rational”? > > Brandon > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect world, >> I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch my funds a >> little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to sort out >> which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. That has >> gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, there’s no >> question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make much sense. I >> agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. And, since I >> can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for me to have an iPad in the >> first place. But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am very intrigued >> with the idea of getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t really come up >> with a good reason why. Everything Joe said in his video is right. The Mac >> is a much better proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all the >> screen I need. And, it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the iPad >> that makes me like it? Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and typing >> this email on it, not on my Mac and not on my iPhone. >> >> This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something >> that has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, I’d >> love to hear people’s thoughts. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8BA3BFBC-AEFE-418B-843A-008E7B4FB427%40me.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F5D30761-07BA-4C65-A823-35A858614791%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the ow
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Interesting. Curious what you like about your iPad so much? I’ve often had the same thought, that there’s not much point to an iPad for the blind. I have a MacBook Pro, an iPhone, and an Apple Watch, but never felt the need for an iPad. But hey, if you enjoy it, and feel joy in the thought of upgrading it, then go for it. Who says it has to have a good reason or to be absolutely “rational”? Brandon > On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi all, > > This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect world, > I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch my funds a > little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to sort out > which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. That has gotten > me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, there’s no question about > that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make much sense. I agree with Joe, > that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. And, since I can’t see the > screen, there’s really no reason for me to have an iPad in the first place. > But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am very intrigued with the idea of > getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t really come up with a good reason > why. Everything Joe said in his video is right. The Mac is a much better > proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all the screen I need. And, > it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the iPad that makes me like it? > Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and typing this email on it, not > on my Mac and not on my iPhone. > > This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something that > has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, I’d love > to hear people’s thoughts. > Cheers, > Donna > > > Sent from my iPad > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8BA3BFBC-AEFE-418B-843A-008E7B4FB427%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F5D30761-07BA-4C65-A823-35A858614791%40gmail.com.
The Psychology of technology
Hi all, This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect world, I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch my funds a little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to sort out which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. That has gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, there’s no question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make much sense. I agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. And, since I can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for me to have an iPad in the first place. But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am very intrigued with the idea of getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t really come up with a good reason why. Everything Joe said in his video is right. The Mac is a much better proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all the screen I need. And, it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the iPad that makes me like it? Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and typing this email on it, not on my Mac and not on my iPhone. This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something that has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, I’d love to hear people’s thoughts. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8BA3BFBC-AEFE-418B-843A-008E7B4FB427%40me.com.
