Re: Safari question

[Scott Granados]

Lol or Denzel Washington works in the Equalizer and beats up Russian bad guys 
with building supplies.

Good times, especially in IMAX.

I’m more of a Lowes man myself but the home Depot is a good place.  

Bringing this on topic they sell a lot of tech home goods now including the 
Nest line of devices and the August locks that work with the iPhone.  There’s a 
whole home tech section now, dangerous area to walk through though, your 
pockets end up lighter hanging out in that area to long. They also have a 
surprising amount of higher end network cable and outlets.

> On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:29 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hell, even I knew what the home depot was / is, and I've never been there and 
> we don't have it as a company in NZ,
> But it's in books and movies all the time, where else does a criminal go to 
> get there paint and other things to disgize the car they stole.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2016 4:15 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Safari question
> 
> hi,
> 
> Very interesting.  Cool how we live in our own little worlds.  There's no way 
> in the world that I thought an American resident would not be familiar with 
> the Home Depot.  I guess that it's a matter of prospective and what circles 
> we involve ourselves in.  Oh well, I digress.  Regarding the Home Depot US 
> site, you are totally correct in that it does seem to hang Safari once the 
> search results are attempting to be displayed.  The Home Depot Canadian 
> version is a little slow to load, but does work and is usable, but the US 
> version seems to hang indefinitely.  The two things that I'd suggest would be 
> first to try searching in Google instead.  That is, for example, if you were 
> looking for a freezer, type "freezer home depot" in your Google search field 
> and see if going in the back way makes a difference.  the second would be to 
> use the Home Depot app as previously suggested, if you do indeed have an iOS 
> device to do this on.  Otherwise, a call to the Home Depot web support people 
> may be in order.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jul 9, 2016, at 03:26, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> What type things are you searching for?  Given that I've never ever heard of 
> this site, it would be useful to know what type things to search for 
> specifically.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
> 
> clgillan...@gmail.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
> - Original Message - From: "Jim Gatteys" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 2:36 AM
> Subject: Safari question
> 
> 
> Hi all!
> I am still running Yosemite and I've noticed that when I go to one web site 
> in particular safari is really slow.
> It is the homedepot web site,
> http://www.homedepot.com
> There is a search box there that says what can we help you find and when I 
> enter text there it takes forever to do anything after that.  I just wondered 
> if somebody might go there and try to search for something to see if they get 
> the same results.  I might be forced to upgrade to El Capitan.
> :)
> 
> I've tried using google chrome and it works pretty well but I don't seem to 
> be able to do option-tab to go to the search field.  Maybe there is a setting 
> I need to take a look at.
> Thanks for any help.
> Jim
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Re: Safari question

[Tim Kilburn]

Canadian Tire :).

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 9, 2016, at 22:29, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hell, even I knew what the home depot was / is, and I've never been there and 
we don't have it as a company in NZ,
But it's in books and movies all the time, where else does a criminal go to get 
there paint and other things to disgize the car they stole.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2016 4:15 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Safari question

hi,

Very interesting.  Cool how we live in our own little worlds.  There's no way 
in the world that I thought an American resident would not be familiar with the 
Home Depot.  I guess that it's a matter of prospective and what circles we 
involve ourselves in.  Oh well, I digress.  Regarding the Home Depot US site, 
you are totally correct in that it does seem to hang Safari once the search 
results are attempting to be displayed.  The Home Depot Canadian version is a 
little slow to load, but does work and is usable, but the US version seems to 
hang indefinitely.  The two things that I'd suggest would be first to try 
searching in Google instead.  That is, for example, if you were looking for a 
freezer, type "freezer home depot" in your Google search field and see if going 
in the back way makes a difference.  the second would be to use the Home Depot 
app as previously suggested, if you do indeed have an iOS device to do this on. 
 Otherwise, a call to the Home Depot web support people may be in order.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 9, 2016, at 03:26, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

What type things are you searching for?  Given that I've never ever heard of 
this site, it would be useful to know what type things to search for 
specifically.
---
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JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - From: "Jim Gatteys" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 2:36 AM
Subject: Safari question


Hi all!
I am still running Yosemite and I've noticed that when I go to one web site in 
particular safari is really slow.
It is the homedepot web site,
http://www.homedepot.com
There is a search box there that says what can we help you find and when I 
enter text there it takes forever to do anything after that.  I just wondered 
if somebody might go there and try to search for something to see if they get 
the same results.  I might be forced to upgrade to El Capitan.
:)

I've tried using google chrome and it works pretty well but I don't seem to be 
able to do option-tab to go to the search field.  Maybe there is a setting I 
need to take a look at.
Thanks for any help.
Jim

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RE: Safari question

[Simon Fogarty]

Hell, even I knew what the home depot was / is, and I've never been there and 
we don't have it as a company in NZ,
But it's in books and movies all the time, where else does a criminal go to get 
there paint and other things to disgize the car they stole.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2016 4:15 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Safari question

hi,

Very interesting.  Cool how we live in our own little worlds.  There's no way 
in the world that I thought an American resident would not be familiar with the 
Home Depot.  I guess that it's a matter of prospective and what circles we 
involve ourselves in.  Oh well, I digress.  Regarding the Home Depot US site, 
you are totally correct in that it does seem to hang Safari once the search 
results are attempting to be displayed.  The Home Depot Canadian version is a 
little slow to load, but does work and is usable, but the US version seems to 
hang indefinitely.  The two things that I'd suggest would be first to try 
searching in Google instead.  That is, for example, if you were looking for a 
freezer, type "freezer home depot" in your Google search field and see if going 
in the back way makes a difference.  the second would be to use the Home Depot 
app as previously suggested, if you do indeed have an iOS device to do this on. 
 Otherwise, a call to the Home Depot web support people may be in order.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 9, 2016, at 03:26, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

What type things are you searching for?  Given that I've never ever heard of 
this site, it would be useful to know what type things to search for 
specifically.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - From: "Jim Gatteys" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 2:36 AM
Subject: Safari question


Hi all!
I am still running Yosemite and I've noticed that when I go to one web site in 
particular safari is really slow.
It is the homedepot web site,
http://www.homedepot.com
There is a search box there that says what can we help you find and when I 
enter text there it takes forever to do anything after that.  I just wondered 
if somebody might go there and try to search for something to see if they get 
the same results.  I might be forced to upgrade to El Capitan.
:)

I've tried using google chrome and it works pretty well but I don't seem to be 
able to do option-tab to go to the search field.  Maybe there is a setting I 
need to take a look at.
Thanks for any help.
Jim

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Re: Safari question

[Jim Gatteys]

Thanks Tim, glad it is just not me.  I'll contact them to see if they can do 
anything about it.
Jim

> On Jul 9, 2016, at 11:14 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> Very interesting.  Cool how we live in our own little worlds.  There's no way 
> in the world that I thought an American resident would not be familiar with 
> the Home Depot.  I guess that it's a matter of prospective and what circles 
> we involve ourselves in.  Oh well, I digress.  Regarding the Home Depot US 
> site, you are totally correct in that it does seem to hang Safari once the 
> search results are attempting to be displayed.  The Home Depot Canadian 
> version is a little slow to load, but does work and is usable, but the US 
> version seems to hang indefinitely.  The two things that I'd suggest would be 
> first to try searching in Google instead.  That is, for example, if you were 
> looking for a freezer, type "freezer home depot" in your Google search field 
> and see if going in the back way makes a difference.  the second would be to 
> use the Home Depot app as previously suggested, if you do indeed have an iOS 
> device to do this on.  Otherwise, a call to the Home Depot web support people 
> may be in order.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jul 9, 2016, at 03:26, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> What type things are you searching for?  Given that I've never ever heard of 
> this site, it would be useful to know what type things to search for 
> specifically.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
> 
> clgillan...@gmail.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
> - Original Message - From: "Jim Gatteys" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 2:36 AM
> Subject: Safari question
> 
> 
> Hi all!
> I am still running Yosemite and I've noticed that when I go to one web site 
> in particular safari is really slow.
> It is the homedepot web site,
> http://www.homedepot.com
> There is a search box there that says what can we help you find and when I 
> enter text there it takes forever to do anything after that.  I just wondered 
> if somebody might go there and try to search for something to see if they get 
> the same results.  I might be forced to upgrade to El Capitan.
> :)
> 
> I've tried using google chrome and it works pretty well but I don't seem to 
> be able to do option-tab to go to the search field.  Maybe there is a setting 
> I need to take a look at.
> Thanks for any help.
> Jim
> 
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Re: Safari question

