Re: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App

2016-09-16 Thread Mário Navarro 




hi.
thank you for this.
I'll do my part.
cheers.

Às 19:26 de 15/09/2016, M. Taylor escreveu:

Hello Everyone,

Please join me in sending a VoiceOver feedback report to Apple regarding the
fact that VoiceOver users can no longer reorder Contacts listed in the
Favorites area of the Phone app.  Also, the Delete buttons are no longer
VoiceOver accessible.  Just so you know, using the VoiceOver Rotor, one can
delete a Contact from this list, however the Delete button displayed to the
left of each individual Contact item is inaccessible.

I have already written the report so all you need to do is to paste it into
a new email, either in its entirety or modified as you see fit.

[BEGIN REPORT]
Subject:  Reordering Favorite Contacts Control No Longer VoiceOver
Accessible in iOS 10.

In iOS 10, unlike in iOS 9.x, when VoiceOver is enabled, the user cannot
reorder Contacts in the Favorites area of the Phone app.

To reproduce this bug:

1.
Make certain that you have multiple Contacts selected as a Favorite.

2.
With VoiceOver enabled, open the Phone app.

3.
Select the Favorites Tab.

4.
Select the Edit button located near the upper right corner of the display.

5.
Even though the reorder controls are visible on the display, they are not
VoiceOver accessible.  It should also be noted that the Delete controls are
also visible but are also inaccessible via VoiceOver.
[END REPORT]

Thank you,

Mark



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RE: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App

2016-09-15 Thread M. Taylor 
No Problem, Scott, and thank you.

Before posting these to the list, I always submit them via the Bug Reporter but 
I find it helpful to add voices to the chorus, as it were.

You know, as of iOS 10, I closed 4 bug reports as they were finally, and I do 
mean, finally resolved.  For example, the ability to zoom the camera's view 
finder, when taking a picture was, after almost 2 years or so, resolved.  It 
had not worked since iOS 7.

Now, if they would only implement reverse panning for Braille displays ...  
(smile).

Mark  

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 5:09 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug 
Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App

Cut, paste and sent.  Great catch Mark.  Glad you are raising these 
accessibility concerns on list.

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 2:26 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Please join me in sending a VoiceOver feedback report to Apple 
> regarding the fact that VoiceOver users can no longer reorder Contacts 
> listed in the Favorites area of the Phone app.  Also, the Delete 
> buttons are no longer VoiceOver accessible.  Just so you know, using 
> the VoiceOver Rotor, one can delete a Contact from this list, however 
> the Delete button displayed to the left of each individual Contact item is 
> inaccessible.
> 
> I have already written the report so all you need to do is to paste it 
> into a new email, either in its entirety or modified as you see fit.
> 
> [BEGIN REPORT]
> Subject:  Reordering Favorite Contacts Control No Longer VoiceOver 
> Accessible in iOS 10.
> 
> In iOS 10, unlike in iOS 9.x, when VoiceOver is enabled, the user 
> cannot reorder Contacts in the Favorites area of the Phone app.
> 
> To reproduce this bug:
> 
> 1.
> Make certain that you have multiple Contacts selected as a Favorite.
> 
> 2.
> With VoiceOver enabled, open the Phone app.
> 
> 3.
> Select the Favorites Tab.
> 
> 4.
> Select the Edit button located near the upper right corner of the display.
> 
> 5.
> Even though the reorder controls are visible on the display, they are 
> not VoiceOver accessible.  It should also be noted that the Delete 
> controls are also visible but are also inaccessible via VoiceOver.
> [END REPORT]
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
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Re: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App

2016-09-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland 
OK, but not everyone can afford a new IPhone 7.  What about those like me, who 
can't?  Should we be made to suffer?  LOL!  Smile.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Kawal Gucukoglu 
  To: Macvisionaries 
  Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:50 PM
  Subject: Re: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug 
Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App


  When you have a new phone like the I phone 7 or 7 Plus, this bug might not be 
there.

On 15 Sep 2016, at 20:59, maurice.mines  wrote:


I was part of the Beta test, and this occurred rarely for me. So I don’t 
see a reason for me to amplify this. Because I think it would be tough for them 
to replicated my try going to the Genius Bar instead. To see if you can get the 
issue fixed 6s.  so that might make a difference in how I’m thinking about 
this. Hope this helps, Maurice.

