Re: The macaron: finally available

[David G. Carlson via iPhone]

Good. Cannot afford now. Will keep on my wishlist. 

Dave

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On Aug 4, 2019, at 7:20 AM, David G. Carlson via iPhone 
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Re: The macaron: finally available

[Yuma Decaux]

No, that’s why I said that it was a humiliating moment. Not for me though, I 
very well knew where the flaws were. This was made on prototyped print 
material, not high-grade ABS or HTP plastic. 

We had a good laugh though :) 

The material we now use is a different form of plastic, hard Rezin. It’s CNC 
machine and can with stand some pretty high pressure and is shock resistant.   

Sent from sputnik7 

> On 4/08/2019, at 3:20 PM, David G. Carlson via iPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Could not see, but it did not sound like a success?
> 
> Dave
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:31 PM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
> 
> Not sure if this went through, but I wanted to share a clip.
> 
> We have been testing the ruggedness of the macaron, and made a bet with Jake 
> my co-founder on a previous prototype made out of PLC, and see if the casing 
> was going to withstand a 500 kg bike rolling on it, as we were at the phase 
> of testing casing integrity by repeatdetly throwing it across a room, swiping 
> it off a bench, standing on it, and mistreating it in all sorts of scenarios.
> 
> Jake said he was fairly confident the Macaron was going to withstand a 250cc 
> bike, and I just rode along, knowing very well internally that it was going 
> to be a humiliating moment to capture on video.
> 
> Here is the result, guess what happened? Needless to say, we returned to our 
> materials evaluation board, and changed things internally.
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/dn7cjr2r8qrr1eo/slow_mo.mov?dl=0
> 
> 
> Have a great sunday 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2 Aug 2019, at 5:28 pm, David G. Carlson via iPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Not really that expensiv. The nearest competition is around US$ 150 and is 
>> not as full featured.
>>  And this sounds more rugged.   Most woodworkers have no problem getting a 
>> quality product for a price. 
>> Dave
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Sarah Massengale  wrote:
>> 
>> I love the device and what it does.  I’d definitely have one, but it’s 
>> really a bit too expensive for the average blind person drawing a social 
>> security check in the US and working to find a job.  my most sincere 
>> congratulations on your awards, and you have a great product.  You just may 
>> want to think about lowering the price a bit for it to be accessible to the 
>> average blind person.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:44 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not particularly, as long as you’re wearing boots.😎 Yuma, in all 
>>> seriousness may I suggest you Google the terms San Francisco and public 
>>> poop. Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 31, 2019, at 5:00 PM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
 
 Hi Phil,
 
 Thanks for your cheers. Is San francisco dangerous?
 
 
 
> On 1 Aug 2019, at 1:40 am, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Congratulations Yuma. And please take care when walking the streets of 
> SanFrancisco.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Jul 30, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> This is Yuma, and I have and update.
>> 
>> Some of you might remember that I was working on a digital tape measure. 
>> I had also used as my proposal for the 2017 Hollman prize. 
>> 
>> Since then, I have been working hard on new prototypes with my partner, 
>> wand the 2018 James Dyson award for its design and innovative features. 
>> 
>> I am pleased to announce two things. First, though I didn’t get the 2017 
>> Holman prize, I actually won this years prize. I will be going to San 
>> Francisco for the induction, and will go on a world tour to meet various 
>> scientists and engineers to make astronomy and all of its affiliate 
>> fields accessible to all of us. If anyone of you is in the San Francisco 
>> bay area, let’s get in touch. I would love to meet some of you in person.
>> 
>> Second bit of news, we have a limited early release pre-order of the 
>> Macaron which you can check out below. We are offering this limited 
>> release, so that we can change the software to your liking and follow 
>> your advice on how you would want a digital tape measure to work, Beyond 
>> the features we have already created so far. This is because we have an 
>> automatic firmware update feature, which will allow us to update the 
>> associated IOS app, and we really excited to hear your recommendations 
>> and put new features to the device. 
>> 
>> Have a look with the link below, and if you have any questions just 
>> email me.
>> 
>> https://www.oseyeris.com/product/the-macaron
>> 
>> As an earlier doctor, you will get the high-quality finish unit, and the 
>> ability to upgrade to a new device at 50% of its retail price when it 
>> comes out.
>> 
>> 
>> The macaron has gone through multiple iterations, and is going through 
>> trials in the medical field, t

Re: The macaron: finally available

[David G. Carlson via iPhone]

Could not see, but it did not sound like a success?

