subject:"new iPhone"

Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

2024-10-08 Thread Bradford Snyder

Try taking off those Groucho Marx glasses and nose.
Just kidding.
When unlocking the phone with FaceID, try directing your face at the top center 
of the iPhone’s screen, near the earpiece speaker, because this is where the 
FaceID sensor is located.
See if attention awareness is disabled.  If it is, you might try turning it on. 
 If it is on, try turning it off.
If this doesn’t help, I would try redoing the FaceID setup. 

- Brad -



On Oct 8, 2024, at 15:11, pdevasto0...@gmail.com wrote:

OK folks,
 
I’m on and am well on my way to configuring the phone. I’ve set up both a pass 
code and my Face ID. When I go to unlock the phone, it’s still asking for 
passcode and not seeming to care about the Face ID. What do I need to do here?
 
Thanks for all your help on this, everyone!
 
Pete
 
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 7:25 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro
 
Hey Pete,
 
Not Brad, but I thought I would weigh in. This sounds a lot like the issue I 
had on my iPhone 14 Pro when I upgraded to iOS 18. For me it resolved once I 
logged in for the first time. After that, I had no problems entering the 
password.
HDH,
Donna
Sent from my iPhone


> On Oct 8, 2024, at 9:22 AM, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Brad,
>  
> Is your wife’s phone still having the issue? If not, how did you resolve it? 
> And BTW, I’m really impressed with your knowledge of this stuff and how 
> you’re able to help so many other people who need it.
>  
> Pete
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Bradford Snyder
> Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 7:14 PM
> To: MacVisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro
>  
> This seems to be a bug that doesn’t effect everyone.
> I had no issue when setting up my iPhone 16 Pro, but did experience this 
> issue when setting up my wife’s iPhone 16.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
>  
> On Oct 7, 2024, at 18:42, Marlene Kramer  <mailto:marlenebiologis...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> This sounds like the problem I’m having on both my iPhone 16 Pro Max and 
> iPhone 13 Pro Max, both of which are running iOS 18.0. I have not yet updated 
> to 18.01.
> From a shutdown, activating the phone does not give me a way to enter the 
> passcode if VoiceOver is on. The only way I can do this is to turn VoiceOver 
> off by pressing the right button or side button three times, then using one 
> finger swipe up from the bottom, then pressing the side button three times to 
> reactivate voiceover. Doing this I get my passcode entry field.
> From a lock screen, I get the normal behavior, with the option of either 
> their Face ID or passcode.
> I do not know what the problem with this is, and I hope it can get fixed.
> Best, Keith
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 7, 2024, at 6:13 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Put one finger at the bottom center edge of the screen. You should hear a 
>> slight pop. Now drag that single finger up to about the 1/3 point of the 
>> screen. You should hear another slight pop. Lift your finger. You should now 
>> have the keypad for entering your passcode.
>>  
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Oct 7, 2024, at 17:59, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> OK I’m getting there I think. I’ve restored my 16 Pro from a backup of my 
>> 3rd gen SE. Now, only thing I can’t seem to do is get the srequired swipe 
>> gestures to work for unlocking the phone. Raising the phone does wake it up  
>> and I get the unlock screen, and I can get to a point where I can get VO to 
>> say “swipe to unlock”, but no matter how hard or where I try swiping, I 
>> can’t unlock it. Each swipe selects a rotor item. I don’t have Face ID set 
>> up just yet, but it does have the pass code from my old phone. Where might I 
>> be going wrong here? I’d like to be able to at least get to the point where 
>> I can enter my pass code.
>>  
>> Thanks for any help,
>> Pete
>>  
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Herbie Allen
>> Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 12:53 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iP

Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

2024-10-08 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries

Hey Pete,

That was my experience when I got my iPhone X.  I promise, it gets easier.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Oct 8, 2024, at 6:07 PM, pdevasto0...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Never mind this one, I did finally get Face ID to work. I don’t know about 
> anyone else, but it really wasn’t as easy as one would think using VO. I’d 
> get confirmation that my face was in the frame, but almost immediately it 
> lost focus. I had to retry setting Face ID up several times before I got it 
> right. For me, it was really hard to keep my phone in the same position while 
> turning my head slowly for the phone to get the image. I actually resorted to 
> putting my phone onto a tripod that I happened to have, which held the phone 
> still so I could just concentrate on rotating my head properly. But at least 
> Face ID is unlocking my phone for me now. Thanks for being patient with me as 
> I worked through this.
>  
> WHEW,
> Pete 
>  
> From: pdevasto0...@gmail.com <mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com> 
> mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>> 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 1:11 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro
>  
> OK folks,
>  
> I’m on and am well on my way to configuring the phone. I’ve set up both a 
> pass code and my Face ID. When I go to unlock the phone, it’s still asking 
> for passcode and not seeming to care about the Face ID. What do I need to do 
> here?
>  
> Thanks for all your help on this, everyone!
>  
> Pete
>  
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 7:25 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro
>  
> Hey Pete,
>  
> Not Brad, but I thought I would weigh in. This sounds a lot like the issue I 
> had on my iPhone 14 Pro when I upgraded to iOS 18. For me it resolved once I 
> logged in for the first time. After that, I had no problems entering the 
> password.
> HDH,
> Donna
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2024, at 9:22 AM, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Brad,
>>  
>> Is your wife’s phone still having the issue? If not, how did you resolve it? 
>> And BTW, I’m really impressed with your knowledge of this stuff and how 
>> you’re able to help so many other people who need it.
>>  
>> Pete
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Bradford Snyder
>> Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 7:14 PM
>> To: MacVisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro
>>  
>> This seems to be a bug that doesn’t effect everyone.
>> I had no issue when setting up my iPhone 16 Pro, but did experience this 
>> issue when setting up my wife’s iPhone 16.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> On Oct 7, 2024, at 18:42, Marlene Kramer > <mailto:marlenebiologis...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> This sounds like the problem I’m having on both my iPhone 16 Pro Max and 
>> iPhone 13 Pro Max, both of which are running iOS 18.0. I have not yet 
>> updated to 18.01.
>> From a shutdown, activating the phone does not give me a way to enter the 
>> passcode if VoiceOver is on. The only way I can do this is to turn VoiceOver 
>> off by pressing the right button or side button three times, then using one 
>> finger swipe up from the bottom, then pressing the side button three times 
>> to reactivate voiceover. Doing this I get my passcode entry field.
>> From a lock screen, I get the normal behavior, with the option of either 
>> their Face ID or passcode.
>> I do not know what the problem with this is, and I hope it can get fixed.
>> Best, Keith
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 7, 2024, at 6:13 PM, Brad Snyder >> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Put one finger at the bottom center edge of the screen. You should hear a 
>>> slight pop. Now drag that single finger up to about the 1/3 point of the 
>>> screen. You should hear another slight pop. Lift your finger. You should 
>>> now have the keypad for entering your passcode.
>>>  
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Oct 7, 2024, at 17:59, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>

