Re: additional voices?
gt;>>>>> anything that might hint at quality before I try. >>>>>> I would not be using a strict 64 bit edition of Macos regardless for >>>>>> other reasons. Still, I imagine there are at least 20 or more options >>>>>> just in the regular non-siri voices. >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Karen >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Karen. Some voices on the Mac are used for novelty purposes. Bells >>>>>>> basically talks, or in this case, sings like a grandfather clock. There >>>>>>> are other novelty voices that I'm not going to get indepth about >>>>>>> because it'll take all night to do so. But I can tell you one voice I'm >>>>>>> glad they finally let us use on the Mac. We can now use Siri voices. >>>>>>> They added those voices in Catalina and they can be used in Big Sur as >>>>>>> well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Shawn, >>>>>>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility >>>>>>> Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private >>>>>>> email with your contact information and the group you wish to join and >>>>>>> I'll happily add you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> >>>>>>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2020, at 10:49 PM, Karen Lewellen >>>>>>> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net >>>>>>>> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What defines a voice as useless? >>>>>>>> I suppose a voice named bells, is just a ringer not a talker? >>>>>>>> Are the voices say for English first in the order, or must one go >>>>>>>> down the list finding non-English speaking voices mixed into the >>>>>>>> options? Clarity is an absolute requirement, and I mean strictly on >>>>>>>> the mac. >>>>>>>> Thanks so much, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, I believe they’re only 40 English voice says, and of those at >>>>>>>>> least 10 or totally useless. Generally they’re marked them as >>>>>>>>> different genders and sometimes is a compact and a non-compact >>>>>>>>> version. One example of a totally useless one, is the bells voice >>>>>>>>> that was around since macOS eight or possibly seven. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Karen Lewellen >>>>>>>>>> mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net> >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jonathan, >>>>>>>>>> Do you know if any details about each voice is provided..anywhere? >>>>>>>>>> Its characteristics, frequency ranges, etc.? >>>>>>>>>> Surely there must be some reason that makes each voice distinctive >>>>>>>>>> from each other besides the name. >>>>>>>>>> That such a number exists is honestly astonishing. >>>>>>>>>> Karen >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>
Re: additional voices?
tive from each other besides the name. That such a number exists is honestly astonishing. Karen On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan Cohn wrote: There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as downloads from Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the Speech category of VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item in the pop-up list this will be "customize". Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each voice has a checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be enabled for use in VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a play, cancel, and a OK button. The Play button lets you hear a sample of the selected voice. The OK button accepts any changes and requests System Utility to download the new voices the next time it checks for updates. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook mailto:westbch...@gmail.com>> wrote: I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there additional voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he doesn't speak clearly. haha. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com><https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B2B9-EC5E-4088-B288-58ECC404A39E%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B2B9-EC5E-4088-B288-58ECC404A39E%40gmail.com>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> --- You rec
Re: additional voices?
;mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> What defines a voice as useless? >>>>>> I suppose a voice named bells, is just a ringer not a talker? >>>>>> Are the voices say for English first in the order, or must one go down >>>>>> the list finding non-English speaking voices mixed into the options? >>>>>> Clarity is an absolute requirement, and I mean strictly on the mac. >>>>>> Thanks so much, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, I believe they’re only 40 English voice says, and of those at >>>>>>> least 10 or totally useless. Generally they’re marked them as different >>>>>>> genders and sometimes is a compact and a non-compact version. One >>>>>>> example of a totally useless one, is the bells voice that was around >>>>>>> since macOS eight or possibly seven. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Karen Lewellen >>>>>>> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jonathan, >>>>>>>> Do you know if any details about each voice is provided..anywhere? >>>>>>>> Its characteristics, frequency ranges, etc.? >>>>>>>> Surely there must be some reason that makes each voice distinctive >>>>>>>> from each other besides the name. >>>>>>>> That such a number exists is honestly astonishing. >>>>>>>> Karen >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as downloads >>>>>>>>> from Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the Speech category >>>>>>>>> of VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item in the pop-up list this >>>>>>>>> will be "customize". >>>>>>>>> Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each voice >>>>>>>>> has a checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be enabled for >>>>>>>>> use in VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a play, cancel, and a >>>>>>>>> OK button. The Play button lets you hear a sample of the selected >>>>>>>>> voice. The OK button accepts any changes and requests System Utility >>>>>>>>> to download the new voices the next time it checks for updates. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best wishes, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jonathan Cohn >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:westbch...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there >>>>>>>>>> additional voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like >>>>>>>>>> Fred's voice, but he doesn't speak clearly. haha. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>>>>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>>>>>>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the >>>>>>>>>> list itself. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach >>>>>>>>>> mark at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is >&
Re: additional voices?
