Re: requesting help with linux and VM Fusion on mac.

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Hi, Michael:

Michael Marshall writes:
> what linux do you use?

I've been a Fedora user since the days it was just called Red Hat. At
various times I have also had Debian machines. I currently also have
Arch on an old laptop, and have had a go at installing Arch in a VMware
vm.

> if you use ubuntu how do you cope with the Unity desktop view?
> i am having a play with ubuntu mate at the moment.


Well, this is one key reason why I don't do Ubuntu, though I believe I
briefly had an Ubuntu install about a decade ago.

I suppose knowing which choices to make on Linux is the top challenge
for a blind user. Unlike Microsoft and Apple were there's generally just
one desktop (and one terminal), Linux gives one choices at almost every
turn. There are choices in desktops, but only GNOME, and some of its
variants are accessible. There are also choices in how to manage the
sound environment which have accessibility consequences. Heck, there are
choices in how to manage the TCP/IP stack. Fortunately, the latter set
are generally accessible, whichever you choose, but knowing which
options bear which consequences is important to the level of success
and satisfaction you're likely to experience with Linux.

Myself, personally, I'm fortunate to have the kind of mindset that
prefers the command line to the graphical desktop environment. That's
just how I'm constituted. On Linux that's an advantage because the Linux
console, mediated by the screen terminal app is a perfect environment
for the Speakup screen reader. And, if you're a braille person, which I
am not, you won't find a better braille environment anywhere on any OS
than brltty.

Now, whether this kind of frame of reference would meet your needs is
another matter entirely. There are indeed blind Linux users who don't
bother with the console and simply use Orca on the GNOME desktop (or one
of its variants).

hth

Janina

> > On 19 Jan 2016, at 8:23 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Your Mac uses netbios to share its folders. This is why it's relatively
> > easier to share your host's file system in a Windows VMware guest
> > machine--netbios is natively a Microsoft way of doing such things.
> > 
> > You have two choices for access Mac hosted file systems under Linux
> > virtual machines:
> > 
> > 1.) Install and configure Samba in order to get netbios services
> > under Linux. This is a common application, and apt-get on your Ubuntu
> > machine will know about Samba.
> > 
> > 2.) Find, install and configure a NFS server on your Mac. NFS is the
> > preferred way to mount file systems hosted across a network under Linux,
> > and is easily configured on the Linux side of things. However, it's not
> > common on Mac to share using NFS.
> > 
> > 
> > PS: It's fairly easy to go the other way around with NFS. In other
> > words, it's fairly easy to read NFS exported file systems from a Linux
> > virtual host machine on the Mac host. In my situation I have my Airbook
> > configured to access files from my home office Linux servers using NFS.
> > 
> > The point here is that you're using network technology to mount remote
> > file systems--even though both machines are in the same physical box.
> > The communication between your Mac and your VMware virtual machines is
> > using TCP/IP.
> > 
> > hth
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > Michael Marshall writes:
> >> hey all,
> >> yesterday i at last got open VM tools installed on ubuntu mate v 15 so i 
> >> could hopefully share and mirror folders from the mac on my virtual 
> >> machine.
> >> even after installing open VM tools i could not find my shared folders, 
> >> nor could i see anything in any of the folders i wanted to mirror between 
> >> the two machines.
> >> is there something that i'm doing wrong? the installation of open VM tools 
> >> went exactly according to plan but that was as far as i got.
> >> I find this incredibly irritating and i'm out of ideas.
> >> i even tried this on the mane ubuntu distro without any luck.
> >> 
> >> thanks for any help
> >> 
> >> Michael
> >> 
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Re: requesting help with linux and VM Fusion on mac.

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

It's been a while since I did this but OSX has nfsd pre-installed and 
you only need to set it up. From my old notes I think I had to set up my 
exports file in /etc/exports (see man exports). I wanted to backup some 
mysql files from a Centos box to my mac so I had a drive on the Mac 
called Backup and just added


/Volumes/Backup -maproot=cblouch

cblouch was my username on both boxes. I then did an nfsd enable to 
start things up. From the linux side I did something like:


mount network_address_of_my_mac:/Volumes/Backup /root/backmount

where backmount was an existing folder in /root. To get rid of the mount 
I do umount backmount. After mounting I could then copy files at will 
from the Centos box to backmount and they would appear on the Backup 
drive on the Mac and vice versa.


