Re: tip: reading 'mastering the macintosh with vo' ON THE MAC
actually it is quite easy to see the table of contents by pushing the list button on the iPhone screen. On Aug 9, 2014, at 6:24 AM, Anouk Radix radix.an...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am not sure about the legalities of this but since ibooks on the mac is rather inaccessible with a braille display and even though you can use a braille display on ios it just does not feel as comfortable as reading braille on a mac to me. So, i got this tip from an acquaintance of mine and thought i would share. Since this is a free and apparently unprotected ibook (this does not neccessarily go hand in hand, some paid ibooks are protected others are not). It is actually possi ble to read the ibook on the mac with safari. Epub apparently is just a container, at least the text of the ibook is some kind of html. to do this: - imho its easiest to download the book on ios, make sure to open it as well on that device. - then open ibooks on the mac, it will ask you for your apple id so it can sync with icloud - open the book on the mac once as well. - then go to the finder and use the go to folder commando (cmd+shift+g) and paste the following path ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.BKAgentService/Data/Documents/iBooks/Books this is the folder where apple stores the ibooks that you have downloaded onto your mac. The books are given a random number, in my case since the book was the last one i added it was easy to find just by looking at the date modified column. - go to that folder and then to the underlying ops folder. Here you will find the chapter files. Its perhaps a good idea to copy the whole book to a different folder so that it will be easier to find in future. hth Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: tip: reading 'mastering the macintosh with vo' ON THE MAC
Yes but was this not eferring to ibooks on the mac? On 13 Aug 2014, at 16:19, Pat Pound dpo...@austin.rr.com wrote: actually it is quite easy to see the table of contents by pushing the list button on the iPhone screen. On Aug 9, 2014, at 6:24 AM, Anouk Radix radix.an...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am not sure about the legalities of this but since ibooks on the mac is rather inaccessible with a braille display and even though you can use a braille display on ios it just does not feel as comfortable as reading braille on a mac to me. So, i got this tip from an acquaintance of mine and thought i would share. Since this is a free and apparently unprotected ibook (this does not neccessarily go hand in hand, some paid ibooks are protected others are not). It is actually possi ble to read the ibook on the mac with safari. Epub apparently is just a container, at least the text of the ibook is some kind of html. to do this: - imho its easiest to download the book on ios, make sure to open it as well on that device. - then open ibooks on the mac, it will ask you for your apple id so it can sync with icloud - open the book on the mac once as well. - then go to the finder and use the go to folder commando (cmd+shift+g) and paste the following path ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.BKAgentService/Data/Documents/iBooks/Books this is the folder where apple stores the ibooks that you have downloaded onto your mac. The books are given a random number, in my case since the book was the last one i added it was easy to find just by looking at the date modified column. - go to that folder and then to the underlying ops folder. Here you will find the chapter files. Its perhaps a good idea to copy the whole book to a different folder so that it will be easier to find in future. hth Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
tip: reading 'mastering the macintosh with vo' ON THE MAC
Hi everyone, I am not sure about the legalities of this but since ibooks on the mac is rather inaccessible with a braille display and even though you can use a braille display on ios it just does not feel as comfortable as reading braille on a mac to me. So, i got this tip from an acquaintance of mine and thought i would share. Since this is a free and apparently unprotected ibook (this does not neccessarily go hand in hand, some paid ibooks are protected others are not). It is actually possi ble to read the ibook on the mac with safari. Epub apparently is just a container, at least the text of the ibook is some kind of html. to do this: - imho its easiest to download the book on ios, make sure to open it as well on that device. - then open ibooks on the mac, it will ask you for your apple id so it can sync with icloud - open the book on the mac once as well. - then go to the finder and use the go to folder commando (cmd+shift+g) and paste the following path ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.BKAgentService/Data/Documents/iBooks/Books this is the folder where apple stores the ibooks that you have downloaded onto your mac. The books are given a random number, in my case since the book was the last one i added it was easy to find just by looking at the date modified column. - go to that folder and then to the underlying ops folder. Here you will find the chapter files. Its perhaps a good idea to copy the whole book to a different folder so that it will be easier to find in future. hth Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: tip: reading 'mastering the macintosh with vo' ON THE MAC
