mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
I was at my desk, reading a book on my apex, when I heard my mac give the 
startup chime. It had restarted, just hours after the last time this happened 
(sometime around 10:00 this morning, and it's now about 7:30). I have repaired 
disk permissions, and there were no errors. I have reset my PRam. I have pulled 
out the power cord for the recommended time. As I said before, when I am in 
windows this does not happen, which tells me this is probably not a hardware 
problem with the Mini. If there's anything else I can try, please let me know. 
Yes, re-installing OSX may have to happen, but I'm hoping for a less drastic 
solution that does not involve wiping my drive before I resort to that step, 
especially as I have no one whom I would trust to help with a bootcamp/windows 
install at the moment. If I did have to reformat, I'd probably forego windows 
for a while, but I would want it back eventually simply to play audio games. 
Fusion or Virtualbox may be coming to a mac near me relatively soon... Anyway, 
thanks for your continued suggestions.


Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
You don't have to delete your windows partition.
I restore my quite often and don't have to erase my boot camp partition.

Chris Bruinenberg
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On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 I was at my desk, reading a book on my apex, when I heard my mac give the 
 startup chime. It had restarted, just hours after the last time this happened 
 (sometime around 10:00 this morning, and it's now about 7:30). I have 
 repaired disk permissions, and there were no errors. I have reset my PRam. I 
 have pulled out the power cord for the recommended time. As I said before, 
 when I am in windows this does not happen, which tells me this is probably 
 not a hardware problem with the Mini. If there's anything else I can try, 
 please let me know. Yes, re-installing OSX may have to happen, but I'm hoping 
 for a less drastic solution that does not involve wiping my drive before I 
 resort to that step, especially as I have no one whom I would trust to help 
 with a bootcamp/windows install at the moment. If I did have to reformat, I'd 
 probably forego windows for a while, but I would want it back eventually 
 simply to play audio games. Fusion or Virtualbox may be coming to a mac near 
 me relatively soon... Anyway, thanks for your continued suggestions.
 
 
 Have a great day,
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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Alex Hall
Good to know, that makes this easier. What happens to my user data, such as 
apps, app settings, music, and everything else in /applications or the ~/ 
folders? What I mean is, does this do some sort of in-place install, or does it 
format the osx partition and reinstall everything?
On Nov 5, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:

 You don't have to delete your windows partition.
 I restore my quite often and don't have to erase my boot camp partition.
 
 Chris Bruinenberg
 cbrui...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I was at my desk, reading a book on my apex, when I heard my mac give the 
 startup chime. It had restarted, just hours after the last time this 
 happened (sometime around 10:00 this morning, and it's now about 7:30). I 
 have repaired disk permissions, and there were no errors. I have reset my 
 PRam. I have pulled out the power cord for the recommended time. As I said 
 before, when I am in windows this does not happen, which tells me this is 
 probably not a hardware problem with the Mini. If there's anything else I 
 can try, please let me know. Yes, re-installing OSX may have to happen, but 
 I'm hoping for a less drastic solution that does not involve wiping my drive 
 before I resort to that step, especially as I have no one whom I would trust 
 to help with a bootcamp/windows install at the moment. If I did have to 
 reformat, I'd probably forego windows for a while, but I would want it back 
 eventually simply to play audio games. Fusion or Virtualbox may be coming to 
 a mac near me relatively soon... Anyway, thanks for your continued 
 suggestions.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
i believe you just install a clean copy and it will keep your files.
Unless you go to disk utility and ercace your macintosh hd.

Chris Bruinenberg
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On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:57 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good to know, that makes this easier. What happens to my user data, such as 
 apps, app settings, music, and everything else in /applications or the ~/ 
 folders? What I mean is, does this do some sort of in-place install, or does 
 it format the osx partition and reinstall everything?
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You don't have to delete your windows partition.
 I restore my quite often and don't have to erase my boot camp partition.
 