[Blee Blat]

Better would be putting something like this in your friendly search engine 
site:homedepot.com stuff you're looking for

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Re: Safari question

[Tim Kilburn]

hi,

Very interesting.  Cool how we live in our own little worlds.  There's no way 
in the world that I thought an American resident would not be familiar with the 
Home Depot.  I guess that it's a matter of prospective and what circles we 
involve ourselves in.  Oh well, I digress.  Regarding the Home Depot US site, 
you are totally correct in that it does seem to hang Safari once the search 
results are attempting to be displayed.  The Home Depot Canadian version is a 
little slow to load, but does work and is usable, but the US version seems to 
hang indefinitely.  The two things that I'd suggest would be first to try 
searching in Google instead.  That is, for example, if you were looking for a 
freezer, type "freezer home depot" in your Google search field and see if going 
in the back way makes a difference.  the second would be to use the Home Depot 
app as previously suggested, if you do indeed have an iOS device to do this on. 
 Otherwise, a call to the Home Depot web support people may be in order.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 9, 2016, at 03:26, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

What type things are you searching for?  Given that I've never ever heard of 
this site, it would be useful to know what type things to search for 
specifically.
---
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JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - From: "Jim Gatteys" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 2:36 AM
Subject: Safari question


Hi all!
I am still running Yosemite and I've noticed that when I go to one web site in 
particular safari is really slow.
It is the homedepot web site,
http://www.homedepot.com
There is a search box there that says what can we help you find and when I 
enter text there it takes forever to do anything after that.  I just wondered 
if somebody might go there and try to search for something to see if they get 
the same results.  I might be forced to upgrade to El Capitan.
:)

I've tried using google chrome and it works pretty well but I don't seem to be 
able to do option-tab to go to the search field.  Maybe there is a setting I 
need to take a look at.
Thanks for any help.
Jim

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Re: Safari question

[Ken brown]

I know you were asking about Safari, but Home Depot has an app which is 
accessible and will let you do a search on your phone and is is very quick.
> On Jul 9, 2016, at 1:36 AM, Jim Gatteys  wrote:
> 
> Hi all!
> I am still running Yosemite and I've noticed that when I go to one web site 
> in particular safari is really slow.
> It is the homedepot web site,
> http://www.homedepot.com
> There is a search box there that says what can we help you find and when I 
> enter text there it takes forever to do anything after that.  I just wondered 
> if somebody might go there and try to search for something to see if they get 
> the same results.  I might be forced to upgrade to El Capitan.
> :)
> 
> I've tried using google chrome and it works pretty well but I don't seem to 
> be able to do option-tab to go to the search field.  Maybe there is a setting 
> I need to take a look at.
> Thanks for any help.
> Jim
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Re: Safari question

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

What type things are you searching for?  Given that I've never ever heard of 
this site, it would be useful to know what type things to search for 
specifically.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Gatteys" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 2:36 AM
Subject: Safari question


Hi all!
I am still running Yosemite and I've noticed that when I go to one web site 
in particular safari is really slow.

It is the homedepot web site,
http://www.homedepot.com
There is a search box there that says what can we help you find and when I 
enter text there it takes forever to do anything after that.  I just 
wondered if somebody might go there and try to search for something to see 
if they get the same results.  I might be forced to upgrade to El Capitan.

:)

I've tried using google chrome and it works pretty well but I don't seem to 
be able to do option-tab to go to the search field.  Maybe there is a 
setting I need to take a look at.

Thanks for any help.
Jim

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Safari question

[Jim Gatteys]

Hi all!
I am still running Yosemite and I've noticed that when I go to one web site in 
particular safari is really slow.
It is the homedepot web site,
http://www.homedepot.com
There is a search box there that says what can we help you find and when I 
enter text there it takes forever to do anything after that.  I just wondered 
if somebody might go there and try to search for something to see if they get 
the same results.  I might be forced to upgrade to El Capitan.
:)

I've tried using google chrome and it works pretty well but I don't seem to be 
able to do option-tab to go to the search field.  Maybe there is a setting I 
need to take a look at.
Thanks for any help.
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Re: bookmarks in safari question

[Vaughn Brown]

Hi Brian,

You can do this but high ligting the bookmark then pressing
VO+Shift+M, there you should be able to find delete.
Vaughn

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bookmarks in safari question

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Hello all,
How do I go about deleting bookmarks I have saved in safari?  Thanks for the 
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Re: yosemite safari question

[don bishop]

Thanks Alex, that really helps.

Don  


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Date: Monday, March 30, 2015 7:57 pm
Subject: Re: yosemite safari question

>
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> Use either cmd-up (new in Yosemite) or vo-home. On a laptop, that second one 
> is vo-fn-left. You may need to add shift to it, too; shift takes you to the 
> top, no shift takes you to the visible top. I don't normally notice a 
> difference, but if one fails to do what you're after, try the other. All that 
> said, cmd-up should work just fine.
> > On Mar 30, 2015, at 10:52 PM, don bishop  wrote:
> > 
> > I should know this, but honestly I don't. When in safari and down a page, 
> > like the middle for example, how do you quickly jump to the top of the page 
> > using vo? 
> > 
> > thanks,
> > Don
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> Use either cmd-up (new in Yosemite) or vo-home. On a laptop, that second one 
> is vo-fn-left.. You may need to add shift to it, too; shift takes you to the 
> top, no shift takes you to the visible top. I don't normally notice a 
> difference, but if one fails to do what you're after, try the other. All that 
> said, cmd-up should work just fine.
> 
> On Mar 30, 2015, at 10:52 PM, don bishop  wrote:
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> 
> I should know this, but honestly I don't. When in safari and down a page, 
> like the middle for example, how do you quickly jump to the top of the page 
> using vo? 
> 
> thanks,
> Don
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Re: yosemite safari question

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Either ctrl+Home, or if you don't have a physical home key on your keyboard, 
then it's fn+VO+left arrow.  Make sure that you're interacting with the html 
content first, or it wont' work as expected.


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I should know this, but honestly I don't. When in safari and down a page, 
like the middle for example, how do you quickly jump to the top of the page 
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Re: yosemite safari question

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Use either cmd-up (new in Yosemite) or vo-home. On a laptop, that second one is 
vo-fn-left. You may need to add shift to it, too; shift takes you to the top, 
no shift takes you to the visible top. I don't normally notice a difference, 
but if one fails to do what you're after, try the other. All that said, cmd-up 
should work just fine.
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> I should know this, but honestly I don't. When in safari and down a page, 
> like the middle for example, how do you quickly jump to the top of the page 
> using vo? 
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yosemite safari question

[don bishop]

I should know this, but honestly I don't. When in safari and down a page, like 
the middle for example, how do you quickly jump to the top of the page using 
vo? 

thanks,
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Re: iCloud and Safari question

[Jessica D]

It will sync your bookmarks and favorite across devices.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hello all, I pretty much have most items checked in the iCloud settings list 
> both on my Mac and my iphone.
> The question is, if I check the Safari check box on mac and iphone what will 
> iCloud do for me once this happens?
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> Thanks and I’ll look forward to understanding the answer.
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iCloud and Safari question

[Daniel McGee]

Hello all, I pretty much have most items checked in the iCloud settings list 
both on my Mac and my iphone.
The question is, if I check the Safari check box on mac and iphone what will 
iCloud do for me once this happens?