thanks for the tip. Just curious, what sorts of problems are you having trying to read in ibooks with braille? I've been doing it for about a week now and don't see a problem? Caitlyn On Aug 9, 2014, at 7:24 AM, Anouk Radix radix.an...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am not sure about the legalities of this but since ibooks on the mac is rather inaccessible with a braille display and even though you can use a braille display on ios it just does not feel as comfortable as reading braille on a mac to me. So, i got this tip from an acquaintance of mine and thought i would share. Since this is a free and apparently unprotected ibook (this does not neccessarily go hand in hand, some paid ibooks are protected others are not). It is actually possi ble to read the ibook on the mac with safari. Epub apparently is just a container, at least the text of the ibook is some kind of html. to do this: - imho its easiest to download the book on ios, make sure to open it as well on that device. - then open ibooks on the mac, it will ask you for your apple id so it can sync with icloud - open the book on the mac once as well. - then go to the finder and use the go to folder commando (cmd+shift+g) and paste the following path ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.BKAgentService/Data/Documents/iBooks/Books this is the folder where apple stores the ibooks that you have downloaded onto your mac. The books are given a random number, in my case since the book was the last one i added it was easy to find just by looking at the date modified column. - go to that folder and then to the underlying ops folder. Here you will find the chapter files. Its perhaps a good idea to copy the whole book to a different folder so that it will be easier to find in future. hth Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: tip: reading 'mastering the macintosh with vo' ON THE MAC
Hi, my problem is that i only seem to be able to do it by using the item chooser and even that stops at a certain point. If i try to read it normally then i cant get to the next page or chapter. Also i could never seem to figure out how to use the table of contents to navigate to a spot directly. Admittedly it has been a few months since i tried this though. Greetings, Anouk, On 09 Aug 2014, at 13:50, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for the tip. Just curious, what sorts of problems are you having trying to read in ibooks with braille? I've been doing it for about a week now and don't see a problem? Caitlyn On Aug 9, 2014, at 7:24 AM, Anouk Radix radix.an...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am not sure about the legalities of this but since ibooks on the mac is rather inaccessible with a braille display and even though you can use a braille display on ios it just does not feel as comfortable as reading braille on a mac to me. So, i got this tip from an acquaintance of mine and thought i would share. Since this is a free and apparently unprotected ibook (this does not neccessarily go hand in hand, some paid ibooks are protected others are not). It is actually possi ble to read the ibook on the mac with safari. Epub apparently is just a container, at least the text of the ibook is some kind of html. to do this: - imho its easiest to download the book on ios, make sure to open it as well on that device. - then open ibooks on the mac, it will ask you for your apple id so it can sync with icloud - open the book on the mac once as well. - then go to the finder and use the go to folder commando (cmd+shift+g) and paste the following path ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.BKAgentService/Data/Documents/iBooks/Books this is the folder where apple stores the ibooks that you have downloaded onto your mac. The books are given a random number, in my case since the book was the last one i added it was easy to find just by looking at the date modified column. - go to that folder and then to the underlying ops folder. Here you will find the chapter files. Its perhaps a good idea to copy the whole book to a different folder so that it will be easier to find in future. hth Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: tip: reading 'mastering the macintosh with vo' ON THE MAC
I'm sure if any of you guys were to email the author, you would certainly accommodate you.emailed him several times and he's been very responsive. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 9, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for the tip. Just curious, what sorts of problems are you having trying to read in ibooks with braille? I've been doing it for about a week now and don't see a problem? Caitlyn On Aug 9, 2014, at 7:24 AM, Anouk Radix radix.an...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am not sure about the legalities of this but since ibooks on the mac is rather inaccessible with a braille display and even though you can use a braille display on ios it just does not feel as comfortable as reading braille on a mac to me. So, i got this tip from an acquaintance of mine and thought i would share. Since this is a free and apparently unprotected ibook (this does not neccessarily go hand in hand, some paid ibooks are protected others are not). It is actually possi ble to read the ibook on the mac with safari. Epub apparently is just a container, at least the text of the ibook is some kind of html. to do this: - imho its easiest to download the book on ios, make sure to open it as well on that device. - then open ibooks on the mac, it will ask you for your apple id so it can sync with icloud - open the book on the mac once as well. - then go to the finder and use the go to folder commando (cmd+shift+g) and paste the following path ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.BKAgentService/Data/Documents/iBooks/Books this is the folder where apple stores the ibooks that you have downloaded onto your mac. The books are given a random number, in my case since the book was the last one i added it was easy to find just by looking at the date modified column. - go to that folder and then to the underlying ops folder. Here you will find the chapter files. Its perhaps a good idea to copy the whole book to a different folder so that it will be easier to find in future. hth Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: tip: reading 'mastering the macintosh with vo' ON THE MAC