FW: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

2024-10-08 Thread pdevasto0219

Never mind this one, I did finally get Face ID to work. I don’t know about 
anyone else, but it really wasn’t as easy as one would think using VO. I’d get 
confirmation that my face was in the frame, but almost immediately it lost 
focus. I had to retry setting Face ID up several times before I got it right. 
For me, it was really hard to keep my phone in the same position while turning 
my head slowly for the phone to get the image. I actually resorted to putting 
my phone onto a tripod that I happened to have, which held the phone still so I 
could just concentrate on rotating my head properly. But at least Face ID is 
unlocking my phone for me now. Thanks for being patient with me as I worked 
through this.

WHEW,

Pete 

From: pdevasto0...@gmail.com  
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 1:11 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

OK folks,

I’m on and am well on my way to configuring the phone. I’ve set up both a pass 
code and my Face ID. When I go to unlock the phone, it’s still asking for 
passcode and not seeming to care about the Face ID. What do I need to do here?

Thanks for all your help on this, everyone!

Pete

From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 7:25 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

Hey Pete,

Not Brad, but I thought I would weigh in. This sounds a lot like the issue I 
had on my iPhone 14 Pro when I upgraded to iOS 18. For me it resolved once I 
logged in for the first time. After that, I had no problems entering the 
password.

HDH,

Donna

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 8, 2024, at 9:22 AM, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
<mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>  wrote:

Brad,

Is your wife’s phone still having the issue? If not, how did you resolve it? 
And BTW, I’m really impressed with your knowledge of this stuff and how you’re 
able to help so many other people who need it.

Pete

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Bradford Snyder
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 7:14 PM
To: MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

This seems to be a bug that doesn’t effect everyone.

I had no issue when setting up my iPhone 16 Pro, but did experience this issue 
when setting up my wife’s iPhone 16.

- Brad -

On Oct 7, 2024, at 18:42, Marlene Kramer mailto:marlenebiologis...@gmail.com> > wrote:

This sounds like the problem I’m having on both my iPhone 16 Pro Max and iPhone 
13 Pro Max, both of which are running iOS 18.0. I have not yet updated to 18.01.

>From a shutdown, activating the phone does not give me a way to enter the 
>passcode if VoiceOver is on. The only way I can do this is to turn VoiceOver 
>off by pressing the right button or side button three times, then using one 
>finger swipe up from the bottom, then pressing the side button three times to 
>reactivate voiceover. Doing this I get my passcode entry field.

>From a lock screen, I get the normal behavior, with the option of either their 
>Face ID or passcode.

I do not know what the problem with this is, and I hope it can get fixed.

Best, Keith

On Oct 7, 2024, at 6:13 PM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net> > wrote:

Put one finger at the bottom center edge of the screen. You should hear a 
slight pop. Now drag that single finger up to about the 1/3 point of the 
screen. You should hear another slight pop. Lift your finger. You should now 
have the keypad for entering your passcode.

- Brad -

On Oct 7, 2024, at 17:59, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
<mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>  wrote:

OK I’m getting there I think. I’ve restored my 16 Pro from a backup of my 3rd 
gen SE. Now, only thing I can’t seem to do is get the srequired swipe gestures 
to work for unlocking the phone. Raising the phone does wake it up  and I get 
the unlock screen, and I can get to a point where I can get VO to say “swipe to 
unlock”, but no matter how hard or where I try swiping, I can’t unlock it. Each 
swipe selects a rotor item. I don’t have Face ID set up just yet, but it does 
have the pass code from my old phone. Where might I be going wrong here? I’d 
like to be able to at least get to the point where I can enter my pass code.

Thanks for any help,

Pete

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Herbie Allen
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 12:53 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

Try hitting the lock screen button. F

RE: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

2024-10-08 Thread pdevasto0219

OK folks,

I’m on and am well on my way to configuring the phone. I’ve set up both a pass 
code and my Face ID. When I go to unlock the phone, it’s still asking for 
passcode and not seeming to care about the Face ID. What do I need to do here?

Thanks for all your help on this, everyone!

Pete

From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 7:25 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

Hey Pete,

Not Brad, but I thought I would weigh in. This sounds a lot like the issue I 
had on my iPhone 14 Pro when I upgraded to iOS 18. For me it resolved once I 
logged in for the first time. After that, I had no problems entering the 
password.

