Re: should I upgrade from Mac OS catalina to big sur?

2021-03-26 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I always upgrade as I want the latest with security in mind.
/A

> 26 mars 2021 kl. 23:44 skrev 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Braille display support improved significantly with Big Sur (i.e., some bugs 
> were apparently fixed). In particular, it is less likely to skip text while 
> panning the display.
> 
> If this matters to you, then it's a reason to upgrade. I am not significantly 
> affected by any of the bugs that have been reported, so there is little to 
> contend with on the negative side for my particular use cases.
> 
> On 26/3/21 12:21 pm, Brad Snyder wrote:
>> If Catalina is working for you, then I'd stick with it for now. There are a 
>> few annoying bugs in Big Sur that Apple has not resolved. While there are 
>> workarounds to these bugs, I feel it would be much nicer to not have to deal 
>> with  Big Sur, until Apple resolve these issues.
>> 
>> That's just my opinion. I'm sure others have their own opinions about this.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 11:12, Cameron Strife  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everybody. As far as general computer use and audio production, are
>> there any issues with big sur? I'm wondering if I should upgrade or
>> just hang tight with catalina for now.
>> 
>> I have the latest versions of Logic pro, ProTools, Waves diamond v12,
>> NI komplete ultimate 12, and Omnisphere 2. Other than those, I use
>> iwork, Switch audio file converter, and a few other things.
>> 
>> I guess I'm looking for a pros and cons list?
>> 
>> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Cameron.
>> 
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Re: should I upgrade from Mac OS catalina to big sur?

2021-03-26 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
Braille display support improved significantly with Big Sur (i.e., some 
bugs were apparently fixed). In particular, it is less likely to skip 
text while panning the display.


If this matters to you, then it's a reason to upgrade. I am not 
significantly affected by any of the bugs that have been reported, so 
there is little to contend with on the negative side for my particular 
use cases.


On 26/3/21 12:21 pm, Brad Snyder wrote:

If Catalina is working for you, then I'd stick with it for now. There are a few 
annoying bugs in Big Sur that Apple has not resolved. While there are 
workarounds to these bugs, I feel it would be much nicer to not have to deal 
with  Big Sur, until Apple resolve these issues.

That's just my opinion. I'm sure others have their own opinions about this.

- Brad -

On Mar 26, 2021, at 11:12, Cameron Strife  wrote:

Hi everybody. As far as general computer use and audio production, are
there any issues with big sur? I'm wondering if I should upgrade or
just hang tight with catalina for now.

I have the latest versions of Logic pro, ProTools, Waves diamond v12,
NI komplete ultimate 12, and Omnisphere 2. Other than those, I use
iwork, Switch audio file converter, and a few other things.

I guess I'm looking for a pros and cons list?

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Cameron.



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Re: should I upgrade from Mac OS catalina to big sur?

2021-03-26 Thread Cameron Strife
Hi everybody. Thanks for all the feedback everybody. I think I'll hold
off for now at least especially after what you noted Jonathan as I was
not aware of that fact.

I don't run anything 32 bit anymore but thanks kare for pointing that
out as that is a valid concern.

Cameron.




On 3/26/21, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
> there is a major new limitation with Bigsur. All non apple kernal extensions
> are blocked. So for example if there is dedicated dacs that require kernal
> code to work than a new driver from the manufaturer would be required. The
> other major change is that the entire core of the OS is in a read only
> signed partition. So updates to /usr/bin are now essentially impossible.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 1:47 PM, Karen Lewellen 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Cameron,
>> I strongly suggest given how important your production tools are to your
>> work  that you check with  software supporters.
>> For example if  any of those tools even slightly still need 32 bit access,
>> it will not be there.
>> I have radio  production associates who have not made the jump for that
>> reason  alone, and they are not even using voiceover.
>> The  question for you, speaking personally, is if you will gain more than
>> you have  working now by adding an entirely new system?
>> If the answer is no, then I would  wait.
>> If there are major benefits that you cannot manage now, keeping in mind
>> that rolling back to a prior edition may be challenging,  then follow the
>> ideas of others here.
>> Make sense?
>> Kare
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021, Cameron Strife wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everybody. As far as general computer use and audio production, are
>>> there any issues with big sur? I'm wondering if I should upgrade or
>>> just hang tight with catalina for now.
>>>
>>> I have the latest versions of Logic pro, ProTools, Waves diamond v12,
>>> NI komplete ultimate 12, and Omnisphere 2. Other than those, I use
>>> iwork, Switch audio file converter, and a few other things.
>>>
>>> I guess I'm looking for a pros and cons list?
>>>
>>> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Cameron.
>>>
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Re: should I upgrade from Mac OS catalina to big sur?