 Chris Bruinenberg
 cbrui...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I was at my desk, reading a book on my apex, when I heard my mac give the 
 startup chime. It had restarted, just hours after the last time this 
 happened (sometime around 10:00 this morning, and it's now about 7:30). I 
 have repaired disk permissions, and there were no errors. I have reset my 
 PRam. I have pulled out the power cord for the recommended time. As I said 
 before, when I am in windows this does not happen, which tells me this is 
 probably not a hardware problem with the Mini. If there's anything else I 
 can try, please let me know. Yes, re-installing OSX may have to happen, but 
 I'm hoping for a less drastic solution that does not involve wiping my 
 drive before I resort to that step, especially as I have no one whom I 
 would trust to help with a bootcamp/windows install at the moment. If I did 
 have to reformat, I'd probably forego windows for a while, but I would want 
 it back eventually simply to play audio games. Fusion or Virtualbox may be 
 coming to a mac near me relatively soon... Anyway, thanks for your 
 continued suggestions.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
 mehg...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
The only thing is: if you want to do a restore instead of a clean install, even 
of just the Mac side, you want to be sure that whatever is causing the problem 
just doesn't get reinstalled or set again. So if it were me, I would lean to 
erasing the Mac partition and clean installing instead of any kind of restore. 
Then you can maybe troubleshoot what causes the problem if it starts happening 
again.

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May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Nov 5, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good to know, that makes this easier. What happens to my user data, such as 
 apps, app settings, music, and everything else in /applications or the ~/ 
 folders? What I mean is, does this do some sort of in-place install, or does 
 it format the osx partition and reinstall everything?
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You don't have to delete your windows partition.
 I restore my quite often and don't have to erase my boot camp partition.
 
 Chris Bruinenberg
 cbrui...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I was at my desk, reading a book on my apex, when I heard my mac give the 
 startup chime. It had restarted, just hours after the last time this 
 happened (sometime around 10:00 this morning, and it's now about 7:30). I 
 have repaired disk permissions, and there were no errors. I have reset my 
 PRam. I have pulled out the power cord for the recommended time. As I said 
 before, when I am in windows this does not happen, which tells me this is 
 probably not a hardware problem with the Mini. If there's anything else I 
 can try, please let me know. Yes, re-installing OSX may have to happen, but 
 I'm hoping for a less drastic solution that does not involve wiping my 
 drive before I resort to that step, especially as I have no one whom I 
 would trust to help with a bootcamp/windows install at the moment. If I did 
 have to reformat, I'd probably forego windows for a while, but I would want 
 it back eventually simply to play audio games. Fusion or Virtualbox may be 
 coming to a mac near me relatively soon... Anyway, thanks for your 
 continued suggestions.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
 mehg...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
I agree.
I had a weird issue with mail and i did a clean install and it fixed it all.
I always would recognmend doing a clean install when doing a large update aka 
from lion to mountain lion.

Chris Bruinenberg
cbrui...@gmail.com



On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:

 The only thing is: if you want to do a restore instead of a clean install, 
 even of just the Mac side, you want to be sure that whatever is causing the 
 problem just doesn't get reinstalled or set again. So if it were me, I would 
 lean to erasing the Mac partition and clean installing instead of any kind of 
 restore. Then you can maybe troubleshoot what causes the problem if it starts 
 happening again.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Good to know, that makes this easier. What happens to my user data, such as 
 apps, app settings, music, and everything else in /applications or the ~/ 
 folders? What I mean is, does this do some sort of in-place install, or does 
 it format the osx partition and reinstall everything?
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You don't have to delete your windows partition.
 I restore my quite often and don't have to erase my boot camp partition.
 
