Re: VoiceOver and HTML
Yes this is definitely a bug, and and for ARIA landmarks, you have to specify a role within the div tag. You can read more about this here: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_ARIA_landmarks_to_identify_regions_of_a_page Thanks On 2 Mar 2013, at 03:16, Nicholas Parsons wrote: > Hi Chris. I've had VoiceOver announce the file names and extentions even for > links without title attributes. Do you think this is a bug, or is it a > feature? That is, is this just the way VoiceOver reads HTML? Maybe I just > need to do some experimenting myself to determine how this is working. Also, > what are the HTML tags/attributes for setting landmarks? > > Phil, my appologies. I think I called you Bill in a previous email. Sorry. > Can I blame Karen for simply not pronouncing your name properly, or perhaps I > was just not listening carefully enough. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VoiceOver and HTML
Hi Chris. I've had VoiceOver announce the file names and extentions even for links without title attributes. Do you think this is a bug, or is it a feature? That is, is this just the way VoiceOver reads HTML? Maybe I just need to do some experimenting myself to determine how this is working. Also, what are the HTML tags/attributes for setting landmarks? Phil, my appologies. I think I called you Bill in a previous email. Sorry. Can I blame Karen for simply not pronouncing your name properly, or perhaps I was just not listening carefully enough. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VoiceOver and HTML
Nope On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:02, Phil Halton wrote: > JAWS? Was that a freudian slip? > > - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 5:32 AM > Subject: Re: VoiceOver and HTML > > > What I have noticed is, if the link (such as a graphic link) contains a title > attribute, the filename and extension is read out. This can sometimes > override the alt tag. I avoid using the title attribute anyway, as JAWS does > not read them by default. I would suggest writing to Apple accessibility and > pointing this bug out to them, and also raising it as a bug on their bug > report website. I have done this in the past, but the bug is still there. > > > On 28 Feb 2013, at 02:36, Nicholas Parsons > wrote: > >> Are their any good references/resources that describe how VoiceOver reads >> HTML? I've found that it works slightly differently to JAWS (surprise >> surprise). For instance, sometimes VoiceOver seems to read the file >> extentions on links, and it also seems to read the alt text on links like a >> help tag. >> >> I do a little amature web design like so many others and would like to know >> how best to create a website for VoiceOver accessibility. >> >> Thanks for any help. >> Nic >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VoiceOver and HTML
JAWS? Was that a freudian slip? - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 5:32 AM Subject: Re: VoiceOver and HTML What I have noticed is, if the link (such as a graphic link) contains a title attribute, the filename and extension is read out. This can sometimes override the alt tag. I avoid using the title attribute anyway, as JAWS does not read them by default. I would suggest writing to Apple accessibility and pointing this bug out to them, and also raising it as a bug on their bug report website. I have done this in the past, but the bug is still there. On 28 Feb 2013, at 02:36, Nicholas Parsons wrote: Are their any good references/resources that describe how VoiceOver reads HTML? I've found that it works slightly differently to JAWS (surprise surprise). For instance, sometimes VoiceOver seems to read the file extentions on links, and it also seems to read the alt text on links like a help tag. I do a little amature web design like so many others and would like to know how best to create a website for VoiceOver accessibility. Thanks for any help. Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VoiceOver and HTML
What I have noticed is, if the link (such as a graphic link) contains a title attribute, the filename and extension is read out. This can sometimes override the alt tag. I avoid using the title attribute anyway, as JAWS does not read them by default. I would suggest writing to Apple accessibility and pointing this bug out to them, and also raising it as a bug on their bug report website. I have done this in the past, but the bug is still there. On 28 Feb 2013, at 02:36, Nicholas Parsons wrote: > Are their any good references/resources that describe how VoiceOver reads > HTML? I've found that it works slightly differently to JAWS (surprise > surprise). For instance, sometimes VoiceOver seems to read the file > extentions on links, and it also seems to read the alt text on links like a > help tag. > > I do a little amature web design like so many others and would like to know > how best to create a website for VoiceOver accessibility. > > Thanks for any help. > Nic > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
VoiceOver and HTML
Are their any good references/resources that describe how VoiceOver reads HTML? I've found that it works slightly differently to JAWS (surprise surprise). For instance, sometimes VoiceOver seems to read the file extentions on links, and it also seems to read the alt text on links like a help tag. I do a little amature web design like so many others and would like to know how best to create a website for VoiceOver accessibility. Thanks for any help. Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
