Re: mac restarted again...

2012-11-11 Thread Steve Holmes
Just curious, did you get your reboot problem solved yet?  This sounds like an 
interesting problem.  Never had to reset PRAMs yet but wonder.

On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Okay, I'll put ml on a thumb drive and see what happens. I've never done this 
 before, so it might take me a while, but google and I will get it figured out.
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 7:54 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 It doesn't seem like a hardware issue to me if you had Windows running 
 without any similar issues.  Therefore, I believe that taking it to an Apple 
 Store would be a waste financially.  My nearest Apple Store is about a 5 
 hour drive so its not usually in the cards for us either.
 
 It does, then, sound like a software issue.  I do suggest, though, for 
 troubleshooting purposes that you install the OS onto an external HD.  This 
 problem seems to happen quite often so maybe if you let the Mini run off the 
 external OS all night and check on it in the morning to see if it has 
 restarted.  If you leave it logged in when you go to bed, and have it set to 
 not log in automatically, then it will be sitting at the login screen if it 
 restarted itself overnight.
 
 Give that a try then we can go from there.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-11-05, at 10:41 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, I did that, though I waited one chime too many. Will that matter? If 
 not, let's hope this solves everything... I'll keep you posted. Thanks.
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote:
 
 Keep reparing your permissions until it shows no errors.
 You restart your ram by holding down: p, r, command and option right after 
 you hear the start up chime. Keep holding those keys until the chime has 
 heard the third time, and release the keys and it will boot up.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
 Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.29 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com:
 
 I did repair permissions, and there were only ten or so errors. I am not 
 sure how to check my power supply, but windows never rebooted 
 mysteriously so I don't think it is that. Remind me how to reset this 
 PRam again? Thanks.
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Have you resetted your PR ram? Have you tried to repair your disc  and 
 permissions? Have you checked your powersupply? Sounds more like your 
 powersupply is damaged.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
 Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.15 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi all,
 I have been in windows since Thursday. I booted back into osx yesterday 
 and things were fine. I left this morning for a couple hours and came 
 back to find my mac had, once again, restarted itself. I did the power 
 cord trick suggested last week and had no problems until now, though, 
 as I said, I was in windows for a few days. This isn't looking good... 
 To remind you all, it's a 2011 Mini with 2gb ram in a cool room. I have 
 no Apple Care, and the nearest Apple store is about two and a half 
 hours away.
 
 
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Re: mac restarted again...

2012-11-11 Thread Alex Hall
Well, it restarted after I reset the PRam. However, it hasn't restarted since 
then, so I'm not sure. I'll give it a week or so and then see what happens.
On Nov 11, 2012, at 9:46 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just curious, did you get your reboot problem solved yet?  This sounds like 
 an interesting problem.  Never had to reset PRAMs yet but wonder.
 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Okay, I'll put ml on a thumb drive and see what happens. I've never done 
 this before, so it might take me a while, but google and I will get it 
 figured out.
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 7:54 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 It doesn't seem like a hardware issue to me if you had Windows running 
 without any similar issues.  Therefore, I believe that taking it to an 
 Apple Store would be a waste financially.  My nearest Apple Store is about 
 a 5 hour drive so its not usually in the cards for us either.
 
 It does, then, sound like a software issue.  I do suggest, though, for 
 troubleshooting purposes that you install the OS onto an external HD.  This 
 problem seems to happen quite often so maybe if you let the Mini run off 
 the external OS all night and check on it in the morning to see if it has 
 restarted.  If you leave it logged in when you go to bed, and have it set 
 to not log in automatically, then it will be sitting at the login screen if 
 it restarted itself overnight.
 
