Re: mac compatible accessible digital recorder
Absolutely 100%! I wouldn't have suggested it otherwise. LOL! Smile. Seriously though, yes. It is. I was actually quite impressed the last I used it, so unless things have changed, which I very highly doubt... Chris. - Original Message - From: Joseph To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 5:58 PM Subject: Re: mac compatible accessible digital recorder Hello, Is this Sonority app VO accessible? On Jan 16, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Sonority -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: mac compatible accessible digital recorder
Hello, Is this Sonority app VO accessible? > On Jan 16, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > Sonority -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: mac compatible accessible digital recorder
Actually, Ray? Yes, you can. Not directly on the unit itself, but with the
Sonority software, you absolutely can do so accessibly.
Chris.
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From: Ray Foret Jr
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: mac compatible accessible digital recorder
No. That's one thing that cannot be done: but, in the strictest sense, this
is not really necessary because you can still manipulate recordings without
that. Still and all, it would be nice.
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built-in
Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
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On Jan 16, 2016, at 3:09 PM, Dan wrote:
Hello
Can a blind person set the time and date using the spoken menus on the ls14?
Dan
On Jan 16, 2016, at 12:57 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
Or the Olympus LS-14 which has spoken menus, can acomodate a standard
32GB HCSD card, has microphone and line in jacks, can overdub accessibly, can
also manipulate files accessibly right from the recorder ECT?
!
Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind
built-in
Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
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On Jan 16, 2016, at 7:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
wrote:
How about the Olympus DM-620, which even has spoken menus.
Chris.
- Original Message - From: "Christina C."
To: "'Jason White' via MacVisionaries"
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 1:56 PM
Subject: mac compatible accessible digital recorder
Hello,
Can I get some suggestions for digital recorders that are blind
friendly and mac compatible with voice Over. I find that I need to record
things since I can’t write them down. I want to be able to quickly record a
note. I find using my iPhone inconvenient cuz I don’t tend to carry it around
with me all day long in my pocket. I also find it takes so very many taps to
record a quick memo and then voiceOver gets in the recording or I then have to
do more tricks and tapping to turn speech off after focus is on the record
button. Plus I cannot record notes to myself when on a phone call and I just
need to record a phone number or a couple of little things while on the phone.
I’d appreciate any information even if it’s an iOS app that you have
found to require minimal tapping and such. I do think a mac compatible and
blind compatible digital recorder may suit me best though.
Thanks,
Christina
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Re: mac compatible accessible digital recorder
No. That's one thing that cannot be done: but, in the strictest sense, this is not really necessary because you can still manipulate recordings without that. Still and all, it would be nice. ! Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! > On Jan 16, 2016, at 3:09 PM, Dan wrote: > > Hello > Can a blind person set the time and date using the spoken menus on the ls14? > > > Dan > > On Jan 16, 2016, at 12:57 PM, Ray Foret Jr <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote: > >> Or the Olympus LS-14 which has spoken menus, can acomodate a standard 32GB >> HCSD card, has microphone and line in jacks, can overdub accessibly, can >> also manipulate files accessibly right from the recorder ECT? >> >> >> ! >> >> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind >> built-in >> >> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, >> >> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless >> iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! >> >>> On Jan 16, 2016, at 7:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>> mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> How about the Olympus DM-620, which even has spoken menus. >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Christina C." >> <mailto:blindmaclo...@gmail.com>> >>> To: "'Jason White' via MacVisionaries" >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 1:56 PM >>> Subject: mac compatible accessible digital recorder >>> >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Can I get some suggestions for digital recorders that are blind friendly >>> and mac compatible with voice Over. I find that I need to record things >>> since I can’t write them down. I want to be able to quickly record a note. >>> I find using my iPhone inconvenient cuz I don’t tend to carry it around >>> with me all day long in my pocket. I also find it takes so very many taps >>> to record a quick memo and then voiceOver gets in the recording or I then >>> have to do more tricks and tapping to turn speech off after focus is on the >>> record button. Plus I cannot record notes to myself when on a phone call >>> and I just need to record a phone number or a couple of little things while >>> on the phone. >>> >>> I’d appreciate any information even if it’s an iOS app that you have found >>> to require minimal tapping and such. I do think a mac compatible and blind >>> compatible digital recorder may suit me best though. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Christina >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >>> <https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the
Re: mac compatible accessible digital recorder
Hello Can a blind person set the time and date using the spoken menus on the ls14? Dan > On Jan 16, 2016, at 12:57 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > > Or the Olympus LS-14 which has spoken menus, can acomodate a standard 32GB > HCSD card, has microphone and line in jacks, can overdub accessibly, can also > manipulate files accessibly right from the recorder ECT? > > > ! > > Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in > > Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, > > Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless > iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! > >> On Jan 16, 2016, at 7:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >> wrote: >> >> How about the Olympus DM-620, which even has spoken menus. >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Christina C." >> To: "'Jason White' via MacVisionaries" >> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 1:56 PM >> Subject: mac compatible accessible digital recorder >> >> >> Hello, >> >> Can I get some suggestions for digital recorders that are blind friendly and >> mac compatible with voice Over. I find that I need to record things since I >> can’t write them down. I want to be able to quickly record a note. I find >> using my iPhone inconvenient cuz I don’t tend to carry it around with me all >> day long in my pocket. I also find it takes so very many taps to record a >> quick memo and then voiceOver gets in the recording or I then have to do >> more tricks and tapping to turn speech off after focus is on the record >> button. Plus I cannot record notes to myself when on a phone call and I just >> need to record a phone number or a couple of little things while on the >> phone. >> >> I’d appreciate any information even if it’s an iOS app that you have found >> to require minimal tapping and such. I do think a mac compatible and blind >> compatible digital recorder may suit me best though. >> >> Thanks, >> Christina >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor an
