Re: Two Mac Questions, please

[Julie Rattray]

Yes me to 

> On 19 May 2022, at 15:45, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> OK, yes, we are saying the same thing.  I always thought this was the case, 
> but thought it worth confirming.  I always wear headphones when I’m on Zoom 
> for this very reason.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 19, 2022, at 9:36 AM, Julie Rattray  wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry donna,
>> 
>> Realised my reply to you was not phrased well 
>> 
>> Yes I meant you can hear it but others don’t - and I thought that was what 
>> you wanted to know that others didn’t if you had headphones on 
>> 
>>> On 19 May 2022, at 12:44, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, actually, I was asking if others hear it.  I’ve always assumed that if 
>>> I wear headphones, I’m the only one who has to listen to VO babble.  If 
>>> that’s not the case, I want to know. :)
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 19, 2022, at 3:30 AM, Julie Rattray  
 wrote:
 
 I don’t think others hear it if you are wearing headphones but of course 
 you do - which I think is what you were asking 
 
> On 18 May 2022, at 14:46, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does this happen even if you’re wearing headphones?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 18, 2022, at 7:21 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I would be content to stay muted and simply prace the spacebar when I
>> need to speak in many Zoom calls I participate on. Unfortunately, that
>> also triggers a flurry of speech from VO, so I first have to silence VO
>> before using the spacebar.
>> 
>> This is my top peeve with VO and Zoom. I wish it were possible to use
>> the spacebar without triggering all that speech into the teleconference.
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> There are settings under Accessibility after pressing cmd-comma that 
>>> you can configure to allow/disallow various announcements, but if you 
>>> are navigating with VO while in the Zoom session, the others in the 
>>> Zoom meet will hear your VO speech.
>>> 
>>> I, like others, either use headphones so as not to bother others, mute 
>>> VO or VO speech, mute my mic when not needed, or just not use VO much 
>>> while in the meeting.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On May 16, 2022, at 03:33, Julie Rattray  
 wrote:
 
 There is an issue with zoom where others in the call can here vo 
 depending on the set up and it is hard to get rid of it - I tend to 
 mute vo during the meeting as much as possible or if I need to use vo 
 to check chat etc I just mute my mike and only I hear vo then 
 
> On 15 May 2022, at 03:14, Herbie Allen  > wrote:
> 
> In regard to Zoom, I believe you are referring to the announcement 
> voice? I think that one depends on your default soundcard. 
> 
>> On May 14, 2022, at 06:53, Kliph > > wrote:
>> 
>> the VO command to read to end of document is VO and the letter A, as 
>> for your zoom issue, we’d need to know a bit more about your setup. 
>> Are you using a headset, and external mic, where do you want the 
>> audio or VO to come out of?
>> 
>> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore 
>> all the options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other 
>> files sound good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join 
>> here
>> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io
>> Even Checkout my  
>> SoundEffects Folder 
>> 
>>  to receive updated resources
>> Let’s master editing audio together!
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Yolanda Thompson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> When hosting a zoom meeting on the mac, VO comes through the
>>> microphone. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?
>>> Second, If I want to read from cursor to end of document, what is 
>>> the
>>> keyboard command to do so?
>>> TIA Yolanda
>>> 
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Re: Two Mac Questions, please

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

OK, yes, we are saying the same thing.  I always thought this was the case, but 
thought it worth confirming.  I always wear headphones when I’m on Zoom for 
this very reason.
Cheers,
Donna


> On May 19, 2022, at 9:36 AM, Julie Rattray  wrote:
> 
> Sorry donna,
> 
> Realised my reply to you was not phrased well 
> 
> Yes I meant you can hear it but others don’t - and I thought that was what 
> you wanted to know that others didn’t if you had headphones on 
> 
>> On 19 May 2022, at 12:44, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> No, actually, I was asking if others hear it.  I’ve always assumed that if I 
>> wear headphones, I’m the only one who has to listen to VO babble.  If that’s 
>> not the case, I want to know. :)
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 19, 2022, at 3:30 AM, Julie Rattray  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don’t think others hear it if you are wearing headphones but of course 
>>> you do - which I think is what you were asking 
>>> 
 On 18 May 2022, at 14:46, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Does this happen even if you’re wearing headphones?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 
 