Dave

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:31 PM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:

Not sure if this went through, but I wanted to share a clip.

We have been testing the ruggedness of the macaron, and made a bet with Jake my 
co-founder on a previous prototype made out of PLC, and see if the casing was 
going to withstand a 500 kg bike rolling on it, as we were at the phase of 
testing casing integrity by repeatdetly throwing it across a room, swiping it 
off a bench, standing on it, and mistreating it in all sorts of scenarios.

Jake said he was fairly confident the Macaron was going to withstand a 250cc 
bike, and I just rode along, knowing very well internally that it was going to 
be a humiliating moment to capture on video.

Here is the result, guess what happened? Needless to say, we returned to our 
materials evaluation board, and changed things internally.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dn7cjr2r8qrr1eo/slow_mo.mov?dl=0


Have a great sunday 




> On 2 Aug 2019, at 5:28 pm, David G. Carlson via iPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Not really that expensiv. The nearest competition is around US$ 150 and is 
> not as full featured.
>  And this sounds more rugged.   Most woodworkers have no problem getting a 
> quality product for a price. 
> Dave
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 1, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Sarah Massengale  wrote:
> 
> I love the device and what it does.  I’d definitely have one, but it’s really 
> a bit too expensive for the average blind person drawing a social security 
> check in the US and working to find a job.  my most sincere congratulations 
> on your awards, and you have a great product.  You just may want to think 
> about lowering the price a bit for it to be accessible to the average blind 
> person.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:44 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> Not particularly, as long as you’re wearing boots.😎 Yuma, in all seriousness 
>> may I suggest you Google the terms San Francisco and public poop. Sent from 
>> my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2019, at 5:00 PM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Phil,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your cheers. Is San francisco dangerous?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 1 Aug 2019, at 1:40 am, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
 Congratulations Yuma. And please take care when walking the streets of 
 SanFrancisco.
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
> On Jul 30, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> 
> This is Yuma, and I have and update.
> 
> Some of you might remember that I was working on a digital tape measure. 
> I had also used as my proposal for the 2017 Hollman prize. 
> 
> Since then, I have been working hard on new prototypes with my partner, 
> wand the 2018 James Dyson award for its design and innovative features. 
> 
> I am pleased to announce two things. First, though I didn’t get the 2017 
> Holman prize, I actually won this years prize. I will be going to San 
> Francisco for the induction, and will go on a world tour to meet various 
> scientists and engineers to make astronomy and all of its affiliate 
> fields accessible to all of us. If anyone of you is in the San Francisco 
> bay area, let’s get in touch. I would love to meet some of you in person.
> 
> Second bit of news, we have a limited early release pre-order of the 
> Macaron which you can check out below. We are offering this limited 
> release, so that we can change the software to your liking and follow 
> your advice on how you would want a digital tape measure to work, Beyond 
> the features we have already created so far. This is because we have an 
> automatic firmware update feature, which will allow us to update the 
> associated IOS app, and we really excited to hear your recommendations 
> and put new features to the device. 
> 
> Have a look with the link below, and if you have any questions just email 
> me.
> 
> https://www.oseyeris.com/product/the-macaron
> 
> As an earlier doctor, you will get the high-quality finish unit, and the 
> ability to upgrade to a new device at 50% of its retail price when it 
> comes out.
> 
> 
> The macaron has gone through multiple iterations, and is going through 
> trials in the medical field, the clothing industry, as Wellers wood 
> workshops across Australia. 
> 
> 
> We are also getting a new software developer who will help us with the 
> android app, as well as create new exciting features alongside my own 
> participation in the project. 
> 
> Again, I’m really excited to announce these two bits of news, and hope to 
> hear from you. Have a great week all :)
> 
> Yuma
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
> Visionaries list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this lis

Re: The macaron: finally available

[Yuma Decaux]

Not sure if this went through, but I wanted to share a clip.

We have been testing the ruggedness of the macaron, and made a bet with Jake my 
co-founder on a previous prototype made out of PLC, and see if the casing was 
going to withstand a 500 kg bike rolling on it, as we were at the phase of 
testing casing integrity by repeatdetly throwing it across a room, swiping it 
off a bench, standing on it, and mistreating it in all sorts of scenarios.

Jake said he was fairly confident the Macaron was going to withstand a 250cc 
bike, and I just rode along, knowing very well internally that it was going to 
be a humiliating moment to capture on video.

