RE: To Me, Braille is Beautiful in iOS 11.x
Hello Devin, My but you do make it sound so simple. Okay, I’ll give it another go using the, “R”, command you spoke of. Wish me luck. (smile) Mark From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 6:00 AM To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: To Me, Braille is Beautiful in iOS 11.x Oh goodness, that is pretty bad. I’d just have the phone on in pocket, and press Space with G twice, then space with lower H twice, then type R on the Braille display, and there I’d be, in the book. This is with BARD Mobile. Devin Prater Assistive Technology Instructor in Training JAWS, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint certified by World Services for the Blind On Dec 9, 2017, at 8:42 PM, alia robinson wrote: It has not gotten better!it is truly awful. you have to change input as well as output on your display, and if you touch the wrong things it changes volume or page or forgets where you left off. I can make it work but it’s hardly worth the trouble. in fact the book I’m reading now has the volumes mislabeled. volume 1 is actually volume 2, as if navigation weren’t awful enough. it’s just easier to read elsewhere. On Dec 9, 2017, at 9:36 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Devin, Do you use the BARD app for reading Braille? The last time I tried using the BARD app with my Braille display, I couldn't make heads or tails of it. The navigation was atrocious, to say the least. I got so confused and depressed, trying to figure it out, that I never tried it again, after that first attempt. This was back in iOS 9. Has it gotten better? -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: To Me, Braille is Beautiful in iOS 11.x
Hi! I guess there are more titles in Kindle too. It seems that they’ve taking a big step forwards with braille in Ios then. I have to try that as i have an Ipad mini 4. Android can not compete in regards to braille. /A > 9 dec. 2017 kl. 15:47 skrev alia robinson : > > kindle in braille is the best, much better than any other app like bard in > the us or ibooks. > > On Dec 9, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Anouk Radix wrote: > > Hi, I did not know that you COULD read kindle books with braille. I thought > that was not possible. Now I will have to retry it, glad if I was mistaken in > this… > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: To Me, Braille is Beautiful in iOS 11.x
Oh goodness, that is pretty bad. I’d just have the phone on in pocket, and press Space with G twice, then space with lower H twice, then type R on the Braille display, and there I’d be, in the book. This is with BARD Mobile. Devin Prater Assistive Technology Instructor in Training JAWS, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint certified by World Services for the Blind > On Dec 9, 2017, at 8:42 PM, alia robinson wrote: > > It has not gotten better!it is truly awful. you have to change input as well > as output on your display, and if you touch the wrong things it changes > volume or page or forgets where you left off. I can make it work but it’s > hardly worth the trouble. in fact the book I’m reading now has the volumes > mislabeled. volume 1 is actually volume 2, as if navigation weren’t awful > enough. it’s just easier to read elsewhere. > > On Dec 9, 2017, at 9:36 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Devin, > > Do you use the BARD app for reading Braille? > > The last time I tried using the BARD app with my Braille display, I couldn't > make heads or tails of it. > > The navigation was atrocious, to say the least. I got so confused and > depressed, trying to figure it out, that I never tried it again, after that > first attempt. > > This was back in iOS 9. > > Has it gotten better? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: To Me, Braille is Beautiful in iOS 11.x
It has not gotten better!it is truly awful. you have to change input as well as output on your display, and if you touch the wrong things it changes volume or page or forgets where you left off. I can make it work but it’s hardly worth the trouble. in fact the book I’m reading now has the volumes mislabeled. volume 1 is actually volume 2, as if navigation weren’t awful enough. it’s just easier to read elsewhere. On Dec 9, 2017, at 9:36 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Devin, Do you use the BARD app for reading Braille? The last time I tried using the BARD app with my Braille display, I couldn't make heads or tails of it. The navigation was atrocious, to say the least. I got so confused and depressed, trying to figure it out, that I never tried it again, after that first attempt. This was back in iOS 9. Has it gotten better? -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: To Me, Braille is Beautiful in iOS 11.x