> On May 18, 2022, at 7:21 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would be content to stay muted and simply prace the spacebar when I
> need to speak in many Zoom calls I participate on. Unfortunately, that
> also triggers a flurry of speech from VO, so I first have to silence VO
> before using the spacebar.
> 
> This is my top peeve with VO and Zoom. I wish it were possible to use
> the spacebar without triggering all that speech into the teleconference.
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Janina
> 
> 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> There are settings under Accessibility after pressing cmd-comma that you 
>> can configure to allow/disallow various announcements, but if you are 
>> navigating with VO while in the Zoom session, the others in the Zoom 
>> meet will hear your VO speech.
>> 
>> I, like others, either use headphones so as not to bother others, mute 
>> VO or VO speech, mute my mic when not needed, or just not use VO much 
>> while in the meeting.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2022, at 03:33, Julie Rattray  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is an issue with zoom where others in the call can here vo 
>>> depending on the set up and it is hard to get rid of it - I tend to 
>>> mute vo during the meeting as much as possible or if I need to use vo 
>>> to check chat etc I just mute my mike and only I hear vo then 
>>> 
 On 15 May 2022, at 03:14, Herbie Allen >>> > wrote:
 
 In regard to Zoom, I believe you are referring to the announcement 
 voice? I think that one depends on your default soundcard. 
 
> On May 14, 2022, at 06:53, Kliph  > wrote:
> 
> the VO command to read to end of document is VO and the letter A, as 
> for your zoom issue, we’d need to know a bit more about your setup. 
> Are you using a headset, and external mic, where do you want the 
> audio or VO to come out of?
> 
> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore 
> all the options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other 
> files sound good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join 
> here
> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io
> Even Checkout my  
> SoundEffects Folder 
> 
>  to receive updated resources
> Let’s master editing audio together!
> 
>> On May 13, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Yolanda Thompson > > wrote:
>> 
>> When hosting a zoom meeting on the mac, VO comes through the
>> microphone. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?
>> Second, If I want to read from cursor to end of document, what is the
>> keyboard command to do so?
>> TIA Yolanda
>> 
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Re: Two Mac Questions, please

[Julie Rattray]

Sorry donna,

Realised my reply to you was not phrased well 

Yes I meant you can hear it but others don’t - and I thought that was what you 
wanted to know that others didn’t if you had headphones on 

> On 19 May 2022, at 12:44, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> No, actually, I was asking if others hear it.  I’ve always assumed that if I 
> wear headphones, I’m the only one who has to listen to VO babble.  If that’s 
> not the case, I want to know. :)
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 19, 2022, at 3:30 AM, Julie Rattray  wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t think others hear it if you are wearing headphones but of course you 
>> do - which I think is what you were asking 
>> 
>>> On 18 May 2022, at 14:46, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does this happen even if you’re wearing headphones?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 18, 2022, at 7:21 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 I would be content to stay muted and simply prace the spacebar when I
 need to speak in many Zoom calls I participate on. Unfortunately, that
 also triggers a flurry of speech from VO, so I first have to silence VO
 before using the spacebar.
 
 This is my top peeve with VO and Zoom. I wish it were possible to use
 the spacebar without triggering all that speech into the teleconference.
 
