Re: any good and actually accessible third party transfer tools

2017-03-05 Thread Ray Foret jr 
That is strange.  How is it that it’s accessible for you and not me?  All I get 
is tables that say Unknown unknown unknown and so forth.  Can’t get past that 
with the demo version of it at all.  You must have set something differently 
than I did or else you’re using a different version.  What ever it may be, I’d 
like to know.


Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!

> On Mar 5, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Rami Ahmad  wrote:
> 
> IMazing is accessible in the most part of it. i am using it to backup and 
> browse my iDevice contents.
>  
> 
> On Mar 5, 2017, at 6:30 PM, Ray Foret jr  > wrote:
> 
>> Imazing is totally worse than useless for us because it’s totally not 
>> accessible at all.  Just tried a demo of it.  Worse than  useless.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>> 
>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Mar 5, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Robert Carter >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I thought the iMazing app was accessible but am not sure. I have not tried 
>>> it but it is the transfer tool that I hear most often referred to.
>>> 
>>> Robert Carter
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2017, at 7:15 PM, Ray Foret jr > wrote:
 
 That I will.  I thought I’d give iTools Pro a look and it looks like it’s 
 also going to work:  but, here’s the funny thing.  Turns out that the 
 files I thought I had on my iPhone might actually be in iCloud Music 
 because I can access them on my phone but when I went to take a good close 
 look, I saw download uttons by each custom album and the download buttons 
 are not dimmed out.  However, I do thank you for the Waltr2 reference.
 
 I will have to go take a look at that.  
 Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in
 
 Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
 
 Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
 iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
 
> On Mar 4, 2017, at 4:02 PM, jeff `greene  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Ray, I just bought Waltr2 from softorino software. It seems pretty
> accessible and supposedly you can transfrer anything to or from your
> iphone to your mac or windows pc. It costs $39 just google it!
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On 3/4/17, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  > wrote:
>> Okay thought image capture would do the trick, i guess you are left with
>> email.
>> 
>> On 3/4/17, Sandi Jazmin Kruse > > wrote:
>>> Ray, let me try something and be back with you :)
>>> 
>>> On 3/4/17, Ray Foret jr >> > wrote:
 Was hoping I would be able to hook up my iPHone directly to my Mac 
 using
 USB
 and use an actually accessible transfer app to take care of it.  Jail
 break
 is not an option nor is Drop Box it looks like because I get transfer
 errors
 in spite of the buttons all being there and not grayed out.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
 blind
 built-in
 
 Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
 
 Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon 
 Wireless
 iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
 
> On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Jonathan Cohn  >
> wrote:
> 
> Ray,
> 
> I believe that with IOS applications you are dependent on what that
> application wants to make available. Generally, if the share 
> activities
> area allows you to share to DropBox or iTunes then you should be in
> pretty
> good shape to get the file on your Macintosh. Other than that, I
> believe
> that a Jail Break solution is your only other alternative, an even 
> then
> you would have to do some reverse engineering for each application.
> 
> Is there perhaps a share via e-mail option for what you want to share?
> I
> always claimed that eMail was not a file transfer protocol, but in
> these
> days of automatically using iCloud for

Re: any good and actually accessible third party transfer tools

2017-03-05 Thread Rami Ahmad 
IMazing is accessible in the most part of it. i am using it to backup and 
browse my iDevice contents.
 