Here is the result, guess what happened? Needless to say, we returned to our 
materials evaluation board, and changed things internally.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dn7cjr2r8qrr1eo/slow_mo.mov?dl=0


Have a great sunday 




> On 2 Aug 2019, at 5:28 pm, David G. Carlson via iPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Not really that expensiv. The nearest competition is around US$ 150 and is 
> not as full featured.
>  And this sounds more rugged.   Most woodworkers have no problem getting a 
> quality product for a price. 
> Dave
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 1, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Sarah Massengale  > wrote:
> 
> I love the device and what it does.  I’d definitely have one, but it’s really 
> a bit too expensive for the average blind person drawing a social security 
> check in the US and working to find a job.  my most sincere congratulations 
> on your awards, and you have a great product.  You just may want to think 
> about lowering the price a bit for it to be accessible to the average blind 
> person.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:44 AM, Phil Halton > > wrote:
>> 
>> Not particularly, as long as you’re wearing boots.😎 Yuma, in all seriousness 
>> may I suggest you Google the terms San Francisco and public poop. Sent from 
>> my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 31, 2019, at 5:00 PM, Yuma Decaux > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Phil,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your cheers. Is San francisco dangerous?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 1 Aug 2019, at 1:40 am, Phil Halton >>> > wrote:
 
 Congratulations Yuma. And please take care when walking the streets of 
 SanFrancisco.
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Jul 30, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Yuma Decaux >>> > wrote:
 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> 
> This is Yuma, and I have and update.
> 
> Some of you might remember that I was working on a digital tape measure. 
> I had also used as my proposal for the 2017 Hollman prize. 
> 
> Since then, I have been working hard on new prototypes with my partner, 
> wand the 2018 James Dyson award for its design and innovative features. 
> 
> I am pleased to announce two things. First, though I didn’t get the 2017 
> Holman prize, I actually won this years prize. I will be going to San 
> Francisco for the induction, and will go on a world tour to meet various 
> scientists and engineers to make astronomy and all of its affiliate 
> fields accessible to all of us. If anyone of you is in the San Francisco 
> bay area, let’s get in touch. I would love to meet some of you in person.
> 
> Second bit of news, we have a limited early release pre-order of the 
> Macaron which you can check out below. We are offering this limited 
> release, so that we can change the software to your liking and follow 
> your advice on how you would want a digital tape measure to work, Beyond 
> the features we have already created so far. This is because we have an 
> automatic firmware update feature, which will allow us to update the 
> associated IOS app, and we really excited to hear your recommendations 
> and put new features to the device. 
> 
> Have a look with the link below, and if you have any questions just email 
> me.
> 
> https://www.oseyeris.com/product/the-macaron 
> 
> 
> As an earlier doctor, you will get the high-quality finish unit, and the 
> ability to upgrade to a new device at 50% of its retail price when it 
> comes out.
> 
> 
> The macaron has gone through multiple iterations, and is going through 
> trials in the medical field, the clothing industry, as Wellers wood 
> workshops across Australia. 
> 
> 
> We are also getting a new software developer who will help us with the 
> android app, as well as create new exciting features alongside my own 
> participation in the project. 
> 
> Again, I’m really excited to announce these two bits of news, and hope to 
> hear from you. Have a great week all :)
> 
> Yuma
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
> Visionaries list.
> 

Re: The macaron: finally available

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi David, 

I have a little story about the ruggedness. 

On an earlier prototype, we started testing structure integrity by submitting 
the casing and inner frame to multiple stress tests like dropping it many 
times, throwing it against a wall, swiping it off a bench etc. 

At some point we thought it clever to run over it with a bike, and I bet it was 
going to crush like an egg shell while my co founder Jake said it would survive 
over 500 kilos rolling over it. 

The result? I attached a video. Hear for your entertainment, but end of story 
we went back to materials testing after this great engineering experiment :)

Link below

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3c9e0sqbtzqqtt5/2019-05-28%2014.48.51.mov?dl=0