 
 Best,
 
 Janina
 
 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries writes:
> Hi,
> 
> There are settings under Accessibility after pressing cmd-comma that you 
> can configure to allow/disallow various announcements, but if you are 
> navigating with VO while in the Zoom session, the others in the Zoom meet 
> will hear your VO speech.
> 
> I, like others, either use headphones so as not to bother others, mute VO 
> or VO speech, mute my mic when not needed, or just not use VO much while 
> in the meeting.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 16, 2022, at 03:33, Julie Rattray  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> There is an issue with zoom where others in the call can here vo 
>> depending on the set up and it is hard to get rid of it - I tend to mute 
>> vo during the meeting as much as possible or if I need to use vo to 
>> check chat etc I just mute my mike and only I hear vo then 
>> 
>>> On 15 May 2022, at 03:14, Herbie Allen >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> In regard to Zoom, I believe you are referring to the announcement 
>>> voice? I think that one depends on your default soundcard. 
>>> 
 On May 14, 2022, at 06:53, Kliph >>> > wrote:
 
 the VO command to read to end of document is VO and the letter A, as 
 for your zoom issue, we’d need to know a bit more about your setup. 
 Are you using a headset, and external mic, where do you want the audio 
 or VO to come out of?
 
 Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore 
 all the options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other 
 files sound good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here
 audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io
 Even Checkout my  
 SoundEffects Folder 
 
  to receive updated resources
 Let’s master editing audio together!
 
> On May 13, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Yolanda Thompson  > wrote:
> 
> When hosting a zoom meeting on the mac, VO comes through the
> microphone. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?
> Second, If I want to read from cursor to end of document, what is the
> keyboard command to do so?
> TIA Yolanda
> 
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Re: Two Mac Questions, please

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

No, actually, I was asking if others hear it.  I’ve always assumed that if I 
wear headphones, I’m the only one who has to listen to VO babble.  If that’s 
not the case, I want to know. :)
Donna


> On May 19, 2022, at 3:30 AM, Julie Rattray  wrote:
> 
> I don’t think others hear it if you are wearing headphones but of course you 
> do - which I think is what you were asking 
> 
>> On 18 May 2022, at 14:46, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Does this happen even if you’re wearing headphones?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2022, at 7:21 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would be content to stay muted and simply prace the spacebar when I
>>> need to speak in many Zoom calls I participate on. Unfortunately, that
>>> also triggers a flurry of speech from VO, so I first have to silence VO
>>> before using the spacebar.
>>> 
>>> This is my top peeve with VO and Zoom. I wish it were possible to use
>>> the spacebar without triggering all that speech into the teleconference.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries writes:
 Hi,
 
 There are settings under Accessibility after pressing cmd-comma that you 
 can configure to allow/disallow various announcements, but if you are 
 navigating with VO while in the Zoom session, the others in the Zoom meet 
 will hear your VO speech.
 
 I, like others, either use headphones so as not to bother others, mute VO 
 or VO speech, mute my mic when not needed, or just not use VO much while 
 in the meeting.
 
 Later…
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Jamf Certified Tech
 Apple Professional Learning Specialist
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On May 16, 2022, at 03:33, Julie Rattray  wrote:
> 
> There is an issue with zoom where others in the call can here vo 
> depending on the set up and it is hard to get rid of it - I tend to mute 
> vo during the meeting as much as possible or if I need to use vo to check 
> chat etc I just mute my mike and only I hear vo then 
> 
>> On 15 May 2022, at 03:14, Herbie Allen > > wrote:
>> 
>> In regard to Zoom, I believe you are referring to the announcement 
>> voice? I think that one depends on your default soundcard. 
>> 
>>> On May 14, 2022, at 06:53, Kliph >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> the VO command to read to end of document is VO and the letter A, as 
>>> for your zoom issue, we’d need to know a bit more about your setup. Are 
>>> you using a headset, and external mic, where do you want the audio or 
>>> VO to come out of?
>>> 
>>> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all 
>>> the options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files 
>>> sound good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here
>>> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io
>>> Even Checkout my  
>>> SoundEffects Folder 
>>> 
>>>  to receive updated resources
>>> Let’s master editing audio together!
>>> 
 On May 13, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Yolanda Thompson >>> > wrote:
 
 When hosting a zoom meeting on the mac, VO comes through the
 microphone. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?
 Second, If I want to read from cursor to end of document, what is the
 keyboard command to do so?
 TIA Yolanda
 
