Re: page up and page down on the mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Simon,

FN-Up Arrow and FN-Down Arrow are indeed the equivalents to the Page Up and 
Page Down keys on an extended keyboard, but they do not move any cursors. They 
are purely visual effects and therefore useless to a VoiceOver user.
Adding the VO keys makes them move the VO cursor in applications such as Pages 
and TextEdit, but you have to be interacting with the text area.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 10 Mar 2017, at 09:19, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Candy,
> 
> When doing page up or page down, just use function key and up arrow or down 
> arrow on your keyboard,
> 
> The function key vo key combo with arrow up or down is what's causing your 
> ding 
> Drop the vo keys.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Candie Stiles
> Sent: Thursday, 9 March 2017 5:09 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: page up and page down on the mac
> 
> I am still having difficulty going up and down a page on the mac. For example 
> when I'm reading through a long email and want to move down by page, I press 
> the function key along with the vo keys and down arrow, and all I hear is a 
> beep and nothing happens. The left and right arrow keys will move the cursor 
> to home and end just fine. Does anyone know how I can solve this issue? It is 
> time consuming to move through a long email or document by lines. 
> 
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RE: page up and page down on the mac

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Candy,

 When doing page up or page down, just use function key and up arrow or down 
arrow on your keyboard,

 The function key vo key combo with arrow up or down is what's causing your 
ding 
Drop the vo keys.

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On Behalf Of Candie Stiles
Sent: Thursday, 9 March 2017 5:09 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: page up and page down on the mac

I am still having difficulty going up and down a page on the mac. For example 
when I'm reading through a long email and want to move down by page, I press 
the function key along with the vo keys and down arrow, and all I hear is a 
beep and nothing happens. The left and right arrow keys will move the cursor to 
home and end just fine. Does anyone know how I can solve this issue? It is time 
consuming to move through a long email or document by lines. 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: page up and page down on the mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Candie,

You need to interact with the text for the other options to appear in the rotor.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 9 Mar 2017, at 01:29, Candie Stiles  wrote:
> 
> I can't seem to find paragraphs in the roder. I see characters, words, and 
> navigation, but no paragraphs. I went to the voice over utility and looked 
> for it but didn't see it there either: How do you select paragraph in the 
> roder setting. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 8, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> 
>> Wow, since we started talking about pageUp/PageDown, I started trying to use 
>> it again. Usually I was using paragraph moves , read all or search 
>> functionality. I also noticing that in both El Capitan and Siera  that in 
>> most places where vo-pageDown and vo-PageUp just beep. 
>> 
>> Does anybody have an older system around so we could see how these behave?
>> 
>> Also curious if anybody has tried single modifier with PageUp/PageDown?
>> 
>> Best Wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> On 8 March 2017 at 11:33, Anne Robertson > > wrote:
>> Hello Candie,
>> 
>> The page up and page down commands don’t appear to work in emails. However, 
>> if you interact with the text, the other VO commands will work. With Quick 
>> Nav on, you can set the rotor to Paragraphs and only have to press the down 
>> arrow.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > On 8 Mar 2017, at 17:08, Candie Stiles > > > wrote:
>> >
>> > I am still having difficulty going up and down a page on the mac. For 
>> > example when I'm reading through a long email and want to move down by 
>> > page, I press the function key along with the vo keys and down arrow, and 
>> > all I hear is a beep and nothing happens. The left and right arrow keys 
>> > will move the cursor to home and end just fine. Does anyone know how I can 
>> > solve this issue? It is time consuming to move through a long email or 
>> > document by lines.
>> >
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Re: page up and page down on the mac

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Try using FN-VO-shift-down to read the next paragraph.  Depending on your 
keyboard settings, you may or may not need the FN key.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 8, 2017, at 17:29, Candie Stiles  wrote:

I can't seem to find paragraphs in the roder. I see characters, words, and 
navigation, but no paragraphs. I went to the voice over utility and looked for 
it but didn't see it there either: How do you select paragraph in the roder 
setting. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 8, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:

> Wow, since we started talking about pageUp/PageDown, I started trying to use 
> it again. Usually I was using paragraph moves , read all or search 
> functionality. I also noticing that in both El Capitan and Siera  that in 
> most places where vo-pageDown and vo-PageUp just beep. 
> 
> Does anybody have an older system around so we could see how these behave?
> 
> Also curious if anybody has tried single modifier with PageUp/PageDown?
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> On 8 March 2017 at 11:33, Anne Robertson  > wrote:
> Hello Candie,
> 
> The page up and page down commands don’t appear to work in emails. However, 
> if you interact with the text, the other VO commands will work. With Quick 
> Nav on, you can set the rotor to Paragraphs and only have to press the down 
> arrow.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
> > On 8 Mar 2017, at 17:08, Candie Stiles  > > wrote:
> >
> > I am still having difficulty going up and down a page on the mac. For 
> > example when I'm reading through a long email and want to move down by 
> > page, I press the function key along with the vo keys and down arrow, and 
> > all I hear is a beep and nothing happens. The left and right arrow keys 
> > will move the cursor to home and end just fine. Does anyone know how I can 
> > solve this issue? It is time consuming to move through a long email or 
> > document by lines.
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Re: page up and page down on the mac

[Candie Stiles]

I can't seem to find paragraphs in the roder. I see characters, words, and 
navigation, but no paragraphs. I went to the voice over utility and looked for 
it but didn't see it there either: How do you select paragraph in the roder 
setting. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 8, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Wow, since we started talking about pageUp/PageDown, I started trying to use 
> it again. Usually I was using paragraph moves , read all or search 
> functionality. I also noticing that in both El Capitan and Siera  that in 
> most places where vo-pageDown and vo-PageUp just beep. 
> 
> Does anybody have an older system around so we could see how these behave?
> 
> Also curious if anybody has tried single modifier with PageUp/PageDown?
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
>> On 8 March 2017 at 11:33, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> Hello Candie,
>> 
>> The page up and page down commands don’t appear to work in emails. However, 
>> if you interact with the text, the other VO commands will work. With Quick 
>> Nav on, you can set the rotor to Paragraphs and only have to press the down 
>> arrow.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > On 8 Mar 2017, at 17:08, Candie Stiles  wrote:
>> >
>> > I am still having difficulty going up and down a page on the mac. For 
>> > example when I'm reading through a long email and want to move down by 
>> > page, I press the function key along with the vo keys and down arrow, and 
>> > all I hear is a beep and nothing happens. The left and right arrow keys 
>> > will move the cursor to home and end just fine. Does anyone know how I can 
>> > solve this issue? It is time consuming to move through a long email or 
>> > document by lines.
>> >
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Re: page up and page down on the mac

[Jonathan Cohn]

Wow, since we started talking about pageUp/PageDown, I started trying to
use it again. Usually I was using paragraph moves , read all or search
functionality. I also noticing that in both El Capitan and Siera  that in
most places where vo-pageDown and vo-PageUp just beep.

Does anybody have an older system around so we could see how these behave?

Also curious if anybody has tried single modifier with PageUp/PageDown?

Best Wishes,

Jonathan Cohn


On 8 March 2017 at 11:33, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Candie,
>
> The page up and page down commands don’t appear to work in emails.
> However, if you interact with the text, the other VO commands will work.
> With Quick Nav on, you can set the rotor to Paragraphs and only have to
> press the down arrow.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
>
> > On 8 Mar 2017, at 17:08, Candie Stiles  wrote:
> >
> > I am still having difficulty going up and down a page on the mac. For
> example when I'm reading through a long email and want to move down by
> page, I press the function key along with the vo keys and down arrow, and
> all I hear is a beep and nothing happens. The left and right arrow keys
> will move the cursor to home and end just fine. Does anyone know how I can
> solve this issue? It is time consuming to move through a long email or
> document by lines.
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Re: page up and page down on the mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Candie,

The page up and page down commands don’t appear to work in emails. However, if 
you interact with the text, the other VO commands will work. With Quick Nav on, 
you can set the rotor to Paragraphs and only have to press the down arrow.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 8 Mar 2017, at 17:08, Candie Stiles  wrote:
> 
> I am still having difficulty going up and down a page on the mac. For example 
> when I'm reading through a long email and want to move down by page, I press 
> the function key along with the vo keys and down arrow, and all I hear is a 
> beep and nothing happens. The left and right arrow keys will move the cursor 
> to home and end just fine. Does anyone know how I can solve this issue? It is 
> time consuming to move through a long email or document by lines. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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page up and page down on the mac

[Candie Stiles]

I am still having difficulty going up and down a page on the mac. For example 
when I'm reading through a long email and want to move down by page, I press 
the function key along with the vo keys and down arrow, and all I hear is a 
beep and nothing happens. The left and right arrow keys will move the cursor to 
home and end just fine. Does anyone know how I can solve this issue? It is time 
consuming to move through a long email or document by lines. 

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