 Give that a try then we can go from there.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-11-05, at 10:41 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, I did that, though I waited one chime too many. Will that matter? If 
 not, let's hope this solves everything... I'll keep you posted. Thanks.
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote:
 
 Keep reparing your permissions until it shows no errors.
 You restart your ram by holding down: p, r, command and option right 
 after you hear the start up chime. Keep holding those keys until the 
 chime has heard the third time, and release the keys and it will boot up.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
 Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.29 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com:
 
 I did repair permissions, and there were only ten or so errors. I am not 
 sure how to check my power supply, but windows never rebooted 
 mysteriously so I don't think it is that. Remind me how to reset this 
 PRam again? Thanks.
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk 
 wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Have you resetted your PR ram? Have you tried to repair your disc  and 
 permissions? Have you checked your powersupply? Sounds more like your 
 powersupply is damaged.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
 Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.15 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi all,
 I have been in windows since Thursday. I booted back into osx 
 yesterday and things were fine. I left this morning for a couple hours 
 and came back to find my mac had, once again, restarted itself. I did 
 the power cord trick suggested last week and had no problems until 
 now, though, as I said, I was in windows for a few days. This isn't 
 looking good... To remind you all, it's a 2011 Mini with 2gb ram in a 
 cool room. I have no Apple Care, and the nearest Apple store is about 
 two and a half hours away.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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mac restarted again...

2012-11-05 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
I have been in windows since Thursday. I booted back into osx yesterday and 
things were fine. I left this morning for a couple hours and came back to find 
my mac had, once again, restarted itself. I did the power cord trick suggested 
last week and had no problems until now, though, as I said, I was in windows 
for a few days. This isn't looking good... To remind you all, it's a 2011 Mini 
with 2gb ram in a cool room. I have no Apple Care, and the nearest Apple store 
is about two and a half hours away.


Have a great day,
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Re: mac restarted again...

2012-11-05 Thread Søren Jensen
Hi.
Have you resetted your PR ram? Have you tried to repair your disc  and 
permissions? Have you checked your powersupply? Sounds more like your 
powersupply is damaged.
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail  MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.15 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com:

 Hi all,
 I have been in windows since Thursday. I booted back into osx yesterday and 
 things were fine. I left this morning for a couple hours and came back to 
 find my mac had, once again, restarted itself. I did the power cord trick 
 suggested last week and had no problems until now, though, as I said, I was 
 in windows for a few days. This isn't looking good... To remind you all, it's 
 a 2011 Mini with 2gb ram in a cool room. I have no Apple Care, and the 
 nearest Apple store is about two and a half hours away.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
 mehg...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: mac restarted again...

2012-11-05 Thread Alex Hall
I did repair permissions, and there were only ten or so errors. I am not sure 
how to check my power supply, but windows never rebooted mysteriously so I 
don't think it is that. Remind me how to reset this PRam again? Thanks.
On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote:

 Hi.
 Have you resetted your PR ram? Have you tried to repair your disc  and 
 permissions? Have you checked your powersupply? Sounds more like your 
 powersupply is damaged.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
 Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.15 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi all,
 I have been in windows since Thursday. I booted back into osx yesterday and 
 things were fine. I left this morning for a couple hours and came back to 
 find my mac had, once again, restarted itself. I did the power cord trick 
 suggested last week and had no problems until now, though, as I said, I was 
 in windows for a few days. This isn't looking good... To remind you all, 
 it's a 2011 Mini with 2gb ram in a cool room. I have no Apple Care, and the 
 nearest Apple store is about two and a half hours away.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: mac restarted again...

2012-11-05 Thread Søren Jensen
Keep reparing your permissions until it shows no errors.
You restart your ram by holding down: p, r, command and option right after you 
hear the start up chime. Keep holding those keys until the chime has heard the 
third time, and release the keys and it will boot up.
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail  MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.29 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com:

 I did repair permissions, and there were only ten or so errors. I am not sure 
 how to check my power supply, but windows never rebooted mysteriously so I 
 don't think it is that. Remind me how to reset this PRam again? Thanks.
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Have you resetted your PR ram? Have you tried to repair your disc  and 
 permissions? Have you checked your powersupply? Sounds more like your 
 powersupply is damaged.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
 Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.15 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi all,
 I have been in windows since Thursday. I booted back into osx yesterday and 
 things were fine. I left this morning for a couple hours and came back to 
 find my mac had, once again, restarted itself. I did the power cord trick 
 suggested last week and had no problems until now, though, as I said, I was 
 in windows for a few days. This isn't looking good... To remind you all, 
 it's a 2011 Mini with 2gb ram in a cool room. I have no Apple Care, and the 
 nearest Apple store is about two and a half hours away.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: mac restarted again...