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Re: Two Mac Questions, please

[Julie Rattray]

I don’t think others hear it if you are wearing headphones but of course you do 
- which I think is what you were asking 

> On 18 May 2022, at 14:46, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does this happen even if you’re wearing headphones?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 18, 2022, at 7:21 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I would be content to stay muted and simply prace the spacebar when I
>> need to speak in many Zoom calls I participate on. Unfortunately, that
>> also triggers a flurry of speech from VO, so I first have to silence VO
>> before using the spacebar.
>> 
>> This is my top peeve with VO and Zoom. I wish it were possible to use
>> the spacebar without triggering all that speech into the teleconference.
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> There are settings under Accessibility after pressing cmd-comma that you 
>>> can configure to allow/disallow various announcements, but if you are 
>>> navigating with VO while in the Zoom session, the others in the Zoom meet 
>>> will hear your VO speech.
>>> 
>>> I, like others, either use headphones so as not to bother others, mute VO 
>>> or VO speech, mute my mic when not needed, or just not use VO much while in 
>>> the meeting.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On May 16, 2022, at 03:33, Julie Rattray  wrote:
 
 There is an issue with zoom where others in the call can here vo depending 
 on the set up and it is hard to get rid of it - I tend to mute vo during 
 the meeting as much as possible or if I need to use vo to check chat etc I 
 just mute my mike and only I hear vo then 
 
> On 15 May 2022, at 03:14, Herbie Allen  > wrote:
> 
> In regard to Zoom, I believe you are referring to the announcement voice? 
> I think that one depends on your default soundcard. 
> 
>> On May 14, 2022, at 06:53, Kliph > > wrote:
>> 
>> the VO command to read to end of document is VO and the letter A, as for 
>> your zoom issue, we’d need to know a bit more about your setup. Are you 
>> using a headset, and external mic, where do you want the audio or VO to 
>> come out of?
>> 
>> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all 
>> the options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files 
>> sound good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here
>> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io
>> Even Checkout my  
>> SoundEffects Folder 
>> 
>>  to receive updated resources
>> Let’s master editing audio together!
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Yolanda Thompson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> When hosting a zoom meeting on the mac, VO comes through the
>>> microphone. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?
>>> Second, If I want to read from cursor to end of document, what is the
>>> keyboard command to do so?
>>> TIA Yolanda
>>> 
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Re: Two Mac Questions, please

[Brad Snyder]

Yes, of course.

- Brad -




On May 18, 2022, at 08:46, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Does this happen even if you’re wearing headphones?
Thanks,
Donna


> On May 18, 2022, at 7:21 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would be content to stay muted and simply prace the spacebar when I
> need to speak in many Zoom calls I participate on. Unfortunately, that
> also triggers a flurry of speech from VO, so I first have to silence VO
> before using the spacebar.
> 
> This is my top peeve with VO and Zoom. I wish it were possible to use
> the spacebar without triggering all that speech into the teleconference.
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Janina
> 
> 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> There are settings under Accessibility after pressing cmd-comma that you can 
>> configure to allow/disallow various announcements, but if you are navigating 
>> with VO while in the Zoom session, the others in the Zoom meet will hear 
>> your VO speech.
>> 
>> I, like others, either use headphones so as not to bother others, mute VO or 
>> VO speech, mute my mic when not needed, or just not use VO much while in the 
>> meeting.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2022, at 03:33, Julie Rattray  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is an issue with zoom where others in the call can here vo depending 
>>> on the set up and it is hard to get rid of it - I tend to mute vo during 
>>> the meeting as much as possible or if I need to use vo to check chat etc I 
>>> just mute my mike and only I hear vo then 
>>> 
 On 15 May 2022, at 03:14, Herbie Allen >>> > wrote:
 
 In regard to Zoom, I believe you are referring to the announcement voice? 
 I think that one depends on your default soundcard. 
 