t>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jonathan, >>>>>>> Do you know if any details about each voice is provided..anywhere? >>>>>>> Its characteristics, frequency ranges, etc.? >>>>>>> Surely there must be some reason that makes each voice distinctive from >>>>>>> each other besides the name. >>>>>>> That such a number exists is honestly astonishing. >>>>>>> Karen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as downloads >>>>>>>> from Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the Speech category >>>>>>>> of VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item in the pop-up list this >>>>>>>> will be "customize". >>>>>>>> Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each voice >>>>>>>> has a checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be enabled for >>>>>>>> use in VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a play, cancel, and a OK >>>>>>>> button. The Play button lets you hear a sample of the selected voice. >>>>>>>> The OK button accepts any changes and requests System Utility to >>>>>>>> download the new voices the next time it checks for updates. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best wishes, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jonathan Cohn >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook >>>>>>>>> <mailto:westbch...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there >>>>>>>>> additional voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like Fred's >>>>>>>>> voice, but he doesn't speak clearly. haha. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>>>>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>>>>>>>> itself. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach >>>>>>>>> mark at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is >>>>>>>>> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >>>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>>. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTi
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t; > provided..anywhere? > > > > > Its characteristics, frequency ranges, etc.? > > > > > Surely there must be some reason that makes each voice > > > > > distinctive from each other besides the name. > > > > > That such a number exists is honestly astonishing. > > > > > Karen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as > > > > > > downloads from Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the > > > > > > Speech category of VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item > > > > > > in the pop-up list this will be "customize". > > > > > > Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each > > > > > > voice has a checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be > > > > > > enabled for use in VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a > > > > > > play, cancel, and a OK button. The Play button lets you hear a > > > > > > sample of the selected voice. The OK button accepts any > > > > > > changes and requests System Utility to download the new voices > > > > > > the next time it checks for updates. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jonathan Cohn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook > > > > > > > > mailto:westbch...@gmail.com>> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are > > > > > > > there additional voices for purchase or free? Just > > > > > > > wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he doesn't speak > > > > > > > clearly. haha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > The following information is important for all members of > > > > > > > the Mac Visionaries list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of > > > > > > > this list, or if you feel that a member's post is > > > > > > > inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > > > > > > > directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can > > > > > > > reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and > > > > > > > your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > > > > > > > caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > > > > > > > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > > > > > > > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > > > > > > > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/>> > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > > > > > > Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > > > > > > > from it, send an email to > > > > > > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > > > > > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > > > > > > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > > > > > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>>. > > > > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com > > > > > > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C
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> > > > distinctive from each other besides the name. > > > > > That such a number exists is honestly astonishing. > > > > > Karen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as > > > > > > downloads from Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the > > > > > > Speech category of VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item > > > > > > in the pop-up list this will be "customize". > > > > > > Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each > > > > > > voice has a checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be > > > > > > enabled for use in VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a > > > > > > play, cancel, and a OK button. The Play button lets you hear a > > > > > > sample of the selected voice. The OK button accepts any > > > > > > changes and requests System Utility to download the new voices > > > > > > the next time it checks for updates. > > > > > > > > > > > > ??Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jonathan Cohn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook > > > > > > > > mailto:westbch...@gmail.com>> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are > > > > > > > there additional voices for purchase or free? Just > > > > > > > wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he doesn't speak > > > > > > > clearly. haha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > The following information is important for all members of > > > > > > > the Mac Visionaries list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of > > > > > > > this list, or if you feel that a member's post is > > > > > > > inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > > > > > > > directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can > > > > > > > reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and > > > > > > > your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > > > > > > > caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > > > > > > > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > > > > > > > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > > > > > > > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/>> > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > > > > > > Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > > > > > > > from it, send an email to > > > > > > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > > > > > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > > > > > > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > > > > > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>>. > > > > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com > > > > > > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com> > > > > > > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionari
Re: additional voices?
iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Karen Lewellen >>>>>>> mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jonathan, >>>>>>> Do you know if any details about each voice is provided..anywhere? >>>>>>> Its characteristics, frequency ranges, etc.? >>>>>>> Surely there must be some reason that makes each voice >>>>>>> distinctive from each other besides the name. >>>>>>> That such a number exists is honestly astonishing. >>>>>>> Karen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as >>>>>>>> downloads from Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the >>>>>>>> Speech category of VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item in >>>>>>>> the pop-up list this will be "customize". >>>>>>>> Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each >>>>>>>> voice has a checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be >>>>>>>> enabled for use in VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a >>>>>>>> play, cancel, and a OK button. The Play button lets you hear a >>>>>>>> sample of the selected voice. The OK button accepts any changes >>>>>>>> and requests System Utility to download the new voices the next >>>>>>>> time it checks for updates. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best wishes, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jonathan Cohn >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook >>>>>>>>>> mailto:westbch...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there >>>>>>>>> additional voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like >>>>>>>>> Fred's voice, but he doesn't speak clearly. haha. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the >>>>>>>>> Mac Visionaries list. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>>>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, >>>>>>>>> please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than >>>>>>>>> posting on the list itself. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can >>>>>>>>> reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your >>>>>>>>> owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>>>>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >>>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>> it, send an email to >>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.c
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Many of them are from Nuance. The "Fred" voice sounds somewhat similar to a DECTALK, but not as good in my opinion. On 12/29/20 9:29 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: I'm not sure about frequency, I believe tmost of these voices are the same as what JAWS offers. Karen, Samantha. One thing with the Apple voice setting area, one can adjust both pitch and intonation. My understanding of intonation is how flat the voice will b. HTH Jonathan Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn On Dec 29, 2020, at 14:43, Karen Lewellen <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote: Hi Shawn, Thanks for that information. My personal situation is that, due to experiencing a rather unique secondary disability, I have yet to find a safe voice to use. One that does not at best stimulate my brain's dizzy centres, or at worst create something a bit like a Cesar. My last try, in March, involved a siri voice on an Iphone, which made me rather sick indeed. for the moment Hardware, gosh I wish someone had saved the digital dectalk voices, as I use a hardware decktalk voice now, seems safer than software strict like Ios...believe me its complex even for my medical team. What I hoped for from the list was frequency related information anything that might hint at quality before I try. I would not be using a strict 64 bit edition of Macos regardless for other reasons. Still, I imagine there are at least 20 or more options just in the regular non-siri voices. Thanks, Karen On Tue, 29 Dec 2020, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi Karen. Some voices on the Mac are used for novelty purposes. Bells basically talks, or in this case, sings like a grandfather clock. There are other novelty voices that I'm not going to get indepth about because it'll take all night to do so. But I can tell you one voice I'm glad they finally let us use on the Mac. We can now use Siri voices. They added those voices in Catalina and they can be used in Big Sur as well. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add you. Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Dec 28, 2020, at 10:49 PM, Karen Lewellen mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote: What defines a voice as useless? I suppose a voice named bells, is just a ringer not a talker? Are the voices say for English first in the order, or must one go down the list finding non-English speaking voices mixed into the options? Clarity is an absolute requirement, and I mean strictly on the mac. Thanks so much, On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: Well, I believe they’re only 40 English voice says, and of those at least 10 or totally useless. Generally they’re marked them as different genders and sometimes is a compact and a non-compact version. One example of a totally useless one, is the bells voice that was around since macOS eight or possibly seven. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 28, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Karen Lewellen mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote: Jonathan, Do you know if any details about each voice is provided..anywhere? Its characteristics, frequency ranges, etc.? Surely there must be some reason that makes each voice distinctive from each other besides the name. That such a number exists is honestly astonishing. Karen On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan Cohn wrote: There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as downloads from Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the Speech category of VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item in the pop-up list this will be "customize". Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each voice has a checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be enabled for use in VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a play, cancel, and a OK button. The Play button lets you hear a sample of the selected voice. The OK button accepts any changes and requests System Utility to download the new voices the next time it checks for updates. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook mailto:westbch...@gmail.com>> wrote: I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there additional voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he doesn't speak clearly. haha. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Tayl
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I'm not sure about frequency, I believe tmost of these voices are the same as what JAWS offers. Karen, Samantha. One thing with the Apple voice setting area, one can adjust both pitch and intonation. My understanding of intonation is how flat the voice will b. HTH Jonathan Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Dec 29, 2020, at 14:43, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Hi Shawn, > Thanks for that information. > My personal situation is that, due to experiencing a rather unique secondary > disability, I have yet to find a safe voice to use. One that does not at > best stimulate my brain's dizzy centres, or at worst create something a bit > like a Cesar. > My last try, in March, involved a siri voice on an Iphone, which made me > rather sick indeed. > for the moment Hardware, gosh I wish someone had saved the digital dectalk > voices, as I use a hardware decktalk voice now, seems safer than software > strict like Ios...believe me its complex even for my medical team. > What I hoped for from the list was frequency related information anything > that might hint at quality before I try. > I would not be using a strict 64 bit edition of Macos regardless for other > reasons. Still, I imagine there are at