2012-11-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Well, if Windows doesn't reboot and still stayed up and useable, one would 
think it would be a software or setting problem on your Mac side rather than a 
power supply problem. But I seem to remember that you've checked all your 
settings and maybe you reinstalled the Mac side too but I don't remember that 
for sure. The only thing I can think of, short of taking it somewhere, would be 
to completely reinstall everything - Mac, Windows, etc. and reinstall it all. 
But I know that's not a welcome suggestion given that one still has to have 
help to install Windows from a sighted person. Is there anything that you use 
or have plugged in when using the Mac side that you don't for the Windows side? 
Of course, it could be something on your logic board; I don't know if that 
would also affect both sides or not.

-- 
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May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Nov 5, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I did repair permissions, and there were only ten or so errors. I am not sure 
 how to check my power supply, but windows never rebooted mysteriously so I 
 don't think it is that. Remind me how to reset this PRam again? Thanks.
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Have you resetted your PR ram? Have you tried to repair your disc  and 
 permissions? Have you checked your powersupply? Sounds more like your 
 powersupply is damaged.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
 Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.15 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi all,
 I have been in windows since Thursday. I booted back into osx yesterday and 
 things were fine. I left this morning for a couple hours and came back to 
 find my mac had, once again, restarted itself. I did the power cord trick 
 suggested last week and had no problems until now, though, as I said, I was 
 in windows for a few days. This isn't looking good... To remind you all, 
 it's a 2011 Mini with 2gb ram in a cool room. I have no Apple Care, and the 
 nearest Apple store is about two and a half hours away.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: mac restarted again...

2012-11-05 Thread Alex Hall
I'm about to reset the PRam, so we'll see if that helps. As to your questions, 
I have not reinstalled anything, and there is nothing different (in hardware) 
when I run windows. Besides, I have it set to not come on after a power 
failure, so if it were a power problem it would just shut down and not restart 
with a problem report. Of course I'd rather not reinstall everything 
(*shudders*) but if the problem persists I may have to. At least it wouldn't 
cost me anything.
On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, if Windows doesn't reboot and still stayed up and useable, one would 
 think it would be a software or setting problem on your Mac side rather than 
 a power supply problem. But I seem to remember that you've checked all your 
 settings and maybe you reinstalled the Mac side too but I don't remember that 
 for sure. The only thing I can think of, short of taking it somewhere, would 
 be to completely reinstall everything - Mac, Windows, etc. and reinstall it 
 all. But I know that's not a welcome suggestion given that one still has to 
 have help to install Windows from a sighted person. Is there anything that 
 you use or have plugged in when using the Mac side that you don't for the 
 Windows side? Of course, it could be something on your logic board; I don't 
 know if that would also affect both sides or not.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I did repair permissions, and there were only ten or so errors. I am not 
 sure how to check my power supply, but windows never rebooted mysteriously 
 so I don't think it is that. Remind me how to reset this PRam again? Thanks.
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Have you resetted your PR ram? Have you tried to repair your disc  and 
 permissions? Have you checked your powersupply? Sounds more like your 
 powersupply is damaged.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
 Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.15 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi all,
 I have been in windows since Thursday. I booted back into osx yesterday 
 and things were fine. I left this morning for a couple hours and came back 
 to find my mac had, once again, restarted itself. I did the power cord 
 trick suggested last week and had no problems until now, though, as I 
 said, I was in windows for a few days. This isn't looking good... To 
 remind you all, it's a 2011 Mini with 2gb ram in a cool room. I have no 
 Apple Care, and the nearest Apple store is about two and a half hours away.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: mac restarted again...

2012-11-05 Thread Alex Hall
Well, I did that, though I waited one chime too many. Will that matter? If not, 
let's hope this solves everything... I'll keep you posted. Thanks.
On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote:

 Keep reparing your permissions until it shows no errors.
 You restart your ram by holding down: p, r, command and option right after 
 you hear the start up chime. Keep holding those keys until the chime has 
 heard the third time, and release the keys and it will boot up.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
 Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.29 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com:
 
 I did repair permissions, and there were only ten or so errors. I am not 
 sure how to check my power supply, but windows never rebooted mysteriously 
 so I don't think it is that. Remind me how to reset this PRam again? Thanks.
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Have you resetted your PR ram? Have you tried to repair your disc  and 
 permissions? Have you checked your powersupply? Sounds more like your 
 powersupply is damaged.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
 Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.15 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi all,
 I have been in windows since Thursday. I booted back into osx yesterday 
 and things were fine. I left this morning for a couple hours and came back 
 to find my mac had, once again, restarted itself. I did the power cord 
 trick suggested last week and had no problems until now, though, as I 
 said, I was in windows for a few days. This isn't looking good... To 
 remind you all, it's a 2011 Mini with 2gb ram in a cool room. I have no 
 Apple Care, and the nearest Apple store is about two and a half hours away.
 