HDH,

Donna

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 8, 2024, at 9:22 AM, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
<mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>  wrote:

Brad,

Is your wife’s phone still having the issue? If not, how did you resolve it? 
And BTW, I’m really impressed with your knowledge of this stuff and how you’re 
able to help so many other people who need it.

Pete

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Bradford Snyder
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 7:14 PM
To: MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

This seems to be a bug that doesn’t effect everyone.

I had no issue when setting up my iPhone 16 Pro, but did experience this issue 
when setting up my wife’s iPhone 16.

- Brad -

On Oct 7, 2024, at 18:42, Marlene Kramer mailto:marlenebiologis...@gmail.com> > wrote:

This sounds like the problem I’m having on both my iPhone 16 Pro Max and iPhone 
13 Pro Max, both of which are running iOS 18.0. I have not yet updated to 18.01.

>From a shutdown, activating the phone does not give me a way to enter the 
>passcode if VoiceOver is on. The only way I can do this is to turn VoiceOver 
>off by pressing the right button or side button three times, then using one 
>finger swipe up from the bottom, then pressing the side button three times to 
>reactivate voiceover. Doing this I get my passcode entry field.

>From a lock screen, I get the normal behavior, with the option of either their 
>Face ID or passcode.

I do not know what the problem with this is, and I hope it can get fixed.

Best, Keith

On Oct 7, 2024, at 6:13 PM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net> > wrote:

Put one finger at the bottom center edge of the screen. You should hear a 
slight pop. Now drag that single finger up to about the 1/3 point of the 
screen. You should hear another slight pop. Lift your finger. You should now 
have the keypad for entering your passcode.

- Brad -

On Oct 7, 2024, at 17:59, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
<mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>  wrote:

OK I’m getting there I think. I’ve restored my 16 Pro from a backup of my 3rd 
gen SE. Now, only thing I can’t seem to do is get the srequired swipe gestures 
to work for unlocking the phone. Raising the phone does wake it up  and I get 
the unlock screen, and I can get to a point where I can get VO to say “swipe to 
unlock”, but no matter how hard or where I try swiping, I can’t unlock it. Each 
swipe selects a rotor item. I don’t have Face ID set up just yet, but it does 
have the pass code from my old phone. Where might I be going wrong here? I’d 
like to be able to at least get to the point where I can enter my pass code.

Thanks for any help,

Pete

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Herbie Allen
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 12:53 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

Try hitting the lock screen button. For me at least, that has bypassed that 
from the start. If that does not work, then double tap anywhere on the screen 
and that should take you to the next window. You can confirm the language from 
that screen.

On Oct 7, 2024, at 14:31, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
<mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>  wrote:

I really feel sheepish, so please forgive this very basic dilemma I’m in. I’ve 
turned on my iPhone 16 Pro and activated Voiceover. I tapped OK on the 
announcement of all the gestures, but now I can’t get past the Hello screen! 
It’s telling me to swipe up with one finger to open, but I can’t get it to stop 
on English. I guess it’s been too long since I’ve set up a new phone, and this 
is the first one I’ve gotten with Face ID. What am I missing to get past this 
first screen?

Somewhat embarrassed,

Pete De Vasto

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Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

2024-10-08 Thread Herbie Allen

I had an odd issue on my iPhone 13 the other day where I could not get the 
screen to unlock at all. I had to restart the phone and that solved that.

> On Oct 8, 2024, at 09:45, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
> 
> No, no issues after the initial login.
> I have a little vision in one eye, so I was able to enter her passcode.
> If I had not been able to do this myself, I would have called Aira, using my 
> iPhone, or just waited until my wife was available to assist.
> FYI - my wife is fully sighted.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 8, 2024, at 09:22, pdevasto0...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Brad,
>  
> Is your wife’s phone still having the issue? If not, how did you resolve it? 
> And BTW, I’m really impressed with your knowledge of this stuff and how 
> you’re able to help so many other people who need it.
>  
> Pete
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Bradford Snyder
> Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 7:14 PM
> To: MacVisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro
>  
> This seems to be a bug that doesn’t effect everyone.
> I had no issue when setting up my iPhone 16 Pro, but did experience this 
> issue when setting up my wife’s iPhone 16.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
>  
> On Oct 7, 2024, at 18:42, Marlene Kramer  <mailto:marlenebiologis...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> This sounds like the problem I’m having on both my iPhone 16 Pro Max and 
> iPhone 13 Pro Max, both of which are running iOS 18.0. I have not yet updated 
> to 18.01.
> From a shutdown, activating the phone does not give me a way to enter the 
> passcode if VoiceOver is on. The only way I can do this is to turn VoiceOver 
> off by pressing the right button or side button three times, then using one 
> finger swipe up from the bottom, then pressing the side button three times to 
> reactivate voiceover. Doing this I get my passcode entry field.
> From a lock screen, I get the normal behavior, with the option of either 
> their Face ID or passcode.
> I do not know what the problem with this is, and I hope it can get fixed.
> Best, Keith
> 
> 
>> On Oct 7, 2024, at 6:13 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Put one finger at the bottom center edge of the screen. You should hear a 
>> slight pop. Now drag that single finger up to about the 1/3 point of the 
>> screen. You should hear another slight pop. Lift your finger. You should now 
>> have the keypad for entering your passcode.
>>  
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Oct 7, 2024, at 17:59, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> OK I’m getting there I think. I’ve restored my 16 Pro from a backup of my 
>> 3rd gen SE. Now, only thing I can’t seem to do is get the srequired swipe 
>> gestures to work for unlocking the phone. Raising the phone does wake it up  
>> and I get the unlock screen, and I can get to a point where I can get VO to 
>> say “swipe to unlock”, but no matter how hard or where I try swiping, I 
>> can’t unlock it. Each swipe selects a rotor item. I don’t have Face ID set 
>> up just yet, but it does have the pass code from my old phone. Where might I 
>> be going wrong here? I’d like to be able to at least get to the point where 
>> I can enter my pass code.
>>  
>> Thanks for any help,
>> Pete
>>  
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Herbie Allen
>> Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 12:53 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro
>>  
>> Try hitting the lock screen button. For me at least, that has bypassed that 
>> from the start. If that does not work, then double tap anywhere on the 
>> screen and that should take you to the next window. You can confirm the 
>> language from that screen.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 7, 2024, at 14:31, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>> I really feel sheepish, so please forgive this very basic dilemma I’m in. 
>>> I’ve turned on my iPhone 16 Pro and activated Voiceover. I tapped OK on the 
>>> announcement of all the gestures, but now I can’t get past the Hello 
>>> screen! It’s telling me to swipe up with one finger to open, but I can’t 
>>> get it to stop on English. I

Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

2024-10-08 Thread Bradford Snyder

I use the Overcast podcast app.
I am able to access all episodes of all of Jonathan’s various podcasts using 
Overcast.
Overcast is a free app, and I think is the best podcast app available.

- Brad -

On Oct 8, 2024, at 09:25, pdevasto0...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for the tip, Brad. Unfortunately I found the Blind Side series in Apple 
podcasts, but not every episode was available, at least for me. However, Dave 
Mason did a podcast on Applevis specifically addressing the differences between 
unlocking the iPhone and using the app switcher on phones with or without Face 
ID.

Pete

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Bradford Snyder
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 4:49 PM
To: MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

Pete,

Something that may help you in learning your new iPhone 16 Pro, is a podcast 
Jonathan Mosen did on unboxing and setup of his new iPhone X, which was the 
first iPhone that did not have a Home Button.
In this podcast, Jonathan goes over setting up the iPhone X, and learning the 
new gestures.  He also demonstrates setting up FaceID and lots of other tips 
for getting familiar with the new iPhone without a Home button.

The podcast is episode 61, from his Blind Side podcast, from November 2, 2017.
You should be able to find it by searching in any podcast app.

HTH.

- Brad -

On Oct 7, 2024, at 17:58, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
<mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com> wrote:

OK I’m getting there I think. I’ve restored my 16 Pro from a backup of my 3rd 
gen SE. Now, only thing I can’t seem to do is get the srequired swipe gestures 
to work for unlocking the phone. Raising the phone does wake it up  and I get 
the unlock screen, and I can get to a point where I can get VO to say “swipe to 
unlock”, but no matter how hard or where I try swiping, I can’t unlock it. Each 
swipe selects a rotor item. I don’t have Face ID set up just yet, but it does 
have the pass code from my old phone. Where might I be going wrong here? I’d 
like to be able to at least get to the point where I can enter my pass code.

Thanks for any help,
Pete

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Herbie Allen
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 12:53 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

Try hitting the lock screen button. For me at least, that has bypassed that 
from the start. If that does not work, then double tap anywhere on the screen 
and that should take you to the next window. You can confirm the language from 
that screen.

> On Oct 7, 2024, at 14:31, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> I really feel sheepish, so please forgive this very basic dilemma I’m in. 
> I’ve turned on my iPhone 16 Pro and activated Voiceover. I tapped OK on the 
> announcement of all the gestures, but now I can’t get past the Hello screen! 
> It’s telling me to swipe up with one finger to open, but I can’t get it to 
> stop on English. I guess it’s been too long since I’ve set up a new phone, 
> and this is the first one I’ve gotten with Face ID. What am I missing to get 
> past this first screen?
>  
> Somewhat embarrassed,
> Pete De Vasto
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Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

2024-10-08 Thread Bradford Snyder

Yes, it was the exat same issue.

- Brad -



On Oct 8, 2024, at 09:24, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hey Pete,