Re: mac compatible accessible digital recorder
Or the Olympus LS-14 which has spoken menus, can acomodate a standard 32GB HCSD card, has microphone and line in jacks, can overdub accessibly, can also manipulate files accessibly right from the recorder ECT? ! Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! > On Jan 16, 2016, at 7:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > How about the Olympus DM-620, which even has spoken menus. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Christina C." > To: "'Jason White' via MacVisionaries" > Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 1:56 PM > Subject: mac compatible accessible digital recorder > > > Hello, > > Can I get some suggestions for digital recorders that are blind friendly and > mac compatible with voice Over. I find that I need to record things since I > can’t write them down. I want to be able to quickly record a note. I find > using my iPhone inconvenient cuz I don’t tend to carry it around with me all > day long in my pocket. I also find it takes so very many taps to record a > quick memo and then voiceOver gets in the recording or I then have to do more > tricks and tapping to turn speech off after focus is on the record button. > Plus I cannot record notes to myself when on a phone call and I just need to > record a phone number or a couple of little things while on the phone. > > I’d appreciate any information even if it’s an iOS app that you have found to > require minimal tapping and such. I do think a mac compatible and blind > compatible digital recorder may suit me best though. > > Thanks, > Christina > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: mac compatible accessible digital recorder
How about the Olympus DM-620, which even has spoken menus. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Christina C." To: "'Jason White' via MacVisionaries" Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 1:56 PM Subject: mac compatible accessible digital recorder Hello, Can I get some suggestions for digital recorders that are blind friendly and mac compatible with voice Over. I find that I need to record things since I can’t write them down. I want to be able to quickly record a note. I find using my iPhone inconvenient cuz I don’t tend to carry it around with me all day long in my pocket. I also find it takes so very many taps to record a quick memo and then voiceOver gets in the recording or I then have to do more tricks and tapping to turn speech off after focus is on the record button. Plus I cannot record notes to myself when on a phone call and I just need to record a phone number or a couple of little things while on the phone. I’d appreciate any information even if it’s an iOS app that you have found to require minimal tapping and such. I do think a mac compatible and blind compatible digital recorder may suit me best though. Thanks, Christina -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: mac compatible accessible digital recorder
Hi. I have a mint condition Olympus ls100 professional recorder for sale which works very well with the mac. It comes up as an external hard drive so you can simply drag and drop things, rename etc. If you'd be interested in it, feel free to drop me an e mail at came...@cameronstrife.com It has a speech feature too which is a bit like a screen reader or rockbox so the recorder is very user friendly for the blind. It has tons of other features including built in stereo microphones, two external mic/line jacks, mini microphone jack, phantom power, limiter, etc. The controls are very tactile friendly as well... It can record 24 bit pcm/wav and the recording quality is fantastic for both speech and music/ambient sounds etc. It has four gb of internal flash storage and you can also use an sd card to add sixty four gb or more to that so you'd never have to worry about running out of space! It includes carrying case, shoulder strap, battery, USB cable, charger, documentation, and original box. Thanks, Cameron. https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail"; target="_blank">https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/logo-avast-v1.png"; style="width: 90px; height:33px;"/> This email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail"; target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;">www.avast.com On 1/15/16, Christina C. wrote: > Hello, > > Can I get some suggestions for digital recorders that are blind friendly and > mac compatible with voice Over. I find that I need to record things since I > can’t write them down. I want to be able to quickly record a note. I find > using my iPhone inconvenient cuz I don’t tend to carry it around with me all > day long in my pocket. I also find it takes so very many taps to record a > quick memo and then voiceOver gets in the recording or I then have to do > more tricks and tapping to turn speech off after focus is on the record > button. Plus I cannot record notes to myself when on a phone call and I just > need to record a phone number or a couple of little things while on the > phone. > > I’d appreciate any information even if it’s an iOS app that you have found > to require minimal tapping and such. I do think a mac compatible and blind > compatible digital recorder may suit me best though. > > Thanks, > Christina > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
mac compatible accessible digital recorder
Hello, Can I get some suggestions for digital recorders that are blind friendly and mac compatible with voice Over. I find that I need to record things since I can’t write them down. I want to be able to quickly record a note. I find using my iPhone inconvenient cuz I don’t tend to carry it around with me all day long in my pocket. I also find it takes so very many taps to record a quick memo and then voiceOver gets in the recording or I then have to do more tricks and tapping to turn speech off after focus is on the record button. Plus I cannot record notes to myself when on a phone call and I just need to record a phone number or a couple of little things while on the phone. I’d appreciate any information even if it’s an iOS app that you have found to require minimal tapping and such. I do think a mac compatible and blind compatible digital recorder may suit me best though. Thanks, Christina -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