CB

On 1/18/16 4:23 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Your Mac uses netbios to share its folders. This is why it's relatively
easier to share your host's file system in a Windows VMware guest
machine--netbios is natively a Microsoft way of doing such things.

You have two choices for access Mac hosted file systems under Linux
virtual machines:

1.) Install and configure Samba in order to get netbios services
under Linux. This is a common application, and apt-get on your Ubuntu
machine will know about Samba.

2.) Find, install and configure a NFS server on your Mac. NFS is the
preferred way to mount file systems hosted across a network under Linux,
and is easily configured on the Linux side of things. However, it's not
common on Mac to share using NFS.


PS: It's fairly easy to go the other way around with NFS. In other
words, it's fairly easy to read NFS exported file systems from a Linux
virtual host machine on the Mac host. In my situation I have my Airbook
configured to access files from my home office Linux servers using NFS.

The point here is that you're using network technology to mount remote
file systems--even though both machines are in the same physical box.
The communication between your Mac and your VMware virtual machines is
using TCP/IP.

hth

Janina

Michael Marshall writes:

hey all,
yesterday i at last got open VM tools installed on ubuntu mate v 15 so i could 
hopefully share and mirror folders from the mac on my virtual machine.
even after installing open VM tools i could not find my shared folders, nor 
could i see anything in any of the folders i wanted to mirror between the two 
machines.
is there something that i'm doing wrong? the installation of open VM tools went 
exactly according to plan but that was as far as i got.
I find this incredibly irritating and i'm out of ideas.
i even tried this on the mane ubuntu distro without any luck.

thanks for any help

Michael

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Re: requesting help with linux and VM Fusion on mac.

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks, Chris. This is very helpful.

Using my ssh session into my mac, I do:

which nfsd

And, get the result:

/sbin/nfsd

Bingo. There is indeed a daemon for serving up the Mac's file systems
via nfs. I'm obliged to you! 

Janina


'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries writes:
> It's been a while since I did this but OSX has nfsd pre-installed and you
> only need to set it up. From my old notes I think I had to set up my exports
> file in /etc/exports (see man exports). I wanted to backup some mysql files
> from a Centos box to my mac so I had a drive on the Mac called Backup and
> just added
> 
> /Volumes/Backup -maproot=cblouch
> 
> cblouch was my username on both boxes. I then did an nfsd enable to start
> things up. From the linux side I did something like:
> 
> mount network_address_of_my_mac:/Volumes/Backup /root/backmount
> 
> where backmount was an existing folder in /root. To get rid of the mount I
> do umount backmount. After mounting I could then copy files at will from the
> Centos box to backmount and they would appear on the Backup drive on the Mac
> and vice versa.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 1/18/16 4:23 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Your Mac uses netbios to share its folders. This is why it's relatively
> >easier to share your host's file system in a Windows VMware guest
> >machine--netbios is natively a Microsoft way of doing such things.
> >
> >You have two choices for access Mac hosted file systems under Linux
> >virtual machines:
> >
> >1.)  Install and configure Samba in order to get netbios services
> >under Linux. This is a common application, and apt-get on your Ubuntu
> >machine will know about Samba.
> >
> >2.)  Find, install and configure a NFS server on your Mac. NFS is the
> >preferred way to mount file systems hosted across a network under Linux,
> >and is easily configured on the Linux side of things. However, it's not
> >common on Mac to share using NFS.
> >
> >
> >PS: It's fairly easy to go the other way around with NFS. In other
> >words, it's fairly easy to read NFS exported file systems from a Linux
> >virtual host machine on the Mac host. In my situation I have my Airbook
> >configured to access files from my home office Linux servers using NFS.
> >
> >The point here is that you're using network technology to mount remote
> >file systems--even though both machines are in the same physical box.
> >The communication between your Mac and your VMware virtual machines is
> >using TCP/IP.
> >
> >hth
> >
> >Janina
> >
> >Michael Marshall writes:
> >>hey all,
> >>yesterday i at last got open VM tools installed on ubuntu mate v 15 so i 
> >>could hopefully share and mirror folders from the mac on my virtual machine.
> >>even after installing open VM tools i could not find my shared folders, nor 
> >>could i see anything in any of the folders i wanted to mirror between the 
> >>two machines.
> >>is there something that i'm doing wrong? the installation of open VM tools 
> >>went exactly according to plan but that was as far as i got.
> >>I find this incredibly irritating and i'm out of ideas.
> >>i even tried this on the mane ubuntu distro without any luck.
> >>
> >>thanks for any help
> >>
> >>Michael
> >>
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Re: requesting help with linux and VM Fusion on mac.