Not Brad, but I thought I would weigh in. This sounds a lot like the issue I 
had on my iPhone 14 Pro when I upgraded to iOS 18. For me it resolved once I 
logged in for the first time. After that, I had no problems entering the 
password.
HDH,
Donna
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 8, 2024, at 9:22 AM, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Brad,
>  
> Is your wife’s phone still having the issue? If not, how did you resolve it? 
> And BTW, I’m really impressed with your knowledge of this stuff and how 
> you’re able to help so many other people who need it.
>  
> Pete
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Bradford Snyder
> Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 7:14 PM
> To: MacVisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro
>  
> This seems to be a bug that doesn’t effect everyone.
> I had no issue when setting up my iPhone 16 Pro, but did experience this 
> issue when setting up my wife’s iPhone 16.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
>  
> On Oct 7, 2024, at 18:42, Marlene Kramer  <mailto:marlenebiologis...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> This sounds like the problem I’m having on both my iPhone 16 Pro Max and 
> iPhone 13 Pro Max, both of which are running iOS 18.0. I have not yet updated 
> to 18.01.
> From a shutdown, activating the phone does not give me a way to enter the 
> passcode if VoiceOver is on. The only way I can do this is to turn VoiceOver 
> off by pressing the right button or side button three times, then using one 
> finger swipe up from the bottom, then pressing the side button three times to 
> reactivate voiceover. Doing this I get my passcode entry field.
> From a lock screen, I get the normal behavior, with the option of either 
> their Face ID or passcode.
> I do not know what the problem with this is, and I hope it can get fixed.
> Best, Keith
> 
> 
> On Oct 7, 2024, at 6:13 PM, Brad Snyder  <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
> 
> Put one finger at the bottom center edge of the screen. You should hear a 
> slight pop. Now drag that single finger up to about the 1/3 point of the 
> screen. You should hear another slight pop. Lift your finger. You should now 
> have the keypad for entering your passcode.
>  
> - Brad -
> 
> On Oct 7, 2024, at 17:59, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> OK I’m getting there I think. I’ve restored my 16 Pro from a backup of my 3rd 
> gen SE. Now, only thing I can’t seem to do is get the srequired swipe 
> gestures to work for unlocking the phone. Raising the phone does wake it up  
> and I get the unlock screen, and I can get to a point where I can get VO to 
> say “swipe to unlock”, but no matter how hard or where I try swiping, I can’t 
> unlock it. Each swipe selects a rotor item. I don’t have Face ID set up just 
> yet, but it does have the pass code from my old phone. Where might I be going 
> wrong here? I’d like to be able to at least get to the point where I can 
> enter my pass code.
>  
> Thanks for any help,
> Pete
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Herbie Allen
> Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 12:53 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro
>  
> Try hitting the lock screen button. For me at least, that has bypassed that 
> from the start. If that does not work, then double tap anywhere on the screen 
> and that should take you to the next window. You can confirm the language 
> from that screen.
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 7, 2024, at 14:31, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> I really feel sheepish, so please forgive this very basic dilemma I’m in. 
> I’ve turned on my iPhone 16 Pro and activated Voiceover. I tapped OK on the 
> announcement of all the gestures, but now I can’t get past the Hello screen! 
> It’s telling me to swipe up with one finger to open, but I can’t get it to 
> stop on English. I guess it’s been too long since I’ve set up a new phone, 
> and this is the first one I’ve gotten with Face ID. What am I missing to get 
> past this first screen?
>  
> Somewhat embarrassed,
> Pete De Vasto
>  
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Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

2024-10-08 Thread Bradford Snyder

No, no issues after the initial login.
I have a little vision in one eye, so I was able to enter her passcode.
If I had not been able to do this myself, I would have called Aira, using my 
iPhone, or just waited until my wife was available to assist.
FYI - my wife is fully sighted.

- Brad -



On Oct 8, 2024, at 09:22, pdevasto0...@gmail.com wrote:

Brad,
 
Is your wife’s phone still having the issue? If not, how did you resolve it? 
And BTW, I’m really impressed with your knowledge of this stuff and how you’re 
able to help so many other people who need it.
 
Pete
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Bradford Snyder
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 7:14 PM
To: MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro
 
This seems to be a bug that doesn’t effect everyone.
I had no issue when setting up my iPhone 16 Pro, but did experience this issue 
when setting up my wife’s iPhone 16.

- Brad -


 
On Oct 7, 2024, at 18:42, Marlene Kramer mailto:marlenebiologis...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
This sounds like the problem I’m having on both my iPhone 16 Pro Max and iPhone 
13 Pro Max, both of which are running iOS 18.0. I have not yet updated to 18.01.
>From a shutdown, activating the phone does not give me a way to enter the 
>passcode if VoiceOver is on. The only way I can do this is to turn VoiceOver 
>off by pressing the right button or side button three times, then using one 
>finger swipe up from the bottom, then pressing the side button three times to 
>reactivate voiceover. Doing this I get my passcode entry field.
>From a lock screen, I get the normal behavior, with the option of either their 
>Face ID or passcode.
I do not know what the problem with this is, and I hope it can get fixed.
Best, Keith


> On Oct 7, 2024, at 6:13 PM, Brad Snyder  <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
> 
> Put one finger at the bottom center edge of the screen. You should hear a 
> slight pop. Now drag that single finger up to about the 1/3 point of the 
> screen. You should hear another slight pop. Lift your finger. You should now 
> have the keypad for entering your passcode.
>  
> - Brad -
> 
> On Oct 7, 2024, at 17:59, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> OK I’m getting there I think. I’ve restored my 16 Pro from a backup of my 3rd 
> gen SE. Now, only thing I can’t seem to do is get the srequired swipe 
> gestures to work for unlocking the phone. Raising the phone does wake it up  
> and I get the unlock screen, and I can get to a point where I can get VO to 
> say “swipe to unlock”, but no matter how hard or where I try swiping, I can’t 
> unlock it. Each swipe selects a rotor item. I don’t have Face ID set up just 
> yet, but it does have the pass code from my old phone. Where might I be going 
> wrong here? I’d like to be able to at least get to the point where I can 
> enter my pass code.
>  
> Thanks for any help,
> Pete
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Herbie Allen
> Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 12:53 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro
>  
> Try hitting the lock screen button. For me at least, that has bypassed that 
> from the start. If that does not work, then double tap anywhere on the screen 
> and that should take you to the next window. You can confirm the language 
> from that screen.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 7, 2024, at 14:31, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  
>> I really feel sheepish, so please forgive this very basic dilemma I’m in. 
>> I’ve turned on my iPhone 16 Pro and activated Voiceover. I tapped OK on the 
>> announcement of all the gestures, but now I can’t get past the Hello screen! 
>> It’s telling me to swipe up with one finger to open, but I can’t get it to 
>> stop on English. I guess it’s been too long since I’ve set up a new phone, 
>> and this is the first one I’ve gotten with Face ID. What am I missing to get 
>> past this first screen?
>>  
>> Somewhat embarrassed,
>> Pete De Vasto
>>  
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RE: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

2024-10-08 Thread pdevasto0219

Thanks for the tip, Brad. Unfortunately I found the Blind Side series in Apple 
podcasts, but not every episode was available, at least for me. However, Dave 
Mason did a podcast on Applevis specifically addressing the differences between 
unlocking the iPhone and using the app switcher on phones with or without Face 
ID.