> On Mar 5, 2017, at 6:30 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
> Imazing is totally worse than useless for us because it’s totally not 
> accessible at all.  Just tried a demo of it.  Worse than  useless.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
> 
> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Mar 5, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I thought the iMazing app was accessible but am not sure. I have not tried 
>> it but it is the transfer tool that I hear most often referred to.
>> 
>> Robert Carter
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 7:15 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That I will.  I thought I’d give iTools Pro a look and it looks like it’s 
>>> also going to work:  but, here’s the funny thing.  Turns out that the files 
>>> I thought I had on my iPhone might actually be in iCloud Music because I 
>>> can access them on my phone but when I went to take a good close look, I 
>>> saw download uttons by each custom album and the download buttons are not 
>>> dimmed out.  However, I do thank you for the Waltr2 reference.
>>> 
>>> I will have to go take a look at that.  
>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>>> 
>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
>>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2017, at 4:02 PM, jeff `greene  wrote:
 
 Hi Ray, I just bought Waltr2 from softorino software. It seems pretty
 accessible and supposedly you can transfrer anything to or from your
 iphone to your mac or windows pc. It costs $39 just google it!
 Jeff
 
 
> On 3/4/17, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> Okay thought image capture would do the trick, i guess you are left with
> email.
> 
>> On 3/4/17, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
>> Ray, let me try something and be back with you :)
>> 
>>> On 3/4/17, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>>> Was hoping I would be able to hook up my iPHone directly to my Mac using
>>> USB
>>> and use an actually accessible transfer app to take care of it.  Jail
>>> break
>>> is not an option nor is Drop Box it looks like because I get transfer
>>> errors
>>> in spite of the buttons all being there and not grayed out.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
>>> blind
>>> built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>>> 
>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
>>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Jonathan Cohn 
 wrote:
 
 Ray,
 
 I believe that with IOS applications you are dependent on what that
 application wants to make available. Generally, if the share activities
 area allows you to share to DropBox or iTunes then you should be in
 pretty
 good shape to get the file on your Macintosh. Other than that, I
 believe
 that a Jail Break solution is your only other alternative, an even then
 you would have to do some reverse engineering for each application.
 
 Is there perhaps a share via e-mail option for what you want to share?
 I
 always claimed that eMail was not a file transfer protocol, but in
 these
 days of automatically using iCloud for mail file attachments,
 consistent
 use of MIME  encapsulation, and encryption mail services it often seems
 to
 be more secure and reliable than using ftp, sftp rcp or other
 alternatives
 especially if you don't have an account on the both  systems.
 
 In general the Apple environment has been moving away from user
 controlled
 cross application support to instead use restricted use extensions that
 only allow controlled access from one application or service to
 another.
 This improves security of the systems but makes it difficult when the
 user
 does not fit into the standard mold. I just found on my work computer I
 was unable to rename a text file with an html extension except by going
 into the terminal.
 
 If this type of thing interests you, there was a great article last
 month
 I can written by a former Apple employee about how Extension services
 are
 not as flexible or

Re: any good and actually accessible third party transfer tools

2017-03-05 Thread Ray Foret jr 
Imazing is totally worse than useless for us because it’s totally not 
accessible at all.  Just tried a demo of it.  Worse than  useless.


Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!

> On Mar 5, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I thought the iMazing app was accessible but am not sure. I have not tried it 
> but it is the transfer tool that I hear most often referred to.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 7:15 PM, Ray Foret jr > > wrote:
>> 
>> That I will.  I thought I’d give iTools Pro a look and it looks like it’s 
>> also going to work:  but, here’s the funny thing.  Turns out that the files 
>> I thought I had on my iPhone might actually be in iCloud Music because I can 
>> access them on my phone but when I went to take a good close look, I saw 
>> download uttons by each custom album and the download buttons are not dimmed 
>> out.  However, I do thank you for the Waltr2 reference.
>> 
>> I will have to go take a look at that.  
>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>> 
>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 4:02 PM, jeff `greene >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ray, I just bought Waltr2 from softorino software. It seems pretty
>>> accessible and supposedly you can transfrer anything to or from your
>>> iphone to your mac or windows pc. It costs $39 just google it!
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/4/17, Sandi Jazmin Kruse >> > wrote:
 Okay thought image capture would do the trick, i guess you are left with
 email.
 
