Re: navigating pop up menus with first letter?

2013-10-07 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Edward,
Thanks. I was ever so sure that I had, in fact, turned qn off prior to 
attempting to use first letter nav in the pop up menu. But I must not have, 
because I just did it again, after seeing your note, and it worked as it should 
on the amazon site. I do think it would be nice if the qn first letter nag were 
a bit more intelligent than it is. That is, seems to me there ought to be a way 
for the folks at Apple to program in to this feature some means of telling that 
it is engaged in some kind of interaction, and the first letter nav ought to 
just shut off. It truly diminishes the utility of this great feature when you 
have to keep turning it off and on and doing extra interaction, as is the case 
with edit boxes. The Windows screen readers have finally figured out a more 
intelligent approach to forms mode. And, as I recall, if you use a keyboard in 
IOS, you don't have this problem. I haven't used my bt keyboard and iPad in a 
while, so I may be wrong. But I don't recall having issues with first letter 
nag on websites under IOS. Maybe they'll beef this up in Mavericks. One may 
hope.

Mary

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Re: navigating pop up menus with first letter?

2013-10-05 Thread Edward Green
Hi Mary,

Once you've activated the pop up menu, press left and right arrows together to 
turn quicknav off.  First letter navigation should work now, I've just tried it 
on Amazon.

Cheers,

Ed
On 5 Oct 2013, at 01:48, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a new Mac mini with Mountain Lion. I moved from Snow Leopard to 
 Mountain Lion. I also still use Windows, so maybe my Windows stuff is getting 
 in the way here. I thought I remembered that, when you activate a menu with a 
 pop up button, those are combo boxes in Windows, you could do first letter 
 navigation to get near the item you want. For instance, on the Amazon site, 
 you navigate a list or menu for which department you want to search in after 
 activating the pop up. With my new Mac, I can't, for instance, type a k to 
 move directly to the item for the Kindle store like I can in Windows after 
 activating the same control, which Windows sees as a combo box. I thought 
 under SL,  it was also possible to use this sort of navigation. Am I nuts? Is 
 there a setting I am missing. 
 
 Mary
 
 Mary Otten
 motte...@gmail.com
 
 
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navigating pop up menus with first letter?

2013-10-04 Thread Mary Otten
I have a new Mac mini with Mountain Lion. I moved from Snow Leopard to Mountain 
Lion. I also still use Windows, so maybe my Windows stuff is getting in the way 
here. I thought I remembered that, when you activate a menu with a pop up 
button, those are combo boxes in Windows, you could do first letter navigation 
to get near the item you want. For instance, on the Amazon site, you navigate a 
list or menu for which department you want to search in after activating the 
pop up. With my new Mac, I can't, for instance, type a k to move directly to 
the item for the Kindle store like I can in Windows after activating the same 
control, which Windows sees as a combo box. I thought under SL,  it was also 
possible to use this sort of navigation. Am I nuts? Is there a setting I am 
missing. 

Mary

Mary Otten
motte...@gmail.com


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Re: navigating pop up menus with first letter?

2013-10-04 Thread Chris Blouch
Drop-down menus do have the first-letter shortcut to jump to some item 
in the list. Works just fine if Amazon used them. In the case of the 
Departments list Amazon is making their own menus out of piles of 
containers with some css to style it and javascript to make it 
interactive. Any keyboard handling is something they would have to write 
code to support since they are rolling their own widgets so if it's not 
doing this on the Mac then it sounds like Amazon is serving up a 
different view for Safari/Mac than for Windows and the Mac one doesn't 
support first-letter shortcuts. That said, I know Amazon just hired a 
smarty guy from Oracle (was originally with Sun) to head up 
accessibility so I'm expecting good things from them soon. I'll give him 
a few months to get his feet on the ground before I pester him with 
accessibility bugs.


CB

On 10/4/13 8:48 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

I have a new Mac mini with Mountain Lion. I moved from Snow Leopard to Mountain 
Lion. I also still use Windows, so maybe my Windows stuff is getting in the way 
here. I thought I remembered that, when you activate a menu with a pop up 
button, those are combo boxes in Windows, you could do first letter navigation 
to get near the item you want. For instance, on the Amazon site, you navigate a 
list or menu for which department you want to search in after activating the 
pop up. With my new Mac, I can't, for instance, type a k to move directly to 
the item for the Kindle store like I can in Windows after activating the same 
control, which Windows sees as a combo box. I thought under SL,  it was also 
possible to use this sort of navigation. Am I nuts? Is there a setting I am 
missing.

Mary

Mary Otten
motte...@gmail.com




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