Sent from sputnik7 

> On 2/08/2019, at 5:28 PM, David G. Carlson via iPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Not really that expensiv. The nearest competition is around US$ 150 and is 
> not as full featured.
>  And this sounds more rugged.   Most woodworkers have no problem getting a 
> quality product for a price. 
> Dave
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 1, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Sarah Massengale  wrote:
> 
> I love the device and what it does.  I’d definitely have one, but it’s really 
> a bit too expensive for the average blind person drawing a social security 
> check in the US and working to find a job.  my most sincere congratulations 
> on your awards, and you have a great product.  You just may want to think 
> about lowering the price a bit for it to be accessible to the average blind 
> person.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:44 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> Not particularly, as long as you’re wearing boots.😎 Yuma, in all seriousness 
>> may I suggest you Google the terms San Francisco and public poop. Sent from 
>> my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2019, at 5:00 PM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Phil,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your cheers. Is San francisco dangerous?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 1 Aug 2019, at 1:40 am, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
 Congratulations Yuma. And please take care when walking the streets of 
 SanFrancisco.
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
> On Jul 30, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> 
> This is Yuma, and I have and update.
> 
> Some of you might remember that I was working on a digital tape measure. 
> I had also used as my proposal for the 2017 Hollman prize. 
> 
> Since then, I have been working hard on new prototypes with my partner, 
> wand the 2018 James Dyson award for its design and innovative features. 
> 
> I am pleased to announce two things. First, though I didn’t get the 2017 
> Holman prize, I actually won this years prize. I will be going to San 
> Francisco for the induction, and will go on a world tour to meet various 
> scientists and engineers to make astronomy and all of its affiliate 
> fields accessible to all of us. If anyone of you is in the San Francisco 
> bay area, let’s get in touch. I would love to meet some of you in person.
> 
> Second bit of news, we have a limited early release pre-order of the 
> Macaron which you can check out below. We are offering this limited 
> release, so that we can change the software to your liking and follow 
> your advice on how you would want a digital tape measure to work, Beyond 
> the features we have already created so far. This is because we have an 
> automatic firmware update feature, which will allow us to update the 
> associated IOS app, and we really excited to hear your recommendations 
> and put new features to the device. 
> 
> Have a look with the link below, and if you have any questions just email 
> me.
> 
> https://www.oseyeris.com/product/the-macaron
> 
> As an earlier doctor, you will get the high-quality finish unit, and the 
> ability to upgrade to a new device at 50% of its retail price when it 
> comes out.
> 
> 
> The macaron has gone through multiple iterations, and is going through 
> trials in the medical field, the clothing industry, as Wellers wood 
> workshops across Australia. 
> 
> 
> We are also getting a new software developer who will help us with the 
> android app, as well as create new exciting features alongside my own 
> participation in the project. 
> 
> Again, I’m really excited to announce these two bits of news, and hope to 
> hear from you. Have a great week all :)
> 
> Yuma
> 
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> Visionaries list.
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Re: The macaron: finally available

[David G. Carlson via iPhone]

Not really that expensiv. The nearest competition is around US$ 150 and is not 
as full featured.
 And this sounds more rugged.   Most woodworkers have no problem getting a 
quality product for a price. 
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 1, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Sarah Massengale  wrote:

I love the device and what it does.  I’d definitely have one, but it’s really a 
bit too expensive for the average blind person drawing a social security check 
in the US and working to find a job.  my most sincere congratulations on your 
awards, and you have a great product.  You just may want to think about 
lowering the price a bit for it to be accessible to the average blind person.



> On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:44 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Not particularly, as long as you’re wearing boots.😎 Yuma, in all seriousness 
> may I suggest you Google the terms San Francisco and public poop. Sent from 
> my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2019, at 5:00 PM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Phil,
>> 
>> Thanks for your cheers. Is San francisco dangerous?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1 Aug 2019, at 1:40 am, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Congratulations Yuma. And please take care when walking the streets of 
>>> SanFrancisco.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 30, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 
 This is Yuma, and I have and update.
 
 Some of you might remember that I was working on a digital tape measure. I 
 had also used as my proposal for the 2017 Hollman prize. 
 
 Since then, I have been working hard on new prototypes with my partner, 
 wand the 2018 James Dyson award for its design and innovative features. 
 
 I am pleased to announce two things. First, though I didn’t get the 2017 
 Holman prize, I actually won this years prize. I will be going to San 
 Francisco for the induction, and will go on a world tour to meet various 
 scientists and engineers to make astronomy and all of its affiliate fields 
 accessible to all of us. If anyone of you is in the San Francisco bay 
 area, let’s get in touch. I would love to meet some of you in person.
 
 Second bit of news, we have a limited early release pre-order of the 
 Macaron which you can check out below. We are offering this limited 
 release, so that we can change the software to your liking and follow your 
 advice on how you would want a digital tape measure to work, Beyond the 
 features we have already created so far. This is because we have an 
 automatic firmware update feature, which will allow us to update the 
 associated IOS app, and we really excited to hear your recommendations and 
 put new features to the device. 
 