 On 3/4/17, Sandi Jazmin Kruse > wrote:
> Ray, let me try something and be back with you :)
> 
> On 3/4/17, Ray Foret jr  > wrote:
>> Was hoping I would be able to hook up my iPHone directly to my Mac using
>> USB
>> and use an actually accessible transfer app to take care of it.  Jail
>> break
>> is not an option nor is Drop Box it looks like because I get transfer
>> errors
>> in spite of the buttons all being there and not grayed out.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
>> blind
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>> 
>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Jonathan Cohn >> >
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ray,
>>> 
>>> I believe that with IOS applications you are dependent on what that
>>> application wants to make available. Generally, if the share activities
>>> area allows you to share to DropBox or iTunes then you should be in
>>> pretty
>>> good shape to get the file on your Macintosh. Other than that, I
>>> believe
>>> that a Jail Break solution is your only other alternative, an even then
>>> you would have to do some reverse engineering for each application.
>>> 
>>> Is there perhaps a share via e-mail option for what you want to share?
>>> I
>>> always claimed that eMail was not a file transfer protocol, but in
>>> these
>>> days of automatically using iCloud for mail file attachments,
>>> consistent
>>> use of MIME  encapsulation, and encryption mail services it often seems
>>> to
>>> be more secure and reliable than using ftp, sftp rcp or other
>>> alternatives
>>> especially if you don't have an account on the both  systems.
>>> 
>>> In general the Apple environment has been moving away from user
>>> controlled
>>> cross application support to instead use restricted use extensions that
>>> only allow controlled access from one application or service to
>>> another.
>>> This improves security of the systems but makes it difficult when the
>>> user
>>> does not fit into the standard mold. I just found on my work computer I
>>> was unable to rename a text file with an html extension except by going
>>> into the terminal.
>>> 
>>> If this type of thing interests you, there was a great article last
>>> month
>>> I can written by a former Apple employee about how Extension services
>>> are
>>> not as flexible or powerful as the Scripting functionality in MacOS and
>>> how if Apple reduces support for this,

Re: any good and actually accessible third party transfer tools

2017-03-05 Thread Robert Carter 
Hi,

I thought the iMazing app was accessible but am not sure. I have not tried it 
but it is the transfer tool that I hear most often referred to.

Robert Carter


> On Mar 4, 2017, at 7:15 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
> That I will.  I thought I’d give iTools Pro a look and it looks like it’s 
> also going to work:  but, here’s the funny thing.  Turns out that the files I 
> thought I had on my iPhone might actually be in iCloud Music because I can 
> access them on my phone but when I went to take a good close look, I saw 
> download uttons by each custom album and the download buttons are not dimmed 
> out.  However, I do thank you for the Waltr2 reference.
> 
> I will have to go take a look at that.  
> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
> 
> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 4:02 PM, jeff `greene > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ray, I just bought Waltr2 from softorino software. It seems pretty
>> accessible and supposedly you can transfrer anything to or from your
>> iphone to your mac or windows pc. It costs $39 just google it!
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/4/17, Sandi Jazmin Kruse > > wrote:
>>> Okay thought image capture would do the trick, i guess you are left with
>>> email.
>>> 
>>> On 3/4/17, Sandi Jazmin Kruse >> > wrote:
 Ray, let me try something and be back with you :)
 
