major issue with Big Sur install
I went ahead and created a Big Sur install on a USB flash drive. After booting from it, I discovered a major issue with Voiceover. When installing a new major operating system, I prefer to erase my drive and install from scratch. Wehn trying to access the list of drives in disk utility, voiceover crashes making this task impossible at this point. Wondering if anyone else can reproduce this. I know there have been several other issues with using Voiceover in Big Sur recovery as well. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/5A9AD31C-0978-4DE9-B95E-9AD7A81D2CD7%40charter.net.
Re: major issue with Big Sur install
Hi Mike. I just did a start upgrade. I can give this a look at some point, have you contacted apple accessibility about this? Thanks. Matthew > On Nov 21, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > I went ahead and created a Big Sur install on a USB flash drive. After > booting from it, I discovered a major issue with Voiceover. When installing a > new major operating system, I prefer to erase my drive and install from > scratch. Wehn trying to access the list of drives in disk utility, voiceover > crashes making this task impossible at this point. Wondering if anyone else > can reproduce this. I know there have been several other issues with using > Voiceover in Big Sur recovery as well. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/5A9AD31C-0978-4DE9-B95E-9AD7A81D2CD7%40charter.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/872A9697-4A00-46A5-A95A-FDDC30ACB9F1%40outlook.com.
Re: major issue with Big Sur install
Hi, I have some questions, one how did you create the USB install? There are several machines here that need the upgrade. Two I have not found the issues that people are talking about on my machine. I'm wondering if it really comes down to how current in the hardware? This is a 2020 MacBook Pro. So I'm wondering if that really is the defining issue with installing, And or upgrading to Mac OS Big Sur. Sincerely Maurice Mines. > On Nov 21, 2020, at 17:30, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > I went ahead and created a Big Sur install on a USB flash drive. After > booting from it, I discovered a major issue with Voiceover. When installing a > new major operating system, I prefer to erase my drive and install from > scratch. Wehn trying to access the list of drives in disk utility, voiceover > crashes making this task impossible at this point. Wondering if anyone else > can reproduce this. I know there have been several other issues with using > Voiceover in Big Sur recovery as well. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/5A9AD31C-0978-4DE9-B95E-9AD7A81D2CD7%40charter.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2F46C7CC-65A6-4586-B5D4-69FDFAEB102E%40maurice-amines.com.
Re: major issue with Big Sur install
Not yet, it happened on my macbook air, I want to test it on one of my mac minis, you could probably test it by booting your mac in to recovery, I think that's the same thing that is used when creating an install on an external drive. > On Nov 21, 2020, at 12:29 PM, matthew dyer > wrote: > > Hi Mike. > > I just did a start upgrade. I can give this a look at some point, have you > contacted apple accessibility about this? Thanks. > > Matthew > > > >> On Nov 21, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >> I went ahead and created a Big Sur install on a USB flash drive. After >> booting from it, I discovered a major issue with Voiceover. When installing >> a new major operating system, I prefer to erase my drive and install from >> scratch. Wehn trying to access the list of drives in disk utility, voiceover >> crashes making this task impossible at this point. Wondering if anyone else >> can reproduce this. I know there have been several other issues with using >> Voiceover in Big Sur recovery as well. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/5A9AD31C-0978-4DE9-B95E-9AD7A81D2CD7%40charter.net. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/872A9697-4A00-46A5-A95A-FDDC30ACB9F1%40outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/6BDF6AB0-A4FE-492A-A7A8-CB197A0AB469%40charter.net.