2021-03-26 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
there is a major new limitation with Bigsur. All non apple kernal extensions 
are blocked. So for example if there is dedicated dacs that require kernal code 
to work than a new driver from the manufaturer would be required. The other 
major change is that the entire core of the OS is in a read only signed 
partition. So updates to /usr/bin are now essentially impossible.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 26, 2021, at 1:47 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Cameron,
> I strongly suggest given how important your production tools are to your work 
>  that you check with  software supporters.
> For example if  any of those tools even slightly still need 32 bit access, it 
> will not be there.
> I have radio  production associates who have not made the jump for that 
> reason  alone, and they are not even using voiceover.
> The  question for you, speaking personally, is if you will gain more than you 
> have  working now by adding an entirely new system?
> If the answer is no, then I would  wait.
> If there are major benefits that you cannot manage now, keeping in mind that 
> rolling back to a prior edition may be challenging,  then follow the ideas of 
> others here.
> Make sense?
> Kare
> 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021, Cameron Strife wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everybody. As far as general computer use and audio production, are
>> there any issues with big sur? I'm wondering if I should upgrade or
>> just hang tight with catalina for now.
>> 
>> I have the latest versions of Logic pro, ProTools, Waves diamond v12,
>> NI komplete ultimate 12, and Omnisphere 2. Other than those, I use
>> iwork, Switch audio file converter, and a few other things.
>> 
>> I guess I'm looking for a pros and cons list?
>> 
>> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Cameron.
>> 
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Re: should I upgrade from Mac OS catalina to big sur?

2021-03-26 Thread Karen Lewellen

It was just a possible example brad.
still, it seems the upgrade is ill advised regardless.



On Fri, 26 Mar 2021, Brad Snyder wrote:


Since it sounds like Cameron is currently using Catalina, which does not 
support 32-bit apps, this should not be an issue, one way or another.

- Brad -


On Mar 26, 2021, at 12:47, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi Cameron,
I strongly suggest given how important your production tools are to your work  
that you check with  software supporters.
For example if  any of those tools even slightly still need 32 bit access, it 
will not be there.
I have radio  production associates who have not made the jump for that reason  
alone, and they are not even using voiceover.
The  question for you, speaking personally, is if you will gain more than you 
have  working now by adding an entirely new system?
If the answer is no, then I would  wait.
If there are major benefits that you cannot manage now, keeping in mind that 
rolling back to a prior edition may be challenging,  then follow the ideas of 
others here.
Make sense?
Kare



On Fri, 26 Mar 2021, Cameron Strife wrote:


Hi everybody. As far as general computer use and audio production, are
there any issues with big sur? I'm wondering if I should upgrade or
just hang tight with catalina for now.

I have the latest versions of Logic pro, ProTools, Waves diamond v12,
NI komplete ultimate 12, and Omnisphere 2. Other than those, I use
iwork, Switch audio file converter, and a few other things.

I guess I'm looking for a pros and cons list?

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Cameron.

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Re: should I upgrade from Mac OS catalina to big sur?

2021-03-26 Thread Brad Snyder
Since it sounds like Cameron is currently using Catalina, which does not 
support 32-bit apps, this should not be an issue, one way or another.