  On Sep 15, 2016, at 12:54 PM, David Chittenden  
wrote:


  The rotor selects between functions for the single-finger vertical flick. 
It is, essentially a control panel for voiceover during normal operation. For 
instance, when reviewing what one is reading, setting rotor to characters, 
words, or lines, determines the amount voiceover reads per vertical flick. 
Twisting the rotor to language then allows changing of voiceover speaking 
language. Turning the rotor to text selection allows highlighting of text. 
Turning the rotor to edit allows selecting action to perform on the highlighted 
text. I am writing this response using braille screen input, which I activate 
by turning the rotor to braille screen input.

  David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
  Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
  Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
  Sent from my iPhone

  On 16/09/2016, at 06:32, Jed Barton  wrote:


Never used reorder.  What exactly does it do?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2016, at 2:26 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:


  Hello Everyone,

  Please join me in sending a VoiceOver feedback report to Apple 
regarding the
  fact that VoiceOver users can no longer reorder Contacts listed in the
  Favorites area of the Phone app.  Also, the Delete buttons are no 
longer
  VoiceOver accessible.  Just so you know, using the VoiceOver Rotor, 
one can
  delete a Contact from this list, however the Delete button displayed 
to the
  left of each individual Contact item is inaccessible.

  I have already written the report so all you need to do is to paste 
it into
  a new email, either in its entirety or modified as you see fit.

  [BEGIN REPORT]
  Subject:  Reordering Favorite Contacts Control No Longer VoiceOver
  Accessible in iOS 10.

  In iOS 10, unlike in iOS 9.x, when VoiceOver is enabled, the user 
cannot
  reorder Contacts in the Favorites area of the Phone app.  

  To reproduce this bug:

  1.
  Make certain that you have multiple Contacts selected as a Favorite.

  2.
  With VoiceOver enabled, open the Phone app.

  3.
  Select the Favorites Tab.

  4.
  Select the Edit button located near the upper right corner of the 
display.

  5.
  Even though the reorder controls are visible on the display, they are 
not
  VoiceOver accessible.  It should also be noted that the Delete 
controls are
  also visible but are also inaccessible via VoiceOver.
  [END REPORT]

  Thank you,

  Mark

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Re: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App

2016-09-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland 
The problem is, new bugs are cropping up that were not in the beta.  This is 
freaking ridiculous!  See my post on the Siri male voice, and apparently the 
guy at Accessibility I just spoke with was able not only to reproduce it, but 
he sent a message out across their internal chat system, and about 10 people 
responded during our call saying they, too, could reproduce that issue.  My 
point is, things are seeming with the official build, unlike the beta, to be 
getting way worse, which is surprising.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: maurice.mines 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:59 PM
  Subject: Re: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug 
Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App


  I was part of the Beta test, and this occurred rarely for me. So I don’t see 
a reason for me to amplify this. Because I think it would be tough for them to 
replicated my try going to the Genius Bar instead. To see if you can get the 
issue fixed 6s.  so that might make a difference in how I’m thinking about 
this. Hope this helps, Maurice.

On Sep 15, 2016, at 12:54 PM, David Chittenden  
wrote:


The rotor selects between functions for the single-finger vertical flick. 
It is, essentially a control panel for voiceover during normal operation. For 
instance, when reviewing what one is reading, setting rotor to characters, 
words, or lines, determines the amount voiceover reads per vertical flick. 
Twisting the rotor to language then allows changing of voiceover speaking 
language. Turning the rotor to text selection allows highlighting of text. 
Turning the rotor to edit allows selecting action to perform on the highlighted 
text. I am writing this response using braille screen input, which I activate 
by turning the rotor to braille screen input.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 16/09/2016, at 06:32, Jed Barton  wrote:


  Never used reorder.  What exactly does it do?

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 15, 2016, at 2:26 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:


Hello Everyone,

Please join me in sending a VoiceOver feedback report to Apple 
regarding the
fact that VoiceOver users can no longer reorder Contacts listed in the
Favorites area of the Phone app.  Also, the Delete buttons are no longer
VoiceOver accessible.  Just so you know, using the VoiceOver Rotor, one 
can
delete a Contact from this list, however the Delete button displayed to 
the
left of each individual Contact item is inaccessible.