least 20 or more options just in the > regular non-siri voices. > Thanks, > Karen > > > > > On Tue, 29 Dec 2020, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries wrote: > >> Hi Karen. Some voices on the Mac are used for novelty purposes. Bells >> basically talks, or in this case, sings like a grandfather clock. There are >> other novelty voices that I'm not going to get indepth about because it'll >> take all night to do so. But I can tell you one voice I'm glad they finally >> let us use on the Mac. We can now use Siri voices. They added those voices >> in Catalina and they can be used in Big Sur as well. >> >> Regards, >> Shawn, >> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air >> >> Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility >> Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email >> with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll >> happily add you. >> >> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >> >>> On Dec 28, 2020, at 10:49 PM, Karen Lewellen >>> wrote: >>> >>> What defines a voice as useless? >>> I suppose a voice named bells, is just a ringer not a talker? >>> Are the voices say for English first in the order, or must one go down the >>> list finding non-English speaking voices mixed into the options? Clarity >>> is an absolute requirement, and I mean strictly on the mac. >>> Thanks so much, >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: >>> >>>> Well, I believe they’re only 40 English voice says, and of those at least >>>> 10 or totally useless. Generally they’re marked them as different genders >>>> and sometimes is a compact and a non-compact version. One example of a >>>> totally useless one, is the bells voice that was around since macOS eight >>>> or possibly seven. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Dec 28, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Karen Lewellen >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Jonathan, >>>>> Do you know if any details about each voice is provided..anywhere? >>>>> Its characteristics, frequency ranges, etc.? >>>>> Surely there must be some reason that makes each voice distinctive from >>>>> each other besides the name. >>>>> That such a number exists is honestly astonishing. >>>>> Karen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as downloads from >>>>>> Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the Speech category of >>>>>> VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item in the pop-up list this will >>>>>> be "customize". >>>>>> Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each voice has >>>>>> a checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be enabled for use in >>>>>> VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a play, cancel, and a OK button. >>>>>> The Play bu
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Hi Shawn, Thanks for that information. My personal situation is that, due to experiencing a rather unique secondary disability, I have yet to find a safe voice to use. One that does not at best stimulate my brain's dizzy centres, or at worst create something a bit like a Cesar. My last try, in March, involved a siri voice on an Iphone, which made me rather sick indeed. for the moment Hardware, gosh I wish someone had saved the digital dectalk voices, as I use a hardware decktalk voice now, seems safer than software strict like Ios...believe me its complex even for my medical team. What I hoped for from the list was frequency related information anything that might hint at quality before I try. I would not be using a strict 64 bit edition of Macos regardless for other reasons. Still, I imagine there are at least 20 or more options just in the regular non-siri voices. Thanks, Karen On Tue, 29 Dec 2020, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi Karen. Some voices on the Mac are used for novelty purposes. Bells basically talks, or in this case, sings like a grandfather clock. There are other novelty voices that I'm not going to get indepth about because it'll take all night to do so. But I can tell you one voice I'm glad they finally let us use on the Mac. We can now use Siri voices. They added those voices in Catalina and they can be used in Big Sur as well. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add you. Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com On Dec 28, 2020, at 10:49 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: What defines a voice as useless? I suppose a voice named bells, is just a ringer not a talker? Are the voices say for English first in the order, or must one go down the list finding non-English speaking voices mixed into the options? Clarity is an absolute requirement, and I mean strictly on the mac. Thanks so much, On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: Well, I believe they???re only 40 English voice says, and of those at least 10 or totally useless. Generally they???re marked them as different genders and sometimes is a compact and a non-compact version. One example of a totally useless one, is the bells voice that was around since macOS eight or possibly seven. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 28, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: ??? Jonathan, Do you know if any details about each voice is provided..anywhere? Its characteristics, frequency ranges, etc.? Surely there must be some reason that makes each voice distinctive from each other besides the name. That such a number exists is honestly astonishing. Karen On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan Cohn wrote: There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as downloads from Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the Speech category of VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item in the pop-up list this will be "customize". Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each voice has a checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be enabled for use in VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a play, cancel, and a OK button. The Play button lets you hear a sample of the selected voice. The OK button accepts any changes and requests System Utility to download the new voices the next time it checks for updates. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook wrote: I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there additional voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he doesn't speak clearly. haha. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3
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I like Tom also. I have a hearing impairment and find his deep voice the most intelligible. On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 10:55 AM dan d. wrote: > > I find alex a bother, too cute by far with those distracting attempts to > sound human but missing the mark. > > I use tom which has none of the alex faults but perfectly intelligible and > does not draw attention to itself; like most of the other voices. > > On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Chris Westbrook wrote: > > > I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there additional > > voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he > > doesn't speak clearly. haha. > > > > > > -- > XB > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLjSGAT2tnSGJb_cbesAHOGpz4-uf7eKucx7Sf-VcJgQgA%40mail.gmail.com.
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I find alex a bother, too cute by far with those distracting attempts to sound human but missing the mark. I use tom which has none of the alex faults but perfectly intelligible and does not draw attention to itself; like most of the other voices. On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Chris Westbrook wrote: > I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there additional > voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he > doesn't speak clearly. haha. > > -- XB -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/alpine.OSX.2.23.453.2012291051200.5199%40dans-mac-mini-2.home.