 Have a look with the link below, and if you have any questions just email 
 me.
 
 https://www.oseyeris.com/product/the-macaron
 
 As an earlier doctor, you will get the high-quality finish unit, and the 
 ability to upgrade to a new device at 50% of its retail price when it 
 comes out.
 
 
 The macaron has gone through multiple iterations, and is going through 
 trials in the medical field, the clothing industry, as Wellers wood 
 workshops across Australia. 
 
 
 We are also getting a new software developer who will help us with the 
 android app, as well as create new exciting features alongside my own 
 participation in the project. 
 
 Again, I’m really excited to announce these two bits of news, and hope to 
 hear from you. Have a great week all :)
 
 Yuma
 
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Re: The macaron: finally available

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Sarah,

Thanks so much for the kind words. I'll take into consideration your comments 
there, but as we are on a limited run, we can't afford to. ring the price down 
yet. We'd need thousand plus orders to optimise the price down, though we did 
make a market survey and found that we have better value/feature ratios than 
anything out there, particularly with our auto firmware update capabilities 
which will keep unlockng new features as we go. I'd love to talk about one 
which we are working on that current users will kind of be blown away with, but 
I'm bound by, you know, those internal KFC special sauce type secrecy things 
haha.

Let me try to negotiate this price down with my co-founder for our next run. 
Are you ok with me adding you to our mailing list?
  
 


> On 1 Aug 2019, at 10:52 pm, Sarah Massengale  wrote:
> 
> I love the device and what it does.  I’d definitely have one, but it’s really 
> a bit too expensive for the average blind person drawing a social security 
> check in the US and working to find a job.  my most sincere congratulations 
> on your awards, and you have a great product.  You just may want to think 
> about lowering the price a bit for it to be accessible to the average blind 
> person.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:44 AM, Phil Halton > > wrote:
>> 
>> Not particularly, as long as you’re wearing boots.😎 Yuma, in all seriousness 
>> may I suggest you Google the terms San Francisco and public poop. Sent from 
>> my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 31, 2019, at 5:00 PM, Yuma Decaux > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Phil,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your cheers. Is San francisco dangerous?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 1 Aug 2019, at 1:40 am, Phil Halton >>> > wrote:
 
 Congratulations Yuma. And please take care when walking the streets of 
 SanFrancisco.
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Jul 30, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Yuma Decaux >>> > wrote:
 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> 
> This is Yuma, and I have and update.
> 
> Some of you might remember that I was working on a digital tape measure. 
> I had also used as my proposal for the 2017 Hollman prize. 
> 
> Since then, I have been working hard on new prototypes with my partner, 
> wand the 2018 James Dyson award for its design and innovative features. 
> 
> I am pleased to announce two things. First, though I didn’t get the 2017 
> Holman prize, I actually won this years prize. I will be going to San 
> Francisco for the induction, and will go on a world tour to meet various 
> scientists and engineers to make astronomy and all of its affiliate 
> fields accessible to all of us. If anyone of you is in the San Francisco 
> bay area, let’s get in touch. I would love to meet some of you in person.
> 
> Second bit of news, we have a limited early release pre-order of the 
> Macaron which you can check out below. We are offering this limited 
> release, so that we can change the software to your liking and follow 
> your advice on how you would want a digital tape measure to work, Beyond 
> the features we have already created so far. This is because we have an 
> automatic firmware update feature, which will allow us to update the 
> associated IOS app, and we really excited to hear your recommendations 
> and put new features to the device. 
> 
> Have a look with the link below, and if you have any questions just email 
> me.
> 
> https://www.oseyeris.com/product/the-macaron 
> 
> 
> As an earlier doctor, you will get the high-quality finish unit, and the 
> ability to upgrade to a new device at 50% of its retail price when it 
> comes out.
> 
> 
> The macaron has gone through multiple iterations, and is going through 
> trials in the medical field, the clothing industry, as Wellers wood 
> workshops across Australia. 
> 
> 
> We are also getting a new software developer who will help us with the 
> android app, as well as create new exciting features alongside my own 
> participation in the project. 
> 
> Again, I’m really excited to announce these two bits of news, and hope to 
> hear from you. Have a great week all :)
> 
> Yuma
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Re: The macaron: finally available

[Yuma Decaux]

Oh I definetely have poop thrwarting boots. Didn't realise san fran was the 
street poop capital of the U.S. Is this a 60s throwback kind of trend? :)

Have a great one 




> On 1 Aug 2019, at 10:44 pm, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Not particularly, as long as you’re wearing boots.😎 Yuma, in all seriousness 
> may I suggest you Google the terms San Francisco and public poop. Sent from 
> my IPhone
> 
> 
> On Jul 31, 2019, at 5:00 PM, Yuma Decaux  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Phil,
>> 
>> Thanks for your cheers. Is San francisco dangerous?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1 Aug 2019, at 1:40 am, Phil Halton >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Congratulations Yuma. And please take care when walking the streets of 
>>> SanFrancisco.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Yuma Decaux >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hi everyone,
 
 
 This is Yuma, and I have and update.
 