I have already written the report so all you need to do is to paste it 
into
a new email, either in its entirety or modified as you see fit.

[BEGIN REPORT]
Subject:  Reordering Favorite Contacts Control No Longer VoiceOver
Accessible in iOS 10.

In iOS 10, unlike in iOS 9.x, when VoiceOver is enabled, the user cannot
reorder Contacts in the Favorites area of the Phone app.  

To reproduce this bug:

1.
Make certain that you have multiple Contacts selected as a Favorite.

2.
With VoiceOver enabled, open the Phone app.

3.
Select the Favorites Tab.

4.
Select the Edit button located near the upper right corner of the 
display.

5.
Even though the reorder controls are visible on the display, they are 
not
VoiceOver accessible.  It should also be noted that the Delete controls 
are
also visible but are also inaccessible via VoiceOver.
[END REPORT]

Thank you,

Mark

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Re: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App

2016-09-15 Thread Scott Granados 
Cut, paste and sent.  Great catch Mark.  Glad you are raising these 
accessibility concerns on list.

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 2:26 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Please join me in sending a VoiceOver feedback report to Apple regarding the
> fact that VoiceOver users can no longer reorder Contacts listed in the
> Favorites area of the Phone app.  Also, the Delete buttons are no longer
> VoiceOver accessible.  Just so you know, using the VoiceOver Rotor, one can
> delete a Contact from this list, however the Delete button displayed to the
> left of each individual Contact item is inaccessible.
> 
> I have already written the report so all you need to do is to paste it into
> a new email, either in its entirety or modified as you see fit.
> 
> [BEGIN REPORT]
> Subject:  Reordering Favorite Contacts Control No Longer VoiceOver
> Accessible in iOS 10.
> 
> In iOS 10, unlike in iOS 9.x, when VoiceOver is enabled, the user cannot
> reorder Contacts in the Favorites area of the Phone app.  
> 
> To reproduce this bug:
> 
> 1.
> Make certain that you have multiple Contacts selected as a Favorite.
> 
> 2.
> With VoiceOver enabled, open the Phone app.
> 
> 3.
> Select the Favorites Tab.
> 
> 4.
> Select the Edit button located near the upper right corner of the display.
> 
> 5.
> Even though the reorder controls are visible on the display, they are not
> VoiceOver accessible.  It should also be noted that the Delete controls are
> also visible but are also inaccessible via VoiceOver.
> [END REPORT]
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
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Re: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App

2016-09-15 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu 
When you have a new phone like the I phone 7 or 7 Plus, this bug might not be 
there.
> On 15 Sep 2016, at 20:59, maurice.mines  wrote:
> 
> I was part of the Beta test, and this occurred rarely for me. So I don’t see 
> a reason for me to amplify this. Because I think it would be tough for them 
> to replicated my try going to the Genius Bar instead. To see if you can get 
> the issue fixed 6s.  so that might make a difference in how I’m thinking 
> about this. Hope this helps, Maurice.
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 12:54 PM, David Chittenden > > wrote:
>> 
>> The rotor selects between functions for the single-finger vertical flick. It 
>> is, essentially a control panel for voiceover during normal operation. For 
>> instance, when reviewing what one is reading, setting rotor to characters, 
>> words, or lines, determines the amount voiceover reads per vertical flick. 
>> Twisting the rotor to language then allows changing of voiceover speaking 
>> language. Turning the rotor to text selection allows highlighting of text. 
>> Turning the rotor to edit allows selecting action to perform on the 
>> highlighted text. I am writing this response using braille screen input, 
>> which I activate by turning the rotor to braille screen input.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 16/09/2016, at 06:32, Jed Barton > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Never used reorder.  What exactly does it do?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 2:26 PM, M. Taylor >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 Please join me in sending a VoiceOver feedback report to Apple regarding 
 the
 fact that VoiceOver users can no longer reorder Contacts listed in the
 Favorites area of the Phone app.  Also, the Delete buttons are no longer
 VoiceOver accessible.  Just so you know, using the VoiceOver Rotor, one can
 delete a Contact from this list, however the Delete button displayed to the
 left of each individual Contact item is inaccessible.
 