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That is one of the novelty voices that add sound effects. That one makes each sylable sound like the overtones of a bell ringing. There about 4 of them. One I don't recall sings the text. Easily found on googlee using os10 novelty voices. On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Karen Lewellen wrote: > What defines a voice as useless? > I suppose a voice named bells, is just a ringer not a talker? > Are the voices say for English first in the order, or must one go down > the list finding non-English speaking voices mixed into the options? > Clarity is an absolute requirement, and I mean strictly on the mac. > Thanks so much, > > > > On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > > > Well, I believe they???re only 40 English voice says, and of those at least > > 10 or totally useless. Generally they???re marked them as different genders > > and sometimes is a compact and a non-compact version. One example of a > > totally useless one, is the bells voice that was around since macOS eight > > or possibly seven. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Dec 28, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Karen Lewellen > >> wrote: > >> > >> ??? Jonathan, > >> Do you know if any details about each voice is provided..anywhere? > >> Its characteristics, frequency ranges, etc.? > >> Surely there must be some reason that makes each voice distinctive from > >> each other besides the name. > >> That such a number exists is honestly astonishing. > >> Karen > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > >>> > >>> There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as downloads from > >>> Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the Speech category of > >>> VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item in the pop-up list this will > >>> be "customize". > >>> Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each voice has a > >>> checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be enabled for use in > >>> VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a play, cancel, and a OK button. > >>> The Play button lets you hear a sample of the selected voice. The OK > >>> button accepts any changes and requests System Utility to download the > >>> new voices the next time it checks for updates. > >>> > >>>Best wishes, > >>> > >>> Jonathan Cohn > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>> On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there additional > >>>> voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he > >>>> doesn't speak clearly. haha. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac > >>>> Visionaries list. > >>>> > >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >>>> > >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > >>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > >>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >>>> > >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: > >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > >>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > >>>> --- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit > >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com > >>>> > >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> The
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Hi Karen. Some voices on the Mac are used for novelty purposes. Bells basically talks, or in this case, sings like a grandfather clock. There are other novelty voices that I'm not going to get indepth about because it'll take all night to do so. But I can tell you one voice I'm glad they finally let us use on the Mac. We can now use Siri voices. They added those voices in Catalina and they can be used in Big Sur as well. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add you. Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com > On Dec 28, 2020, at 10:49 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > What defines a voice as useless? > I suppose a voice named bells, is just a ringer not a talker? > Are the voices say for English first in the order, or must one go down the > list finding non-English speaking voices mixed into the options? Clarity > is an absolute requirement, and I mean strictly on the mac. > Thanks so much, > > > > On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > >> Well, I believe they’re only 40 English voice says, and of those at least 10 >> or totally useless. Generally they’re marked them as different genders and >> sometimes is a compact and a non-compact version. One example of a totally >> useless one, is the bells voice that was around since macOS eight or >> possibly seven. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Dec 28, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Karen Lewellen >>> wrote: >>> >>> Jonathan, >>> Do you know if any details about each voice is provided..anywhere? >>> Its characteristics, frequency ranges, etc.? >>> Surely there must be some reason that makes each voice distinctive from >>> each other besides the name. >>> That such a number exists is honestly astonishing. >>> Karen >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >>>> >>>> There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as downloads from >>>> Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the Speech category of >>>> VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item in the pop-up list this will be >>>> "customize". >>>> Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each voice has a >>>> checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be enabled for use in >>>> VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a play, cancel, and a OK button. >>>> The Play button lets you hear a sample of the selected voice. The OK >>>> button accepts any changes and requests System Utility to download the new >>>> voices the next time it checks for updates. >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> >>>> Jonathan Cohn >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there additional >>>>> voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he >>>>> doesn't speak clearly. haha. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>> >>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.c
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What defines a voice as useless? I suppose a voice named bells, is just a ringer not a talker? Are the voices say for English first in the order, or must one go down the list finding non-English speaking voices mixed into the options? Clarity is an absolute requirement, and I mean strictly on the mac. Thanks so much, On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: Well, I believe they’re only 40 English voice says, and of those at least 10 or totally useless. Generally they’re marked them as different genders and sometimes is a compact and a non-compact version. One example of a totally useless one, is the bells voice that was around since macOS eight or possibly seven. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 28, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Jonathan, Do you know if any details about each voice is provided..anywhere? Its characteristics, frequency ranges, etc.? Surely there must be some reason that makes each voice distinctive from each other besides the name. That such a number exists is honestly astonishing. Karen On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan Cohn wrote: There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as downloads from Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the Speech category of VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item in the pop-up list this will be "customize". Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each voice has a checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be enabled for use in VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a play, cancel, and a OK button. The Play button lets you hear a sample of the selected voice. The OK button accepts any changes and requests System Utility to download the new voices the next time it checks for updates. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook wrote: I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there additional voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he doesn't speak clearly. haha. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B2B9-EC5E-4088-B288-58ECC404A39E%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from t
Re: additional voices?