 Chris Bruinenberg
 cbrui...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I was at my desk, reading a book on my apex, when I heard my mac give the 
 startup chime. It had restarted, just hours after the last time this 
 happened (sometime around 10:00 this morning, and it's now about 7:30). I 
 have repaired disk permissions, and there were no errors. I have reset my 
 PRam. I have pulled out the power cord for the recommended time. As I said 
 before, when I am in windows this does not happen, which tells me this is 
 probably not a hardware problem with the Mini. If there's anything else I 
 can try, please let me know. Yes, re-installing OSX may have to happen, 
 but I'm hoping for a less drastic solution that does not involve wiping my 
 drive before I resort to that step, especially as I have no one whom I 
 would trust to help with a bootcamp/windows install at the moment. If I 
 did have to reformat, I'd probably forego windows for a while, but I would 
 want it back eventually simply to play audio games. Fusion or Virtualbox 
 may be coming to a mac near me relatively soon... Anyway, thanks for your 
 continued suggestions.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Alex Hall
Good point. Once I get my Carbonite transferred over to the mac I'll feel 
better about all this. As you both said, a clean install makes the most sense 
for troubleshooting purposes, so, if it comes to that, I'll do it. Now I'm 
waiting for ML to download from the app store, and am searching for an 8gb 
drive of some kind. I wonder, though, Once I make this bootable drive, how do I 
work it? The articles I've found seem to indicate that one can boot it or 
install the os from it, and I want to make sure I do the former and not the 
latter.
On Nov 5, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree.
 I had a weird issue with mail and i did a clean install and it fixed it all.
 I always would recognmend doing a clean install when doing a large update aka 
 from lion to mountain lion.
 
 Chris Bruinenberg
 cbrui...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The only thing is: if you want to do a restore instead of a clean install, 
 even of just the Mac side, you want to be sure that whatever is causing the 
 problem just doesn't get reinstalled or set again. So if it were me, I would 
 lean to erasing the Mac partition and clean installing instead of any kind 
 of restore. Then you can maybe troubleshoot what causes the problem if it 
 starts happening again.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Good to know, that makes this easier. What happens to my user data, such as 
 apps, app settings, music, and everything else in /applications or the ~/ 
 folders? What I mean is, does this do some sort of in-place install, or 
 does it format the osx partition and reinstall everything?
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You don't have to delete your windows partition.
 I restore my quite often and don't have to erase my boot camp partition.
 
 Chris Bruinenberg
 cbrui...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I was at my desk, reading a book on my apex, when I heard my mac give the 
 startup chime. It had restarted, just hours after the last time this 
 happened (sometime around 10:00 this morning, and it's now about 7:30). I 
 have repaired disk permissions, and there were no errors. I have reset my 
 PRam. I have pulled out the power cord for the recommended time. As I 
 said before, when I am in windows this does not happen, which tells me 
 this is probably not a hardware problem with the Mini. If there's 
 anything else I can try, please let me know. Yes, re-installing OSX may 
 have to happen, but I'm hoping for a less drastic solution that does not 
 involve wiping my drive before I resort to that step, especially as I 
 have no one whom I would trust to help with a bootcamp/windows install at 
 the moment. If I did have to reformat, I'd probably forego windows for a 
 while, but I would want it back eventually simply to play audio games. 
 Fusion or Virtualbox may be coming to a mac near me relatively soon... 
 Anyway, thanks for your continued suggestions.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
I just made one with super dooper.
It was the easiest for me.

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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Alex Hall
I downloaded an app called Lion Disk Maker but have not run it yet as it 
requires the ML installer and a suitable drive. Is this Super Duper program 
free or paid?
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 I just made one with super dooper.
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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
it is free.

Chris Bruinenberg
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On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I downloaded an app called Lion Disk Maker but have not run it yet as it 
 requires the ML installer and a suitable drive. Is this Super Duper program 
 free or paid?
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 8:12 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just made one with super dooper.
 It was the easiest for me.
 
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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Alex Hall
Okay, I'll check it out. Thanks.
On Nov 5, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:

 it is free.
 
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 On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I downloaded an app called Lion Disk Maker but have not run it yet as it 
 requires the ML installer and a suitable drive. Is this Super Duper program 
 free or paid?
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 8:12 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just made one with super dooper.
 It was the easiest for me.
 
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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
Your welcome.

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On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Okay, I'll check it out. Thanks.
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 it is free.
 
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 On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I downloaded an app called Lion Disk Maker but have not run it yet as it 
 requires the ML installer and a suitable drive. Is this Super Duper program 
 free or paid?
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 8:12 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just made one with super dooper.
 It was the easiest for me.
 
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