> On May 14, 2022, at 06:53, Kliph  > wrote:
> 
> the VO command to read to end of document is VO and the letter A, as for 
> your zoom issue, we’d need to know a bit more about your setup. Are you 
> using a headset, and external mic, where do you want the audio or VO to 
> come out of?
> 
> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all 
> the options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files 
> sound good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here
> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io
> Even Checkout my  
> SoundEffects Folder 
> 
>  to receive updated resources
> Let’s master editing audio together!
> 
>> On May 13, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Yolanda Thompson > > wrote:
>> 
>> When hosting a zoom meeting on the mac, VO comes through the
>> microphone. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?
>> Second, If I want to read from cursor to end of document, what is the
>> keyboard command to do so?
>> TIA Yolanda
>> 
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Re: Two Mac Questions, please

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Does this happen even if you’re wearing headphones?
Thanks,
Donna


> On May 18, 2022, at 7:21 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would be content to stay muted and simply prace the spacebar when I
> need to speak in many Zoom calls I participate on. Unfortunately, that
> also triggers a flurry of speech from VO, so I first have to silence VO
> before using the spacebar.
> 
> This is my top peeve with VO and Zoom. I wish it were possible to use
> the spacebar without triggering all that speech into the teleconference.
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Janina
> 
> 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> There are settings under Accessibility after pressing cmd-comma that you can 
>> configure to allow/disallow various announcements, but if you are navigating 
>> with VO while in the Zoom session, the others in the Zoom meet will hear 
>> your VO speech.
>> 
>> I, like others, either use headphones so as not to bother others, mute VO or 
>> VO speech, mute my mic when not needed, or just not use VO much while in the 
>> meeting.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
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>>> On May 16, 2022, at 03:33, Julie Rattray  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is an issue with zoom where others in the call can here vo depending 
>>> on the set up and it is hard to get rid of it - I tend to mute vo during 
>>> the meeting as much as possible or if I need to use vo to check chat etc I 
>>> just mute my mike and only I hear vo then 
>>> 
 On 15 May 2022, at 03:14, Herbie Allen >>> > wrote:
 
 In regard to Zoom, I believe you are referring to the announcement voice? 
 I think that one depends on your default soundcard. 
 
> On May 14, 2022, at 06:53, Kliph  > wrote:
> 
> the VO command to read to end of document is VO and the letter A, as for 
> your zoom issue, we’d need to know a bit more about your setup. Are you 
> using a headset, and external mic, where do you want the audio or VO to 
> come out of?
> 
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> the options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files 
> sound good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here
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> 
>> On May 13, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Yolanda Thompson > > wrote:
>> 
>> When hosting a zoom meeting on the mac, VO comes through the
>> microphone. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?
>> Second, If I want to read from cursor to end of document, what is the
>> keyboard command to do so?
>> TIA Yolanda
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Re: Two Mac Questions, please

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

I would be content to stay muted and simply prace the spacebar when I
need to speak in many Zoom calls I participate on. Unfortunately, that
also triggers a flurry of speech from VO, so I first have to silence VO
before using the spacebar.

This is my top peeve with VO and Zoom. I wish it were possible to use
the spacebar without triggering all that speech into the teleconference.