Thanks and I’ll look forward to understanding the answer.

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Re: Safari question

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

In case David’s message doesn’t read the punctuation to you, it is command-left 
brace.  This is the key just to the right of the letter “p”.  These sort of 
shortcuts can also be found within the menubar in the History menu.  Note that 
all regular keyboard shortcuts available to the sighted user are also available 
to you as a VO user so take some time to explore the menu items and their 
corresponding keyboard shortcut and this could make things easier for your web 
navigation.

Later…

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> Press command-[
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>> Good morning. Haven’t quite gotten things sound wise the way I want them, 
>> but getting closer because of your help. Thanks. Have a simple question. 
>> When in Safari, if I am interacting with the HTML and links, how do I get 
>> back to the previous page I was on or my home page? Have the prefs to work 
>> links with the tab key. Tried going into menu. Maybe if I ask for the 
>> toolbar, but not sure of command for that, VO something? Thanks.
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Re: Safari question

[Daniel Hawkins]

As David said cmd [. That can be found under the delete key. If you start from 
the right under the delete key and go left by three keys, that is [. If you hit 
cmd ] that will go forward. this key combination can be used under finder too.
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> Press command-[
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
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>> Good morning. Haven’t quite gotten things sound wise the way I want them, 
>> but getting closer because of your help. Thanks. Have a simple question. 
>> When in Safari, if I am interacting with the HTML and links, how do I get 
>> back to the previous page I was on or my home page? Have the prefs to work 
>> links with the tab key. Tried going into menu. Maybe if I ask for the 
>> toolbar, but not sure of command for that, VO something? Thanks.
>> Reggie and Allegra
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Safari question

[regina alvarado]

Good morning. Haven’t quite gotten things sound wise the way I want them, but 
getting closer because of your help. Thanks. Have a simple question. When in 
Safari, if I am interacting with the HTML and links, how do I get back to the 
previous page I was on or my home page? Have the prefs to work links with the 
tab key. Tried going into menu. Maybe if I ask for the toolbar, but not sure of 
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Re: Safari question

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Press command-[

Cheers
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> getting closer because of your help. Thanks. Have a simple question. When in 
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> previous page I was on or my home page? Have the prefs to work links with the 
> tab key. Tried going into menu. Maybe if I ask for the toolbar, but not sure 
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Re: safari question

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Hi don in the general pain of safari preferences there’s, a pop up button new 
windows open with topsides and other items, and one of the options, is home 
page popup and that’s the one you want to select, 
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> Hi again,
> 
> This time a Safari question with Mavericks.  
> When I was running Mountain Lion and started Safari, it would come up with my 
> home page displaying.  Now, under Mavericks, Safari just opens on the tool 
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safari question

[don bishop]

Hi again,

This time a Safari question with Mavericks.  
When I was running Mountain Lion and started Safari, it would come up with my 
home page displaying.  Now, under Mavericks, Safari just opens on the tool bar. 
 Is there a setting I can change to get the display of home page back again?
Thanks,
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Re: Safari question:

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You can check the mail archives under my name for more details but the 
short answer is that Adobe has chosen not to support using Flash with 
voiceover. Flash has been problematic on all platforms but it is pretty 
much unusable on OSX. Some flash widgets provide external HTML controls 
such as video players but if you are being presented curriculum inside a 
flash box then you're not going to get very far. Flash also fails on 
most mobile devices as well and is entirely proprietary (as opposed to 
web standards) so it's slowly going away, but apparently this vendor has 
not noticed yet.


CB

On 9/5/12 8:44 PM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:

Hi all,

i just intered a online  school for the first time. i wanted to know 
 how would one navigate  the website using voice over? when  the 
website has to use  falsh player? there are  items on the  website 
that are  electronic based for instance, the flash cards on the 
 website  to study from are  electronic. i can sign into the website 
however,  accessing the  materials on the website is somewhat 
difficult at the moment. i have 15 days from the day of purchasing the 
 class  to  get my full refund back. but before i go ahead and do that 
i would like to see if there were another  way for me to access the 
materials on the website?

if anypme could help me on this one i would most appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

On 05/09/2012, at 18:19, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 wrote:



Today's Topic Summary

Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics

  * Logitech Media Server <#group_thread_0> [2 Updates]
  * app backups with Carbonite? <#group_thread_1> [1 Update]
  * Skype keeps crashing when using dial pad in a call
<#group_thread_2> [1 Update]
  * installing extensions in Safari <#group_thread_3> [1 Update]
  * enquiring anne's assistance with a mac problem: <#group_thread_4>
[1 Update]
  * help pls with streaming music to airport express with voiceover
on <#group_thread_5> [1 Update]
  * Updating Adobe Flash Player <#group_thread_6> [2 Updates]
  * Bard download Question <#group_thread_7> [1 Update]
  * iPhone again <#group_thread_8> [1 Update]
  * iPhone <#group_thread_9> [5 Updates]
  * Using Eclipse on the Mac <#group_thread_10> [1 Update]

Logitech Media Server 



Emrah mailto:li...@kavun.ch>> Sep 05 05:33PM -0400

BTW you can set the classic mode as default.

Marc Sutton mailto:marc...@gmail.com>> Sep 05
02:53PM -0700

Yes, I was able to do this once I found out how to get it into
that mode initially. It's working great now. Thanks.
Marc

app backups with Carbonite? 



agent086b mailto:agent0...@bigpond.com>>
Sep 06 07:41AM +1000

Sorry can't help. If you get an answer can you post it here as I
need to
know also.
Also how did you get Carbonite? I looked on the Mac App store
with no luck.
Max.
 Original Message 
Subject: app backups with Carbonite?
From: Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@gmail.com>>
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 07:02:52 -0400

Skype keeps crashing when using dial pad in a call 



Shawn Krasniuk mailto:bigbigshawn@gmail.com>> Sep 05 04:38PM -0500

Hi guys. I've noticed this a few weeks ago when I bought my Skype
credit but didn't do anything because I thought it wouldn't crash
so much. But now that it's crashing more, this is ridiculous.
Skype keeps crashing when I use the dialpad in a call. For
example, I use Skype to call my bank. When I press the number 1
to check my balance and everything, Skype crashes. Has anyone
else experienced this?