 I have already written the report so all you need to do is to paste it into
 a new email, either in its entirety or modified as you see fit.
 
 [BEGIN REPORT]
 Subject:  Reordering Favorite Contacts Control No Longer VoiceOver
 Accessible in iOS 10.
 
 In iOS 10, unlike in iOS 9.x, when VoiceOver is enabled, the user cannot
 reorder Contacts in the Favorites area of the Phone app.  
 
 To reproduce this bug:
 
 1.
 Make certain that you have multiple Contacts selected as a Favorite.
 
 2.
 With VoiceOver enabled, open the Phone app.
 
 3.
 Select the Favorites Tab.
 
 4.
 Select the Edit button located near the upper right corner of the display.
 
 5.
 Even though the reorder controls are visible on the display, they are not
 VoiceOver accessible.  It should also be noted that the Delete controls are
 also visible but are also inaccessible via VoiceOver.
 [END REPORT]
 
 Thank you,
 
 Mark
 
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Re: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App

2016-09-15 Thread maurice.mines 
I was part of the Beta test, and this occurred rarely for me. So I don’t see a 
reason for me to amplify this. Because I think it would be tough for them to 
replicated my try going to the Genius Bar instead. To see if you can get the 
issue fixed 6s.  so that might make a difference in how I’m thinking about 
this. Hope this helps, Maurice.
> On Sep 15, 2016, at 12:54 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> The rotor selects between functions for the single-finger vertical flick. It 
> is, essentially a control panel for voiceover during normal operation. For 
> instance, when reviewing what one is reading, setting rotor to characters, 
> words, or lines, determines the amount voiceover reads per vertical flick. 
> Twisting the rotor to language then allows changing of voiceover speaking 
> language. Turning the rotor to text selection allows highlighting of text. 
> Turning the rotor to edit allows selecting action to perform on the 
> highlighted text. I am writing this response using braille screen input, 
> which I activate by turning the rotor to braille screen input.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 16/09/2016, at 06:32, Jed Barton  > wrote:
> 
>> Never used reorder.  What exactly does it do?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 2:26 PM, M. Taylor > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> Please join me in sending a VoiceOver feedback report to Apple regarding the
>>> fact that VoiceOver users can no longer reorder Contacts listed in the
>>> Favorites area of the Phone app.  Also, the Delete buttons are no longer
>>> VoiceOver accessible.  Just so you know, using the VoiceOver Rotor, one can
>>> delete a Contact from this list, however the Delete button displayed to the
>>> left of each individual Contact item is inaccessible.
>>> 
>>> I have already written the report so all you need to do is to paste it into
>>> a new email, either in its entirety or modified as you see fit.
>>> 
>>> [BEGIN REPORT]
>>> Subject:  Reordering Favorite Contacts Control No Longer VoiceOver
>>> Accessible in iOS 10.
>>> 
>>> In iOS 10, unlike in iOS 9.x, when VoiceOver is enabled, the user cannot
>>> reorder Contacts in the Favorites area of the Phone app.  
>>> 
>>> To reproduce this bug:
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> Make certain that you have multiple Contacts selected as a Favorite.
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> With VoiceOver enabled, open the Phone app.
>>> 
>>> 3.
>>> Select the Favorites Tab.
>>> 
>>> 4.
>>> Select the Edit button located near the upper right corner of the display.
>>> 
>>> 5.
>>> Even though the reorder controls are visible on the display, they are not
>>> VoiceOver accessible.  It should also be noted that the Delete controls are
>>> also visible but are also inaccessible via VoiceOver.
>>> [END REPORT]
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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Re: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App