 
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mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
I was at my desk, reading a book on my apex, when I heard my mac give the 
startup chime. It had restarted, just hours after the last time this happened 
(sometime around 10:00 this morning, and it's now about 7:30). I have repaired 
disk permissions, and there were no errors. I have reset my PRam. I have pulled 
out the power cord for the recommended time. As I said before, when I am in 
windows this does not happen, which tells me this is probably not a hardware 
problem with the Mini. If there's anything else I can try, please let me know. 
Yes, re-installing OSX may have to happen, but I'm hoping for a less drastic 
solution that does not involve wiping my drive before I resort to that step, 
especially as I have no one whom I would trust to help with a bootcamp/windows 
install at the moment. If I did have to reformat, I'd probably forego windows 
for a while, but I would want it back eventually simply to play audio games. 
Fusion or Virtualbox may be coming to a mac near me relatively soon... Anyway, 
thanks for your continued suggestions.


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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
You don't have to delete your windows partition.
I restore my quite often and don't have to erase my boot camp partition.

Chris Bruinenberg
cbrui...@gmail.com



On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 I was at my desk, reading a book on my apex, when I heard my mac give the 
 startup chime. It had restarted, just hours after the last time this happened 
 (sometime around 10:00 this morning, and it's now about 7:30). I have 
 repaired disk permissions, and there were no errors. I have reset my PRam. I 
 have pulled out the power cord for the recommended time. As I said before, 
 when I am in windows this does not happen, which tells me this is probably 
 not a hardware problem with the Mini. If there's anything else I can try, 
 please let me know. Yes, re-installing OSX may have to happen, but I'm hoping 
 for a less drastic solution that does not involve wiping my drive before I 
 resort to that step, especially as I have no one whom I would trust to help 
 with a bootcamp/windows install at the moment. If I did have to reformat, I'd 
 probably forego windows for a while, but I would want it back eventually 
 simply to play audio games. Fusion or Virtualbox may be coming to a mac near 
 me relatively soon... Anyway, thanks for your continued suggestions.
 
 
 Have a great day,
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Re: mac restarted again...

2012-11-05 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

It doesn't seem like a hardware issue to me if you had Windows running without 
any similar issues.  Therefore, I believe that taking it to an Apple Store 
would be a waste financially.  My nearest Apple Store is about a 5 hour drive 
so its not usually in the cards for us either.

It does, then, sound like a software issue.  I do suggest, though, for 
troubleshooting purposes that you install the OS onto an external HD.  This 
problem seems to happen quite often so maybe if you let the Mini run off the 
external OS all night and check on it in the morning to see if it has 
restarted.  If you leave it logged in when you go to bed, and have it set to 
not log in automatically, then it will be sitting at the login screen if it 
restarted itself overnight.

Give that a try then we can go from there.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-11-05, at 10:41 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I did that, though I waited one chime too many. Will that matter? If 
 not, let's hope this solves everything... I'll keep you posted. Thanks.
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote:
 
 Keep reparing your permissions until it shows no errors.
 You restart your ram by holding down: p, r, command and option right after 
 you hear the start up chime. Keep holding those keys until the chime has 
 heard the third time, and release the keys and it will boot up.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
 Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.29 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com:
 
 I did repair permissions, and there were only ten or so errors. I am not 
 sure how to check my power supply, but windows never rebooted mysteriously 
 so I don't think it is that. Remind me how to reset this PRam again? Thanks.
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Have you resetted your PR ram? Have you tried to repair your disc  and 
 permissions? Have you checked your powersupply? Sounds more like your 
 powersupply is damaged.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
 Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.15 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi all,
 I have been in windows since Thursday. I booted back into osx yesterday 
 and things were fine. I left this morning for a couple hours and came 
 back to find my mac had, once again, restarted itself. I did the power 
 cord trick suggested last week and had no problems until now, though, as 
 I said, I was in windows for a few days. This isn't looking good... To 
 remind you all, it's a 2011 Mini with 2gb ram in a cool room. I have no 
 Apple Care, and the nearest Apple store is about two and a half hours 
 away.
 