Shawn
Sent from my white Mac Book

installing extensions in Safari 



Donna Goodin mailto:doniado...@me.com>> Sep
05 04:22PM -0500

Hi all,

I just tried to install an extension in Safari. Somehow I screwed
it up, because after that, Safari would give me the busy message
every time I pressed a key. Happily, I hadn't yet installed the
latest update to ML, and when I did that, the problem went away.
So, can someone enlighten me as to the correct way to install an
extension?
thanks in advance,
Donna

enquiring anne's assistance with a mac problem: 



Chenelle Hancock mailto:filmchenelle1...@gmail.com>> Sep 05 04:46PM -0400

Hi Anne,

It's chenelle, I am in need of some assistance with accessing
materials off of a school website using voice over? with adobie
acrobat reader. i was 

Safari question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all,

i just intered a online  school for the first time. i wanted to know  how would 
one navigate  the website using voice over? when  the website has to use  falsh 
player? there are  items on the  website that are  electronic based for 
instance, the flash cards on the  website  to study from are  electronic. i can 
sign into the website however,  accessing the  materials on the website is 
somewhat difficult at the moment. i have 15 days from the day of purchasing the 
 class  to  get my full refund back. but before i go ahead and do that i would 
like to see if there were another  way for me to access the materials on the 
website?
if anypme could help me on this one i would most appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

On 05/09/2012, at 18:19, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Logitech Media Server [2 Updates]
> app backups with Carbonite? [1 Update]
> Skype keeps crashing when using dial pad in a call [1 Update]
> installing extensions in Safari [1 Update]
> enquiring anne's assistance with a mac problem: [1 Update]
> help pls with streaming music to airport express with voiceover on [1 Update]
> Updating Adobe Flash Player [2 Updates]
> Bard download Question [1 Update]
> iPhone again [1 Update]
> iPhone [5 Updates]
> Using Eclipse on the Mac [1 Update]
>  Logitech Media Server
> Emrah  Sep 05 05:33PM -0400  
> 
> BTW you can set the classic mode as default.
>  
> 
> Marc Sutton  Sep 05 02:53PM -0700  
> 
> Yes, I was able to do this once I found out how to get it into that mode 
> initially. It's working great now. Thanks.
> Marc
>  
>  
> 
>  app backups with Carbonite?
> agent086b  Sep 06 07:41AM +1000  
> 
> Sorry can't help. If you get an answer can you post it here as I need to 
> know also.
> Also how did you get Carbonite? I looked on the Mac App store with no luck.
> Max.
>  Original Message 
> Subject: app backups with Carbonite?
> From: Alex Hall 
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 07:02:52 -0400
>  
> 
>  Skype keeps crashing when using dial pad in a call
> Shawn Krasniuk  Sep 05 04:38PM -0500  
> 
> Hi guys. I've noticed this a few weeks ago when I bought my Skype credit but 
> didn't do anything because I thought it wouldn't crash so much. But now that 
> it's crashing more, this is ridiculous. Skype keeps crashing when I use the 
> dialpad in a call. For example, I use Skype to call my bank. When I press the 
> number 1 to check my balance and everything, Skype crashes. Has anyone else 
> experienced this?
>  
> Shawn
> Sent from my white Mac Book
>  
> 
>  installing extensions in Safari
> Donna Goodin  Sep 05 04:22PM -0500  
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I just tried to install an extension in Safari. Somehow I screwed it up, 
> because after that, Safari would give me the busy message every time I 
> pressed a key. Happily, I hadn't yet installed the latest update to ML, and 
> when I did that, the problem went away. So, can someone enlighten me as to 
> the correct way to install an extension?
> thanks in advance,
> Donna
>  
> 
>  enquiring anne's assistance with a mac problem:
> Chenelle Hancock  Sep 05 04:46PM -0400  
> 
> Hi Anne,
>  
> It's chenelle, I am in need of some assistance with accessing materials off 
> of a school website using voice over? with adobie acrobat reader. i was 
> wondering if you could possibly email me off list.
> my email address is: filmchenelle1...@gmail.com
> i really appreciate your assistancew in this very important matter.
> sincerely, chenelle
> p.s. i will email you with further details off list.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
>  help pls with streaming music to airport express with voiceover on
> William Windels  Sep 05 10:33PM +0200  
> 
> Hello,
> I had problems with streaming music to me airport express.
> The music was streaming from my macbook air with osx 10.8.1 with iTunes 
> 10.6.3 and airport express version 7.6.1.
> The problem: there where regularly interruptions in the played music.
> This wasn't happening when voiceover wasn't on (and not only when voiceover 
> wasn't speaking).
>  
> So, on the macbook air, with voiceover off : no problems but when I turned 
> voiceover on, there where breaks in the stream.
>  
>  
> Streaming from the iphone4/ipad2 was also fine.
>  
>  
> Does this make sense?
>  
> any hints are very welcome.
> Kind regards,
> William
>  
> 
>  Updating Adobe Flash Player
> Mary Scott  Sep 05 03:23PM -0400  
> 
> I need to update my flash player How do I do this?
>  
> 
> Chris Bruinenberg  Sep 05 12:44PM -0700  
> 
> in safari, there will be an adobe flash updater that will pop up.
> I think you could also go under system and flash player.
>  
>  
>  
> Sent from my macbook pro.
> Chris Bruinenberg
>  
>  
>  
> 
>  Bard download Question
> Robert Hill  Sep 05 03:41PM -0400  
> 
> What worked for me is not to have Safari open the downloaded file.
> Th

Re: safari question please shortcut

[Carlene Knight]

Not a dumb question at all. Use command plus left or right bracket. They are 
right next to the P key.

Sent from my iPad

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> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
> stores.
> 
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Lisette Wesseling  
> wrote:
> 
>> Command left arrow.
>> On 10/08/2012, at 6:51 PM, Egbert  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> in lion i could give a backspace to go a page back in safari.
>>> but that key seems not to work anymore.
>>> i can backspace what i like, but no page back at all smiley.
>>> its kind of frustrating.
>>> Can you tell me what i do wrong and what to do to go a page back in 
>>> mountain lion in safari?
>>> thanx Egbert 
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Re: safari question please shortcut

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or comand [

Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
stores.

On Aug 10, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Lisette Wesseling  
wrote:

> Command left arrow.
> On 10/08/2012, at 6:51 PM, Egbert  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> in lion i could give a backspace to go a page back in safari.
>> but that key seems not to work anymore.
>> i can backspace what i like, but no page back at all smiley.
>> its kind of frustrating.
>> Can you tell me what i do wrong and what to do to go a page back in mountain 
>> lion in safari?
>> thanx Egbert 
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Re: safari question please shortcut

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Left bracket is the shortcut to go back.

Kawal.

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> Hi,
> in lion i could give a backspace to go a page back in safari.
> but that key seems not to work anymore.
> i can backspace what i like, but no page back at all smiley.
> its kind of frustrating.
> Can you tell me what i do wrong and what to do to go a page back in mountain 
> lion in safari?
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Re: safari question please shortcut

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Command left arrow.
On 10/08/2012, at 6:51 PM, Egbert  wrote:

> Hi,
> in lion i could give a backspace to go a page back in safari.
> but that key seems not to work anymore.
> i can backspace what i like, but no page back at all smiley.
> its kind of frustrating.
> Can you tell me what i do wrong and what to do to go a page back in mountain 
> lion in safari?
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[Egbert]

Hi,
in lion i could give a backspace to go a page back in safari.
but that key seems not to work anymore.
i can backspace what i like, but no page back at all smiley.
its kind of frustrating.
Can you tell me what i do wrong and what to do to go a page back in mountain 
lion in safari?
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Re: safari question re heading navigation

[CJ Daniel]

Lisette,

As previously mentioned, the solution seems to lay in restarting VO &/or 
occasionally Safari as well.  This would seem to indicate a problem with VO 
loosing track of the big picture.  It is annoying, as well as a few other bugs 
in Apple's accessible approach.  But, it is cool to walk in to Best Buy & start 
playing with the Macs, just like anyone else.  So, for now, I'll go along, to 
get along.  Try Command-F5 On & off to let VO re-initialize it's little brain & 
see how that works,

Hope this helps,

CJ


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> Hi 
> I wonder if anybody can explain why, very often, safari reports there are no 
> next headings to be found, but when I continue to arrow right using quick 
> nav, I hear all sorts of headings listed. I thought that by pressing h, or 
> the number, it would jump to the next heading. 
> Sometimes, it works fine, and other times it doesn't. I presume it is 
> something to do with the way a website is coded, but I don't understand why 
> Safari does report them as you arrow along the page, but not when trying to 
> jump to them. As I say, in some sites it works fine, and in others it 
> doesn't. 
> I don't know what mode I am in, or how to change this. Would this make a 
> difference? I still have so much to learn.
> 
> Lisette
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Re: safari question re heading navigation

[Jürgen Fleger]

That's an issue of VO, I suppose. Here it happens regularly. Sometimes it helps 
just to restart VoiceOver and sometimes it's useful to restart Safari. 