- Brad -


On Mar 26, 2021, at 12:47, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi Cameron,
I strongly suggest given how important your production tools are to your work  
that you check with  software supporters.
For example if  any of those tools even slightly still need 32 bit access, it 
will not be there.
I have radio  production associates who have not made the jump for that reason  
alone, and they are not even using voiceover.
The  question for you, speaking personally, is if you will gain more than you 
have  working now by adding an entirely new system?
If the answer is no, then I would  wait.
If there are major benefits that you cannot manage now, keeping in mind that 
rolling back to a prior edition may be challenging,  then follow the ideas of 
others here.
Make sense?
Kare



On Fri, 26 Mar 2021, Cameron Strife wrote:

> Hi everybody. As far as general computer use and audio production, are
> there any issues with big sur? I'm wondering if I should upgrade or
> just hang tight with catalina for now.
> 
> I have the latest versions of Logic pro, ProTools, Waves diamond v12,
> NI komplete ultimate 12, and Omnisphere 2. Other than those, I use
> iwork, Switch audio file converter, and a few other things.
> 
> I guess I'm looking for a pros and cons list?
> 
> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cameron.
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Re: should I upgrade from Mac OS catalina to big sur?

2021-03-26 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi Cameron,
I strongly suggest given how important your production tools are to your 
work  that you check with  software supporters.
For example if  any of those tools even slightly still need 32 bit access, 
it will not be there.
I have radio  production associates who have not made the jump for that 
reason  alone, and they are not even using voiceover.
The  question for you, speaking personally, is if you will gain more than 
you have  working now by adding an entirely new system?

If the answer is no, then I would  wait.
If there are major benefits that you cannot manage now, keeping in mind 
that rolling back to a prior edition may be challenging,  then follow the 
ideas of others here.

Make sense?
Kare



On Fri, 26 Mar 2021, Cameron Strife wrote:


Hi everybody. As far as general computer use and audio production, are
there any issues with big sur? I'm wondering if I should upgrade or
just hang tight with catalina for now.

I have the latest versions of Logic pro, ProTools, Waves diamond v12,
NI komplete ultimate 12, and Omnisphere 2. Other than those, I use
iwork, Switch audio file converter, and a few other things.

I guess I'm looking for a pros and cons list?

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Cameron.

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Re: should I upgrade from Mac OS catalina to big sur?

2021-03-26 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
I agree. I upgraded to Big Sur, and I wish I'd just upgraded to Catalina 
instead.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Mar 26, 2021, at 11:21 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> If Catalina is working for you, then I'd stick with it for now. There are a 
> few annoying bugs in Big Sur that Apple has not resolved. While there are 
> workarounds to these bugs, I feel it would be much nicer to not have to deal 
> with  Big Sur, until Apple resolve these issues.
> 
> That's just my opinion. I'm sure others have their own opinions about this.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 26, 2021, at 11:12, Cameron Strife  wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody. As far as general computer use and audio production, are
> there any issues with big sur? I'm wondering if I should upgrade or
> just hang tight with catalina for now.
> 
> I have the latest versions of Logic pro, ProTools, Waves diamond v12,
> NI komplete ultimate 12, and Omnisphere 2. Other than those, I use
> iwork, Switch audio file converter, and a few other things.
> 
> I guess I'm looking for a pros and cons list?
> 
> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cameron.
> 
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Re: should I upgrade from Mac OS catalina to big sur?

2021-03-26 Thread Brad Snyder
If Catalina is working for you, then I'd stick with it for now. There are a few 
annoying bugs in Big Sur that Apple has not resolved. While there are 
workarounds to these bugs, I feel it would be much nicer to not have to deal 
with  Big Sur, until Apple resolve these issues.

That's just my opinion. I'm sure others have their own opinions about this.

- Brad -

On Mar 26, 2021, at 11:12, Cameron Strife  wrote:

Hi everybody. As far as general computer use and audio production, are
there any issues with big sur? I'm wondering if I should upgrade or
just hang tight with catalina for now.

I have the latest versions of Logic pro, ProTools, Waves diamond v12,
NI komplete ultimate 12, and Omnisphere 2. Other than those, I use
iwork, Switch audio file converter, and a few other things.

I guess I'm looking for a pros and cons list?

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Cameron.

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should I upgrade from Mac OS catalina to big sur?

2021-03-26 Thread Cameron Strife
Hi everybody. As far as general computer use and audio production, are
there any issues with big sur? I'm wondering if I should upgrade or
just hang tight with catalina for now.

I have the latest versions of Logic pro, ProTools, Waves diamond v12,
NI komplete ultimate 12, and Omnisphere 2. Other than those, I use
iwork, Switch audio file converter, and a few other things.

I guess I'm looking for a pros and cons list?

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Cameron.

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