Re: interesting bug with the save dialog

2009-09-03 Thread Krister Ekstrom


3 sep 2009 kl. 06.59 skrev Justin Harford:

 Go into textedit.  Write a document.  Press cmd s to open the save
 dialog.  Then try to tab over to the place where you select the
 folder, assuming that that you have that checkbox to the right of the
 name field checked.  After you tab past the sidebar, voiceover starts
 uncontrollably stuttering,  Lol it's doing it right now, gosh

I didn't see this problem when i tried this, but i have another  
interesting observation for ya: go into any open or save dialog, try  
using the side bar to select a disk. If you like me have no Mobile me,  
but for some reason have Idisk in your sidebar, you will find that you  
get a dialog that tells you that connection to the server  
idisk.mac.com can't be made. If you click the ok button, the same  
dialog will pop up again and again and if you ignore the dialog and go  
into the program where you opened the dialog, you will find it's busy  
and won't accept any commands.
The only way to get out of this infinite loop as far as i've found, is  
to simply force quit the program that opened the open or save dialog.
This is perfectly normal behaviour, i think, since there's no idisk  
because i have no mobileme, but i wonder how to get rid of the idisk  
in the side bar? I think i know how to do it, i just want it  
confirmed.:-)
/Krister

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Re: interesting bug with the save dialog

2009-09-03 Thread James Nash

Hi Justin,

It seems that people are having different issues with Voice Over, and not 
everyone can reproduce other's problems. It's getting to be more like Linux 
than Mac lol. Things seem to be breaking. Have you reported this to 
accessibil...@apple.com
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Hi all

An interesting SL bug for you.

Go into textedit.  Write a document.  Press cmd s to open the save
dialog.  Then try to tab over to the place where you select the
folder, assuming that that you have that checkbox to the right of the
name field checked.  After you tab past the sidebar, voiceover starts
uncontrollably stuttering,  Lol it's doing it right now, gosh
voiceover I didn't think it was that cold!

So basically my VO is completely messed up until I restart it. woof
much better.  Anyway the save dialog, from this end, is pretty much no
longer usable with the keyboard cursor.

Let me know what you all find.

Justin Harford


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Re: interesting bug with the save dialog

2009-09-03 Thread Woody Anna Dresner

Hi,

I'm not experiencing the stuttering either. Weird.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 2, 2009, at 11:59 PM, Justin Harford wrote:


 Hi all

 An interesting SL bug for you.

 Go into textedit.  Write a document.  Press cmd s to open the save
 dialog.  Then try to tab over to the place where you select the
 folder, assuming that that you have that checkbox to the right of the
 name field checked.  After you tab past the sidebar, voiceover starts
 uncontrollably stuttering,  Lol it's doing it right now, gosh
 voiceover I didn't think it was that cold!

 So basically my VO is completely messed up until I restart it… woof
 much better.  Anyway the save dialog, from this end, is pretty much no
 longer usable with the keyboard cursor.

 Let me know what you all find.

 Justin Harford
 


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Re: interesting bug with the save dialog

2009-09-03 Thread Simon Cavendish

I have a similar problem with Idisk but the variation is such as to  
demand a password from me as I happen to have IDisk. Because I do not  
wish to choose IDisk, I do not provide such a password. But then I'm  
stuck. the dialogue returns over and over again and I'm stuck. I can't  
go past the IDisk in the sidebar and therefore I am unable to choose  
any other location on my computer.