What for me is quite annoying in this context: it happens also in iTunes. VO 
even jumps back to the first header of the store page even though there are mor 
headlines. Already reported it to the support but no changes during last few 
new versions of iTunes.

All the best
Jürgen

Am 08.07.2012 um 14:41 schrieb Dawn Johnson:

> Hello Lisette,
> 
> I think that it has to do with the lay out of the web page. We have found 
> that if the headers do not show up in VO-U, then we try VO-I and you can find 
> details there.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jul 8, 2012, at 5:31 AM, Lisette Wesseling  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi 
>> I wonder if anybody can explain why, very often, safari reports there are no 
>> next headings to be found, but when I continue to arrow right using quick 
>> nav, I hear all sorts of headings listed. I thought that by pressing h, or 
>> the number, it would jump to the next heading. 
>> Sometimes, it works fine, and other times it doesn't. I presume it is 
>> something to do with the way a website is coded, but I don't understand why 
>> Safari does report them as you arrow along the page, but not when trying to 
>> jump to them. As I say, in some sites it works fine, and in others it 
>> doesn't. 
>> I don't know what mode I am in, or how to change this. Would this make a 
>> difference? I still have so much to learn.
>> 
>> Lisette
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Re: safari question re heading navigation

[Dawn Johnson]

Hello Lisette,

I think that it has to do with the lay out of the web page. We have found that 
if the headers do not show up in VO-U, then we try VO-I and you can find 
details there.

Sent from my iPad

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wrote:

> Hi 
> I wonder if anybody can explain why, very often, safari reports there are no 
> next headings to be found, but when I continue to arrow right using quick 
> nav, I hear all sorts of headings listed. I thought that by pressing h, or 
> the number, it would jump to the next heading. 
> Sometimes, it works fine, and other times it doesn't. I presume it is 
> something to do with the way a website is coded, but I don't understand why 
> Safari does report them as you arrow along the page, but not when trying to 
> jump to them. As I say, in some sites it works fine, and in others it 
> doesn't. 
> I don't know what mode I am in, or how to change this. Would this make a 
> difference? I still have so much to learn.
> 
> Lisette
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safari question re heading navigation

[Lisette Wesseling]

Hi 
I wonder if anybody can explain why, very often, safari reports there are no 
next headings to be found, but when I continue to arrow right using quick nav, 
I hear all sorts of headings listed. I thought that by pressing h, or the 
number, it would jump to the next heading. 
Sometimes, it works fine, and other times it doesn't. I presume it is something 
to do with the way a website is coded, but I don't understand why Safari does 
report them as you arrow along the page, but not when trying to jump to them. 
As I say, in some sites it works fine, and in others it doesn't. 
I don't know what mode I am in, or how to change this. Would this make a 
difference? I still have so much to learn.

Lisette

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Re: reading in text editing and safari question

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Banu,

Often, the pauses when reading are due to new line characters. You can get rid 
of the noises by opening VoiceOver Utility, going to the Verbosity category, 
Text, and selecting DO Nothing for When text attributes change, When 
encountering a misspelled word and ,When encountering a link. This should help.

As for your Safari problem, have you accidentally turned cursor tracking off? 
VO-Shift-F3 toggles this action.

Cheers,

Anne

On 26 Nov 2011, at 10:51, Banu Buyukcingil wrote:

> hi all
> my first question is about textediting. I try to read an e-book on mac 
> which is in txt format.   ıt pauses almost every phrase or word. is there an 
> adjustment of it? it pauses and play tone.  how can I read my  scanned books? 
> or should I use an application for it? my books are in  doc or txt format.
> and second  question is about safari. I did something wrong. when I want to 
> click a link it doesn't work with vo keys  space or  tapping twice on touch 
> ped.  how can I   get it normal? 
> thanks in advance.
> CKR
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reading in text editing and safari question

[Banu Buyukcingil]

hi all
my first question is about textediting. I try to read an e-book on mac 
which is in txt format.   ıt pauses almost every phrase or word. is there an 
adjustment of it? it pauses and play tone.  how can I read my  scanned books? 
or should I use an application for it? my books are in  doc or txt format. 
and second  question is about safari. I did something wrong. when I want to 
click a link it doesn't work with vo keys  space or  tapping twice on touch 
ped.  how can I   get it normal?  
thanks in advance.
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Re: safari question in lion

[Ricardo Walker]

Right,

Now downloads is like a pop up.  When your downloading something, stop 
interacting with the html content and go to the toolbar and interact.  You will 
find the download button in here.  Press it and the familiar downloads window 
will appear.  I've set a hot spot on the download button to get to it quicker.

hth
On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> I don't think so.  They've seemed to totally revamp the downloads window, and 
> frankly, I don't exactly like what they've done with it.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Kimberly thurman" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:54 PM
> Subject: Re: safari question in lion
> 
> 
>> Doesn't command/option/L while in Safari to get to the downloads list work 
>> in Lion?  I haven't updated yet.  I'm taking the wait and see approach. :)
>> On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>> 
>>> To get to the downloads in Safari, go to the Google search box with 
>>> Cmd-Option-f then VO-Right arrow once and you're on the Downloads button.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 20 Jul 2011, at 21:53, chad baker wrote:
>>> 
>>>> hi does anyone know where the download progress is in safari when 
>>>> downloading something
>>>> can't find it
>>>> thanks
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Re: safari question in lion

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I don't think so.  They've seemed to totally revamp the downloads window, 
and frankly, I don't exactly like what they've done with it.


Chris.

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From: "Kimberly thurman" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: safari question in lion


Doesn't command/option/L while in Safari to get to the downloads list work 
in Lion?  I haven't updated yet.  I'm taking the wait and see approach. 
:)

On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

To get to the downloads in Safari, go to the Google search box with 
Cmd-Option-f then VO-Right arrow once and you're on the Downloads button.


Cheers,

Anne


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hi does anyone know where the download progress is in safari when 
downloading something

can't find it
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Re: safari question in lion

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

oh, so they did away with the downloads window popping up in a second 
window?


Chris.

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Subject: Re: safari question in lion


   When you are downloading something, you need to stop interacting with 
the html area.  You find find a downloads button.  There might be a 
keyboard shortcut as well, but I am not sure.


Take Care

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can't find it
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Re: safari question in lion

[Kimberly thurman]

Doesn't command/option/L while in Safari to get to the downloads list work in 
Lion?  I haven't updated yet.  I'm taking the wait and see approach.  :)
On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> To get to the downloads in Safari, go to the Google search box with 
> Cmd-Option-f then VO-Right arrow once and you're on the Downloads button.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 20 Jul 2011, at 21:53, chad baker wrote:
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>> downloading something
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Re: safari question in lion

[Anne Robertson]

To get to the downloads in Safari, go to the Google search box with 
Cmd-Option-f then VO-Right arrow once and you're on the Downloads button.

Cheers,

Anne


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Re: safari question in lion

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When you are downloading something, you need to stop interacting with the 
html area.  You find find a downloads button.  There might be a keyboard 
shortcut as well, but I am not sure.