Well, I believe they’re only 40 English voice says, and of those at least 10 or totally useless. Generally they’re marked them as different genders and sometimes is a compact and a non-compact version. One example of a totally useless one, is the bells voice that was around since macOS eight or possibly seven. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 28, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Jonathan, > Do you know if any details about each voice is provided..anywhere? > Its characteristics, frequency ranges, etc.? > Surely there must be some reason that makes each voice distinctive from each > other besides the name. > That such a number exists is honestly astonishing. > Karen > > > >> On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >> >> There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as downloads from >> Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the Speech category of VoiceOver >> utility, and go to the last item in the pop-up list this will be "customize". >> Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each voice has a >> checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be enabled for use in >> VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a play, cancel, and a OK button. The >> Play button lets you hear a sample of the selected voice. The OK button >> accepts any changes and requests System Utility to download the new voices >> the next time it checks for updates. >> >>Best wishes, >> >> Jonathan Cohn >> >> >> >>>> On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook wrote: >>> >>> I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there additional >>> voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he >>> doesn't speak clearly. haha. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B2B9-EC5E-4088-B288-58ECC404A39E%40gmail.com. >> -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderator
Re: additional voices?
Thanks Jonathan. I found them, I was just not vo-right arrowing over to the voices when I interacted with the table. Oops. Lesson learned. On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 5:03 PM Karen Lewellen wrote: > Jonathan, > Do you know if any details about each voice is provided..anywhere? > Its characteristics, frequency ranges, etc.? > Surely there must be some reason that makes each voice distinctive from > each other besides the name. > That such a number exists is honestly astonishing. > Karen > > > > On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > > There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as downloads from > Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the Speech category of > VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item in the pop-up list this will be > "customize". > > Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each voice has > a checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be enabled for use in > VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a play, cancel, and a OK button. The > Play button lets you hear a sample of the selected voice. The OK button > accepts any changes and requests System Utility to download the new voices > the next time it checks for updates. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jonathan Cohn > > > > > > > >> On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook > wrote: > >> > >> I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there > additional voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like Fred's > voice, but he doesn't speak clearly. haha. > >> > >> -- > >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > >> > >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >> > >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >> > >> The archives for this list can be searched at: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ < > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > >> --- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com > < > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer > >. > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B2B9-EC5E-4088-B288-58ECC404A39E%40gmail.com > . > > > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh-aQdJGHruPpiu90_wmPLNVDLgZp_A-RxUVmJY5BJApQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: additional voices?
Jonathan, Do you know if any details about each voice is provided..anywhere? Its characteristics, frequency ranges, etc.? Surely there must be some reason that makes each voice distinctive from each other besides the name. That such a number exists is honestly astonishing. Karen On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan Cohn wrote: There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as downloads from Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the Speech category of VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item in the pop-up list this will be "customize". Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each voice has a checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be enabled for use in VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a play, cancel, and a OK button. The Play button lets you hear a sample of the selected voice. The OK button accepts any changes and requests System Utility to download the new voices the next time it checks for updates. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook wrote: I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there additional voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he doesn't speak clearly. haha. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B2B9-EC5E-4088-B288-58ECC404A39E%40gmail.com.
Re: additional voices?
I doubt it though I guess it is possible that the M1 chip Macs don't have all the Voices. When you are in the voices area did you find: Customized language list table No selection. if you did then you need to interact with this table and then follow my instructions. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Dec 28, 2020, at 13:20, Chris Westbrook wrote: > > I meant to say is this something to do with the macbook air and the m1 chip? > Probably so. > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 1:16 PM Chris Westbrook <mailto:westbch...@gmail.com>> wrote: > I am really confused, because the help system says the same thing, but in > voiceover utility all I ihave is language and mute speech. No voice selector > and no customize. Not sure where I am going wrong. Is this something to do > with the new macbook air and the m > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:39 AM Jonathan Cohn <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote: > There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as downloads from > Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the Speech category of VoiceOver > utility, and go to the last item in the pop-up list this will be "customize". > Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each voice has a > checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be enabled for use in > VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a play, cancel, and a OK button. The > Play button lets you hear a sample of the selected voice. The OK button > accepts any changes and requests System Utility to download the new voices > the next time it checks for updates. > > Best wishes, > > Jonathan Cohn > > > >> On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook > <mailto:westbch...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there additional >> voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he >> doesn't speak clearly. haha. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can > reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B2B9-EC5E-4088-B288-58ECC404A39E%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.go
Re: additional voices?