 
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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Alex Hall
Good to know, that makes this easier. What happens to my user data, such as 
apps, app settings, music, and everything else in /applications or the ~/ 
folders? What I mean is, does this do some sort of in-place install, or does it 
format the osx partition and reinstall everything?
On Nov 5, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:

 You don't have to delete your windows partition.
 I restore my quite often and don't have to erase my boot camp partition.
 
 Chris Bruinenberg
 cbrui...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I was at my desk, reading a book on my apex, when I heard my mac give the 
 startup chime. It had restarted, just hours after the last time this 
 happened (sometime around 10:00 this morning, and it's now about 7:30). I 
 have repaired disk permissions, and there were no errors. I have reset my 
 PRam. I have pulled out the power cord for the recommended time. As I said 
 before, when I am in windows this does not happen, which tells me this is 
 probably not a hardware problem with the Mini. If there's anything else I 
 can try, please let me know. Yes, re-installing OSX may have to happen, but 
 I'm hoping for a less drastic solution that does not involve wiping my drive 
 before I resort to that step, especially as I have no one whom I would trust 
 to help with a bootcamp/windows install at the moment. If I did have to 
 reformat, I'd probably forego windows for a while, but I would want it back 
 eventually simply to play audio games. Fusion or Virtualbox may be coming to 
 a mac near me relatively soon... Anyway, thanks for your continued 
 suggestions.
 
 
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Re: mac restarted again...

2012-11-05 Thread Alex Hall
Okay, I'll put ml on a thumb drive and see what happens. I've never done this 
before, so it might take me a while, but google and I will get it figured out.
On Nov 5, 2012, at 7:54 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 It doesn't seem like a hardware issue to me if you had Windows running 
 without any similar issues.  Therefore, I believe that taking it to an Apple 
 Store would be a waste financially.  My nearest Apple Store is about a 5 hour 
 drive so its not usually in the cards for us either.
 
 It does, then, sound like a software issue.  I do suggest, though, for 
 troubleshooting purposes that you install the OS onto an external HD.  This 
 problem seems to happen quite often so maybe if you let the Mini run off the 
 external OS all night and check on it in the morning to see if it has 
 restarted.  If you leave it logged in when you go to bed, and have it set to 
 not log in automatically, then it will be sitting at the login screen if it 
 restarted itself overnight.
 
 Give that a try then we can go from there.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-11-05, at 10:41 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, I did that, though I waited one chime too many. Will that matter? If 
 not, let's hope this solves everything... I'll keep you posted. Thanks.
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote:
 
 Keep reparing your permissions until it shows no errors.
 You restart your ram by holding down: p, r, command and option right after 
 you hear the start up chime. Keep holding those keys until the chime has 
 heard the third time, and release the keys and it will boot up.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
 Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.29 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com:
 
 I did repair permissions, and there were only ten or so errors. I am not 
 sure how to check my power supply, but windows never rebooted mysteriously 
 so I don't think it is that. Remind me how to reset this PRam again? 
 Thanks.
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Have you resetted your PR ram? Have you tried to repair your disc  and 
 permissions? Have you checked your powersupply? Sounds more like your 
 powersupply is damaged.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
 Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.15 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi all,
 I have been in windows since Thursday. I booted back into osx yesterday 
 and things were fine. I left this morning for a couple hours and came 
 back to find my mac had, once again, restarted itself. I did the power 
 cord trick suggested last week and had no problems until now, though, as 
 I said, I was in windows for a few days. This isn't looking good... To 
 remind you all, it's a 2011 Mini with 2gb ram in a cool room. I have no 
 Apple Care, and the nearest Apple store is about two and a half hours 
 away.
 
 
 Have a great day,
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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
i believe you just install a clean copy and it will keep your files.
Unless you go to disk utility and ercace your macintosh hd.