Take Care

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[chad baker]

hi does anyone know where the download progress is in safari when downloading 
something
can't find it
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Re: Tables in Safari Question

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
How do you tell which checkbox corresponds with which column or row?
On Apr 7, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:

> Dear Sara,
> 
> I have encountered these tables taking customer surveys for Chase's online  
> banking system.  It is cumbersome.  What I have found helpful is the FIND 
> NEXT CONTROL command vo-command-j.  this takes me to all the check boxes one 
> at a time.  The other command is vo-F3.  this command describes the   item in 
> the voice over cursor.  In this case  whether or not the check box is checked 
> or not.  I hope this helps.
> Sincerely Yours,
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Re: Tables in Safari Question

[William Windels]

Hello Sarai,
I don't know what you exactly mean but:
like you shave suggested, in group mode , it's mostly more easy to navigate 
tables in safari.
And what about the checkboxes: there is a way in voiceover to search for: or 
the same elementtype like the active element (control+option+command+s) or just 
not the same (control+option+command+d).
Perhaps this can help.

Good luck,
William  
Op 8-apr-2011, om 02:43 heeft Sarai Bucciarelli het volgende geschreven:

> All:
> I could use help. I do these survays, and they are layed out in tables. You 
> have a table with several columns, and you have to select your answers. For 
> example: 
> How often do you use the following products? Then you have a table with 
> several columns. Column 1 will have a list of products in each row, I.E. 
> tooth brush would be row 1, column 1. Makeup would be row 2, column 1, 
> dogfood row 3, column 1. The other columns would have titles like daily, once 
> a week, once a month, never. Each row in these columns would have check boxes 
> or radio buttons, and you check the box corosponding to each product.
> With Jaws, I'd press alt control right arrow, and alt control up and down to 
> navigate by columns and rows. I could check the appropriat check boxes. 
> I'm having problems on the Mac. I've tried this in DOM, and Group navigation 
> mode. I can navigate the tables, read each column and row header; however I 
> cannot check the checkboxes/radio buttons. The other rows appear blank; 
> however if I press vo u to bring up a list of input controls, I see a bunch 
> of check boxes, or radio buttons, so they are on the page. Any help would be 
> appreciated.
> 
> 
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Re: Tables in Safari Question

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Sarai,

When I've encountered these sorts of tables, I've often had to Interact With 
the specific cell to activate the radio button.  Toyota sends me surveys 
occasionally and they work in the manner you're speaking of.  Just navigating 
across the cells does not tell you that there is a radio button or checkbox, 
but Interacting With it usually does the trick.

HTH.

Later...

On 2011-04-07, at 6:43 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

> Sarai

Tim Kilburn
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Re: Tables in Safari Question

[Robert Nelson]

Dear Sara,

I have encountered these tables taking customer surveys for Chase's online  
banking system.  It is cumbersome.  What I have found helpful is the FIND NEXT 
CONTROL command vo-command-j.  this takes me to all the check boxes one at a 
time.  The other command is vo-F3.  this command describes the   item in the 
voice over cursor.  In this case  whether or not the check box is checked or 
not.  I hope this helps.
Sincerely Yours,
robert Nelson

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Re: Tables in Safari Question

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Ooh!
Never throught of interacting with a particular cell. No I can't provide the 
URL. You'd need my log in info. I can probably provide a referril link. *smile* 
They have Amazon gift cards.
On Apr 7, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> WIthout seeing it I can only assume you need to interact with the cell. Can 
> you provide the URL?
> 
> Scott
> 
> On Apr 7, 2011, at 8:43 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
> 
>> All:
>> I could use help. I do these survays, and they are layed out in tables. You 
>> have a table with several columns, and you have to select your answers. For 
>> example: 
>> How often do you use the following products? Then you have a table with 
>> several columns. Column 1 will have a list of products in each row, I.E. 
>> tooth brush would be row 1, column 1. Makeup would be row 2, column 1, 
>> dogfood row 3, column 1. The other columns would have titles like daily, 
>> once a week, once a month, never. Each row in these columns would have check 
>> boxes or radio buttons, and you check the box corosponding to each product.
>> With Jaws, I'd press alt control right arrow, and alt control up and down to 
>> navigate by columns and rows. I could check the appropriat check boxes. 
>> I'm having problems on the Mac. I've tried this in DOM, and Group navigation 
>> mode. I can navigate the tables, read each column and row header; however I 
>> cannot check the checkboxes/radio buttons. The other rows appear blank; 
>> however if I press vo u to bring up a list of input controls, I see a bunch 
>> of check boxes, or radio buttons, so they are on the page. Any help would be 
>> appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> Sarai Bucciarelli
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Re: Tables in Safari Question

[Scott Howell]

WIthout seeing it I can only assume you need to interact with the cell. Can you 
provide the URL?

Scott

On Apr 7, 2011, at 8:43 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

> All:
> I could use help. I do these survays, and they are layed out in tables. You 
> have a table with several columns, and you have to select your answers. For 
> example: 
> How often do you use the following products? Then you have a table with 
> several columns. Column 1 will have a list of products in each row, I.E. 
> tooth brush would be row 1, column 1. Makeup would be row 2, column 1, 
> dogfood row 3, column 1. The other columns would have titles like daily, once 
> a week, once a month, never. Each row in these columns would have check boxes 
> or radio buttons, and you check the box corosponding to each product.
> With Jaws, I'd press alt control right arrow, and alt control up and down to 
> navigate by columns and rows. I could check the appropriat check boxes. 
> I'm having problems on the Mac. I've tried this in DOM, and Group navigation 
> mode. I can navigate the tables, read each column and row header; however I 
> cannot check the checkboxes/radio buttons. The other rows appear blank; 
> however if I press vo u to bring up a list of input controls, I see a bunch 
> of check boxes, or radio buttons, so they are on the page. Any help would be 
> appreciated.
> 
> 
> Sarai Bucciarelli
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Tables in Safari Question

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

All:
I could use help. I do these survays, and they are layed out in tables. You 
have a table with several columns, and you have to select your answers. For 
example: 
How often do you use the following products? Then you have a table with several 
columns. Column 1 will have a list of products in each row, I.E. tooth brush 
would be row 1, column 1. Makeup would be row 2, column 1, dogfood row 3, 
column 1. The other columns would have titles like daily, once a week, once a 
month, never. Each row in these columns would have check boxes or radio 
buttons, and you check the box corosponding to each product.
With Jaws, I'd press alt control right arrow, and alt control up and down to 
navigate by columns and rows. I could check the appropriat check boxes. 
I'm having problems on the Mac. I've tried this in DOM, and Group navigation 
mode. I can navigate the tables, read each column and row header; however I 
cannot check the checkboxes/radio buttons. The other rows appear blank; however 
if I press vo u to bring up a list of input controls, I see a bunch of check 
boxes, or radio buttons, so they are on the page. Any help would be appreciated.


Sarai Bucciarelli
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Re: safari question

[Marlaina Lieberg]

Andre,

That did the trick.  Thank you for helping me to learn yet another cool thing.

Marlaina

On Jan 17, 2011, at 3:32 AM, Andre Nuno Soares wrote:

Hello Marlaina ,

That's the bookmarks bar. You can toggle between showing it or not, I think 
it's in the View menu.

Sorry, I'm not at my Mac right now so can't check it.