Best wishes

Simon
On 3 Sep 2009, at 10:32, Krister Ekstrom wrote:



 3 sep 2009 kl. 06.59 skrev Justin Harford:

 Go into textedit.  Write a document.  Press cmd s to open the save
 dialog.  Then try to tab over to the place where you select the
 folder, assuming that that you have that checkbox to the right of the
 name field checked.  After you tab past the sidebar, voiceover starts
 uncontrollably stuttering,  Lol it's doing it right now, gosh

 I didn't see this problem when i tried this, but i have another
 interesting observation for ya: go into any open or save dialog, try
 using the side bar to select a disk. If you like me have no Mobile me,
 but for some reason have Idisk in your sidebar, you will find that you
 get a dialog that tells you that connection to the server
 idisk.mac.com can't be made. If you click the ok button, the same
 dialog will pop up again and again and if you ignore the dialog and go
 into the program where you opened the dialog, you will find it's busy
 and won't accept any commands.
 The only way to get out of this infinite loop as far as i've found, is
 to simply force quit the program that opened the open or save dialog.
 This is perfectly normal behaviour, i think, since there's no idisk
 because i have no mobileme, but i wonder how to get rid of the idisk
 in the side bar? I think i know how to do it, i just want it
 confirmed.:-)
 /Krister

 


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Re: interesting bug with the save dialog

2009-09-03 Thread Esther

Hello Simon and Krister,

Can you remove the iDisk from the FInder sidebar by going to the  
Preferences menu for Finder (Command-Comma), and navigating to the  
Sidebar button on the toolbar, then pressing (VO-Space)?  On the  
Sidebar pane you should be able to uncheck any items you don't want  
displayed in the sidebar -- like the iDisk.

Cheers,

Esther

Simon Cavendish wrote:


 I have a similar problem with Idisk but the variation is such as to
 demand a password from me as I happen to have IDisk. Because I do not
 wish to choose IDisk, I do not provide such a password. But then I'm
 stuck. the dialogue returns over and over again and I'm stuck. I can't
 go past the IDisk in the sidebar and therefore I am unable to choose
 any other location on my computer.

 Best wishes

 Simon
 On 3 Sep 2009, Krister Ekstrom wrote:



 3 sep 2009 kl. 06.59 skrev Justin Harford:

 Go into textedit.  Write a document.  Press cmd s to open the save
 dialog.  Then try to tab over to the place where you select the
 folder, assuming that that you have that checkbox to the right of  
 the
 name field checked.  After you tab past the sidebar, voiceover  
 starts
 uncontrollably stuttering,  Lol it's doing it right now, gosh

 I didn't see this problem when i tried this, but i have another
 interesting observation for ya: go into any open or save dialog, try
 using the side bar to select a disk. If you like me have no Mobile  
 me,
 but for some reason have Idisk in your sidebar, you will find that  
 you
 get a dialog that tells you that connection to the server
 idisk.mac.com can't be made. If you click the ok button, the same
 dialog will pop up again and again and if you ignore the dialog and  
 go
 into the program where you opened the dialog, you will find it's busy
 and won't accept any commands.
 The only way to get out of this infinite loop as far as i've found,  
 is
 to simply force quit the program that opened the open or save dialog.
 This is perfectly normal behaviour, i think, since there's no idisk
 because i have no mobileme, but i wonder how to get rid of the idisk
 in the side bar? I think i know how to do it, i just want it
 confirmed.:-)
 /Krister




 


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Re: interesting bug with the save dialog

2009-09-03 Thread Marie Howarth

simon,
use letters to jump to the folders you wish in your sidebar. i.e, a  
for applications.
hth

On Sep 3, 2009, at 6:27 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:


 I have a similar problem with Idisk but the variation is such as to
 demand a password from me as I happen to have IDisk. Because I do not
 wish to choose IDisk, I do not provide such a password. But then I'm
 stuck. the dialogue returns over and over again and I'm stuck. I can't
 go past the IDisk in the sidebar and therefore I am unable to choose
 any other location on my computer.