 Some of you might remember that I was working on a digital tape measure. I 
 had also used as my proposal for the 2017 Hollman prize. 
 
 Since then, I have been working hard on new prototypes with my partner, 
 wand the 2018 James Dyson award for its design and innovative features. 
 
 I am pleased to announce two things. First, though I didn’t get the 2017 
 Holman prize, I actually won this years prize. I will be going to San 
 Francisco for the induction, and will go on a world tour to meet various 
 scientists and engineers to make astronomy and all of its affiliate fields 
 accessible to all of us. If anyone of you is in the San Francisco bay 
 area, let’s get in touch. I would love to meet some of you in person.
 
 Second bit of news, we have a limited early release pre-order of the 
 Macaron which you can check out below. We are offering this limited 
 release, so that we can change the software to your liking and follow your 
 advice on how you would want a digital tape measure to work, Beyond the 
 features we have already created so far. This is because we have an 
 automatic firmware update feature, which will allow us to update the 
 associated IOS app, and we really excited to hear your recommendations and 
 put new features to the device. 
 
 Have a look with the link below, and if you have any questions just email 
 me.
 
 https://www.oseyeris.com/product/the-macaron 
 
 
 As an earlier doctor, you will get the high-quality finish unit, and the 
 ability to upgrade to a new device at 50% of its retail price when it 
 comes out.
 
 
 The macaron has gone through multiple iterations, and is going through 
 trials in the medical field, the clothing industry, as Wellers wood 
 workshops across Australia. 
 
 
 We are also getting a new software developer who will help us with the 
 android app, as well as create new exciting features alongside my own 
 participation in the project. 
 
 Again, I’m really excited to announce these two bits of news, and hope to 
 hear from you. Have a great week all :)
 
 Yuma
 
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Re: The macaron: finally available

[Sarah Massengale]

I love the device and what it does.  I’d definitely have one, but it’s really a 
bit too expensive for the average blind person drawing a social security check 
in the US and working to find a job.  my most sincere congratulations on your 
awards, and you have a great product.  You just may want to think about 
lowering the price a bit for it to be accessible to the average blind person.



> On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:44 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Not particularly, as long as you’re wearing boots.😎 Yuma, in all seriousness 
> may I suggest you Google the terms San Francisco and public poop. Sent from 
> my IPhone
> 
> 
> On Jul 31, 2019, at 5:00 PM, Yuma Decaux  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Phil,
>> 
>> Thanks for your cheers. Is San francisco dangerous?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1 Aug 2019, at 1:40 am, Phil Halton >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Congratulations Yuma. And please take care when walking the streets of 
>>> SanFrancisco.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Yuma Decaux >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hi everyone,
 
 
 This is Yuma, and I have and update.
 
 Some of you might remember that I was working on a digital tape measure. I 
 had also used as my proposal for the 2017 Hollman prize. 
 
 Since then, I have been working hard on new prototypes with my partner, 
 wand the 2018 James Dyson award for its design and innovative features. 
 
 I am pleased to announce two things. First, though I didn’t get the 2017 
 Holman prize, I actually won this years prize. I will be going to San 
 Francisco for the induction, and will go on a world tour to meet various 
 scientists and engineers to make astronomy and all of its affiliate fields 
 accessible to all of us. If anyone of you is in the San Francisco bay 
 area, let’s get in touch. I would love to meet some of you in person.
 
 Second bit of news, we have a limited early release pre-order of the 
 Macaron which you can check out below. We are offering this limited 
 release, so that we can change the software to your liking and follow your 
 advice on how you would want a digital tape measure to work, Beyond the 
 features we have already created so far. This is because we have an 
 automatic firmware update feature, which will allow us to update the 
 associated IOS app, and we really excited to hear your recommendations and 
 put new features to the device. 
 