 On 3/4/17, Ray Foret jr > wrote:
> Was hoping I would be able to hook up my iPHone directly to my Mac using
> USB
> and use an actually accessible transfer app to take care of it.  Jail
> break
> is not an option nor is Drop Box it looks like because I get transfer
> errors
> in spite of the buttons all being there and not grayed out.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
> blind
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
> 
> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Jonathan Cohn > >
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ray,
>> 
>> I believe that with IOS applications you are dependent on what that
>> application wants to make available. Generally, if the share activities
>> area allows you to share to DropBox or iTunes then you should be in
>> pretty
>> good shape to get the file on your Macintosh. Other than that, I
>> believe
>> that a Jail Break solution is your only other alternative, an even then
>> you would have to do some reverse engineering for each application.
>> 
>> Is there perhaps a share via e-mail option for what you want to share?
>> I
>> always claimed that eMail was not a file transfer protocol, but in
>> these
>> days of automatically using iCloud for mail file attachments,
>> consistent
>> use of MIME  encapsulation, and encryption mail services it often seems
>> to
>> be more secure and reliable than using ftp, sftp rcp or other
>> alternatives
>> especially if you don't have an account on the both  systems.
>> 
>> In general the Apple environment has been moving away from user
>> controlled
>> cross application support to instead use restricted use extensions that
>> only allow controlled access from one application or service to
>> another.
>> This improves security of the systems but makes it difficult when the
>> user
>> does not fit into the standard mold. I just found on my work computer I
>> was unable to rename a text file with an html extension except by going
>> into the terminal.
>> 
>> If this type of thing interests you, there was a great article last
>> month
>> I can written by a former Apple employee about how Extension services
>> are
>> not as flexible or powerful as the Scripting functionality in MacOS and
>> how if Apple reduces support for this, then power users will be forced
>> to
>> other platforms.
>> 
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 3, 2017, at 11:09 PM, Ray Foret jr >> 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay,
>>> 
>>> Does anybody out there know of a good and actually accessible third
>>> party
>>> transfer tool with which I can transfer content from my iPhone to my
>>> Mac?
>>> And please

Re: any good and actually accessible third party transfer tools

2017-03-04 Thread Ray Foret jr 
That I will.  I thought I’d give iTools Pro a look and it looks like it’s also 
going to work:  but, here’s the funny thing.  Turns out that the files I 
thought I had on my iPhone might actually be in iCloud Music because I can 
access them on my phone but when I went to take a good close look, I saw 
download uttons by each custom album and the download buttons are not dimmed 
out.  However, I do thank you for the Waltr2 reference.

I will have to go take a look at that.  
Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!

> On Mar 4, 2017, at 4:02 PM, jeff `greene  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ray, I just bought Waltr2 from softorino software. It seems pretty
> accessible and supposedly you can transfrer anything to or from your
> iphone to your mac or windows pc. It costs $39 just google it!
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On 3/4/17, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
>> Okay thought image capture would do the trick, i guess you are left with
>> email.
>> 
>> On 3/4/17, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
>>> Ray, let me try something and be back with you :)
>>> 
>>> On 3/4/17, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
 Was hoping I would be able to hook up my iPHone directly to my Mac using
 USB
 and use an actually accessible transfer app to take care of it.  Jail
 break
 is not an option nor is Drop Box it looks like because I get transfer
 errors
 in spite of the buttons all being there and not grayed out.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
 blind
 built-in
 
 Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
 
 Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
 iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
 
> On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Jonathan Cohn 
> wrote:
> 
> Ray,
> 
> I believe that with IOS applications you are dependent on what that
> application wants to make available. Generally, if the share activities
> area allows you to share to DropBox or iTunes then you should be in
> pretty
> good shape to get the file on your Macintosh. Other than that, I
> believe
> that a Jail Break solution is your only other alternative, an even then
> you would have to do some reverse engineering for each application.
> 
> Is there perhaps a share via e-mail option for what you want to share?
> I
> always claimed that eMail was not a file transfer protocol, but in
> these
> days of automatically using iCloud for mail file attachments,
> consistent
> use of MIME  encapsulation, and encryption mail services it often seems
> to
> be more secure and reliable than using ftp, sftp rcp or other
> alternatives
> especially if you don't have an account on the both  systems.
> 
> In general the Apple environment has been moving away from user
> controlled
> cross application support to instead use restricted use extensions that
> only allow controlled access from one application or service to
> another.
> This improves security of the systems but makes it difficult when the
> user
> does not fit into the standard mold. I just found on my work computer I
> was unable to rename a text file with an html extension except by going
> into the terminal.
> 
> If this type of thing interests you, there was a great article last
> month
> I can written by a former Apple employee about how Extension services
> are
> not as flexible or powerful as the Scripting functionality in MacOS and
> how if Apple reduces support for this, then power users will be forced
> to
> other platforms.
> 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2017, at 11:09 PM, Ray Foret jr > > wrote:
>> 
>> Okay,
>> 
>> Does anybody out there know of a good and actually accessible third
>> party
>> transfer tool with which I can transfer content from my iPhone to my
>> Mac?
>> And please don’t mention iTunes because that will not do what I want
>> to
>> do.  Everything I have tried has basically just plain sucked because
>> it’s
>> not accessible.  Even iMazing is not accessible.  It seems that even
>> anytrans, (which used to be reasonably accessible) has gone down the
>> tubes.  It would appear, (so far) as if there is not a single third
>> party
>> transfer app that is worth much a damn!!!  Any thoughts?  Oh, and
>> before
>> you say Drop box, that won’t do it either.  I tried to move stuff from
>> the Audio Share app in to drop box and got a transfer