 

Pete

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Bradford Snyder
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 4:49 PM
To: MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

 

Pete,

 

Something that may help you in learning your new iPhone 16 Pro, is a podcast 
Jonathan Mosen did on unboxing and setup of his new iPhone X, which was the 
first iPhone that did not have a Home Button.

In this podcast, Jonathan goes over setting up the iPhone X, and learning the 
new gestures.  He also demonstrates setting up FaceID and lots of other tips 
for getting familiar with the new iPhone without a Home button.

 

The podcast is episode 61, from his Blind Side podcast, from November 2, 2017.

You should be able to find it by searching in any podcast app.

 

HTH.


- Brad -



 

On Oct 7, 2024, at 17:58, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
<mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>  wrote:

 

OK I’m getting there I think. I’ve restored my 16 Pro from a backup of my 3rd 
gen SE. Now, only thing I can’t seem to do is get the srequired swipe gestures 
to work for unlocking the phone. Raising the phone does wake it up  and I get 
the unlock screen, and I can get to a point where I can get VO to say “swipe to 
unlock”, but no matter how hard or where I try swiping, I can’t unlock it. Each 
swipe selects a rotor item. I don’t have Face ID set up just yet, but it does 
have the pass code from my old phone. Where might I be going wrong here? I’d 
like to be able to at least get to the point where I can enter my pass code.

 

Thanks for any help,

Pete

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Herbie Allen
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 12:53 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

 

Try hitting the lock screen button. For me at least, that has bypassed that 
from the start. If that does not work, then double tap anywhere on the screen 
and that should take you to the next window. You can confirm the language from 
that screen.






On Oct 7, 2024, at 14:31, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
<mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>  wrote:

 

I really feel sheepish, so please forgive this very basic dilemma I’m in. I’ve 
turned on my iPhone 16 Pro and activated Voiceover. I tapped OK on the 
announcement of all the gestures, but now I can’t get past the Hello screen! 
It’s telling me to swipe up with one finger to open, but I can’t get it to stop 
on English. I guess it’s been too long since I’ve set up a new phone, and this 
is the first one I’ve gotten with Face ID. What am I missing to get past this 
first screen?

 

Somewhat embarrassed,

Pete De Vasto

 

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Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

2024-10-08 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries

Hey Pete,Not Brad, but I thought I would weigh in. This sounds a lot like the issue I had on my iPhone 14 Pro when I upgraded to iOS 18. For me it resolved once I logged in for the first time. After that, I had no problems entering the password.HDH,DonnaSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 8, 2024, at 9:22 AM, pdevasto0...@gmail.com wrote:Brad, Is your wife’s phone still having the issue? If not, how did you resolve it? And BTW, I’m really impressed with your knowledge of this stuff and how you’re able to help so many other people who need it. Pete From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Bradford SnyderSent: Monday, October 7, 2024 7:14 PMTo: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro This seems to be a bug that doesn’t effect everyone.I had no issue when setting up my iPhone 16 Pro, but did experience this issue when setting up my wife’s iPhone 16.- Brad - On Oct 7, 2024, at 18:42, Marlene Kramer <marlenebiologis...@gmail.com> wrote: This sounds like the problem I’m having on both my iPhone 16 Pro Max and iPhone 13 Pro Max, both of which are running iOS 18.0. I have not yet updated to 18.01.From a shutdown, activating the phone does not give me a way to enter the passcode if VoiceOver is on. The only way I can do this is to turn VoiceOver off by pressing the right button or side button three times, then using one finger swipe up from the bottom, then pressing the side button three times to reactivate voiceover. Doing this I get my passcode entry field.From a lock screen, I get the normal behavior, with the option of either their Face ID or passcode.I do not know what the problem with this is, and I hope it can get fixed.Best, KeithOn Oct 7, 2024, at 6:13 PM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net> wrote:Put one finger at the bottom center edge of the screen. You should hear a slight pop. Now drag that single finger up to about the 1/3 point of the screen. You should hear another slight pop. Lift your finger. You should now have the keypad for entering your passcode. - Brad -On Oct 7, 2024, at 17:59, pdevasto0...@gmail.com wrote:OK I’m getting there I think. I’ve restored my 16 Pro from a backup of my 3rd gen SE. Now, only thing I can’t seem to do is get the srequired swipe gestures to work for unlocking the phone. Raising the phone does wake it up and I get the unlock screen, and I can get to a point where I can get VO to say “swipe to unlock”, but no matter how hard or where I try swiping, I can’t unlock it. Each swipe selects a rotor item. I don’t have Face ID set up just yet, but it does have the pass code from my old phone. Where might I be going wrong here? I’d like to be able to at least get to the point where I can enter my pass code. Thanks for any help,Pete From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Herbie AllenSent: Monday, October 7, 2024 12:53 PMTo: macvisionaries@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro Try hitting the lock screen button. For me at least, that has bypassed that from the start. If that does not work, then double tap anywhere on the screen and that should take you to the next window. You can confirm the language from that screen.On Oct 7, 2024, at 14:31, pdevasto0...@gmail.com wrote: I really feel sheepish, so please forgive this very basic dilemma I’m in. I’ve turned on my iPhone 16 Pro and activated Voiceover. I tapped OK on the announcement of all the gestures, but now I can’t get past the Hello screen! It’s telling me to swipe up with one finger to open, but I can’t get it to stop on English. I guess it’s been too long since I’ve set up a new phone, and this is the first one I’ve gotten with Face ID. What am I missing to get past this first screen? Somewhat embarrassed,Pete De Vasto -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/037e01db18ef%2487898a70%24969c9f50%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or mode

RE: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

2024-10-08 Thread pdevasto0219

Brad,

Is your wife’s phone still having the issue? If not, how did you resolve it? 
And BTW, I’m really impressed with your knowledge of this stuff and how you’re 
able to help so many other people who need it.