Best,

Janina

'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries writes:
> Hi,
> 
> There are settings under Accessibility after pressing cmd-comma that you can 
> configure to allow/disallow various announcements, but if you are navigating 
> with VO while in the Zoom session, the others in the Zoom meet will hear your 
> VO speech.
> 
> I, like others, either use headphones so as not to bother others, mute VO or 
> VO speech, mute my mic when not needed, or just not use VO much while in the 
> meeting.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> 
> > On May 16, 2022, at 03:33, Julie Rattray  wrote:
> > 
> > There is an issue with zoom where others in the call can here vo depending 
> > on the set up and it is hard to get rid of it - I tend to mute vo during 
> > the meeting as much as possible or if I need to use vo to check chat etc I 
> > just mute my mike and only I hear vo then 
> > 
> >> On 15 May 2022, at 03:14, Herbie Allen  >> > wrote:
> >> 
> >> In regard to Zoom, I believe you are referring to the announcement voice? 
> >> I think that one depends on your default soundcard. 
> >> 
> >>> On May 14, 2022, at 06:53, Kliph  >>> > wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> the VO command to read to end of document is VO and the letter A, as for 
> >>> your zoom issue, we’d need to know a bit more about your setup. Are you 
> >>> using a headset, and external mic, where do you want the audio or VO to 
> >>> come out of?
> >>> 
> >>> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all 
> >>> the options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files 
> >>> sound good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here
> >>> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io
> >>>  Even Checkout my  
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> >>> 
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> >>> 
>  On May 13, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Yolanda Thompson   > wrote:
>  
>  When hosting a zoom meeting on the mac, VO comes through the
>  microphone. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?
>  Second, If I want to read from cursor to end of document, what is the
>  keyboard command to do so?
>  TIA Yolanda
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Re: Two Mac Questions, please

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

There are settings under Accessibility after pressing cmd-comma that you can 
configure to allow/disallow various announcements, but if you are navigating 
with VO while in the Zoom session, the others in the Zoom meet will hear your 
VO speech.

I, like others, either use headphones so as not to bother others, mute VO or VO 
speech, mute my mic when not needed, or just not use VO much while in the 
meeting.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 16, 2022, at 03:33, Julie Rattray  wrote:
> 
> There is an issue with zoom where others in the call can here vo depending on 
> the set up and it is hard to get rid of it - I tend to mute vo during the 
> meeting as much as possible or if I need to use vo to check chat etc I just 
> mute my mike and only I hear vo then 
> 
>> On 15 May 2022, at 03:14, Herbie Allen > > wrote:
>> 
>> In regard to Zoom, I believe you are referring to the announcement voice? I 
>> think that one depends on your default soundcard. 
>> 
>>> On May 14, 2022, at 06:53, Kliph >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> the VO command to read to end of document is VO and the letter A, as for 
>>> your zoom issue, we’d need to know a bit more about your setup. Are you 
>>> using a headset, and external mic, where do you want the audio or VO to 
>>> come out of?
>>> 
>>> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all the 
>>> options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files sound 
>>> good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here
>>> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io
>>>  Even Checkout my  
>>> SoundEffects Folder 
>>> 
>>>  to receive updated resources
>>> Let’s master editing audio together!
>>> 
 On May 13, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Yolanda Thompson >>> > wrote:
 
 When hosting a zoom meeting on the mac, VO comes through the
 microphone. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?
 Second, If I want to read from cursor to end of document, what is the
 keyboard command to do so?
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Re: Two Mac Questions, please

[Julie Rattray]

Thanks - in the past this didn’t work for me but things may have improved since 
I last asked people if they could hear vo 

> On 16 May 2022, at 17:58, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>  If you use headphones or earbuds on a Zoom call and leave your microphone 
> open on the Mac, no one can hear VoiceOver. This has been my solution for 
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> 
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>> On May 16, 2022, at 5:33 AM, Julie Rattray  wrote:
>> 
>> There is an issue with zoom where others in the call can here vo depending 
>> on the set up and it is hard to get rid of it - I tend to mute vo during the 
>> meeting as much as possible or if I need to use vo to check chat etc I just 
>> mute my mike and only I hear vo then 
>> 
>>> On 15 May 2022, at 03:14, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In regard to Zoom, I believe you are referring to the announcement voice? I 
>>> think that one depends on your default soundcard. 
>>> 
 On May 14, 2022, at 06:53, Kliph  wrote:
 
 the VO command to read to end of document is VO and the letter A, as for 
 your zoom issue, we’d need to know a bit more about your setup. Are you 
 using a headset, and external mic, where do you want the audio or VO to 
 come out of?
 
 Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all 
 the options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files 
 sound good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here
 audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io
 Even Checkout my  SoundEffects Folder to receive updated resources
 Let’s master editing audio together!
 