Re: any good and actually accessible third party transfer tools

2017-03-04 Thread jeff `greene 
Hi Ray, I just bought Waltr2 from softorino software. It seems pretty
accessible and supposedly you can transfrer anything to or from your
iphone to your mac or windows pc. It costs $39 just google it!
Jeff


On 3/4/17, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> Okay thought image capture would do the trick, i guess you are left with
> email.
>
> On 3/4/17, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
>> Ray, let me try something and be back with you :)
>>
>> On 3/4/17, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>>> Was hoping I would be able to hook up my iPHone directly to my Mac using
>>> USB
>>> and use an actually accessible transfer app to take care of it.  Jail
>>> break
>>> is not an option nor is Drop Box it looks like because I get transfer
>>> errors
>>> in spite of the buttons all being there and not grayed out.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
>>> blind
>>> built-in
>>>
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>>>
>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
>>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>>>
 On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Jonathan Cohn 
 wrote:

 Ray,

 I believe that with IOS applications you are dependent on what that
 application wants to make available. Generally, if the share activities
 area allows you to share to DropBox or iTunes then you should be in
 pretty
 good shape to get the file on your Macintosh. Other than that, I
 believe
 that a Jail Break solution is your only other alternative, an even then
 you would have to do some reverse engineering for each application.

 Is there perhaps a share via e-mail option for what you want to share?
 I
 always claimed that eMail was not a file transfer protocol, but in
 these
 days of automatically using iCloud for mail file attachments,
 consistent
 use of MIME  encapsulation, and encryption mail services it often seems
 to
 be more secure and reliable than using ftp, sftp rcp or other
 alternatives
 especially if you don't have an account on the both  systems.

 In general the Apple environment has been moving away from user
 controlled
 cross application support to instead use restricted use extensions that
 only allow controlled access from one application or service to
 another.
 This improves security of the systems but makes it difficult when the
 user
 does not fit into the standard mold. I just found on my work computer I
 was unable to rename a text file with an html extension except by going
 into the terminal.

 If this type of thing interests you, there was a great article last
 month
 I can written by a former Apple employee about how Extension services
 are
 not as flexible or powerful as the Scripting functionality in MacOS and
 how if Apple reduces support for this, then power users will be forced
 to
 other platforms.


Best wishes,

 Jonathan Cohn




> On Mar 3, 2017, at 11:09 PM, Ray Foret jr  > wrote:
>
> Okay,
>
> Does anybody out there know of a good and actually accessible third
> party
> transfer tool with which I can transfer content from my iPhone to my
> Mac?
>  And please don’t mention iTunes because that will not do what I want
> to
> do.  Everything I have tried has basically just plain sucked because
> it’s
> not accessible.  Even iMazing is not accessible.  It seems that even
> anytrans, (which used to be reasonably accessible) has gone down the
> tubes.  It would appear, (so far) as if there is not a single third
> party
> transfer app that is worth much a damn!!!  Any thoughts?  Oh, and
> before
> you say Drop box, that won’t do it either.  I tried to move stuff from
> the Audio Share app in to drop box and got a transfer error of some
> kind.
>  iDrive is not an option either
>
> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
> blind
> built-in
>
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>
> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon
> Wireless
> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>
>
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Re: any good and actually accessible third party transfer tools

2017-03-04 Thread Sandi Jazmin Kruse 
Okay thought image capture would do the trick, i guess you are left with email.