2016-09-15 Thread David Chittenden 
The rotor selects between functions for the single-finger vertical flick. It 
is, essentially a control panel for voiceover during normal operation. For 
instance, when reviewing what one is reading, setting rotor to characters, 
words, or lines, determines the amount voiceover reads per vertical flick. 
Twisting the rotor to language then allows changing of voiceover speaking 
language. Turning the rotor to text selection allows highlighting of text. 
Turning the rotor to edit allows selecting action to perform on the highlighted 
text. I am writing this response using braille screen input, which I activate 
by turning the rotor to braille screen input.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 16/09/2016, at 06:32, Jed Barton  wrote:
> 
> Never used reorder.  What exactly does it do?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 2:26 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Please join me in sending a VoiceOver feedback report to Apple regarding the
>> fact that VoiceOver users can no longer reorder Contacts listed in the
>> Favorites area of the Phone app.  Also, the Delete buttons are no longer
>> VoiceOver accessible.  Just so you know, using the VoiceOver Rotor, one can
>> delete a Contact from this list, however the Delete button displayed to the
>> left of each individual Contact item is inaccessible.
>> 
>> I have already written the report so all you need to do is to paste it into
>> a new email, either in its entirety or modified as you see fit.
>> 
>> [BEGIN REPORT]
>> Subject:  Reordering Favorite Contacts Control No Longer VoiceOver
>> Accessible in iOS 10.
>> 
>> In iOS 10, unlike in iOS 9.x, when VoiceOver is enabled, the user cannot
>> reorder Contacts in the Favorites area of the Phone app.  
>> 
>> To reproduce this bug:
>> 
>> 1.
>> Make certain that you have multiple Contacts selected as a Favorite.
>> 
>> 2.
>> With VoiceOver enabled, open the Phone app.
>> 
>> 3.
>> Select the Favorites Tab.
>> 
>> 4.
>> Select the Edit button located near the upper right corner of the display.
>> 
>> 5.
>> Even though the reorder controls are visible on the display, they are not
>> VoiceOver accessible.  It should also be noted that the Delete controls are
>> also visible but are also inaccessible via VoiceOver.
>> [END REPORT]
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Mark
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Re: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App

2016-09-15 Thread Jed Barton 
Never used reorder.  What exactly does it do?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 2:26 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Please join me in sending a VoiceOver feedback report to Apple regarding the
> fact that VoiceOver users can no longer reorder Contacts listed in the
> Favorites area of the Phone app.  Also, the Delete buttons are no longer
> VoiceOver accessible.  Just so you know, using the VoiceOver Rotor, one can
> delete a Contact from this list, however the Delete button displayed to the
> left of each individual Contact item is inaccessible.
> 
> I have already written the report so all you need to do is to paste it into
> a new email, either in its entirety or modified as you see fit.
> 
> [BEGIN REPORT]
> Subject:  Reordering Favorite Contacts Control No Longer VoiceOver
> Accessible in iOS 10.
> 
> In iOS 10, unlike in iOS 9.x, when VoiceOver is enabled, the user cannot
> reorder Contacts in the Favorites area of the Phone app.  
> 
> To reproduce this bug:
> 
> 1.
> Make certain that you have multiple Contacts selected as a Favorite.
> 
> 2.
> With VoiceOver enabled, open the Phone app.
> 
> 3.
> Select the Favorites Tab.
> 
> 4.
> Select the Edit button located near the upper right corner of the display.
> 
> 5.
> Even though the reorder controls are visible on the display, they are not
> VoiceOver accessible.  It should also be noted that the Delete controls are
> also visible but are also inaccessible via VoiceOver.
> [END REPORT]
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
> 
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iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App

2016-09-15 Thread M. Taylor 
Hello Everyone,

Please join me in sending a VoiceOver feedback report to Apple regarding the
fact that VoiceOver users can no longer reorder Contacts listed in the
Favorites area of the Phone app.  Also, the Delete buttons are no longer
VoiceOver accessible.  Just so you know, using the VoiceOver Rotor, one can
delete a Contact from this list, however the Delete button displayed to the
left of each individual Contact item is inaccessible.

I have already written the report so all you need to do is to paste it into
a new email, either in its entirety or modified as you see fit.

[BEGIN REPORT]
Subject:  Reordering Favorite Contacts Control No Longer VoiceOver
Accessible in iOS 10.

In iOS 10, unlike in iOS 9.x, when VoiceOver is enabled, the user cannot
reorder Contacts in the Favorites area of the Phone app.  

To reproduce this bug:

1.
Make certain that you have multiple Contacts selected as a Favorite.

2.
With VoiceOver enabled, open the Phone app.

3.
Select the Favorites Tab.

4.
Select the Edit button located near the upper right corner of the display.

5.
Even though the reorder controls are visible on the display, they are not
VoiceOver accessible.  It should also be noted that the Delete controls are
also visible but are also inaccessible via VoiceOver.
[END REPORT]

Thank you,

Mark

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