Ah, OK. Well, to get to the next chapter, I have made my own shortcut, control n. Control p is for previous chapter. You can set these up in keyboard in the system prefs. The given shortcut for next chapter in i books doesn't seem to work for me, it's supposed to be command shift right arrow, but all that does is highlight the current line here. that's why I made my own shortcuts. For me, after I hit control n, I have to stop intereacting with the current chapter and then vo right arrow to the next one, then interact again. The table of contents doesn't stay on the screen long enough to actually navigate to things. As soon as you try to move the vo cursor up or down to read the contents, it goes away, so this is useless for me. I have sent email to accessibility at apple to make them aware of these things.. hth, Cait On Aug 9, 2014, at 8:01 AM, Anouk Radix radix.an...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, my problem is that i only seem to be able to do it by using the item chooser and even that stops at a certain point. If i try to read it normally then i cant get to the next page or chapter. Also i could never seem to figure out how to use the table of contents to navigate to a spot directly. Admittedly it has been a few months since i tried this though. Greetings, Anouk, On 09 Aug 2014, at 13:50, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for the tip. Just curious, what sorts of problems are you having trying to read in ibooks with braille? I've been doing it for about a week now and don't see a problem? Caitlyn On Aug 9, 2014, at 7:24 AM, Anouk Radix radix.an...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am not sure about the legalities of this but since ibooks on the mac is rather inaccessible with a braille display and even though you can use a braille display on ios it just does not feel as comfortable as reading braille on a mac to me. So, i got this tip from an acquaintance of mine and thought i would share. Since this is a free and apparently unprotected ibook (this does not neccessarily go hand in hand, some paid ibooks are protected others are not). It is actually possi ble to read the ibook on the mac with safari. Epub apparently is just a container, at least the text of the ibook is some kind of html. to do this: - imho its easiest to download the book on ios, make sure to open it as well on that device. - then open ibooks on the mac, it will ask you for your apple id so it can sync with icloud - open the book on the mac once as well. - then go to the finder and use the go to folder commando (cmd+shift+g) and paste the following path ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.BKAgentService/Data/Documents/iBooks/Books this is the folder where apple stores the ibooks that you have downloaded onto your mac. The books are given a random number, in my case since the book was the last one i added it was easy to find just by looking at the date modified column. - go to that folder and then to the underlying ops folder. Here you will find the chapter files. Its perhaps a good idea to copy the whole book to a different folder so that it will be easier to find in future. hth Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: tip: reading 'mastering the macintosh with vo' ON THE MAC
Hi, I have mailed aple accessibility as well. These things should just work imho without you having to make your own shortcuts, the default ones should just do their job. I am happy that it works for you though. Greetings, Anouk, On 09 Aug 2014, at 18:37, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, OK. Well, to get to the next chapter, I have made my own shortcut, control n. Control p is for previous chapter. You can set these up in keyboard in the system prefs. The given shortcut for next chapter in i books doesn't seem to work for me, it's supposed to be command shift right arrow, but all that does is highlight the current line here. that's why I made my own shortcuts. For me, after I hit control n, I have to stop intereacting with the current chapter and then vo right arrow to the next one, then interact again. The table of contents doesn't stay on the screen long enough to actually navigate to things. As soon as you try to move the vo cursor up or down to read the contents, it goes away, so this is useless for me. I have sent email to accessibility at apple to make them aware of these things.. hth, Cait On Aug 9, 2014, at 8:01 AM, Anouk Radix radix.an...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, my problem is that i only seem to be able to do it by using the item chooser and even that stops at a certain point. If i try to read it normally then i cant get to the next page or chapter. Also i could never seem to figure out how to use the table of contents to navigate to a spot directly. Admittedly it has been a few months since i tried this though. Greetings, Anouk, On 09 Aug 2014, at 13:50, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for the tip. Just curious, what sorts of problems are you having trying to read in ibooks with braille? I've been doing it for about a week now and don't see a problem? Caitlyn On Aug 9, 2014, at 7:24 AM, Anouk Radix radix.an...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am not sure about the legalities of this but since ibooks on the mac is rather inaccessible with a braille display and even though you can use a braille display on ios it just does not feel as comfortable as reading braille on a mac to me. So, i got this tip from an acquaintance of mine and thought i would share. Since this is a free and apparently unprotected ibook (this does not neccessarily go hand in hand, some paid ibooks are protected others are not). It is actually possi ble to read the ibook on the mac with safari. Epub apparently is just a container, at least the text of the ibook is some kind of html. to do this: - imho its easiest to download the book on ios, make sure to open it as well on that device. - then open ibooks on the mac, it will ask you for your apple id so it can sync with icloud - open the book on the mac once as well. - then go to the finder and use the go to folder commando (cmd+shift+g) and paste the following path ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.BKAgentService/Data/Documents/iBooks/Books this is the folder where apple stores the ibooks that you have downloaded onto your mac. The books are given a random number, in my case since the book was the last one i added it was easy to find just by looking at the date modified column. - go to that folder and then to the underlying ops folder. Here you will find the chapter files. Its perhaps a good idea to copy the whole book to a different folder so that it will be easier to find in future. hth Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this