Pete

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Bradford Snyder
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 7:14 PM
To: MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

This seems to be a bug that doesn’t effect everyone.

I had no issue when setting up my iPhone 16 Pro, but did experience this issue 
when setting up my wife’s iPhone 16.

- Brad -

On Oct 7, 2024, at 18:42, Marlene Kramer mailto:marlenebiologis...@gmail.com> > wrote:

This sounds like the problem I’m having on both my iPhone 16 Pro Max and iPhone 
13 Pro Max, both of which are running iOS 18.0. I have not yet updated to 18.01.

>From a shutdown, activating the phone does not give me a way to enter the 
>passcode if VoiceOver is on. The only way I can do this is to turn VoiceOver 
>off by pressing the right button or side button three times, then using one 
>finger swipe up from the bottom, then pressing the side button three times to 
>reactivate voiceover. Doing this I get my passcode entry field.

>From a lock screen, I get the normal behavior, with the option of either their 
>Face ID or passcode.

I do not know what the problem with this is, and I hope it can get fixed.

Best, Keith

On Oct 7, 2024, at 6:13 PM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net> > wrote:

Put one finger at the bottom center edge of the screen. You should hear a 
slight pop. Now drag that single finger up to about the 1/3 point of the 
screen. You should hear another slight pop. Lift your finger. You should now 
have the keypad for entering your passcode.

- Brad -

On Oct 7, 2024, at 17:59, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
<mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>  wrote:

OK I’m getting there I think. I’ve restored my 16 Pro from a backup of my 3rd 
gen SE. Now, only thing I can’t seem to do is get the srequired swipe gestures 
to work for unlocking the phone. Raising the phone does wake it up  and I get 
the unlock screen, and I can get to a point where I can get VO to say “swipe to 
unlock”, but no matter how hard or where I try swiping, I can’t unlock it. Each 
swipe selects a rotor item. I don’t have Face ID set up just yet, but it does 
have the pass code from my old phone. Where might I be going wrong here? I’d 
like to be able to at least get to the point where I can enter my pass code.

Thanks for any help,

Pete

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Herbie Allen
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 12:53 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

Try hitting the lock screen button. For me at least, that has bypassed that 
from the start. If that does not work, then double tap anywhere on the screen 
and that should take you to the next window. You can confirm the language from 
that screen.

On Oct 7, 2024, at 14:31, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
<mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>  wrote:

I really feel sheepish, so please forgive this very basic dilemma I’m in. I’ve 
turned on my iPhone 16 Pro and activated Voiceover. I tapped OK on the 
announcement of all the gestures, but now I can’t get past the Hello screen! 
It’s telling me to swipe up with one finger to open, but I can’t get it to stop 
on English. I guess it’s been too long since I’ve set up a new phone, and this 
is the first one I’ve gotten with Face ID. What am I missing to get past this 
first screen?

Somewhat embarrassed,

Pete De Vasto

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Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

2024-10-07 Thread Bradford Snyder

This seems to be a bug that doesn’t effect everyone.
I had no issue when setting up my iPhone 16 Pro, but did experience this issue 
when setting up my wife’s iPhone 16.

- Brad -



On Oct 7, 2024, at 18:42, Marlene Kramer  wrote:

This sounds like the problem I’m having on both my iPhone 16 Pro Max and iPhone 
13 Pro Max, both of which are running iOS 18.0. I have not yet updated to 18.01.
>From a shutdown, activating the phone does not give me a way to enter the 
>passcode if VoiceOver is on. The only way I can do this is to turn VoiceOver 
>off by pressing the right button or side button three times, then using one 
>finger swipe up from the bottom, then pressing the side button three times to 
>reactivate voiceover. Doing this I get my passcode entry field.
>From a lock screen, I get the normal behavior, with the option of either their 
>Face ID or passcode.
I do not know what the problem with this is, and I hope it can get fixed.
Best, Keith

> On Oct 7, 2024, at 6:13 PM, Brad Snyder  <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
> 
> Put one finger at the bottom center edge of the screen. You should hear a 
> slight pop. Now drag that single finger up to about the 1/3 point of the 
> screen. You should hear another slight pop. Lift your finger. You should now 
> have the keypad for entering your passcode.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Oct 7, 2024, at 17:59, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> OK I’m getting there I think. I’ve restored my 16 Pro from a backup of my 3rd 
> gen SE. Now, only thing I can’t seem to do is get the srequired swipe 
> gestures to work for unlocking the phone. Raising the phone does wake it up  
> and I get the unlock screen, and I can get to a point where I can get VO to 
> say “swipe to unlock”, but no matter how hard or where I try swiping, I can’t 
> unlock it. Each swipe selects a rotor item. I don’t have Face ID set up just 
> yet, but it does have the pass code from my old phone. Where might I be going 
> wrong here? I’d like to be able to at least get to the point where I can 
> enter my pass code.
>  
> Thanks for any help,
> Pete
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Herbie Allen
> Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 12:53 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro
>  
> Try hitting the lock screen button. For me at least, that has bypassed that 
> from the start. If that does not work, then double tap anywhere on the screen 
> and that should take you to the next window. You can confirm the language 
> from that screen.
> 
> 
> On Oct 7, 2024, at 14:31, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> I really feel sheepish, so please forgive this very basic dilemma I’m in. 
> I’ve turned on my iPhone 16 Pro and activated Voiceover. I tapped OK on the 
> announcement of all the gestures, but now I can’t get past the Hello screen! 
> It’s telling me to swipe up with one finger to open, but I can’t get it to 
> stop on English. I guess it’s been too long since I’ve set up a new phone, 
> and this is the first one I’ve gotten with Face ID. What am I missing to get 
> past this first screen?
>  
> Somewhat embarrassed,
> Pete De Vasto
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Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