On 3/4/17, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> Ray, let me try something and be back with you :)
>
> On 3/4/17, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>> Was hoping I would be able to hook up my iPHone directly to my Mac using
>> USB
>> and use an actually accessible transfer app to take care of it.  Jail
>> break
>> is not an option nor is Drop Box it looks like because I get transfer
>> errors
>> in spite of the buttons all being there and not grayed out.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind
>> built-in
>>
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>>
>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>>
>>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>>>
>>> Ray,
>>>
>>> I believe that with IOS applications you are dependent on what that
>>> application wants to make available. Generally, if the share activities
>>> area allows you to share to DropBox or iTunes then you should be in
>>> pretty
>>> good shape to get the file on your Macintosh. Other than that, I believe
>>> that a Jail Break solution is your only other alternative, an even then
>>> you would have to do some reverse engineering for each application.
>>>
>>> Is there perhaps a share via e-mail option for what you want to share? I
>>> always claimed that eMail was not a file transfer protocol, but in these
>>> days of automatically using iCloud for mail file attachments, consistent
>>> use of MIME  encapsulation, and encryption mail services it often seems
>>> to
>>> be more secure and reliable than using ftp, sftp rcp or other
>>> alternatives
>>> especially if you don't have an account on the both  systems.
>>>
>>> In general the Apple environment has been moving away from user
>>> controlled
>>> cross application support to instead use restricted use extensions that
>>> only allow controlled access from one application or service to another.
>>> This improves security of the systems but makes it difficult when the
>>> user
>>> does not fit into the standard mold. I just found on my work computer I
>>> was unable to rename a text file with an html extension except by going
>>> into the terminal.
>>>
>>> If this type of thing interests you, there was a great article last
>>> month
>>> I can written by a former Apple employee about how Extension services
>>> are
>>> not as flexible or powerful as the Scripting functionality in MacOS and
>>> how if Apple reduces support for this, then power users will be forced
>>> to
>>> other platforms.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On Mar 3, 2017, at 11:09 PM, Ray Foret jr > wrote:

 Okay,

 Does anybody out there know of a good and actually accessible third
 party
 transfer tool with which I can transfer content from my iPhone to my
 Mac?
  And please don’t mention iTunes because that will not do what I want
 to
 do.  Everything I have tried has basically just plain sucked because
 it’s
 not accessible.  Even iMazing is not accessible.  It seems that even
 anytrans, (which used to be reasonably accessible) has gone down the
 tubes.  It would appear, (so far) as if there is not a single third
 party
 transfer app that is worth much a damn!!!  Any thoughts?  Oh, and
 before
 you say Drop box, that won’t do it either.  I tried to move stuff from
 the Audio Share app in to drop box and got a transfer error of some
 kind.
  iDrive is not an option either

 Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
 blind
 built-in

 Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

 Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon
 Wireless
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Re: any good and actually accessible third party transfer tools

2017-03-04 Thread Sandi Jazmin Kruse 
Ray, let me try something and be back with you :)