HTH,
André

On 17-01-2011 11:12, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> When I tab around in Safari or open item chooser, I bump into some stuff that 
> I have no idea why it apears each time.  Wow, what a horrid sentence that 
> was, :)
> 
> Essentially, what is happening is that I am constantly seeing a few of my 
> personally added bookmarks along with a bookmark to apple, wickipedia and 
> others.  It is annoying because each time I open item chooser, I have to down 
> arrow through these ten or so items.
> 
> I'm sorry I'm asking this question without really knowing how to refer to 
> what I want to hide, but how do I get rid of these items so they do not 
> appear?  I tried hiding bookmarks but that didn't seem to do anything.
> 
> Thanks so much for any assistance.
> 
> Marlaina
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Re: safari question

[Mike Arrigo]

Hi, the best way to deal with this is to go to the view menu and disable book 
marks. Actually, at least for me, a common practice is to go to the view menu 
in all my applications and hide as much as possible, such as tool bars, book 
mark bars, etc. It's extra clutter to navigate through, and can sometimes draw 
the focus away from the main area of the application.
On Jan 17, 2011, at 5:12 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Hi all.
> 
> When I tab around in Safari or open item chooser, I bump into some stuff that 
> I have no idea why it apears each time.  Wow, what a horrid sentence that 
> was, :)
> 
> Essentially, what is happening is that I am constantly seeing a few of my 
> personally added bookmarks along with a bookmark to apple, wickipedia and 
> others.  It is annoying because each time I open item chooser, I have to down 
> arrow through these ten or so items.  
> 
> I'm sorry I'm asking this question without really knowing how to refer to 
> what I want to hide, but how do I get rid of these items so they do not 
> appear?  I tried hiding bookmarks but that didn't seem to do anything.
> 
> Thanks so much for any assistance.
> 
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Re: safari question

[Andre Nuno Soares]

Hello Marlaina ,

That's the bookmarks bar. You can toggle between showing it or not, I 
think it's in the View menu.


Sorry, I'm not at my Mac right now so can't check it.


HTH,
André

On 17-01-2011 11:12, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

Hi all.

When I tab around in Safari or open item chooser, I bump into some stuff that I 
have no idea why it apears each time.  Wow, what a horrid sentence that was, :)

Essentially, what is happening is that I am constantly seeing a few of my 
personally added bookmarks along with a bookmark to apple, wickipedia and 
others.  It is annoying because each time I open item chooser, I have to down 
arrow through these ten or so items.

I'm sorry I'm asking this question without really knowing how to refer to what 
I want to hide, but how do I get rid of these items so they do not appear?  I 
tried hiding bookmarks but that didn't seem to do anything.

Thanks so much for any assistance.

Marlaina



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safari question

[Marlaina Lieberg]

Hi all.

When I tab around in Safari or open item chooser, I bump into some stuff that I 
have no idea why it apears each time.  Wow, what a horrid sentence that was, :)

Essentially, what is happening is that I am constantly seeing a few of my 
personally added bookmarks along with a bookmark to apple, wickipedia and 
others.  It is annoying because each time I open item chooser, I have to down 
arrow through these ten or so items.  

I'm sorry I'm asking this question without really knowing how to refer to what 
I want to hide, but how do I get rid of these items so they do not appear?  I 
tried hiding bookmarks but that didn't seem to do anything.

Thanks so much for any assistance.

Marlaina

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Safari Question

[Jane]

I am downloading several books from Audible using Safari on the mac Mini.  
Every time I hit the download link the page refreshes, and I have to scroll 
back to where I was.  How can I prevent this?

Jane


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Re: a Safari question

[Jonathan Cohn]

If you hit the webspot create option sequence twice, this is supposed
to set up such a point but I have had little luck with it personally.
I generally will look for something searchable, or use the headings.
If there is common text right before where you want to be, and search
for it with VO-F, then VO-G will find that text again.  There is also
a numpad commander shortcut key for repeating a search.

Best,

Jon


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> Hi everyone:
> I was on a surfing frenzy yesterday and got to wondering something about web
> page access.
>
> If I am reading something, say, for example a list of sale products, and
> there's a series of pages within the listing, is there a way to have my
> cursor move right to the same listing when the new page loads?  TIA
>
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a Safari question

[Carolyn Haas]

Hi everyone:
I was on a surfing frenzy yesterday and got to wondering something about web 
page access.

If I am reading something, say, for example a list of sale products, and 
there's a series of pages within the listing, is there a way to have my cursor 
move right to the same listing when the new page loads?  TIA

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Re: A quick VO Safari question

[Scott Howell]

Greg, that has always been the case, but the why I am not sure. 
On Aug 19, 2010, at 7:54 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:

> Does anyone know why VC up and down arrows do not work in Safari? All I get 
> is a beep and no movement. In other programs they work as expected.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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> Association for the Blind of WA - Guide Dogs WA
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> Tel: 08 9311 8246 | Fax: 08 9361 8696 | www.guidedogswa.com.au
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A quick VO Safari question

[Greg Kearney]

Does anyone know why VC up and down arrows do not work in Safari? All I get is 
a beep and no movement. In other programs they work as expected.

Thanks.

Gregory Kearney | Manager Accessible Media
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Re: Bookmarks Bar in Safari [was Re: Safari question and first post from Mac]

[Alfredo]

I hope i am typing this ont he forums and not as a personal message.
Thanks, ester I will try that out tomorrow .  Alfredo

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Bookmarks Bar in Safari [was Re: Safari question and first post from Mac]

[Esther]

Hello Alfredo,

Yes, you can have a bookmark folder that you create appear on the  
Safari bookmarks bar, if you have your browser set to display this.   
The fastest way to create a folder on the Bookmarks Bar, assuming you  
start with a completely empty setup, would be to press Command-Option- 
B to "Show All Bookmarks", then to navigate to the "Bookmarks Bar".   
You can use item chooser (VO-I) to go to "Bookmarks Bar" in the table  
of bookmark collections. (Note: there's both a "Bookmarks Bar" and a  
"Bookmarks Menu" in the table.) Then, tab past the "search text field"  
to the table that lists contents of your selected bookmark collection  
and interact.  Create a new folder with Command-Shift-N. After you've  
created your folders and bookmarks, use Command-Option-B again to  
"Hide All Bookmarks" -- that key sequence is a toggle. It's also the  
first command in the "Bookmarks" menu on the menu bar, if you use the  
menu bar instead of keyboard shortcuts.  You'll also find the commands  
to "Add Bookmark" (Command-D) and "Add Bookmark Folder" (Command-Shift- 
N) if you arrow down through the Bookmarks menu on the Safari menu  
bar.  To add the present page as a bookmark, use Command-D, and then  
type in a name (or use the default) in the dialog window. VO-Space on  
the pop up button for where to save the bookmark, and select the  
"Bookmarks Bar".  General bookmarks management, searching, etc. is  
done by toggling on "Show All Bookmarks", which shows you a special  
web page for managing your bookmarks.  The reason for not simply using  
Command-Shift-N to create a new folder is that it creates a new folder  
of bookmarks in your bookmark collections -- it does NOT create a  
folder under the Bookmarks bar, which is what you were asking for.   
You have to navigate to select the folder you want in the bookmarks  
collection in order to create subfolders there.


To read more about bookmarks and there organization, you can read my  
post from last month in response to a question about moving and  
deleting bookmarks:

http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg21962.html
(Re: moving and deleting bookmarks).