 Best wishes

 Simon
 On 3 Sep 2009, at 10:32, Krister Ekstrom wrote:



 3 sep 2009 kl. 06.59 skrev Justin Harford:

 Go into textedit.  Write a document.  Press cmd s to open the save
 dialog.  Then try to tab over to the place where you select the
 folder, assuming that that you have that checkbox to the right of  
 the
 name field checked.  After you tab past the sidebar, voiceover  
 starts
 uncontrollably stuttering,  Lol it's doing it right now, gosh

 I didn't see this problem when i tried this, but i have another
 interesting observation for ya: go into any open or save dialog, try
 using the side bar to select a disk. If you like me have no Mobile  
 me,
 but for some reason have Idisk in your sidebar, you will find that  
 you
 get a dialog that tells you that connection to the server
 idisk.mac.com can't be made. If you click the ok button, the same
 dialog will pop up again and again and if you ignore the dialog and  
 go
 into the program where you opened the dialog, you will find it's busy
 and won't accept any commands.
 The only way to get out of this infinite loop as far as i've found,  
 is
 to simply force quit the program that opened the open or save dialog.
 This is perfectly normal behaviour, i think, since there's no idisk
 because i have no mobileme, but i wonder how to get rid of the idisk
 in the side bar? I think i know how to do it, i just want it
 confirmed.:-)
 /Krister




 


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Re: interesting bug with the save dialog

2009-09-03 Thread Esther

Hi Marie,

Yes, using the first few letters to navigate to devices in the sidebar  
works, but Simon and Krister should also be able to simply remove the  
problem entry from their sidebar by unchecking it in the Finder  
preferences for the Sidebar.

Cheers,

Esther

Marie Howarth wrote:


 simon,
 use letters to jump to the folders you wish in your sidebar. i.e, a
 for applications.
 hth

 On Sep 3, 2009, at 6:27 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:


 I have a similar problem with Idisk but the variation is such as to
 demand a password from me as I happen to have IDisk. Because I do not
 wish to choose IDisk, I do not provide such a password. But then I'm
 stuck. the dialogue returns over and over again and I'm stuck. I  
 can't
 go past the IDisk in the sidebar and therefore I am unable to choose
 any other location on my computer.

 Best wishes

 Simon
 On 3 Sep 2009, at 10:32, Krister Ekstrom wrote:



 3 sep 2009 kl. 06.59 skrev Justin Harford:

 Go into textedit.  Write a document.  Press cmd s to open the save
 dialog.  Then try to tab over to the place where you select the
 folder, assuming that that you have that checkbox to the right of
 the
 name field checked.  After you tab past the sidebar, voiceover
 starts
 uncontrollably stuttering,  Lol it's doing it right now, gosh

 I didn't see this problem when i tried this, but i have another
 interesting observation for ya: go into any open or save dialog, try
 using the side bar to select a disk. If you like me have no Mobile
 me,
 but for some reason have Idisk in your sidebar, you will find that
 you
 get a dialog that tells you that connection to the server
 idisk.mac.com can't be made. If you click the ok button, the same
 dialog will pop up again and again and if you ignore the dialog and
 go
 into the program where you opened the dialog, you will find it's  
 busy
 and won't accept any commands.
 The only way to get out of this infinite loop as far as i've found,
 is
 to simply force quit the program that opened the open or save  
 dialog.
 This is perfectly normal behaviour, i think, since there's no idisk
 because i have no mobileme, but i wonder how to get rid of the idisk
 in the side bar? I think i know how to do it, i just want it
 confirmed.:-)
 /Krister







 


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Re: interesting bug with the save dialog

2009-09-03 Thread Krister Ekstrom

Hi Esther and thanks for the tip. I'll try that right away! I didn't  
know how to actually remove things from the side bar.
/Krister


3 sep 2009 kl. 19.50 skrev Esther:


 Hello Simon and Krister,

 Can you remove the iDisk from the FInder sidebar by going to the
 Preferences menu for Finder (Command-Comma), and navigating to the
 Sidebar button on the toolbar, then pressing (VO-Space)?  On the
 Sidebar pane you should be able to uncheck any items you don't want
 displayed in the sidebar -- like the iDisk.

 Cheers,

 Esther

 Simon Cavendish wrote:


 I have a similar problem with Idisk but the variation is such as to
 demand a password from me as I happen to have IDisk. Because I do not
 wish to choose IDisk, I do not provide such a password. But then I'm
 stuck. the dialogue returns over and over again and I'm stuck. I  
 can't
 go past the IDisk in the sidebar and therefore I am unable to choose
 any other location on my computer.