They're available on iOS, so one would expect them to be available on M1 Mac systems too. I am yet to make the hardware upgrade to the new platform, so I can't check. On 12/28/20 1:20 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: I meant to say is this something to do with the macbook air and the m1 chip? Probably so. On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 1:16 PM Chris Westbrook <mailto:westbch...@gmail.com>> wrote: I am really confused, because the help system says the same thing, but in voiceover utility all I ihave is language and mute speech. No voice selector and no customize. Not sure where I am going wrong. Is this something to do with the new macbook air and the m On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:39 AM Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote: There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as downloads from Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the Speech category of VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item in the pop-up list this will be "customize". Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each voice has a checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be enabled for use in VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a play, cancel, and a OK button. The Play button lets you hear a sample of the selected voice. The OK button accepts any changes and requests System Utility to download the new voices the next time it checks for updates. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook mailto:westbch...@gmail.com>> wrote: I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there additional voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he doesn't speak clearly. haha. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B2B9-EC5E-4088-B288-58ECC404A39E%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B2B9-EC5E-4088-B288-58ECC404A39E%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have
Re: additional voices?
I meant to say is this something to do with the macbook air and the m1 chip? Probably so. On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 1:16 PM Chris Westbrook wrote: > I am really confused, because the help system says the same thing, but in > voiceover utility all I ihave is language and mute speech. No voice > selector and no customize. Not sure where I am going wrong. Is this > something to do with the new macbook air and the m > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:39 AM Jonathan Cohn > wrote: > >> There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as downloads from >> Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the Speech category of >> VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item in the pop-up list this will be >> "customize". >> Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each voice has a >> checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be enabled for use in >> VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a play, cancel, and a OK button. The >> Play button lets you hear a sample of the selected voice. The OK button >> accepts any changes and requests System Utility to download the new voices >> the next time it checks for updates. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Jonathan Cohn >> >> >> >> On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook wrote: >> >> I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there additional >> voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he >> doesn't speak clearly. haha. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B2B9-EC5E-4088-B288-58ECC404A39E%40gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B2B9-EC5E-4088-B288-58ECC404A39E%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLgowj3EujRQM%3D63cORQWAyqTyABcWacbZLAnHFSQ92nHw%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: additional voices?
I am really confused, because the help system says the same thing, but in voiceover utility all I ihave is language and mute speech. No voice selector and no customize. Not sure where I am going wrong. Is this something to do with the new macbook air and the m On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:39 AM Jonathan Cohn wrote: > There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as downloads from > Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the Speech category of > VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item in the pop-up list this will be > "customize". > Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each voice has a > checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be enabled for use in > VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a play, cancel, and a OK button. The > Play button lets you hear a sample of the selected voice. The OK button > accepts any changes and requests System Utility to download the new voices > the next time it checks for updates. > > Best wishes, > > Jonathan Cohn > > > > On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook wrote: > > I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there additional > voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he > doesn't speak clearly. haha. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B2B9-EC5E-4088-B288-58ECC404A39E%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B2B9-EC5E-4088-B288-58ECC404A39E%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLjV-kdZC8KbzsYtvkcxun-V0o64k8N2U0ADSo8q9m-njw%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: additional voices?
There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as downloads from Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the Speech category of VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item in the pop-up list this will be "customize". Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each voice has a checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be enabled for use in VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a play, cancel, and a OK button. The Play button lets you hear a sample of the selected voice. The OK button accepts any changes and requests System Utility to download the new voices the next time it checks for updates. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook wrote: > > I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there additional > voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he > doesn't speak clearly. haha. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B2B9-EC5E-4088-B288-58ECC404A39E%40gmail.com.
additional voices?
I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there additional voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he doesn't speak clearly. haha. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA%2B6QrLh9ZvS-V06_9_-GYQTrneGG7pRS0iaW3J6JTiiPBt16%3DA%40mail.gmail.com.