Cheers,

Esther

On Jun 26, 2010, Cody Hurst wrote:

the fattest way? hm lol. yeah I could never figure out the bookmarks  
thing it's starting to annoy me but wehatever

On Jun 26, 2010, Alfredo wrote:


This is my first post from my mac book pro and have a question on
safari and bookmark folders.  Can you have  a bookmark folder you
create to be on the toolbar?  If so how?  If you cannot then how  
can I

get tot he bookmark folder I create in the fatest way possible?  Any
suggestions would be greatly appreciated, even those involving the
automater whcih i have never used.
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Re: Safari question and first post from Mac

[Cody Hurst]

the fattest way? hm lol. yeah I could never figure out the bookmarks thing it's 
starting to annoy me but wehatever
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> This is my first post from my mac book pro and have a question on
> safari and bookmark folders.  Can you have  a bookmark folder you
> create to be on the toolbar?  If so how?  If you cannot then how can I
> get tot he bookmark folder I create in the fatest way possible?  Any
> suggestions would be greatly appreciated, even those involving the
> automater whcih i have never used.
> Thanks
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Safari question and first post from Mac

[Alfredo]

This is my first post from my mac book pro and have a question on
safari and bookmark folders.  Can you have  a bookmark folder you
create to be on the toolbar?  If so how?  If you cannot then how can I
get tot he bookmark folder I create in the fatest way possible?  Any
suggestions would be greatly appreciated, even those involving the
automater whcih i have never used.
Thanks

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Re: safari question

[May McDonald]

Ah ok, it was the first part that I wasn't doing. Thanks very much.
On 2010-05-05, at 11:54 AM, marie Howarth wrote:

> You need to clear the cash. either command-option-E or go to Safaris menu and 
> also you need to clear cookies. hit CMD-comma and go to security and delete 
> cookies.
> HTH
> 
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> 
>> Ok, here's another question. How do I get safari to clear all the user names 
>> and passwords that I have stored in it. There's a site that I have access to 
>> that logs me in automatically and I don't want it to do that any longer. 
>> Please help.
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Re: safari question

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You need to clear the cash. either command-option-E or go to Safaris menu and 
also you need to clear cookies. hit CMD-comma and go to security and delete 
cookies.
HTH

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> Ok, here's another question. How do I get safari to clear all the user names 
> and passwords that I have stored in it. There's a site that I have access to 
> that logs me in automatically and I don't want it to do that any longer. 
> Please help.
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safari question

[May McDonald]

Ok, here's another question. How do I get safari to clear all the user names 
and passwords that I have stored in it. There's a site that I have access to 
that logs me in automatically and I don't want it to do that any longer. Please 
help.

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a safari question

[Sarah Alawami]

Hey there all. let's say someone gives me a direct link in a skype chat to a 
file. I right click and tell skype to copy the link to my clipboard. Now I go 
in to safari and paste the link in to the command l address bar and the thing 
instead of downloading streams instead. is there a way around this?

Thanks.

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Re: Safari Question

[Chantel Cuddemi]

Glad I could help. 
On Nov 12, 2009, at 10:25 PM, David McLean wrote:

> 
> That did it!  Thanks a lot.
> 
> On Nov 12, 2009, at 10:13 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
> 
>> 
>> option enter. 
>> On Nov 12, 2009, at 8:48 PM, David McLean wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello, Is there a way to save an mp3 file that a link points at in Safari 
>>> instead of opening it when the link is clicked?
>>> 
>>> In Windows of course you can go to save target but how is this accomplished 
>>> on the mac?
>>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>> Dave
 
>> 
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Re: Safari Question

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That did it!  Thanks a lot.

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> option enter. 
> On Nov 12, 2009, at 8:48 PM, David McLean wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hello, Is there a way to save an mp3 file that a link points at in Safari 
>> instead of opening it when the link is clicked?
>> 
>> In Windows of course you can go to save target but how is this accomplished 
>> on the mac?
>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>> Dave
>>> 
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Re: Safari Question

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option enter. 
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> Hello, Is there a way to save an mp3 file that a link points at in Safari 
> instead of opening it when the link is clicked?
> 
> In Windows of course you can go to save target but how is this accomplished 
> on the mac?
> Thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: -- -- Re: Safari Question

[David McLean]

H!  I could be missing it but I don'tsee any such item in the context menu 
or in the regular menus for Safari.
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> 
> Hi Dave, in most cases, you should be able to VO-shift-M on a link, and 
> go to the download linked file option in that contextual menu.  On Thu, 
> 12 Nov 2009 20:48:30 -0500, David McLean wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, Is there a way to save an mp3 file that a link points at in 
>> Safari instead of opening it when the link is clicked?
>> 
>> In Windows of course you can go to save target but how is this 
>> accomplished on the mac?
>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>> Dave
>>> 
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Re: Safari Question

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Hi Dave, in most cases, you should be able to VO-shift-M on a link, and 
go to the download linked file option in that contextual menu.  On Thu, 
12 Nov 2009 20:48:30 -0500, David McLean wrote:
> 
> Hello, Is there a way to save an mp3 file that a link points at in 
> Safari instead of opening it when the link is clicked?
> 
> In Windows of course you can go to save target but how is this 
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Safari Question

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Hello, Is there a way to save an mp3 file that a link points at in Safari 
instead of opening it when the link is clicked?

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the mac?
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Re: A wordpress and safari question for all bloggers out there

[Koumanova Rostislava]

hi ,
i have to make them drag and drop by my husband. but when they are  
placed i can open them and  and work well . but i have hard time  
workink in the html window. vo just sticks there and does not want to  
go forward.
what am i doing wrong?
rk


Il giorno 09/ago/09, alle ore 15:50, Mark Baxter ha scritto:

>
> Can you set Xjournal or something to upload to your own domain?  I
> never thought about posting a blog on my own domain, and I'm really
> not sure why.  I use LiveJournal, now:
> http://livejournal.com/users/BurningHawk
> if anyone cares.  Maybe it'd get people coming to my domain,
> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
> and then they'd get more acquainted with my creative stuff, not just
> my rants. :)
>
>
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Re: A wordpress and safari question for all bloggers out there

[Marie Howarth]

I'm guessing there would be some kind of tool to do this or some code.  
you may wanna search live journal to investigate more.

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> Can you set Xjournal or something to upload to your own domain?  I
> never thought about posting a blog on my own domain, and I'm really
> not sure why.  I use LiveJournal, now:
> http://livejournal.com/users/BurningHawk
> if anyone cares.  Maybe it'd get people coming to my domain,
> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
> and then they'd get more acquainted with my creative stuff, not just
> my rants. :)
>
>
> Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> My home page:
> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>
>
> >


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Re: A wordpress and safari question for all bloggers out there

[Mark Baxter]

Can you set Xjournal or something to upload to your own domain?  I  
never thought about posting a blog on my own domain, and I'm really  
not sure why.  I use LiveJournal, now:
http://livejournal.com/users/BurningHawk
if anyone cares.  Maybe it'd get people coming to my domain,
http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
and then they'd get more acquainted with my creative stuff, not just  
my rants. :)


Mark BurningHawk Baxter

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MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
My home page:
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Re: A wordpress and safari question for all bloggers out there

[Marie Howarth]

I've been having the same issue, hope someone can answer it. some of  
the widgets are really good. and before some kind of update on  
wordpress's part, this feature was pretty accessible.

On Aug 9, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

>
> Hi good knowledgable people out in Mac land.
> I'm trying to set up a blog on my domain and i'm thinking about using
> widgets on it. My question to you is how do you activate wordpress
> widgets using Safari? The instructions say to drag/drop widgets onto
> the side bar of the theme in Wordpress to activate them, but umm, i
> can't find the sidebars so how do people do this with Safari and
> Voiceover?
> TIA
> /Krister
>
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A wordpress and safari question for all bloggers out there

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi good knowledgable people out in Mac land.
I'm trying to set up a blog on my domain and i'm thinking about using  
widgets on it. My question to you is how do you activate wordpress  
widgets using Safari? The instructions say to drag/drop widgets onto  
the side bar of the theme in Wordpress to activate them, but umm, i  
can't find the sidebars so how do people do this with Safari and  
Voiceover?
TIA
/Krister

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