Chris Bruinenberg
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On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:57 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good to know, that makes this easier. What happens to my user data, such as 
 apps, app settings, music, and everything else in /applications or the ~/ 
 folders? What I mean is, does this do some sort of in-place install, or does 
 it format the osx partition and reinstall everything?
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You don't have to delete your windows partition.
 I restore my quite often and don't have to erase my boot camp partition.
 
 Chris Bruinenberg
 cbrui...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I was at my desk, reading a book on my apex, when I heard my mac give the 
 startup chime. It had restarted, just hours after the last time this 
 happened (sometime around 10:00 this morning, and it's now about 7:30). I 
 have repaired disk permissions, and there were no errors. I have reset my 
 PRam. I have pulled out the power cord for the recommended time. As I said 
 before, when I am in windows this does not happen, which tells me this is 
 probably not a hardware problem with the Mini. If there's anything else I 
 can try, please let me know. Yes, re-installing OSX may have to happen, but 
 I'm hoping for a less drastic solution that does not involve wiping my 
 drive before I resort to that step, especially as I have no one whom I 
 would trust to help with a bootcamp/windows install at the moment. If I did 
 have to reformat, I'd probably forego windows for a while, but I would want 
 it back eventually simply to play audio games. Fusion or Virtualbox may be 
 coming to a mac near me relatively soon... Anyway, thanks for your 
 continued suggestions.
 
 
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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
The only thing is: if you want to do a restore instead of a clean install, even 
of just the Mac side, you want to be sure that whatever is causing the problem 
just doesn't get reinstalled or set again. So if it were me, I would lean to 
erasing the Mac partition and clean installing instead of any kind of restore. 
Then you can maybe troubleshoot what causes the problem if it starts happening 
again.

-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Nov 5, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good to know, that makes this easier. What happens to my user data, such as 
 apps, app settings, music, and everything else in /applications or the ~/ 
 folders? What I mean is, does this do some sort of in-place install, or does 
 it format the osx partition and reinstall everything?
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You don't have to delete your windows partition.
 I restore my quite often and don't have to erase my boot camp partition.
 
 Chris Bruinenberg
 cbrui...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I was at my desk, reading a book on my apex, when I heard my mac give the 
 startup chime. It had restarted, just hours after the last time this 
 happened (sometime around 10:00 this morning, and it's now about 7:30). I 
 have repaired disk permissions, and there were no errors. I have reset my 
 PRam. I have pulled out the power cord for the recommended time. As I said 
 before, when I am in windows this does not happen, which tells me this is 
 probably not a hardware problem with the Mini. If there's anything else I 
 can try, please let me know. Yes, re-installing OSX may have to happen, but 
 I'm hoping for a less drastic solution that does not involve wiping my 
 drive before I resort to that step, especially as I have no one whom I 
 would trust to help with a bootcamp/windows install at the moment. If I did 
 have to reformat, I'd probably forego windows for a while, but I would want 
 it back eventually simply to play audio games. Fusion or Virtualbox may be 
 coming to a mac near me relatively soon... Anyway, thanks for your 
 continued suggestions.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
I agree.
I had a weird issue with mail and i did a clean install and it fixed it all.
I always would recognmend doing a clean install when doing a large update aka 
from lion to mountain lion.

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On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:

 The only thing is: if you want to do a restore instead of a clean install, 
 even of just the Mac side, you want to be sure that whatever is causing the 
 problem just doesn't get reinstalled or set again. So if it were me, I would 
 lean to erasing the Mac partition and clean installing instead of any kind of 
 restore. Then you can maybe troubleshoot what causes the problem if it starts 
 happening again.
 
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 May the words of my mouth
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 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Good to know, that makes this easier. What happens to my user data, such as 
 apps, app settings, music, and everything else in /applications or the ~/ 
 folders? What I mean is, does this do some sort of in-place install, or does 
 it format the osx partition and reinstall everything?
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You don't have to delete your windows partition.
 I restore my quite often and don't have to erase my boot camp partition.
 