lion additional voices
hi all, i tried out one of the new voices in lion. i do not think i like it. is there a way to uninstall it so i can try a different one? thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: lion additional voices
Hello Denise, There's no need to uninstall any voices before installing a new one. I have a great many voices in several languages on my MacBook Air. I have the new voices that come with Lion, and eleven or so Acapela voices. Cheers, Anne On 29 Oct 2011, at 18:52, Denise Avant wrote: hi all, i tried out one of the new voices in lion. i do not think i like it. is there a way to uninstall it so i can try a different one? thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: lion additional voices
ok. thanks. i had heard the voices take up so much space that one needed to be careful on how many to download. On Oct 29, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Denise, There's no need to uninstall any voices before installing a new one. I have a great many voices in several languages on my MacBook Air. I have the new voices that come with Lion, and eleven or so Acapela voices. Cheers, Anne On 29 Oct 2011, at 18:52, Denise Avant wrote: hi all, i tried out one of the new voices in lion. i do not think i like it. is there a way to uninstall it so i can try a different one? thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: lion additional voices
Hi Denise! If you do need to remove some voice's in the future [or now] Someone suggested you can find them by going to, /System/Library/Speech/Voices. I'm still on snowy kitty but I think some people have mentioned that the library in Lion has been hidden! So hopefully someone can tell you how to get to it! :] Colin On 29 Oct 2011, at 19:00, Denise Avant wrote: ok. thanks. i had heard the voices take up so much space that one needed to be careful on how many to download. On Oct 29, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Denise, There's no need to uninstall any voices before installing a new one. I have a great many voices in several languages on my MacBook Air. I have the new voices that come with Lion, and eleven or so Acapela voices. Cheers, Anne On 29 Oct 2011, at 18:52, Denise Avant wrote: hi all, i tried out one of the new voices in lion. i do not think i like it. is there a way to uninstall it so i can try a different one? thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: getting additional voices in different languages
Hey Priscilla. If you have Lion, you can download several voices that speak other languages. These voices are free. If you're still running Snow Leopard, you can find voices from Acapela that speak in different languages on assistiveware's website. The voices are free for 30 days, and then they cost around $100 after the 30 days. HTH. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
getting additional voices in different languages
Hello listers, I am planning to study french at some point. How do I go about getting additional voices in other languages besides english? Sometimes I want to even read stuff in spanish? Do you know if anyone has any success with the rosetta stone software? I bought a french course but the CD are only audio and the book is obviously not accessible because it's in print. I would like to learn another foreign language, but for me to do that I would like to know where I can get good voices that speak various languages? Any feedback, please contact me. Thank you very much. Priscilla Garces priscillagarces1...@hotmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
additional voices?
I still can't find the other voices, no pop up menu is appearing when I go to the voices tab in voice over utilities. What am I missing here? Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (Marriage group) http://groups.google.com/group/committed-married-christians Sent From my Imac -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:11 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The lion sleeps tonight Hi, If your a voiceover user, its a great deal for $30 in my opinion. We now have 1 letter navigation in the web browser, profiles you can set up for different apps. A boat load of new high quality voices for no extra charge. And I'm sure I'm missing some new features. I can't see any reason not to upgrade unless there is some important app you use that is not Lion compatible. On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Brian Miller wrote: I haven't seen anyone say one way or the other whether or not one ought to download and install Lion... Can we be certain it is the best thing for those of us who use Voice Over? What are the changes? What are the benefits? I'm a little reluctant to just download Lion because it is there. What happens if I don't download it? Brian Miller -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: additional voices?
Hi, You're probably just unaware of which popup we're talking about. THe one we refer to is bethe one where you select your default voice, underneath the Voice label in the Speech section. At the bottom of that menu will be a Customize item which you select. In that dialog which will appear you'll find a table of voices. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:26 PM, KliphSharrie wrote: I still can't find the other voices, no pop up menu is appearing when I go to the voices tab in voice over utilities. What am I missing here? Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (Marriage group) http://groups.google.com/group/committed-married-christians Sent From my Imac -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:11 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The lion sleeps tonight Hi, If your a voiceover user, its a great deal for $30 in my opinion. We now have 1 letter navigation in the web browser, profiles you can set up for different apps. A boat load of new high quality voices for no extra charge. And I'm sure I'm missing some new features. I can't see any reason not to upgrade unless there is some important app you use that is not Lion compatible. On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Brian Miller wrote: I haven't seen anyone say one way or the other whether or not one ought to download and install Lion... Can we be certain it is the best thing for those of us who use Voice Over? What are the changes? What are the benefits? I'm a little reluctant to just download Lion because it is there. What happens if I don't download it? Brian Miller -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: additional voices?
Oh, I did see that but thought it meant something else. Thanks! Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi, You're probably just unaware of which popup we're talking about. THe one we refer to is bethe one where you select your default voice, underneath the Voice label in the Speech section. At the bottom of that menu will be a Customize item which you select. In that dialog which will appear you'll find a table of voices. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:26 PM, KliphSharrie wrote: I still can't find the other voices, no pop up menu is appearing when I go to the voices tab in voice over utilities. What am I missing here? Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (Marriage group) http://groups.google.com/group/committed-married-christians Sent From my Imac -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:11 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The lion sleeps tonight Hi, If your a voiceover user, its a great deal for $30 in my opinion. We now have 1 letter navigation in the web browser, profiles you can set up for different apps. A boat load of new high quality voices for no extra charge. And I'm sure I'm missing some new features. I can't see any reason not to upgrade unless there is some important app you use that is not Lion compatible. On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Brian Miller wrote: I haven't seen anyone say one way or the other whether or not one ought to download and install Lion... Can we be certain it is the best thing for those of us who use Voice Over? What are the changes? What are the benefits? I'm a little reluctant to just download Lion because it is there. What happens if I don't download it? Brian Miller -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