 Have a look with the link below, and if you have any questions just email 
 me.
 
 https://www.oseyeris.com/product/the-macaron 
 
 
 As an earlier doctor, you will get the high-quality finish unit, and the 
 ability to upgrade to a new device at 50% of its retail price when it 
 comes out.
 
 
 The macaron has gone through multiple iterations, and is going through 
 trials in the medical field, the clothing industry, as Wellers wood 
 workshops across Australia. 
 
 
 We are also getting a new software developer who will help us with the 
 android app, as well as create new exciting features alongside my own 
 participation in the project. 
 
 Again, I’m really excited to announce these two bits of news, and hope to 
 hear from you. Have a great week all :)
 
 Yuma
 
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Re: The macaron: finally available

[Phil Halton]

Not particularly, as long as you’re wearing boots.😎 Yuma, in all seriousness 
may I suggest you Google the terms San Francisco and public poop. Sent from my 
IPhone


> On Jul 31, 2019, at 5:00 PM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
> 
> Hi Phil,
> 
> Thanks for your cheers. Is San francisco dangerous?
> 
> 
> 
>> On 1 Aug 2019, at 1:40 am, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> Congratulations Yuma. And please take care when walking the streets of 
>> SanFrancisco.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is Yuma, and I have and update.
>>> 
>>> Some of you might remember that I was working on a digital tape measure. I 
>>> had also used as my proposal for the 2017 Hollman prize. 
>>> 
>>> Since then, I have been working hard on new prototypes with my partner, 
>>> wand the 2018 James Dyson award for its design and innovative features. 
>>> 
>>> I am pleased to announce two things. First, though I didn’t get the 2017 
>>> Holman prize, I actually won this years prize. I will be going to San 
>>> Francisco for the induction, and will go on a world tour to meet various 
>>> scientists and engineers to make astronomy and all of its affiliate fields 
>>> accessible to all of us. If anyone of you is in the San Francisco bay area, 
>>> let’s get in touch. I would love to meet some of you in person.
>>> 
>>> Second bit of news, we have a limited early release pre-order of the 
>>> Macaron which you can check out below. We are offering this limited 
>>> release, so that we can change the software to your liking and follow your 
>>> advice on how you would want a digital tape measure to work, Beyond the 
>>> features we have already created so far. This is because we have an 
>>> automatic firmware update feature, which will allow us to update the 
>>> associated IOS app, and we really excited to hear your recommendations and 
>>> put new features to the device. 
>>> 
>>> Have a look with the link below, and if you have any questions just email 
>>> me.
>>> 
>>> https://www.oseyeris.com/product/the-macaron
>>> 
>>> As an earlier doctor, you will get the high-quality finish unit, and the 
>>> ability to upgrade to a new device at 50% of its retail price when it comes 
>>> out.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The macaron has gone through multiple iterations, and is going through 
>>> trials in the medical field, the clothing industry, as Wellers wood 
>>> workshops across Australia. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We are also getting a new software developer who will help us with the 
>>> android app, as well as create new exciting features alongside my own 
>>> participation in the project. 
>>> 
>>> Again, I’m really excited to announce these two bits of news, and hope to 
>>> hear from you. Have a great week all :)
>>> 
>>> Yuma
>>> 
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Re: The macaron: finally available

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Phil,

Thanks for your cheers. Is San francisco dangerous?



> On 1 Aug 2019, at 1:40 am, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Congratulations Yuma. And please take care when walking the streets of 
> SanFrancisco.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
> On Jul 30, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Yuma Decaux  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> This is Yuma, and I have and update.
>> 
>> Some of you might remember that I was working on a digital tape measure. I 
>> had also used as my proposal for the 2017 Hollman prize. 
>> 
>> Since then, I have been working hard on new prototypes with my partner, wand 
>> the 2018 James Dyson award for its design and innovative features. 
>> 
>> I am pleased to announce two things. First, though I didn’t get the 2017 
>> Holman prize, I actually won this years prize. I will be going to San 
>> Francisco for the induction, and will go on a world tour to meet various 
>> scientists and engineers to make astronomy and all of its affiliate fields 
>> accessible to all of us. If anyone of you is in the San Francisco bay area, 
>> let’s get in touch. I would love to meet some of you in person.
>> 
>> Second bit of news, we have a limited early release pre-order of the Macaron 
>> which you can check out below. We are offering this limited release, so that 
>> we can change the software to your liking and follow your advice on how you 
>> would want a digital tape measure to work, Beyond the features we have 
>> already created so far. This is because we have an automatic firmware update 
>> feature, which will allow us to update the associated IOS app, and we really 
>> excited to hear your recommendations and put new features to the device. 
>> 
>> Have a look with the link below, and if you have any questions just email me.
>> 
>> https://www.oseyeris.com/product/the-macaron 
>> 
>> 
>> As an earlier doctor, you will get the high-quality finish unit, and the 
>> ability to upgrade to a new device at 50% of its retail price when it comes 
>> out.
>> 
>> 
>> The macaron has gone through multiple iterations, and is going through 
>> trials in the medical field, the clothing industry, as Wellers wood 
>> workshops across Australia. 
>> 
>> 
>> We are also getting a new software developer who will help us with the 
>> android app, as well as create new exciting features alongside my own 
>> participation in the project. 
>> 
>> Again, I’m really excited to announce these two bits of news, and hope to 
>> hear from you. Have a great week all :)
>> 
>> Yuma
>> 
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Re: The macaron: finally available

