[maemo-developers] TiddlyWiki follow-up

2005-08-26 Thread Roger Sperberg
Kimmo,

Thanks for trying.

I investigated further and learned that saving changes to the file locally is very browser dependent.
- In IE some sort of Active X is used
- The Firefox code "delves into the internals of the browser" 

At any rate, the desktop solution is to use an Opera-specific mod that
involves Java (see
http://my.opera.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=91372 for details).

There's a plug-in that allows Safari to save changes, and perhaps this would work with the GTK+Webcore browser in the 770.

Or perhaps the author of TiddlyWiki will accede to the pleas to integrate Opera support.

At any rate, the microcontent approach of TiddlyWiki seems very well
suited to the Internet Tablet approach. Take a look at tiddlywiki.com
and see for yourself (and thanks to John Holmblad for bringing this to
my attention on this list).

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Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 09:39:09 +0300
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [maemo-developers] Re: maemo-developers Digest, Vol 4,
        Issue 26
  
Hi,
  
I tried it, but it does not seem to work. I could not do exactly as the instructions say because
"right click" (long press with stylus) menu does not have "Save link as.." or similar option. I tried
by saving it manually but then it pops up dialog "it's not possible to save changes using this
browser" when I press the save changes link of the local copy.
  
BR; Kimmo
  
-Original Message-
Behalf Of ext Roger Sperberg
Sent: 24 August, 2005 06:02
Subject: [maemo-developers] Re: maemo-developers Digest, Vol 4, Issue 26
  
Since TiddlyWiki is "just" an html file, you'd think it would run fine on the Nokia 770.
  
However
the TiddlyWikiTutorial site says it may not work with Opera, which the
770 will come with. The TiddlyWiki.com site says only Firefox, IE 6 and
Safara can save changes. Without that feature, TiddlyWiki isn't really
useful.
  
Perhaps someone with a device could visit tiddlywiki.com
and try to save changes (well, clicking that in the sidebar will give
you instructions on how to save things to a file to which changes can
be saved).
  
Roger Sperberg
  
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Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 15:14:28 -0400
From: "John B. Holmblad" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [maemo-developers] Tiddlywiki: will it run on Maemo?
To: maemodevelop < maemo-developers@maemo.org>
  
All,
  
I discovered this today from a Linux user group to which I belong:
  
     http://www.tiddlywiki.com/  <
http://www.tiddlywiki.com/>
  
Do you think a tiddlywiki will work with the N770 browser?
  
Note
that one of the tiddlywiki authors mentioned on the aforementioned home
page has a site devoted to tablet pc's.  I guess we need to educate
Christopher about the forthcoming Nokia N770 so I have copied him on
this email!
  
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Best Regards,
  
John Holmblad
  
  



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Re: [maemo-developers] automake

2005-08-26 Thread Timo Steuerwald

Kalle Vahlman wrote:


You can probably use the package form Debian, if you really need the
1.6 version.

 

Ups, yes. I have forgotten this possibility, I already thought I must 
build it myself from source.



Find package which contains a file:
 dpkg -S 

List files in a package:
 dpkg -L 

 


Thanks a lot! I didn't know that this is also possible with dpkg.

Cheers,

Timo


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Re: [maemo-developers] automake

2005-08-26 Thread Veli Mankinen
Hi,

If you are using sb 1.0 series there is an environment variable for 
this called SBOX_DEFAULT_AUTOMAKE. Take a look at the variables list:

variables for 1.0 -series:
http://viewcvs.scratchbox.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/scratchbox/doc/variables.txt?rev=1.18&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup

With sb 0.9.8 you have to use SBOX_REDIRECT_BINARIES environment 
variable. I'm not totally sure it works though...

variables for 0.9.8 -series:
http://viewcvs.scratchbox.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/scratchbox/doc/variables.txt?rev=1.11.2.1&only_with_tag=SBOX_0_9_8_5&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup


- Veli Mankinen


On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 11:24:54AM +0200, Timo Steuerwald wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> In the package db is only an automake1.8 package available, but on 
> command line I can see that also automake-1.4 and 1.7 is installed. It 
> seems that both version come from autotools-dev package On common debian 
> systems there is an automake. package for each version.
> IMHO because of 1.4 and 1.7 are installed in 
> /scratchbox/tools/autotools, I can also not use update-alternatives:
> 
> >[sbox-SDK_PC: /] > update-alternatives --config automake
> >
> >There is only 1 program which provides automake
> >(/usr/bin/automake-1.8). Nothing to configure.
> 
> Is there already a package out there for automake 1.6?
> Is there a site like http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages or 
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ or - instead of this - apt-file where I can 
> see which file belongs to which package?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Timo
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Re: [maemo-developers] automake

2005-08-26 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2005/8/26, Timo Steuerwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi all,
> 
> In the package db is only an automake1.8 package available,

That is the one installed in the "target" side of scratchbox (and will
be removed when resetting the target)...

> but on
> command line I can see that also automake-1.4 and 1.7 is installed.

..and these are most likely a part of a scratchbox toolkit, and thus
are not visible to the package management (these won't go away even if
you reset your target).

> Is there already a package out there for automake 1.6?

You can probably use the package form Debian, if you really need the
1.6 version.

> Is there a site like http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages or
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ or - instead of this - apt-file where I can
> see which file belongs to which package?

Find package which contains a file:
  dpkg -S 

List files in a package:
  dpkg -L 

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Re: [maemo-developers] automake

2005-08-26 Thread valtteri
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Timo Steuerwald wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> In the package db is only an automake1.8 package available, but on
> command line I can see that also automake-1.4 and 1.7 is installed. It
> seems that both version come from autotools-dev package On common debian
> systems there is an automake. package for each version.
> IMHO because of 1.4 and 1.7 are installed in
> /scratchbox/tools/autotools, I can also not use update-alternatives:
>
> > [sbox-SDK_PC: /] > update-alternatives --config automake
> >
> > There is only 1 program which provides automake
> > (/usr/bin/automake-1.8). Nothing to configure.
>
> Is there already a package out there for automake 1.6?
> Is there a site like http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages or
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ or - instead of this - apt-file where I can
> see which file belongs to which package?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Timo
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If you are using 1.0.x (or 0.9.8.5, I'm not sure that this feature is
backported though) you can use SBOX_DEFAULT_AUTOMAKE env variable:

SBOX_DEFAULT_AUTOMAKE
Specifies which automake version the 'automake' command points
to.  Available versions are 1.4, 1.7 and 1.8 (default).

SBOX_DEFAULT_AUTOCONF
Specifies which autoconf version the 'autoconf' command points
to.  Available versions are 2.13 and 2.59 (you can also
specify 2.50 which is an alias for 2.59).  The default is to
automatically guess the appropriate version, so you should not
set this variable under normal circumstances.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Bug in the maemo GTK+ patches

2005-08-26 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 19:09 +0200, ext Johan Bilien wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I post it here because there is no GTK+ component in the bugzilla. 

Yes, the bugzilla structure may feel strange if you're used to GNOME
bugzilla.  Anyway, gtk+ would be part of Hildon application framework
(haf) and ui-toolkit (or general if you're feeling lazy.)

https://maemo.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=haf&component=ui-toolkit


> In the patch applied to gtknotebook.c, an ideal_tab_width is computed
> by dividing the width by the number of visible tabs, which can be zero.
> 
> Having
> 
> - ideal_tab_width = (total_width / n);
> + ideal_tab_width = n?0:(total_width / n);
> 
> or something similar is necessary.

Thanks, we have this already fixed in the subversion repository.  The
forthcoming maemo release will be including this and many other
bugfixes.

In the meantime, just don't do that then ;)


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[maemo-developers] automake

2005-08-26 Thread Timo Steuerwald

Hi all,

In the package db is only an automake1.8 package available, but on 
command line I can see that also automake-1.4 and 1.7 is installed. It 
seems that both version come from autotools-dev package On common debian 
systems there is an automake. package for each version.
IMHO because of 1.4 and 1.7 are installed in 
/scratchbox/tools/autotools, I can also not use update-alternatives:



[sbox-SDK_PC: /] > update-alternatives --config automake

There is only 1 program which provides automake
(/usr/bin/automake-1.8). Nothing to configure.


Is there already a package out there for automake 1.6?
Is there a site like http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages or 
http://packages.ubuntu.com/ or - instead of this - apt-file where I can 
see which file belongs to which package?


Cheers,

Timo
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