Re: major issue with Big Sur install
This was with a 2018 macbook air. I followed the instructions in this article to create the install drive, that worked fine and I had no problem booting the mac with it. https://www.macworld.com/article/3566910/how-to-create-a-bootable-macos-big-sur-installer-drive.html > On Nov 21, 2020, at 12:39 PM, maurice Mines > wrote: > > Hi, I have some questions, one how did you create the USB install? There are > several machines here that need the upgrade. Two I have not found the issues > that people are talking about on my machine. I'm wondering if it really comes > down to how current in the hardware? This is a 2020 MacBook Pro. So I'm > wondering if that really is the defining issue with installing, And or > upgrading to Mac OS Big Sur. > > Sincerely Maurice Mines. > >> On Nov 21, 2020, at 17:30, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >> I went ahead and created a Big Sur install on a USB flash drive. After >> booting from it, I discovered a major issue with Voiceover. When installing >> a new major operating system, I prefer to erase my drive and install from >> scratch. Wehn trying to access the list of drives in disk utility, voiceover >> crashes making this task impossible at this point. Wondering if anyone else >> can reproduce this. I know there have been several other issues with using >> Voiceover in Big Sur recovery as well. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/5A9AD31C-0978-4DE9-B95E-9AD7A81D2CD7%40charter.net. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2F46C7CC-65A6-4586-B5D4-69FDFAEB102E%40maurice-amines.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4CA9F7E1-AA4D-4AFC-B8D0-9A35CB6FD40B%40charter.net.
Re: major issue with Big Sur install
Hey, Have sent a report to Apple about this, It is a major major bug. > On 22 Nov 2020, at 4:30 am, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > I went ahead and created a Big Sur install on a USB flash drive. After > booting from it, I discovered a major issue with Voiceover. When installing a > new major operating system, I prefer to erase my drive and install from > scratch. Wehn trying to access the list of drives in disk utility, voiceover > crashes making this task impossible at this point. Wondering if anyone else > can reproduce this. I know there have been several other issues with using > Voiceover in Big Sur recovery as well. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/5A9AD31C-0978-4DE9-B95E-9AD7A81D2CD7%40charter.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A276E10A-0FFC-4954-BD7F-BF15B6CCB18E%40gmail.com.
Re: major issue with Big Sur install
Hi! There seems to be some issue with this. I haven’t tried this myself so I can’t test your issue. /A > 21 nov. 2020 kl. 18:30 skrev Mike Arrigo : > > I went ahead and created a Big Sur install on a USB flash drive. After > booting from it, I discovered a major issue with Voiceover. When installing a > new major operating system, I prefer to erase my drive and install from > scratch. Wehn trying to access the list of drives in disk utility, voiceover > crashes making this task impossible at this point. Wondering if anyone else > can reproduce this. I know there have been several other issues with using > Voiceover in Big Sur recovery as well. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/5A9AD31C-0978-4DE9-B95E-9AD7A81D2CD7%40charter.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/64B723AD-0C69-47F2-A7EE-783991B5FDAF%40pipkrokodil.se.
Re: major issue with Big Sur install
I tried it on my mac mini and the same thing happens, attempting to access the list of drives in disk utility will cause voiceover to totally crash. I realize that a new release of an operating system may have some bugs but I would consider this a major bug, at this point, doing a clean install of Big Sur is not possible. I'm not sure if anyone from the applevis site is on this list but if so, you may want to add this to the Big Sur blog article. > On Nov 21, 2020, at 2:06 PM, Michael Marshall > wrote: > > Hey, > Have sent a report to Apple about this, > It is a major major bug. > >> On 22 Nov 2020, at 4:30 am, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >> I went ahead and created a Big Sur install on a USB flash drive. After >> booting from it, I discovered a major issue with Voiceover. When installing >> a new major operating system, I prefer to erase my drive and install from >> scratch. Wehn trying to access the list of drives in disk utility, voiceover >> crashes making this task impossible at this point. Wondering if anyone else >> can reproduce this. I know there have been several other issues with using >> Voiceover in Big Sur recovery as well. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/5A9AD31C-0978-4DE9-B95E-9AD7A81D2CD7%40charter.net. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A276E10A-0FFC-4954-BD7F-BF15B6CCB18E%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A5AA8639-31A9-466E-86B8-593292E71C25%40charter.net.