> On May 13, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
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> When hosting a zoom meeting on the mac, VO comes through the
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> Second, If I want to read from cursor to end of document, what is the
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> TIA Yolanda
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Re: Two Mac Questions, please

[John Panarese]

  If you use headphones or earbuds on a Zoom call and leave your microphone 
open on the Mac, no one can hear VoiceOver. This has been my solution for Zoom 
sessions in which I don’t want the participants hearing VoiceOver.


> On May 16, 2022, at 5:33 AM, Julie Rattray  wrote:
> 
> There is an issue with zoom where others in the call can here vo depending on 
> the set up and it is hard to get rid of it - I tend to mute vo during the 
> meeting as much as possible or if I need to use vo to check chat etc I just 
> mute my mike and only I hear vo then 
> 
>> On 15 May 2022, at 03:14, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>> 
>> In regard to Zoom, I believe you are referring to the announcement voice? I 
>> think that one depends on your default soundcard. 
>> 
>>> On May 14, 2022, at 06:53, Kliph  wrote:
>>> 
>>> the VO command to read to end of document is VO and the letter A, as for 
>>> your zoom issue, we’d need to know a bit more about your setup. Are you 
>>> using a headset, and external mic, where do you want the audio or VO to 
>>> come out of?
>>> 
>>> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all the 
>>> options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files sound 
>>> good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here
>>> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io
>>> Even Checkout my  SoundEffects Folder to receive updated resources
>>> Let’s master editing audio together!
>>> 
 On May 13, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
 
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Re: Two Mac Questions, please

[Julie Rattray]

There is an issue with zoom where others in the call can here vo depending on 
the set up and it is hard to get rid of it - I tend to mute vo during the 
meeting as much as possible or if I need to use vo to check chat etc I just 
mute my mike and only I hear vo then 

> On 15 May 2022, at 03:14, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> In regard to Zoom, I believe you are referring to the announcement voice? I 
> think that one depends on your default soundcard. 
> 
>> On May 14, 2022, at 06:53, Kliph > > wrote:
>> 
>> the VO command to read to end of document is VO and the letter A, as for 
>> your zoom issue, we’d need to know a bit more about your setup. Are you 
>> using a headset, and external mic, where do you want the audio or VO to come 
>> out of?
>> 
>> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all the 
>> options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files sound 
>> good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here
>> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io
>>  Even Checkout my  SoundEffects 
>> Folder 
>> 
>>  to receive updated resources
>> Let’s master editing audio together!
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Yolanda Thompson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> When hosting a zoom meeting on the mac, VO comes through the
>>> microphone. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?
>>> Second, If I want to read from cursor to end of document, what is the
>>> keyboard command to do so?
>>> TIA Yolanda
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Re: Two Mac Questions, please

[Herbie Allen]

In regard to Zoom, I believe you are referring to the announcement voice? I 
think that one depends on your default soundcard. 

> On May 14, 2022, at 06:53, Kliph  wrote:
> 
> the VO command to read to end of document is VO and the letter A, as for your 
> zoom issue, we’d need to know a bit more about your setup. Are you using a 
> headset, and external mic, where do you want the audio or VO to come out of?
> 
> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all the 
> options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files sound 
> good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here
> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io
>  Even Checkout my  SoundEffects 
> Folder 
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> Let’s master editing audio together!
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>> On May 13, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Yolanda Thompson > > wrote:
>> 
>> When hosting a zoom meeting on the mac, VO comes through the
>> microphone. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?
>> Second, If I want to read from cursor to end of document, what is the
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Re: Two Mac Questions, please

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> On May 13, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
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> When hosting a zoom meeting on the mac, VO comes through the
> microphone. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?
> Second, If I want to read from cursor to end of document, what is the
> keyboard command to do so?
> TIA Yolanda
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Two Mac Questions, please

[Yolanda Thompson]

When hosting a zoom meeting on the mac, VO comes through the
microphone. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?
Second, If I want to read from cursor to end of document, what is the
keyboard command to do so?
TIA Yolanda

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