[Michael Marshall]

hey,
thanks for the info.
i was able to get the HGFS drivers workking in VM Fusion so that problem is 
solved thank god.
what linux do you use?
if you use ubuntu how do you cope with the Unity desktop view?
i am having a play with ubuntu mate at the moment.
> On 19 Jan 2016, at 8:23 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Your Mac uses netbios to share its folders. This is why it's relatively
> easier to share your host's file system in a Windows VMware guest
> machine--netbios is natively a Microsoft way of doing such things.
> 
> You have two choices for access Mac hosted file systems under Linux
> virtual machines:
> 
> 1.)   Install and configure Samba in order to get netbios services
> under Linux. This is a common application, and apt-get on your Ubuntu
> machine will know about Samba.
> 
> 2.)   Find, install and configure a NFS server on your Mac. NFS is the
> preferred way to mount file systems hosted across a network under Linux,
> and is easily configured on the Linux side of things. However, it's not
> common on Mac to share using NFS.
> 
> 
> PS: It's fairly easy to go the other way around with NFS. In other
> words, it's fairly easy to read NFS exported file systems from a Linux
> virtual host machine on the Mac host. In my situation I have my Airbook
> configured to access files from my home office Linux servers using NFS.
> 
> The point here is that you're using network technology to mount remote
> file systems--even though both machines are in the same physical box.
> The communication between your Mac and your VMware virtual machines is
> using TCP/IP.
> 
> hth
> 
> Janina
> 
> Michael Marshall writes:
>> hey all,
>> yesterday i at last got open VM tools installed on ubuntu mate v 15 so i 
>> could hopefully share and mirror folders from the mac on my virtual machine.
>> even after installing open VM tools i could not find my shared folders, nor 
>> could i see anything in any of the folders i wanted to mirror between the 
>> two machines.
>> is there something that i'm doing wrong? the installation of open VM tools 
>> went exactly according to plan but that was as far as i got.
>> I find this incredibly irritating and i'm out of ideas.
>> i even tried this on the mane ubuntu distro without any luck.
>> 
>> thanks for any help
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
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Re: requesting help with linux and VM Fusion on mac.

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Your Mac uses netbios to share its folders. This is why it's relatively
easier to share your host's file system in a Windows VMware guest
machine--netbios is natively a Microsoft way of doing such things.

You have two choices for access Mac hosted file systems under Linux
virtual machines:

1.) Install and configure Samba in order to get netbios services
under Linux. This is a common application, and apt-get on your Ubuntu
machine will know about Samba.

2.) Find, install and configure a NFS server on your Mac. NFS is the
preferred way to mount file systems hosted across a network under Linux,
and is easily configured on the Linux side of things. However, it's not
common on Mac to share using NFS.


PS: It's fairly easy to go the other way around with NFS. In other
words, it's fairly easy to read NFS exported file systems from a Linux
virtual host machine on the Mac host. In my situation I have my Airbook
configured to access files from my home office Linux servers using NFS.

The point here is that you're using network technology to mount remote
file systems--even though both machines are in the same physical box.
The communication between your Mac and your VMware virtual machines is
using TCP/IP.

hth

Janina

Michael Marshall writes:
> hey all,
> yesterday i at last got open VM tools installed on ubuntu mate v 15 so i 
> could hopefully share and mirror folders from the mac on my virtual machine.
> even after installing open VM tools i could not find my shared folders, nor 
> could i see anything in any of the folders i wanted to mirror between the two 
> machines.
> is there something that i'm doing wrong? the installation of open VM tools 
> went exactly according to plan but that was as far as i got.
> I find this incredibly irritating and i'm out of ideas.
> i even tried this on the mane ubuntu distro without any luck.
> 
> thanks for any help
> 
> Michael
> 
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requesting help with linux and VM Fusion on mac.

[Michael Marshall]

hey all,
yesterday i at last got open VM tools installed on ubuntu mate v 15 so i could 
hopefully share and mirror folders from the mac on my virtual machine.
even after installing open VM tools i could not find my shared folders, nor 
could i see anything in any of the folders i wanted to mirror between the two 
machines.
is there something that i'm doing wrong? the installation of open VM tools went 
exactly according to plan but that was as far as i got.
I find this incredibly irritating and i'm out of ideas.
i even tried this on the mane ubuntu distro without any luck.

thanks for any help

Michael

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