Hello Devin, Do you use the BARD app for reading Braille? The last time I tried using the BARD app with my Braille display, I couldn't make heads or tails of it. The navigation was atrocious, to say the least. I got so confused and depressed, trying to figure it out, that I never tried it again, after that first attempt. This was back in iOS 9. Has it gotten better? Perhaps I'll give it another go in iOS 11. Mark From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2017 8:14 AM To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: To Me, Braille is Beautiful in iOS 11.x How is Kindle with Braille better than BARD Mobile? Just wondering, as BARD Mobile shows pure Braille, and I doubt Kindle can put in things like Braille italics and such. Devin Prater Assistive Technology Instructor in Training JAWS, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint certified by World Services for the Blind On Dec 9, 2017, at 8:51 AM, alia robinson wrote: no, braille has worked great on kindle for a few years now. On Dec 9, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hi, Is this since ios 11? When trying it with 10 i just got an empty braille display and could only use speech by swiping down with 2 figners from top but no luck with braille… -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: To Me, Braille is Beautiful in iOS 11.x
Hello Anouk, Yes, the Braille display customization features became available in iOS 11. Give it a try and let us know what you think. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anouk Radix Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2017 6:49 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: To Me, Braille is Beautiful in iOS 11.x Hi, Is this since ios 11? When trying it with 10 i just got an empty braille display and could only use speech by swiping down with 2 figners from top but no luck with braille… Greetings, Anouk, > Op 9 dec. 2017, om 15:47 heeft alia robinson het volgende > geschreven: > > kindle in braille is the best, much better than any other app like bard in > the us or ibooks. > > On Dec 9, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Anouk Radix wrote: > > Hi, I did not know that you COULD read kindle books with braille. I > thought that was not possible. Now I will have to retry it, glad if I > was mistaken in this… > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is > Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: To Me, Braille is Beautiful in iOS 11.x
Hello Alia, I have had excellent results reading Braille in both iBook and Kindle, as well as other apps. iBook is my preferred eBook reader of choice; however, I am spending more and more time on the Kindle app. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of alia robinson Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2017 6:48 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: To Me, Braille is Beautiful in iOS 11.x kindle in braille is the best, much better than any other app like bard in the us or ibooks. On Dec 9, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hi, I did not know that you COULD read kindle books with braille. I thought that was not possible. Now I will have to retry it, glad if I was mistaken in this… -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: To Me, Braille is Beautiful in iOS 11.x
because navigation on bard is ridiculous. I *hate* it. On Dec 9, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Devin Prater wrote: How is Kindle with Braille better than BARD Mobile? Just wondering, as BARD Mobile shows pure Braille, and I doubt Kindle can put in things like Braille italics and such. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: To Me, Braille is Beautiful in iOS 11.x
Sorry, off topic a bit but I was thinking of donating a Kindle reader to my place of worship with a Kindle book copy of the prayer book. Now that you mention that Kindle works with Braille on IOS I am wondering if Fire devices support Braille or if I should rethink my donation and contribute an older iBook. For that matter, could either of the Android based Braille Notetakers support Kindle book reading with Braille? Thinking about providing the most flexible solution. Thanks for any solutions provided. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Dec 9, 2017, at 9:51 AM, alia robinson wrote: > > no, braille has worked great on kindle for a few years now. > > On Dec 9, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Anouk Radix wrote: > > Hi, Is this since ios 11? When trying it with 10 i just got an empty braille > display and could only use speech by swiping down with 2 figners from top but > no luck with braille… > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: To Me, Braille is Beautiful in iOS 11.x
How is Kindle with Braille better than BARD Mobile? Just wondering, as BARD Mobile shows pure Braille, and I doubt Kindle can put in things like Braille italics and such. Devin Prater Assistive Technology Instructor in Training JAWS, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint certified by World Services for the Blind > On Dec 9, 2017, at 8:51 AM, alia robinson wrote: > > no, braille has worked great on kindle for a few years now. > > On Dec 9, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Anouk Radix wrote: > > Hi, Is this since ios 11? When trying it with 10 i just got an empty braille > display and could only use speech by swiping down with 2 figners from top but > no luck with braille… > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: To Me, Braille is Beautiful in iOS 11.x