On 3/4/17, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> Was hoping I would be able to hook up my iPHone directly to my Mac using USB
> and use an actually accessible transfer app to take care of it.  Jail break
> is not an option nor is Drop Box it looks like because I get transfer errors
> in spite of the buttons all being there and not grayed out.
>
>
> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind
> built-in
>
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>
> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>
>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>>
>> Ray,
>>
>> I believe that with IOS applications you are dependent on what that
>> application wants to make available. Generally, if the share activities
>> area allows you to share to DropBox or iTunes then you should be in pretty
>> good shape to get the file on your Macintosh. Other than that, I believe
>> that a Jail Break solution is your only other alternative, an even then
>> you would have to do some reverse engineering for each application.
>>
>> Is there perhaps a share via e-mail option for what you want to share? I
>> always claimed that eMail was not a file transfer protocol, but in these
>> days of automatically using iCloud for mail file attachments, consistent
>> use of MIME  encapsulation, and encryption mail services it often seems to
>> be more secure and reliable than using ftp, sftp rcp or other alternatives
>> especially if you don't have an account on the both  systems.
>>
>> In general the Apple environment has been moving away from user controlled
>> cross application support to instead use restricted use extensions that
>> only allow controlled access from one application or service to another.
>> This improves security of the systems but makes it difficult when the user
>> does not fit into the standard mold. I just found on my work computer I
>> was unable to rename a text file with an html extension except by going
>> into the terminal.
>>
>> If this type of thing interests you, there was a great article last month
>> I can written by a former Apple employee about how Extension services are
>> not as flexible or powerful as the Scripting functionality in MacOS and
>> how if Apple reduces support for this, then power users will be forced to
>> other platforms.
>>
>>
>>  Best wishes,
>>
>> Jonathan Cohn
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 3, 2017, at 11:09 PM, Ray Foret jr >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Okay,
>>>
>>> Does anybody out there know of a good and actually accessible third party
>>> transfer tool with which I can transfer content from my iPhone to my Mac?
>>>  And please don’t mention iTunes because that will not do what I want to
>>> do.  Everything I have tried has basically just plain sucked because it’s
>>> not accessible.  Even iMazing is not accessible.  It seems that even
>>> anytrans, (which used to be reasonably accessible) has gone down the
>>> tubes.  It would appear, (so far) as if there is not a single third party
>>> transfer app that is worth much a damn!!!  Any thoughts?  Oh, and before
>>> you say Drop box, that won’t do it either.  I tried to move stuff from
>>> the Audio Share app in to drop box and got a transfer error of some kind.
>>>  iDrive is not an option either
>>>
>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind
>>> built-in
>>>
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>>>
>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
>>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>>>
>>>
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Re: any good and actually accessible third party transfer tools

2017-03-04 Thread Ray Foret jr 
Was hoping I would be able to hook up my iPHone directly to my Mac using USB 
and use an actually accessible transfer app to take care of it.  Jail break is 
not an option nor is Drop Box it looks like because I get transfer errors in 
spite of the buttons all being there and not grayed out.


Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!

> On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Ray,
> 
> I believe that with IOS applications you are dependent on what that 
> application wants to make available. Generally, if the share activities area 
> allows you to share to DropBox or iTunes then you should be in pretty good 
> shape to get the file on your Macintosh. Other than that, I believe that a 
> Jail Break solution is your only other alternative, an even then you would 
> have to do some reverse engineering for each application. 
> 
> Is there perhaps a share via e-mail option for what you want to share? I 
> always claimed that eMail was not a file transfer protocol, but in these days 
> of automatically using iCloud for mail file attachments, consistent use of 
> MIME  encapsulation, and encryption mail services it often seems to be more 
> secure and reliable than using ftp, sftp rcp or other alternatives especially 
> if you don't have an account on the both  systems.
> 
> In general the Apple environment has been moving away from user controlled 
> cross application support to instead use restricted use extensions that only 
> allow controlled access from one application or service to another. This 
> improves security of the systems but makes it difficult when the user does 
> not fit into the standard mold. I just found on my work computer I was unable 
> to rename a text file with an html extension except by going into the 
> terminal. 
> 
> If this type of thing interests you, there was a great article last month I 
> can written by a former Apple employee about how Extension services are not 
> as flexible or powerful as the Scripting functionality in MacOS and how if 
> Apple reduces support for this, then power users will be forced to other 
> platforms.
> 
>   
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2017, at 11:09 PM, Ray Foret jr > > wrote:
>> 
>> Okay,
>> 
>> Does anybody out there know of a good and actually accessible third party 
>> transfer tool with which I can transfer content from my iPhone to my Mac?  
>> And please don’t mention iTunes because that will not do what I want to do.  
>> Everything I have tried has basically just plain sucked because it’s not 
>> accessible.  Even iMazing is not accessible.  It seems that even  anytrans, 
>> (which used to be reasonably accessible) has gone down the tubes.  It would 
>> appear, (so far) as if there is not a single third party transfer app that 
>> is worth much a damn!!!  Any thoughts?  Oh, and before you say Drop box, 
>> that won’t do it either.  I tried to move stuff from the Audio Share app in 
>> to drop box and got a transfer error of some kind.  iDrive is not an option 
>> either
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>> 
>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>> 
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Re: any good and actually accessible third party transfer tools