 Best wishes

 Simon
 On 3 Sep 2009, Krister Ekstrom wrote:



 3 sep 2009 kl. 06.59 skrev Justin Harford:

 Go into textedit.  Write a document.  Press cmd s to open the save
 dialog.  Then try to tab over to the place where you select the
 folder, assuming that that you have that checkbox to the right of
 the
 name field checked.  After you tab past the sidebar, voiceover
 starts
 uncontrollably stuttering,  Lol it's doing it right now, gosh

 I didn't see this problem when i tried this, but i have another
 interesting observation for ya: go into any open or save dialog, try
 using the side bar to select a disk. If you like me have no Mobile
 me,
 but for some reason have Idisk in your sidebar, you will find that
 you
 get a dialog that tells you that connection to the server
 idisk.mac.com can't be made. If you click the ok button, the same
 dialog will pop up again and again and if you ignore the dialog and
 go
 into the program where you opened the dialog, you will find it's  
 busy
 and won't accept any commands.
 The only way to get out of this infinite loop as far as i've found,
 is
 to simply force quit the program that opened the open or save  
 dialog.
 This is perfectly normal behaviour, i think, since there's no idisk
 because i have no mobileme, but i wonder how to get rid of the idisk
 in the side bar? I think i know how to do it, i just want it
 confirmed.:-)
 /Krister







 


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Re: interesting bug with the save dialog

2009-09-03 Thread Dan Eickmeier

Hi Justin, I've noticed this in save,  and open dialogs as well,   
particularly on the side bar, Voiceover starts studdering, and I  
can't  seem to do  anything in this dialog, that is, select the  
location where I want to save to, oropen a   file  from.
On Sep 3, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:


 Hi,

 I'm not experiencing the stuttering either. Weird.

 Best,
 Anna



 On Sep 2, 2009, at 11:59 PM, Justin Harford wrote:


 Hi all

 An interesting SL bug for you.

 Go into textedit.  Write a document.  Press cmd s to open the save
 dialog.  Then try to tab over to the place where you select the
 folder, assuming that that you have that checkbox to the right of the
 name field checked.  After you tab past the sidebar, voiceover starts
 uncontrollably stuttering,  Lol it's doing it right now, gosh
 voiceover I didn't think it was that cold!

 So basically my VO is completely messed up until I restart it… woof
 much better.  Anyway the save dialog, from this end, is pretty much  
 no
 longer usable with the keyboard cursor.

 Let me know what you all find.

 Justin Harford



 


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interesting bug with the save dialog

2009-09-02 Thread Justin Harford

Hi all

An interesting SL bug for you.

Go into textedit.  Write a document.  Press cmd s to open the save  
dialog.  Then try to tab over to the place where you select the  
folder, assuming that that you have that checkbox to the right of the  
name field checked.  After you tab past the sidebar, voiceover starts  
uncontrollably stuttering,  Lol it's doing it right now, gosh  
voiceover I didn't think it was that cold!

So basically my VO is completely messed up until I restart it… woof  
much better.  Anyway the save dialog, from this end, is pretty much no  
longer usable with the keyboard cursor.

Let me know what you all find.

Justin Harford 
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Re: interesting bug with the save dialog

2009-09-02 Thread Chris Polk

Hi:
I just did the steps you explained, I don't see any probmes at all.
On Sep 2, 2009, at 9:59 PM, Justin Harford wrote:


 Hi all

 An interesting SL bug for you.

 Go into textedit.  Write a document.  Press cmd s to open the save
 dialog.  Then try to tab over to the place where you select the
 folder, assuming that that you have that checkbox to the right of the
 name field checked.  After you tab past the sidebar, voiceover starts
 uncontrollably stuttering,  Lol it's doing it right now, gosh
 voiceover I didn't think it was that cold!

 So basically my VO is completely messed up until I restart it… woof
 much better.  Anyway the save dialog, from this end, is pretty much no
 longer usable with the keyboard cursor.

 Let me know what you all find.

 Justin Harford
 


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