no, braille has worked great on kindle for a few years now. On Dec 9, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hi, Is this since ios 11? When trying it with 10 i just got an empty braille display and could only use speech by swiping down with 2 figners from top but no luck with braille… -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: To Me, Braille is Beautiful in iOS 11.x
Hi, Is this since ios 11? When trying it with 10 i just got an empty braille display and could only use speech by swiping down with 2 figners from top but no luck with braille… Greetings, Anouk, > Op 9 dec. 2017, om 15:47 heeft alia robinson het volgende > geschreven: > > kindle in braille is the best, much better than any other app like bard in > the us or ibooks. > > On Dec 9, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Anouk Radix wrote: > > Hi, I did not know that you COULD read kindle books with braille. I thought > that was not possible. Now I will have to retry it, glad if I was mistaken in > this… > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: To Me, Braille is Beautiful in iOS 11.x
kindle in braille is the best, much better than any other app like bard in the us or ibooks. On Dec 9, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hi, I did not know that you COULD read kindle books with braille. I thought that was not possible. Now I will have to retry it, glad if I was mistaken in this… -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: To Me, Braille is Beautiful in iOS 11.x
Hi, I did not know that you COULD read kindle books with braille. I thought that was not possible. Now I will have to retry it, glad if I was mistaken in this… Greetings, Anouk, > Op 9 dec. 2017, om 12:46 heeft Angie Nutt het volgende > geschreven: > > I so agree with you; I love reading Kindle books in braille for instance. > When I first got a braille display about 2 years ago I was over the moon. I > still use speech though when my hands are doing other things; just love the > choice. > > All the best > Angie >> On 9 Dec 2017, at 05:47, M. Taylor wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I just finished an hour of reading Braille on my Focus 40 Blue display. >> >> I must say that this was the best non-Jaws Braille display reading >> experience I've enjoyed since 2011. If memory serves, 2011 was the last >> year in which I could pan right, using a left panning wheel on my display, >> in iOS. >> >> Now, with all of the wonderful Braille display customization options, I can, >> once again, use my beloved Wiz Wheels to my heart's content. (smile). >> >> I am so delighted to see that UEB (Unified English Braille) is also being >> properly translated in iOS 11. >> >> To me, no matter how convenient audio feedback may be, there is something >> ineffably beautiful about Braille. What a gift to behold. >> >> Bravo to Apple for finally giving Braille its well-earned respect. >> >> Mark >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: To Me, Braille is Beautiful in iOS 11.x
I so agree with you; I love reading Kindle books in braille for instance. When I first got a braille display about 2 years ago I was over the moon. I still use speech though when my hands are doing other things; just love the choice. All the best Angie > On 9 Dec 2017, at 05:47, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I just finished an hour of reading Braille on my Focus 40 Blue display. > > I must say that this was the best non-Jaws Braille display reading > experience I've enjoyed since 2011. If memory serves, 2011 was the last > year in which I could pan right, using a left panning wheel on my display, > in iOS. > > Now, with all of the wonderful Braille display customization options, I can, > once again, use my beloved Wiz Wheels to my heart's content. (smile). > > I am so delighted to see that UEB (Unified English Braille) is also being > properly translated in iOS 11. > > To me, no matter how convenient audio feedback may be, there is something > ineffably beautiful about Braille. What a gift to behold. > > Bravo to Apple for finally giving Braille its well-earned respect. > > Mark > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
To Me, Braille is Beautiful in iOS 11.x
Hello Everyone, I just finished an hour of reading Braille on my Focus 40 Blue display. I must say that this was the best non-Jaws Braille display reading experience I've enjoyed since 2011. If memory serves, 2011 was the last year in which I could pan right, using a left panning wheel on my display, in iOS. Now, with all of the wonderful Braille display customization options, I can, once again, use my beloved Wiz Wheels to my heart's content. (smile). I am so delighted to see that UEB (Unified English Braille) is also being properly translated in iOS 11. To me, no matter how convenient audio feedback may be, there is something ineffably beautiful about Braille. What a gift to behold. Bravo to Apple for finally giving Braille its well-earned respect. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