[Phil Halton]

Congratulations Yuma. And please take care when walking the streets of 
SanFrancisco.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jul 30, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> 
> This is Yuma, and I have and update.
> 
> Some of you might remember that I was working on a digital tape measure. I 
> had also used as my proposal for the 2017 Hollman prize. 
> 
> Since then, I have been working hard on new prototypes with my partner, wand 
> the 2018 James Dyson award for its design and innovative features. 
> 
> I am pleased to announce two things. First, though I didn’t get the 2017 
> Holman prize, I actually won this years prize. I will be going to San 
> Francisco for the induction, and will go on a world tour to meet various 
> scientists and engineers to make astronomy and all of its affiliate fields 
> accessible to all of us. If anyone of you is in the San Francisco bay area, 
> let’s get in touch. I would love to meet some of you in person.
> 
> Second bit of news, we have a limited early release pre-order of the Macaron 
> which you can check out below. We are offering this limited release, so that 
> we can change the software to your liking and follow your advice on how you 
> would want a digital tape measure to work, Beyond the features we have 
> already created so far. This is because we have an automatic firmware update 
> feature, which will allow us to update the associated IOS app, and we really 
> excited to hear your recommendations and put new features to the device. 
> 
> Have a look with the link below, and if you have any questions just email me.
> 
> https://www.oseyeris.com/product/the-macaron
> 
> As an earlier doctor, you will get the high-quality finish unit, and the 
> ability to upgrade to a new device at 50% of its retail price when it comes 
> out.
> 
> 
> The macaron has gone through multiple iterations, and is going through trials 
> in the medical field, the clothing industry, as Wellers wood workshops across 
> Australia. 
> 
> 
> We are also getting a new software developer who will help us with the 
> android app, as well as create new exciting features alongside my own 
> participation in the project. 
> 
> Again, I’m really excited to announce these two bits of news, and hope to 
> hear from you. Have a great week all :)
> 
> Yuma
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The macaron: finally available

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi everyone,


This is Yuma, and I have and update.

Some of you might remember that I was working on a digital tape measure. I had 
also used as my proposal for the 2017 Hollman prize. 

Since then, I have been working hard on new prototypes with my partner, wand 
the 2018 James Dyson award for its design and innovative features. 

I am pleased to announce two things. First, though I didn’t get the 2017 Holman 
prize, I actually won this years prize. I will be going to San Francisco for 
the induction, and will go on a world tour to meet various scientists and 
engineers to make astronomy and all of its affiliate fields accessible to all 
of us. If anyone of you is in the San Francisco bay area, let’s get in touch. I 
would love to meet some of you in person.

Second bit of news, we have a limited early release pre-order of the Macaron 
which you can check out below. We are offering this limited release, so that we 
can change the software to your liking and follow your advice on how you would 
want a digital tape measure to work, Beyond the features we have already 
created so far. This is because we have an automatic firmware update feature, 
which will allow us to update the associated IOS app, and we really excited to 
hear your recommendations and put new features to the device. 

Have a look with the link below, and if you have any questions just email me.

https://www.oseyeris.com/product/the-macaron

As an earlier doctor, you will get the high-quality finish unit, and the 
ability to upgrade to a new device at 50% of its retail price when it comes out.


The macaron has gone through multiple iterations, and is going through trials 
in the medical field, the clothing industry, as Wellers wood workshops across 
Australia. 


We are also getting a new software developer who will help us with the android 
app, as well as create new exciting features alongside my own participation in 
the project. 

Again, I’m really excited to announce these two bits of news, and hope to hear 
from you. Have a great week all :)

Yuma

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