2017-03-04 Thread Jonathan Cohn 
Ray,

I believe that with IOS applications you are dependent on what that application 
wants to make available. Generally, if the share activities area allows you to 
share to DropBox or iTunes then you should be in pretty good shape to get the 
file on your Macintosh. Other than that, I believe that a Jail Break solution 
is your only other alternative, an even then you would have to do some reverse 
engineering for each application. 

Is there perhaps a share via e-mail option for what you want to share? I always 
claimed that eMail was not a file transfer protocol, but in these days of 
automatically using iCloud for mail file attachments, consistent use of MIME  
encapsulation, and encryption mail services it often seems to be more secure 
and reliable than using ftp, sftp rcp or other alternatives especially if you 
don't have an account on the both  systems.

In general the Apple environment has been moving away from user controlled 
cross application support to instead use restricted use extensions that only 
allow controlled access from one application or service to another. This 
improves security of the systems but makes it difficult when the user does not 
fit into the standard mold. I just found on my work computer I was unable to 
rename a text file with an html extension except by going into the terminal. 

If this type of thing interests you, there was a great article last month I can 
written by a former Apple employee about how Extension services are not as 
flexible or powerful as the Scripting functionality in MacOS and how if Apple 
reduces support for this, then power users will be forced to other platforms.

  
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 




> On Mar 3, 2017, at 11:09 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
> Okay,
> 
> Does anybody out there know of a good and actually accessible third party 
> transfer tool with which I can transfer content from my iPhone to my Mac?  
> And please don’t mention iTunes because that will not do what I want to do.  
> Everything I have tried has basically just plain sucked because it’s not 
> accessible.  Even iMazing is not accessible.  It seems that even  anytrans, 
> (which used to be reasonably accessible) has gone down the tubes.  It would 
> appear, (so far) as if there is not a single third party transfer app that is 
> worth much a damn!!!  Any thoughts?  Oh, and before you say Drop box, that 
> won’t do it either.  I tried to move stuff from the Audio Share app in to 
> drop box and got a transfer error of some kind.  iDrive is not an option 
> either
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
> 
> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
> 
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any good and actually accessible third party transfer tools

2017-03-03 Thread Ray Foret jr 
Okay,

Does anybody out there know of a good and actually accessible third party 
transfer tool with which I can transfer content from my iPhone to my Mac?  And 
please don’t mention iTunes because that will not do what I want to do.  
Everything I have tried has basically just plain sucked because it’s not 
accessible.  Even iMazing is not accessible.  It seems that even  anytrans, 
(which used to be reasonably accessible) has gone down the tubes.  It would 
appear, (so far) as if there is not a single third party transfer app that is 
worth much a damn!!!  Any thoughts?  Oh, and before you say Drop box, that 
won’t do it either.  I tried to move stuff from the Audio Share app in to drop 
box and got a transfer error of some kind.  iDrive is not an option either

Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!

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