2024-10-07 Thread Bradford Snyder

Pete,

Something that may help you in learning your new iPhone 16 Pro, is a podcast 
Jonathan Mosen did on unboxing and setup of his new iPhone X, which was the 
first iPhone that did not have a Home Button.
In this podcast, Jonathan goes over setting up the iPhone X, and learning the 
new gestures.  He also demonstrates setting up FaceID and lots of other tips 
for getting familiar with the new iPhone without a Home button.

The podcast is episode 61, from his Blind Side podcast, from November 2, 2017.
You should be able to find it by searching in any podcast app.

HTH.

- Brad -

On Oct 7, 2024, at 17:58, pdevasto0...@gmail.com wrote:

OK I’m getting there I think. I’ve restored my 16 Pro from a backup of my 3rd 
gen SE. Now, only thing I can’t seem to do is get the srequired swipe gestures 
to work for unlocking the phone. Raising the phone does wake it up  and I get 
the unlock screen, and I can get to a point where I can get VO to say “swipe to 
unlock”, but no matter how hard or where I try swiping, I can’t unlock it. Each 
swipe selects a rotor item. I don’t have Face ID set up just yet, but it does 
have the pass code from my old phone. Where might I be going wrong here? I’d 
like to be able to at least get to the point where I can enter my pass code.

Thanks for any help,
Pete

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Herbie Allen
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 12:53 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

Try hitting the lock screen button. For me at least, that has bypassed that 
from the start. If that does not work, then double tap anywhere on the screen 
and that should take you to the next window. You can confirm the language from 
that screen.

> On Oct 7, 2024, at 14:31, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> I really feel sheepish, so please forgive this very basic dilemma I’m in. 
> I’ve turned on my iPhone 16 Pro and activated Voiceover. I tapped OK on the 
> announcement of all the gestures, but now I can’t get past the Hello screen! 
> It’s telling me to swipe up with one finger to open, but I can’t get it to 
> stop on English. I guess it’s been too long since I’ve set up a new phone, 
> and this is the first one I’ve gotten with Face ID. What am I missing to get 
> past this first screen?
>  
> Somewhat embarrassed,
> Pete De Vasto
>  
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Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro

2024-10-07 Thread Marlene Kramer

This sounds like the problem I’m having on both my iPhone 16 Pro Max and iPhone 13 Pro Max, both of which are running iOS 18.0. I have not yet updated to 18.01.From a shutdown, activating the phone does not give me a way to enter the passcode if VoiceOver is on. The only way I can do this is to turn VoiceOver off by pressing the right button or side button three times, then using one finger swipe up from the bottom, then pressing the side button three times to reactivate voiceover. Doing this I get my passcode entry field.From a lock screen, I get the normal behavior, with the option of either their Face ID or passcode.I do not know what the problem with this is, and I hope it can get fixed.Best, KeithOn Oct 7, 2024, at 6:13 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:Put one finger at the bottom center edge of the screen. You should hear a slight pop. Now drag that single finger up to about the 1/3 point of the screen. You should hear another slight pop. Lift your finger. You should now have the keypad for entering your passcode.- Brad -On Oct 7, 2024, at 17:59, pdevasto0...@gmail.com wrote:OK I’m getting there I think. I’ve restored my 16 Pro from a backup of my 3rd gen SE. Now, only thing I can’t seem to do is get the srequired swipe gestures to work for unlocking the phone. Raising the phone does wake it up and I get the unlock screen, and I can get to a point where I can get VO to say “swipe to unlock”, but no matter how hard or where I try swiping, I can’t unlock it. Each swipe selects a rotor item. I don’t have Face ID set up just yet, but it does have the pass code from my old phone. Where might I be going wrong here? I’d like to be able to at least get to the point where I can enter my pass code. Thanks for any help,Pete From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Herbie AllenSent: Monday, October 7, 2024 12:53 PMTo: macvisionaries@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Initial Setup Of My New iPhone 16 Pro Try hitting the lock screen button. For me at least, that has bypassed that from the start. If that does not work, then double tap anywhere on the screen and that should take you to the next window. You can confirm the language from that screen.On Oct 7, 2024, at 14:31, pdevasto0...@gmail.com wrote: I really feel sheepish, so please forgive this very basic dilemma I’m in. I’ve turned on my iPhone 16 Pro and activated Voiceover. I tapped OK on the announcement of all the gestures, but now I can’t get past the Hello screen! It’s telling me to swipe up with one finger to open, but I can’t get it to stop on English. I guess it’s been too long since I’ve set up a new phone, and this is the first one I’ve gotten with Face ID. What am I missing to get past this first screen? Somewhat embarrassed,Pete De Vasto -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/037e01db18ef%2487898a70%24969c9f50%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/37039A3E-1F9F-4141-AD81-3D08AEED24B3%40gmail.com.

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