 Chris Bruinenberg
 cbrui...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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 Hi all,
 I was at my desk, reading a book on my apex, when I heard my mac give the 
 startup chime. It had restarted, just hours after the last time this 
 happened (sometime around 10:00 this morning, and it's now about 7:30). I 
 have repaired disk permissions, and there were no errors. I have reset my 
 PRam. I have pulled out the power cord for the recommended time. As I said 
 before, when I am in windows this does not happen, which tells me this is 
 probably not a hardware problem with the Mini. If there's anything else I 
 can try, please let me know. Yes, re-installing OSX may have to happen, 
 but I'm hoping for a less drastic solution that does not involve wiping my 
 drive before I resort to that step, especially as I have no one whom I 
 would trust to help with a bootcamp/windows install at the moment. If I 
 did have to reformat, I'd probably forego windows for a while, but I would 
 want it back eventually simply to play audio games. Fusion or Virtualbox 
 may be coming to a mac near me relatively soon... Anyway, thanks for your 
 continued suggestions.
 
 
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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Alex Hall
Good point. Once I get my Carbonite transferred over to the mac I'll feel 
better about all this. As you both said, a clean install makes the most sense 
for troubleshooting purposes, so, if it comes to that, I'll do it. Now I'm 
waiting for ML to download from the app store, and am searching for an 8gb 
drive of some kind. I wonder, though, Once I make this bootable drive, how do I 
work it? The articles I've found seem to indicate that one can boot it or 
install the os from it, and I want to make sure I do the former and not the 
latter.
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 I agree.
 I had a weird issue with mail and i did a clean install and it fixed it all.
 I always would recognmend doing a clean install when doing a large update aka 
 from lion to mountain lion.
 
 Chris Bruinenberg
 cbrui...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The only thing is: if you want to do a restore instead of a clean install, 
 even of just the Mac side, you want to be sure that whatever is causing the 
 problem just doesn't get reinstalled or set again. So if it were me, I would 
 lean to erasing the Mac partition and clean installing instead of any kind 
 of restore. Then you can maybe troubleshoot what causes the problem if it 
 starts happening again.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Good to know, that makes this easier. What happens to my user data, such as 
 apps, app settings, music, and everything else in /applications or the ~/ 
 folders? What I mean is, does this do some sort of in-place install, or 
 does it format the osx partition and reinstall everything?
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You don't have to delete your windows partition.
 I restore my quite often and don't have to erase my boot camp partition.
 
 Chris Bruinenberg
 cbrui...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I was at my desk, reading a book on my apex, when I heard my mac give the 
 startup chime. It had restarted, just hours after the last time this 
 happened (sometime around 10:00 this morning, and it's now about 7:30). I 
 have repaired disk permissions, and there were no errors. I have reset my 
 PRam. I have pulled out the power cord for the recommended time. As I 
 said before, when I am in windows this does not happen, which tells me 
 this is probably not a hardware problem with the Mini. If there's 
 anything else I can try, please let me know. Yes, re-installing OSX may 
 have to happen, but I'm hoping for a less drastic solution that does not 
 involve wiping my drive before I resort to that step, especially as I 
 have no one whom I would trust to help with a bootcamp/windows install at 
 the moment. If I did have to reformat, I'd probably forego windows for a 
 while, but I would want it back eventually simply to play audio games. 
 Fusion or Virtualbox may be coming to a mac near me relatively soon... 
 Anyway, thanks for your continued suggestions.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
I just made one with super dooper.
It was the easiest for me.

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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Alex Hall
I downloaded an app called Lion Disk Maker but have not run it yet as it 
requires the ML installer and a suitable drive. Is this Super Duper program 
free or paid?
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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
it is free.

Chris Bruinenberg
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On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I downloaded an app called Lion Disk Maker but have not run it yet as it 
 requires the ML installer and a suitable drive. Is this Super Duper program 
 free or paid?
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 8:12 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
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 It was the easiest for me.
 
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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Alex Hall
Okay, I'll check it out. Thanks.
On Nov 5, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:

 it is free.
 
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 cbrui...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I downloaded an app called Lion Disk Maker but have not run it yet as it 
 requires the ML installer and a suitable drive. Is this Super Duper program 
 free or paid?
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 8:12 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just made one with super dooper.
 It was the easiest for me.
 
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Re: mac restarted again, despite all the fixes

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
Your welcome.

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On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Okay, I'll check it out. Thanks.
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 it is free.
 
 Chris Bruinenberg
 cbrui...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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 I downloaded an app called Lion Disk Maker but have not run it yet as it 
 requires the ML installer and a suitable drive. Is this Super Duper program 
 free or paid?
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 8:12 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
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 It was the easiest for me.
 
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